Shashi Tharoor Vs Vikram Sampath: Debating Heritage, History & Hubris | India Today Conclave 2021

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  • Speaking at the 19th edition of the India Today Conclave in the session titled 'Bulls in our Memory Shop: Debating heritage, history, hubris', MP Shashi Tharoor and historian Vikram Sampath discussed a range of issues from the history taught in Indian textbooks to the appropriation of controversial figures for political motives. Listen in:
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  • @g2s2m19
    @g2s2m19 Před 2 lety +5561

    Let's appreciate Rajdeep's perseverance in exposing his own stupidity.

  • @MAC-vi7fy
    @MAC-vi7fy Před 2 lety +2673

    The difference between Shashi Tharoor and Vikrams idea of of india is, Shashi Tharoors idea of india begins 75 years ago and Vikram’s idea begins 5000 years ago

    • @gauravvishwakarma361
      @gauravvishwakarma361 Před rokem +327

      And Rajdeep don't have any idea what's going on here

    • @alvenawasim3572
      @alvenawasim3572 Před rokem +43

      So the constitution of India is basically shit? 😂

    • @shodhitgoyal6539
      @shodhitgoyal6539 Před rokem +161

      @@alvenawasim3572 Obviously its a frikkin borrowed constituion, if netaji would have been alive he would have ordered to create a new constitution for india .

    • @stayconnected7087
      @stayconnected7087 Před rokem +77

      And Rajdeep's idea of India took a pause somewhere in 2002!

    • @gollum8821
      @gollum8821 Před rokem +12

      @@alvenawasim3572 absolutely.

  • @ajiteshbisht5804
    @ajiteshbisht5804 Před rokem +353

    Biggest irony of the entire video..... Rajdeep saying, "LET'S BE HONEST"

  • @williamsamaddar6510
    @williamsamaddar6510 Před rokem +195

    Rajdeep Sardesai sounds like he has witnessed the Haldighati battle with his own ideological eyes 😀
    Immense respect to Vikram Sampath 🙏

  • @jAyAntswAmi
    @jAyAntswAmi Před 2 lety +2129

    Vikram Sampath: Facts Facts Facts.
    Shashi Tharoor: Opinion Opinion Opinion
    Rajdeep: Bark Bark Bark

    • @kushalneo
      @kushalneo Před 2 lety +91

      underrated comment

    • @sathu108
      @sathu108 Před 2 lety +32

      The Demon behind partition is British stooge & Agent Nehru, these fellow did partition & broke India & created Pakistan muslum rastra against the well being of country& People only to become the first prime Minister of India.... 👎 This is the history & truth which should be told in all our school & history books.......

    • @ajaykc004
      @ajaykc004 Před 2 lety +21

      @@sathu108 and the guy savarkar who wrote a mercy petition

    • @shitanshuroy1561
      @shitanshuroy1561 Před 2 lety +104

      @@ajaykc004 LOL everyone wrote mercy petitions ... as did Gandhi for saverkar since medal winner Gandhi was so trusted by the brits.

    • @krishnaa151
      @krishnaa151 Před 2 lety +10

      In one word you told the total story

  • @devdattapandey2337
    @devdattapandey2337 Před 2 lety +1744

    Rajdeep becomes very uncomfortable whenever Vikram starts speaking.

    • @itatube7594
      @itatube7594 Před 2 lety +14

      Pandey lol😂😂

    • @shrivatsapande3027
      @shrivatsapande3027 Před 2 lety +29

      true dude!

    • @venkatrao5435
      @venkatrao5435 Před 2 lety +25

      Yes Pandey ji. Rdeep WASTE n biased.

    • @adichauhan3713
      @adichauhan3713 Před 2 lety +7

      That's the power of Truth!!

    • @panjabipandit
      @panjabipandit Před 2 lety +26

      The truth hurts. No other explanation for his obvious discomfort at having to listen to someone else speak on subjects he (Sardesai) has obvious opposite views on. I'd argue Sardesai has minimal working knowledge (if you can even call it knowledge) on the subjects he blabs about so of course he'll feel inferior and uncomfortable hearing Vikram speak

  • @rau5305
    @rau5305 Před 11 měsíci +127

    Vikram totally killed it! He backed all his talks by logic! And every word was worth listening to! It was like Rajdeep and Shashi VS him , yet by the end he proves his point of truthifying HISTORY!

  • @rahulsharma255
    @rahulsharma255 Před rokem +113

    It is actually a 2 on 1 debate.
    But still Vikram sir 🔥🔥

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 Před 10 měsíci

      This is more a set up to get at Dr. Vikram Sampath and a desperate attempt to stifle the rising Dharmic 🕉️ consciousness in contemporary Bharat.

  • @shivashankarprabhu
    @shivashankarprabhu Před 2 lety +3128

    Hats off to Vikram Sampath. He rocked this show with his deep research. Rajdeep as usual is a shame on humanity.

  • @cfdphy
    @cfdphy Před 2 lety +1554

    "Let's truthify the history" - Vikram Sampath, 2021
    The need of this country.

    • @rajnish8918
      @rajnish8918 Před 2 lety +6

      Damn right

    • @kaiwalyaghotkar832
      @kaiwalyaghotkar832 Před 2 lety +11

      There are many truths as he said in the end , with Blind men and Elephant story .

    • @shaitanknowsbest3822
      @shaitanknowsbest3822 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kaiwalyaghotkar832 mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌

    • @Abuzar_khan441
      @Abuzar_khan441 Před 2 lety +2

      ok andhbhakt

    • @yottabyte2065
      @yottabyte2065 Před 2 lety +16

      @@Abuzar_khan441 Ohh madrasha chap also comment here

  • @phaninadella2704
    @phaninadella2704 Před rokem +29

    How many of you observed, Unlike Shashi, Vikram was describing India as 'her' 🙏

  • @nishkay633
    @nishkay633 Před 2 lety +435

    Vikram Sampat: Let's speak Logic!
    Shashi Tharoor: Let's speak English!
    Rajdeep Sardesai: Let's speak Bullshit!

  • @aliaseldhose
    @aliaseldhose Před 2 lety +2024

    The only person who tried to bring politics into the discussion was Rajdeep, you should be ashamed of yourself for moderating it this way. Though Dr. Sampath didn't get much time on, he have conveyed some strong messages, thanks for that.

    • @sanathanadharmama
      @sanathanadharmama Před 2 lety +20

      Is he a traitor

    • @androidamey8031
      @androidamey8031 Před 2 lety +49

      Rajdeep is a traitor and he is living in India a secular nation that is why he is safe… imagine he being citizen in China or Pakistan and speaking against their history by now he would be in hell already 😅😂 traitor of the worst kind. Even hardcore traitors are killed on spot but india is just tolerating him.

    • @tennysonsaikia2738
      @tennysonsaikia2738 Před 2 lety +12

      Very true

    • @rjhaveri8bh
      @rjhaveri8bh Před 2 lety +17

      Dr Shashi Tharroor Honest was questionable, it appeared he was trying to protect Nehru family and their wrong doings. Shahshi Tharoor may have protected Nehru family but he has lost voters today. Atleast I will never vote for a liar who conceals facts.
      Rajdeep Sardesai is a clown and he comes out clearly a slave of Nehru family which is more and more evident. If Modi has got so much support today it is only because of liar media which hunting Modi and due to total distrust in congress party. Nehru and his family has been authoritarian and followed cancel culture from the very beginning even before independence. If he was not appointed by British he would have never become Prime Minister. Now we know where Rahul Gandhi gets this brains from.
      Vikram Sampath in my view was fabulous he came out with his facts in an articulate manner despite the other two intimating him. Very impressive.

    • @porchelviramr4404
      @porchelviramr4404 Před 2 lety +2

      Well said.

  • @SHIVANISHARMA76448
    @SHIVANISHARMA76448 Před rokem +54

    How polite Vikram sampath ji is 😐😐❤️❤️ showing how much knowledge he has because immense knowledge make person polite and calm ❤️❤️

  • @shrutimishra252
    @shrutimishra252 Před 6 měsíci +52

    Vikram sir is an absolute gem. His calm and composed manner while countering their 'political attacks' is commendable.Thank you so much sir for sharing this knowledge and being daring enough to put forward the harsh truth.

  • @SrivikasVishnubhotla
    @SrivikasVishnubhotla Před rokem +700

    Dr Vikram Sampath is criminally underrated. He should be given a bigger stage. A lot more people should listen to him!

    • @tarunsharma5780
      @tarunsharma5780 Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/iO2UfCbrjy8/video.html

    • @rajsingh2363
      @rajsingh2363 Před rokem +20

      Yes! He should not waste his precious time to appear in a debate of Rajdeep Sardesai

    • @rajsingh2363
      @rajsingh2363 Před rokem +7

      R C Majumdar’s books which were not available earlier are now available stating real history

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 Před 10 měsíci +4

      I am confident that in the days to come Dr Vikram SAMPATH would be listened to and acknowledged especially by the new generation of leaders of contemporary Bharat 🇮🇳

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 Před 10 měsíci

      And that’ll happen only when such inflated egos like Tharoor are put in the dustbins of colonialism 🛑

  • @ankurdubey367
    @ankurdubey367 Před 2 lety +1439

    On one hand Dr.Throor has a viewpoint that the British should pay reparations to India and on the other hand he downplays the excesses and barbarism of invaders like ghazni, ghori, tughlaks, mughals, abdalis etc. You can't have different yardsticks for different invaders. It shows politics of convenience.

    • @bhavyap590
      @bhavyap590 Před 2 lety +11

      British were enemies of Mughals and Tharoor always is on Islamic side

    • @sanilyadav1450
      @sanilyadav1450 Před 2 lety +7

      @@bhavyap590 Britishers faught against Marathas. So which side he is coming from?

    • @bhavyap590
      @bhavyap590 Před 2 lety +133

      @@sanilyadav1450 Tharoor glorifies Mughal invaders so he is never on Marathas side. His side is his growing political vote bank

    • @Dog_Car_2468
      @Dog_Car_2468 Před 2 lety +32

      Has Tharoor converted to Islam?

    • @benjaminsamuel5394
      @benjaminsamuel5394 Před 2 lety +16

      Geez like no Hindu kingdoms never invaded any territories?? Bro India was feudal back then, you had to expand to keep your kingdom fck that what even Ashoka had to do.

  • @guynair2654
    @guynair2654 Před 11 měsíci +45

    As an NRI, and an American whose ancestors come from SW India (Malabar), I feel so good watching these thinkers/philosophers/historians openly discuss their differences, and express their opinions publicly. India is an open society despite all the bad things attributed to a great land. So those who consider these as debates with winners and losers, don't forget there are ideological nations surrounding India where such discussions are held in contempt and participants shot or maimed over their thoughts. Keep it up. It takes me a while to get to these YT videos, but they are so educating.

    • @shivamlodha8605
      @shivamlodha8605 Před 10 měsíci

      Who do you think out of these 3 nailed the conversation?

  • @harshakulkarni7427
    @harshakulkarni7427 Před 3 měsíci +17

    Only for Vikram Sampat Sir👏👏

  • @marcusaureliusanonymous
    @marcusaureliusanonymous Před rokem +900

    It was 2 against 1 and still Vikram ji come out at the Top. So, one can imagine how much knowledge Vikram JI possesses on History of India!

    • @disprofundis3477
      @disprofundis3477 Před rokem +27

      Because he is beyond politics.

    • @stupengamer
      @stupengamer Před rokem +34

      yeah, I also noticed, the host siding with Tharoor and interrupted him many times, speaking on Tharoor's behalf.

    • @sashilemla6229
      @sashilemla6229 Před rokem +10

      Vikram is a historian so obviously he will be

    • @princeofall433
      @princeofall433 Před 11 měsíci

      Vikram ka kutta😂😂

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 Před 10 měsíci

      This is just an enactment of the infamous ‘kangaroo court’ put up by the Nehruvian rag ‘India Today’ where under the guise of holding a ‘debate’ the host an unashamed ‘minoritarian’ advocate gobbles up all the airtime! What a farce❗️

  • @prakhargupta1405
    @prakhargupta1405 Před 2 lety +1080

    I loved when both of them just ignored rajdeep and started to talk facing each other 😂

    • @AkashKumar-ov7ci
      @AkashKumar-ov7ci Před 2 lety +6

      😂

    • @umeshkokane3555
      @umeshkokane3555 Před 2 lety +63

      That jerk doesn’t deserve anyone’s attention.. I always remember Ambani’s words, wonder if even his wife takes him seriously..

    • @kushal4956
      @kushal4956 Před 2 lety +14

      yeah this was like sampath n shashi disagreeing on some points n then both of them debating against rajdeep

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      @shaitanknowsbest3822 Před 2 lety +4

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    • @HK-fb8bo
      @HK-fb8bo Před 2 lety +2

      Can you mention even one point in your video where they ignored him? IT cell is doing quite good job here in CZcams...LOL

  • @prernalelehomevideos
    @prernalelehomevideos Před rokem +21

    Rajdeep has the same nervous energy that I have during office presentations. I feel bad for him, he is just blabbering away. But this was such an awesome debate. I loved the fact that both of them presented two different view points and yet were not yelling at each other or cutting each other off. They listened and then spoke. Thank you for bringing this debate the way it should be.

  • @Helicopter007
    @Helicopter007 Před 9 měsíci +78

    Vikram Sampath mentioned Tripuris..We are from the state of Tripura which was ruled by The Twipra Kingdom from time immemorial till India was independent We remained independent from time immemorial till now even mughals couldn’t conquer us.. we are one of the greatest independent kingdom of bharat.. we are here from Mahabharata time till now in NewBharata.

    • @satishghorpade6481
      @satishghorpade6481 Před 2 měsíci +5

      But no history book teach we that's the question..

    • @tejasree8933
      @tejasree8933 Před měsícem +3

      Such an amazing piece of history hidden from us... Truly unfair 😢

    • @Maharaje114
      @Maharaje114 Před měsícem +2

      Great history... But not in books

    • @ABHISHEKSHARMA-ti5fl
      @ABHISHEKSHARMA-ti5fl Před měsícem +3

      I wish your glorious history will be mentioned in the every book 🏆

    • @shivamtripathi144
      @shivamtripathi144 Před 10 dny

      Yes, for sure we want to read the history of North East part of India as well.

  • @navibhat2126
    @navibhat2126 Před rokem +19

    Vikram ji - our country awaited so much to hve some 1 like u. The perfect narration of our past events icons and aberrations!!! Millions of thanks from youths of our time

  • @aben3278
    @aben3278 Před 2 lety +1779

    J Sai Deepak and Vikram Sampath are Gems of India.

  • @aadi2625
    @aadi2625 Před 2 lety +531

    Who wants India to be a Hindu Rashtra?
    Edit: Thanks for showing support. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

    • @shashisourabh7030
      @shashisourabh7030 Před 2 lety +15

      spot on😂

    • @smart2767
      @smart2767 Před 2 lety +7

      Rajdeep time is over

    • @panditji7451
      @panditji7451 Před 2 lety +3

      GOOD JOURNALIST EXPOSES EVRYTHING

    • @panditji7451
      @panditji7451 Před 2 lety +5

      EVEN IF IT HIS OWN IDIOCY, BUT THEN WHAT ELSE ONE EXPECTS FROM LIKES OF RAJDEEP

    • @riposte1960
      @riposte1960 Před 2 lety

      not stupidity , his desperation , his journalism is totally compromised due to his and his wife's corruption , he's joined at the hip to the gandhi family

  • @rajeevsingh9210
    @rajeevsingh9210 Před rokem +21

    I feel blessed that I am to able see and listen to people like Dr. Vikram sampath.. I feel so bad for myself that i don't know 0.1% of actually what happened.. so much to learn and listen to.. Again blessed to hear the other side of the stories bcoz i remember I amd my friends diacussing that our history does not feel like our history.. obviously we weren't that mature to contemplate at that time but certainly few years ago we used to have this talk.. But now i know why it didn't feel like our..And today's school going generation is actually blessed to have this content where they can parellely see and know the other side of the stories and even call out to teachers.. we definitely should have more and more this kind of discussions but maybe with an intellectual journalist who doesn't try to politicize it and also other panelist as historian... Favts vs Facts

  • @ImranAli-te4hg
    @ImranAli-te4hg Před 9 měsíci +8

    COMPLETELY AGREE WITH SIR VIKRAM SAMPATH ...THESE WOUNDS HAVE NEVER HEALED SPECFICALLY THE GREAT SCAR OF PARTITION OF OUR MOTHERLAND CANT BE SIMPLY FORGOTTEN . DR. THAROOR SEEMS TO BE DEFENSIVE IN TERMS OF OUR HISTORY AND BIASIS , CRAVING FOR COMPOSITE CULTURE ON THE EXPENSE OF ONE COMMUNITY ONLY .

  • @thebatman0777
    @thebatman0777 Před 2 lety +891

    "If you are going to deny history
    Future will deny you."
    - Self-Obsessed
    Vikram sampath 👍👍👍

    • @Liberty55555
      @Liberty55555 Před 2 lety +2

      how ? lol . just a typical ajay devgan dialogue ?

    • @Winston44567
      @Winston44567 Před 2 lety +6

      Future accepted Gandhi all over the world, not Savarkar.

    • @kamal9654
      @kamal9654 Před 2 lety +60

      @@Winston44567 bcs in history we have wrote about gandhi not about savarakar.

    • @aninditabanerjee7486
      @aninditabanerjee7486 Před 2 lety

      @@Liberty55555 o 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @thebatman0777
      @thebatman0777 Před 2 lety +15

      @@Liberty55555 whatever but this Quote is true if you deny the Human History
      From African caves to Moon,Mars and Evolution of Humankind
      A Dark Future is ready for You

  • @brijendradubey7040
    @brijendradubey7040 Před 2 lety +756

    The only time debate becomes unbearable is when Rajdeep speaks , rest knowledge is top notch.

    • @dharminderpuri8451
      @dharminderpuri8451 Před 2 lety +9

      Exactly 😂🤣😂

    • @ayushsolapurkar4716
      @ayushsolapurkar4716 Před 2 lety +13

      This is not a debate, it's a discussion cause both intellectuals are agreeing on eachother's point which usually doesn't happen in debates

    • @jayanthrajaram3526
      @jayanthrajaram3526 Před 2 lety +13

      yeah i like both tharoor and Vikram but can't stand rajdeep 😂😂😂

    • @prashanthkamath2223
      @prashanthkamath2223 Před 2 lety +1

      Very true I can’t withstand that bastard

    • @manash493
      @manash493 Před 2 lety

      Naah, I agree with rajdeep, everytime he was trying to just finalize, summarize what each side told and put the question to next side.
      (My analysis, free to reply to my comments)

  • @vasudhanadgonde7419
    @vasudhanadgonde7419 Před rokem +21

    I watched this episode today and kudos to Dr Vikram sampat.He totally nailed it.

  • @balakrishnanss6550
    @balakrishnanss6550 Před rokem +8

    Truthifying.... Good word....truly depicting the history of 5000+ years not just from 7th CE.
    We have wasted 75 years & it is high time we do the course correction.

  • @therealmalhar_
    @therealmalhar_ Před 2 lety +1405

    “We might be politically independent but i think our minds are far from de-colonized” Vikram Sampath hit a bull's eye!

    • @bluej6127
      @bluej6127 Před 2 lety +4

      If a certain group or sect of people stick with their I securities and sense of being colonized even in 21st century , its their problem. How come the rest of us Indians don't feel this and just some of you ( or a hindu majority ) feels so ? Get out of it guys

    • @therealmalhar_
      @therealmalhar_ Před 2 lety +45

      @@bluej6127 So should I take permission from you to appreciate a great author/historian ? You made it religious also. Do something better dude

    • @draxZz__
      @draxZz__ Před 2 lety +22

      @@bluej6127 When your Supreme Court says that the medium of conversation is English, it reflects the colonial hangover of our country, even though "Satyamev Jayate" is not.

    • @bluej6127
      @bluej6127 Před 2 lety +3

      @@draxZz__ no, it only reflects that Indians are able to communicate in an international language. If you hadn't the opportunity to learn English, how would you communicate with me here ? If I hadn't the opportunity to learn English how would I deal with scores of people from all over the world on a daily basis which is part of my job ? I couldn't dream of such a job if I knew no English. I consider my language skill as that of power, that of independence, that of education ...everything positive. If you think English is not freeing you from bandage, I guess we need to talk about mental health. Not colonialism.

    • @draxZz__
      @draxZz__ Před 2 lety +26

      @@bluej6127 Either you aren't from India or you have no idea about the reality of India. It is a privilege to know English in this country to the extent that people equates intellect with English (which also reflects the hangover). Forget jobs and interacting with Western world, majority of people in India can't even afford basic primary education, also the reason why Govt of India had to come up with Sarva Siksha Abhiyaan and free mid day meal for students. To make it mandatory for an advocate to communicate and articulate his arguments in English which he wasn't comfortable in shows the colonial mindset of our system which isn't the case in European countries. Bdw the rule that states it is mandatory to communicate in English was setup by the English themselves to narrow down the flow of Indian barristers in British India. Stop assuming that every Indian has the same resources and access as you have. What does mental health has to do with this debate? I have nothing against speaking in English, obviously it is a global language and everyone should learn it if they can afford. I gave you one example of the colonial lens that we are subjected to look through.

  • @prreddy5375
    @prreddy5375 Před rokem +284

    Sai Deepak is little aggressive and Sampath is assertive
    I appreciate both of them

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 Před 10 měsíci +18

      True except that J Sai Deepak should be more aggressive and Sampath a lot more assertive. 😄

    • @malasharma4987
      @malasharma4987 Před 2 měsíci

      Abbbbsolutely. Shashi Tharoors for all his tirades against the British is not only British in accent but is totally Britis 8:53 h and also leftist in thought word and deed. A pretentious pompous conceit who deserves to be totally ignored if not jeered and hooted at instead of being celebrated and honoured.

    • @sid7221
      @sid7221 Před 2 měsíci

      Fabulously said haha​@@gopalramanathan7062

    • @jayspice4987
      @jayspice4987 Před měsícem +2

      J Sai Deepak while explaining many things correctly, there is a sense of hatred and ignorance in his thoughts that sampath doesn't have. Sampath is the combatant for the liberal while Sai Deepak is the combatant for the Muslims.

    • @Iamdead666
      @Iamdead666 Před měsícem +1

      @@jayspice4987 Well you clearly learn the History , without any bias the reaction then doesn't seem so illogical . BR Ambedkar , Bhagat singh and many more Big people of our India has same result also that Muslims are never of their motherland first , they are of their religion

  • @SaikatSadhukha
    @SaikatSadhukha Před 3 měsíci +11

    The debate was actually Shashi Tharoor Rajdip S. vrs Vikram Sampath sir

  • @prasadjrao
    @prasadjrao Před 11 měsíci +6

    This is exactly the kind of debate that we should have more of. Assertive, respectful and progressive.

  • @deepankarchandrashekhar1038
    @deepankarchandrashekhar1038 Před 2 lety +774

    In the presence of mature, sophisticated and highly knowledgeable people like Dr. Sampth and Dr. Tharoor, Rajdeep's buffoonery gets especially irritating.

    • @panditji7451
      @panditji7451 Před 2 lety +9

      COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

    • @srivinit
      @srivinit Před 2 lety +2

      Well said

    • @NS-vq5cc
      @NS-vq5cc Před 2 lety +1

      Yes

    • @theniravpanchal
      @theniravpanchal Před 2 lety +13

      Tharoor is Also Rajdeep with some more choice of words.
      Both are colonial + G--haad wh!tew_sher garbage.

    • @devish5
      @devish5 Před 2 lety +1

      He is simply the arnab's copy..😑

  • @beingrational1302
    @beingrational1302 Před 2 lety +370

    You can only imagine the impact of Vikram Sampath from the fact that likes of Shashi Tharoor have started saying Savarkar as a complex figure rather than outright demonisation of Savarkar as a Hindu Supremacist and a bigoted individual. 😀

  • @minakshide854
    @minakshide854 Před rokem +19

    Hats off to Vikram Sampath🙏🙏🙏

  • @jellalfernandes1309
    @jellalfernandes1309 Před 3 měsíci +2

    India's true history must be told. Wholeheartedly agree with Dr. Vikram Sampath.
    Mr. Tharoor seems to believe ignoring history will heal wounds of the past, but he fails to understand that it is this ignorance that is keeping those wounds fresh and not letting it heal.
    Echos of the past always affect the future, and if the young population of India doesn't understand their true history then it is doomed to be repeated on them.

  • @HarshwardhanShahani
    @HarshwardhanShahani Před 2 lety +548

    As a moderator Rajdeep's personal likes and dislikes are out in the open. From his insinuating tone and false sense of righteousness, it is crystal clear which way he swings.

    • @lalitharavindran
      @lalitharavindran Před 2 lety +11

      It’s also evident as a news person.

    • @OtisAdonisChad
      @OtisAdonisChad Před 2 lety +3

      No moderator is unbiased. Most of them. Especially so in India today.

    • @Liberty55555
      @Liberty55555 Před 2 lety +3

      so i want to be part of your gang uncle. where you are paid to target certain people. Can you let me know your salary or what you earn per comment ? i spend a lot of time on net so i can earn and further your and your gang's cause.

    • @achyutarun7999
      @achyutarun7999 Před 2 lety +2

      @@OtisAdonisChad timesnow amchors only unbiased

    • @kanishksingh5463
      @kanishksingh5463 Před 2 lety +5

      perfectly decoded rajdeep mindset

  • @BharathChavachavz3
    @BharathChavachavz3 Před 2 lety +393

    If you life gives you a choice. Be classy as Vikram Sampath. Don't be shameless as Rajdeep 😂

    • @acediyartist9252
      @acediyartist9252 Před 2 lety +12

      Rajdeep desai is a true Muslim and his teachers and parents too who teach him false history. Rajdeep Desai is a pappu Chatu and today he is doing the same chatupana of Congress 🤑🤑

    • @prasvasu4217
      @prasvasu4217 Před 2 lety +1

      Or duplicit as the politician

    • @addictrogue516
      @addictrogue516 Před 2 lety

      Raju jesa toh bilkul nhi banna !

    • @EnglishWithKunal
      @EnglishWithKunal Před 2 lety +3

      @@acediyartist9252 chatupana of congress😂😂

    • @monotonous1763
      @monotonous1763 Před 2 lety

      You folks are idiots.. he is asking questions .. that’s his job..

  • @cheharkrupa5748
    @cheharkrupa5748 Před 3 měsíci +4

    It was not Shashi Tharoor vs Vikram Sampath, it was Vikram Sampath vs Rajdeep Sardesai. Still Vikram defeated both of them 😅

  • @revathiramachandran9663
    @revathiramachandran9663 Před rokem +3

    What an eloquent speaker, Dr.Sampath! You can see in his dialogues that he truly has no political motivations and honestly wants Indians to acknowledge their history, move on and build a better future. Dr.Tharoor, you have finally met your match :) let's not forget that the reason why history is getting politicised today is because as Dr.Sampath says, we haven't had closure. Even German students learn in detail about the atrocities of Hitler and the holocaust, it only helps them to come at peace with their past and not hold it against anyone. And if you support denying the truth to Indians, you are only risking the future of this country further, from more grave polarisation or communalism. And if the history of my country has to rely on such shaky bandaids, then you're also underestimating the constitutional secularism. INDIA has always been a pluralistic country, we have always accepted people of other faith and differences. So trust your country with its true history!

  • @prashanthkamath2223
    @prashanthkamath2223 Před 2 lety +646

    Today’s Muslims who were Hindus sometimes in the past can’t be blamed and we are not blaming them but those who still feel proud about aurangajeb , those must be sent to Afghanistan

    • @LhnAran
      @LhnAran Před 2 lety +47

      coz we tried 2 tell a history in such a way which glorifies them instead of telling what they were...
      thats what whitewash do

    • @bennet79
      @bennet79 Před 2 lety +6

      Before that they were Buddhist. 🤷‍♂️

    • @ctrlalt6681
      @ctrlalt6681 Před 2 lety +50

      @@bennet79 Buddha also preached Dharma. Bhiddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, Hinduism these are all Dharmic religions. Personally, I am ready to follow anyone or everything of these. I see no difference. It just depends on your perception of God. What you believe in. Sanatan Dharma allows one to be theist, monotheistic, atheist. Just follow Dharma and do the right thing.

    • @ekakshd8058
      @ekakshd8058 Před 2 lety +20

      @@bennet79 before british they all were one. In Nepal Buddhism is not considered as a separate religion.

    • @Anshul.Sharma.983
      @Anshul.Sharma.983 Před 2 lety +27

      @@bennet79 buddhisum arrived much more later. Yes lots of hindus converted to buddhisum, but later, bhagwaan adi shankaraachaary brought them back to sanatan vedic dharma!

  • @PradeepKumar-yx8sr
    @PradeepKumar-yx8sr Před 2 lety +377

    Rajdeep isn't capable of holding these kind of debates.This isn't political mumbo jumbo where you can get away with doing dalali.
    History thrives on facts which is not Raju's forte.

    • @dipi27
      @dipi27 Před 2 lety +12

      Yeah that's what I thought throughout the session. What is this joker doing here, trying to sound intelligent.

    • @Nmax
      @Nmax Před 2 lety

      Yes true

    • @ThisisAnant93
      @ThisisAnant93 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah Arnab should've been there instead!!! who can forget his so called facts about being attacked near CM's house while covering Gujarat riots!!

    • @anantharams9154
      @anantharams9154 Před 2 lety

      Absolutely the likes of Rajdeep are not qualified to moderate such debates! In fact it would been a much better debate if Rajdeep was not there!

    • @SamvedIyer
      @SamvedIyer Před 2 lety +2

      @@ThisisAnant93 Well, Arnab is not hosting here, so your comment is of no relevance.

  • @MrEStreaming
    @MrEStreaming Před rokem +18

    This is brilliant for the conversation on and study of ‘Identity’! All of humanity can learn much from this to better improve one’s own perspective and enhance one’s own consciousness as to how important our perceptions are not only to ourselves, but also to all. There is great wisdom in Bharata that holds many treasures as to what is this ’me’ I perceive my ‘self’ to be, and to what am I to identify with. As Bharati reclaim this, Bharat will re-evolve, and Bharata will once again shed much needed light for all. Well done. Namaskaram

  • @MrMehta57
    @MrMehta57 Před 2 měsíci +3

    "Where were these virtues 25 years ago??" 🤜🤜

  • @drShivaR
    @drShivaR Před 2 lety +429

    Shame on Sardesai style of journalism. He singlehandedly destroyed the reputation of India today conclave.

    • @FinanceUnlearn
      @FinanceUnlearn Před 2 lety +5

      Yes, I completely agree. Someone of Sambit Patra's intellect should have been moderating this conversation.

    • @foobar69
      @foobar69 Před 2 lety

      @@FinanceUnlearn not much of a difference in this case

    • @drShivaR
      @drShivaR Před 2 lety +11

      @@FinanceUnlearn No. My point is that he's doing a pathetic job of what's expected of him and I surely not wish to witness a shrewd politician doing the job of what an honest journalist should be doing (which this fellow is Not doing).

    • @thebatman0777
      @thebatman0777 Před 2 lety

      Sometimes I wonder how sardesai became journalist

    • @FinanceUnlearn
      @FinanceUnlearn Před 2 lety

      @@thebatman0777 you have so much free time?

  • @TINGTONGPOWER
    @TINGTONGPOWER Před 2 lety +563

    Sashi looks like the moderator
    Rajdeep, speaking for the left.

  • @revatiy
    @revatiy Před rokem +10

    History relates to Karma and wounds are passed on from generation to generation, so learning the past, making everyone heard, and then making peace with it is required.

  • @siddharthdwivedi467
    @siddharthdwivedi467 Před 3 měsíci +3

    शानदार चर्चा🔥🔥🔥...इंडिया टुडे कॉन्क्लेव के आयोजकों को धन्यवाद l जिस तरह से दोनों (बुद्धिजीवियों) ने जवाब देने से पहले (बिना भटके) धैर्य के साथ एक-दूसरे की बात सुनी, वह बहुत सकारात्मक था और इतिहास को वर्णित करने के बारे में विक्रम जी का दृष्टिकोण थरूर जी की तुलना में काफी अधिक ठोस एवं संतोषजनक है।

  • @DEVAN133
    @DEVAN133 Před 2 lety +237

    Vikram demolished both Tharoor and Rajdeep. See how they are struggling in front of one man called Vikram. That's why I call them"so called intellectuals" . 😂 Intellectuals who are confident and convinced of what they are saying with valid reasoning can be identified clearly. The grace of Vikram says it all 👍

    • @satyapriyadarshi93
      @satyapriyadarshi93 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, cuz Vikram is playing on a flat wicket at a time when Islamist terrorism is prevalent everywhere and it's convenient to throw Indian Muslims under the bus. Exactly what he is doing.
      Shashi Tharoor is justifying our history textbooks where we haven't been taught to hate muslims; where we could have easily been taken a convenient muslim bashing route, anti-muslim bigotry (anti-hindu in Pakistan's case). A route to disaster what this current compensation is taking. A route where end result is destruction, all this just to satisfy the false bravado & egos of self- acclaimed 'nationalists'.

    • @DEVAN133
      @DEVAN133 Před 2 lety +2

      @@satyapriyadarshi93 you got it all wrong. The topic of discussion is Indian History, not muslims 😂

    • @itatube7594
      @itatube7594 Před 2 lety +4

      @@DEVAN133 Tharoor and vikram both were good. Infact tharoor was acknowledging many of vikram’s points. So keep your shitty political views with yourself. 💩💩

    • @acharya8959
      @acharya8959 Před 2 lety +1

      @@itatube7594 Back at you, 🐕.
      It's political and communal. Muslims must denounce those who have been alien and antagonistic to India.
      If not, they pay the price.

    • @acharya8959
      @acharya8959 Před 2 lety +1

      @@satyapriyadarshi93 Muslims feel they can idolise only muslim icons. So, Congress made it for them.
      This is what we need to reverse.
      Face it and move on.
      If not pay the price.
      And moreover, don't use rhetoric like tharoor did.
      An f ing disgrace.

  • @anonymous-yp5ql
    @anonymous-yp5ql Před 2 lety +199

    Rajdeep is that Dhol who is smashed by everyone 😂

  • @MM-pm7kg
    @MM-pm7kg Před měsícem +2

    One should never forget your past. I can make peace with it and try everything to avoid any misdeeds in future.

  • @anuragsharma3121
    @anuragsharma3121 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Whoever said that to you Mr. Tharoor is very proud of what they had not been through

  • @drrajkragarwal3534
    @drrajkragarwal3534 Před 2 lety +672

    Shashi's only prerequisite for attending this event was JSD's confirmed absence.

  • @aadimishra9669
    @aadimishra9669 Před 2 lety +80

    Rajdeep- i will turn this healthy debate into a political fight
    Vikram- hold my facts 😂

  • @colourless2d
    @colourless2d Před 7 měsíci +2

    This is what's called a constructive and a futuristic debate unlike the one in other news channels where the debate remains inconclusive

  • @snigdhajha24
    @snigdhajha24 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Dr Sampath is truly a gem for this country ❤

  • @MyKarur
    @MyKarur Před 2 lety +471

    Impressed with Sampath. He is articulate,polite and well researched

    • @TheSujitKDas
      @TheSujitKDas Před 2 lety +11

      Vikramji is articulate and brilliant.

  • @akhileshpatki9912
    @akhileshpatki9912 Před 2 lety +220

    This is the debate where Mr. Tharoor only shows his western accent in speaking leaving the department of intelligence, vocabulary and knowledge to Vikram. Kudos Vikram you have beaten him fair and square 💯💯💯

    • @tenzinkhetsun7834
      @tenzinkhetsun7834 Před 2 lety +5

      where did they even debate. they seemed to agree on most points.

    • @akhileshpatki9912
      @akhileshpatki9912 Před 2 lety +15

      @@tenzinkhetsun7834 They both were not agreeing, Mr. Tharoor had to agree whatever Mr. Sampath was saying....that is what victory in debate... just like accepting that congress didn't put forth the many aspects of history and only advanced with one comforting their socialist, left leaning ideology...

    • @mayurakshidey7787
      @mayurakshidey7787 Před 2 lety +1

      Calm down sir!!

    • @sunilsachdeva6774
      @sunilsachdeva6774 Před 2 lety +13

      In spite of the fact Vikram was given less time as compared to Tharoor.

    • @tarunvarshney
      @tarunvarshney Před 2 lety +6

      Here, guys are talking sh*t. there is always an era to work on particular things, after independence we were fortunate that congress did not go in this shitty things of name and history, they did not care the name was Aurengjeb or Akbar, what they cared about development. They gave real development to India, India overcame from long slavery and become world's largest democracy in past years.
      Would it be possible if we had opted BJP ideology for India back 70 years? India could have become a banana democracy like Hindu Pakistan. In BJP era even in 2021 everyone is fighting with thoughts of religion, not for development.

  • @shashwatdwivedi227
    @shashwatdwivedi227 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Nice to hear the unbeatable arguments of two brilliant minds.❤

  • @amitnatarajan2897
    @amitnatarajan2897 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Dr. Vikram Sampath, thank you for enlightening us...keep enlightening...

  • @deeminor6565
    @deeminor6565 Před 2 lety +456

    As Vikram says, current govt needs to correct history asap. The opposition will shout from the rooftops.

    • @animeshrana358
      @animeshrana358 Před 2 lety +23

      😂
      Opposition be like :- prepare for 2029 nothing will get in 2024

    • @vadirajt
      @vadirajt Před 2 lety +15

      If Indian liberals and political party with agenda glorifying butcher like Tippu for their own benefit we should shy away calling them Desh drohi too...One who celebrate your country's destroyer can't be called a leader anyway.

    • @vadirajt
      @vadirajt Před 2 lety

      should not*

    • @glennex0077
      @glennex0077 Před 2 lety +2

      @@vadirajt Thats the irony of this country. Vikram said that, "U have bakhtiyarpur town near ruins of Nalanda" Aint that amazing ? We R a "brainwashed Republic"

    • @disliketheclickbaits8858
      @disliketheclickbaits8858 Před 2 lety

      @@glennex0077
      N we praise "bharamans" even when it's a brahamab who asked Bakhtiyar to burn down the nalanda

  • @nsbumb
    @nsbumb Před 2 lety +295

    Dr Vikram Sampath has emerged as a valuable asset to Indian culture.

  • @sarathmeduri09
    @sarathmeduri09 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Vikram Sampath - just exactly the one what India needs to know about the truthful history!

  • @TheRudra108
    @TheRudra108 Před 2 měsíci +1

    How many Indians know about nalanda? Takshashila? Vijaynagar or chola empires? The kshatriya lineage? Yoga, its meaning? Its origins? The Vedas? Very few. Why? Because information is not readily available. As it becomes available, its destruction is part of its history. And what we are seeing today is a part of healing. I wholly agree with Dr Sampath. How do we heal from a wound we don’t even know about? Without knowledge, the wounds just exist in perpetuity without explanation and, frankly, that is more plaguing than knowing.

  • @hareramv
    @hareramv Před 2 lety +569

    Now we are getting true historians. Thank you and all the best Dr. Sampath.

    • @tarunsharma5780
      @tarunsharma5780 Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/iO2UfCbrjy8/video.html

    • @gopalramanathan7062
      @gopalramanathan7062 Před 10 měsíci +1

      True. Now I feel compelled to read Dr Vikram Sampath’s two volume book🙏🏼

  • @Nadd108
    @Nadd108 Před 2 lety +490

    Vikram Sampath is very right when he says "For the kids in school the story of her country is shown as a third person as of it belongs to some other nation" I always thought about it whenever I reflected back on the history I studied in school (NCERT) It clearly created my thought process that "British were good for India & Mughals were even better" simply based on the information in the textbooks glorifying British (indirectly) and Mughals Directly as well as most of the teachers doing the same. Later on in life I found out about the reality and about the barrage of misinformation it was I was shocked & felt sad for the younger ones still studying the same misinformation in Schools. So proud of Vikram Sampath for shedding some light of truth about our "Pyara Bharat" & giving a befitting reply to the "Brown Angrez" monopoly in the country and creating a bright hope for future generations.

    • @renganayakikumarappan5129
      @renganayakikumarappan5129 Před 2 lety +23

      Yes as Vikram said make peace with the past. Not bury it under the mat.

    • @deepika2644
      @deepika2644 Před rokem +24

      Exactly... The glorification and demonization of certain characters and the language used in the NCERT books really caught my attention... I would think about why was this so... But I am 19 now, I have Twitter and I now know why.... J Sai Deepak and Rajiv Malhotra first opened my eyes✨🙏🏻 VERY GRATEFUL!

    • @karnsiva6894
      @karnsiva6894 Před rokem

      @@ayushnair3587 they are more patriotic than the so called secular Hindus in our country

    • @kumarraj197
      @kumarraj197 Před rokem +2

      Thank god it's not a monopoly anymore.
      But have to stay awake and united, if we want it to stay that way

    • @vihankrishna9644
      @vihankrishna9644 Před rokem +1

      i mean the icse text book says things just as they were

  • @akankshamishra7785
    @akankshamishra7785 Před rokem +2

    Take a bow Vikram Sampath ji. You are giving voice to what we feel all the time as Bharatiya who can't even talk about their own historical atrocities openly just because it's not socially and politically correct and will upset few people. It's unfortunate.

  • @phaninadella2704
    @phaninadella2704 Před rokem +2

    Shashi would never debate Sai Deepak and Vikram Sampath again 😂

  • @ankurgiri9310
    @ankurgiri9310 Před 2 lety +366

    there should be an option through which we can skip only rajdeep’s part

    • @achalgupta5811
      @achalgupta5811 Před 2 lety +4

      Best comment 👍👍👍

    • @ashutoshanand1573
      @ashutoshanand1573 Před 2 lety +4

      😂

    • @BzBug
      @BzBug Před 2 lety +2

      🤣

    • @essm4179
      @essm4179 Před 2 lety +1

      Thats what I did, I kept skipping forward whenever he spoke.

    • @shaitanknowsbest3822
      @shaitanknowsbest3822 Před 2 lety

      50% property right, TALAK ka right, Halala ban, job right, BURKHA freedom...gender equality..,👍✌😊.
      KYA AAP MAN-WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS SAHTE HAI?🙄 🙄
      czcams.com/video/ycaxJ6eamv/video.html
      QUR'AN 9:5, PARTITION REAL REASON.

  • @dipi27
    @dipi27 Před 2 lety +237

    Rajdeep's bias is so out in the open that he can't even act unbiased despite best efforts.

    • @shaitanknowsbest3822
      @shaitanknowsbest3822 Před 2 lety

      mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌

  • @santomenon3689
    @santomenon3689 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Shashi Tharoor forgets that the very foundation of Indian independence started without a UCC, which resulted in Nehru aiding religious fundamenlist . No media house in India has held Nehru accountable for this. Ambedkar himself felt that he was taken for a ride by Nehru. WAKF Boards, Socialising Hindu religion, while Muslims and Christians were given different religious rights. Calling RSS, BJP as right wing and conservative is political incorrectedness. Vikram Sampath is a GEM, so is Shashi Tharoor. We need meaningful debates like this.

    • @himanshupal6083
      @himanshupal6083 Před 3 měsíci

      The only guy who has shown respect for Tharoor here

  • @JrJ2016
    @JrJ2016 Před rokem +7

    40:40 Sampath nailed the argument

  • @devsen05
    @devsen05 Před 2 lety +455

    Never saw Tharoor running away from a discussion with tail down. l think first time he met someone who can speak more fluently and with context.

    • @ss6758
      @ss6758 Před 2 lety +75

      Watch J deepak too..

    • @shaitanknowsbest3822
      @shaitanknowsbest3822 Před 2 lety +7

      50% property right, TALAK ka right, Halala ban, job right, BURKHA freedom...gender equality..,👍✌😊.
      KYA AAP MAN-WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS SAHTE HAI?🙄 🙄
      czcams.com/video/ycaxJ6eamv/video.html
      QUR'AN 9:5, PARTITION REAL REASON

    • @balapradeep8371
      @balapradeep8371 Před 2 lety +42

      You much watch J Saideepak's debate with him.😂😂

    • @avengers464
      @avengers464 Před 2 lety +21

      Its mean you have missed Sai vs tharor.

    • @raghuka4916
      @raghuka4916 Před 2 lety +5

      See his discussion with Sai Deepak
      No use trying to justify government previous at all costs
      As for Raideep less said of him the better

  • @navya5589
    @navya5589 Před 2 lety +269

    Rajdeep was trying hard to entice Vikram by throwing politics and extremist examples towards him. Shows how desperate they have become to keep their false narrative intact. Love the helplessness. :)

    • @shaitanknowsbest3822
      @shaitanknowsbest3822 Před 2 lety

      mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌

    • @navya5589
      @navya5589 Před 2 lety +10

      @@shaitanknowsbest3822 Hi there. My opinion on this issue is that every religion or societal custom does need reforms from time to time. Most practices in religions are no cause for concern, but some really must be changed. The only issue is, that some religions are not open to these reforms and they are complacent in their ways. There are certain misogynistic verses in a few holy books that should be done away with, but under the fear of committing blasphemy, these verses haven't been removed yet. So unless the society makes a conscious effort to reform themselves, some sexist issues will remain. :D Hope this helps.

    • @asnm4380
      @asnm4380 Před 2 lety +2

      I enjoyed your comment very much!

    • @navya5589
      @navya5589 Před 2 lety

      @@asnm4380 Thank you!

    • @navya5589
      @navya5589 Před 2 lety

      @Khyalo Ki Duniya Umm Im not seeing your point here?

  • @Glassful
    @Glassful Před 9 měsíci +2

    Mr. Sampath this country needs you even more..our generation was blinded by one sided shaded narrative…but next generation should be taught right history

  • @DharmaTruthDuty
    @DharmaTruthDuty Před rokem +2

    As eloquent as Dr. Tharoor is, this entire dialogue could be summarized to Tharoor raising an issue, Vikram rebutting with a conclusive reply and the Tharoor accepting it and moving on to the next issue.
    Regardless of the due respect that he deserves, Dr. Tharoor is the typical Congress leader that is all pomp and little show.
    India needs performance and not performers.
    BJP is currently doing that. Congress will need to exceed expectations to even stay relevant.

  • @t555d
    @t555d Před 2 lety +340

    Rajdeep Sardesai should be thrown outside such events, he keeps interrupting.

    • @lisaalfred8504
      @lisaalfred8504 Před 2 lety

      Hello 👋

    • @lisaalfred8504
      @lisaalfred8504 Před 2 lety

      You are handsome 😘

    • @rjhaveri8bh
      @rjhaveri8bh Před 2 lety +2

      Dr Shashi Tharroor - Honesty was questionable, it appeared he was trying to protect Nehru family and their wrong doings. Shahshi Tharoor may have protected Nehru family but he has lost voters today. Atleast I will never vote for a liar who conceals facts.
      Rajdeep Sardesai is a clown and he comes out clearly a slave of Nehru family which is more and more evident. If Modi has got so much support today it is only because of liar media witch hunting Modi and due to total distrust in congress party. Nehru and his family has been authoritarian and followed cancel culture from the very beginning even before independence. If he was not appointed by British he would have never become Prime Minister. Now we know where Rahul Gandhi gets this brains from.
      Vikram Sampath in my view was fabulous he came out with his facts in an articulate manner despite the other two intimating him. Very impressive.

    • @lisaalfred8504
      @lisaalfred8504 Před 2 lety

      @@rjhaveri8bh let's talk business

    • @rjhaveri8bh
      @rjhaveri8bh Před 2 lety +1

      @@lisaalfred8504 Prior to 1947 many partitions of India took place and much of the hindu lands were made into separate countries now (Most of them are now muslim counties like Indonesia, Malaysia, Afghanistan, but some Buddhist countries like Myanmar, Burma, Tibet (which was in 1950 occupied by china). Finally in 1946 East and west Pakistan was made by the british but east Pakistan later separated from Pakistan and became Bangladesh. (Both
      Muslims majorty nations)
      In 1947 neither Nehru nor Jinnah was elected by the people they were both appointed by the British.
      In 1947, the British firstly partitioned India to create Pakistan in 1947 based on religion. India for 90% Hindus, Sikh population and Pakistan for only 8-9% Muslims population. But the land given to create Pakistan is 30% of India this was achieved via 30% reservation to Muslims in provisional elections.
      But in 1947 the British decided to give 30% of India land was given to form Pakistan which was for the only 8-9% Muslims living in undivided India. In 1947 90% Indian muslims voted for creation of Pakistan and then later the same muslims stayed back in India and claimed they were loyal Indians. If they were loyal why did they vote for creation of Pakistan. So 10% of Muslims enjoyed a largely uninhabited Pakistan for muslims. Whereas my grand parents who were Hindu came to an over crowded India not knowing that 90% muslims will not leave the part created for hindus by the British. But this did not bother the British after all this was not their problem. But those 22% Hindus who stayed back in west Pakistan were killed/ converted / forced out by 1991 census their population was reduced to less then 2%. Same happened in east Paksitan hind or bangladesh Hindus were reduced from 29% to 6.5%.
      In 1947, My Grand Parents were living in current day Pakistan but they were given no choice, Either leave our ancestral home in sindh over night & flee to India or be killed or forcefully converted to Islam. So my grand parents migrated to India as we were told this will be country for Hindus. But this was not the first time ours ancestors had already migrated 6 times earlier due to the Muslim Invasions of India from 10th century to 16th Century.
      Indians were forced by the British to appoint a certain family favorable to the British hence Nehru was appointed ( not elected by Indians) as Prime minister of India. Till this date this family controls Indian congress party (who ruled India for 65 years since 1947). This family obliged the British to remain in power. Earlier this family had muslim ancestors later they pretended to be Hindu but now the daughter in law took over as head of congress party and she is Christian.
      In Pakistan similarly Muslim league was caretakers but later Pakistan army done a coupe of constitutional leadership but they themselves became vassals of the Americans later.
      Never forget it took 75 years of independence to get a verdict in favor of Ram Mandir. 65 years of that was under congress rule.
      Because India was divided based on religion and India was made for Hindus. In 1951 when the constitution of India was drafted the British forced changes to the constitution of India via the Indian congress party to add clauses to protect rights of the minorities in India.
      So the Constitution of India says that Minorities of India have right to practice own religion, and they are allowed to teach own religion texts like bible in schools where minorities are in majority. But the congress party later translated that Hindus cannot get these same rights as minority as constitution does not clarify that Hindu majority schools can teach hindu texts like bhagwad gita and vedas in hindu majorty schools. Hence till date Hindu majorty schools in India cannot teach Bhagwad Gita and Vedas but Muslim majorty school are allowed to teach quran and Christian majority schools allowed to teach bible. Actually now hindus in Muslim majorty school must learn quran and bible if they go to Christian majority schools should they opt for it else they can choose social science. But there is not such arrangement for Hindu majority schools.
      Another thing that happened in 1951 is that Muslims who stayed back in India were not accepting universal law drafted for all Indians. So the congress party appointed Prime Minister Nehru allowed Muslims to follow partial sharia in India whereby they were allowed to marry 4 times but Hindus were denied this right despite their religious scripture do not require them to marry only once. As they were forced to accept universal law (renamed as Hindu code bill) which was universal code bill originally drafted for all Indians. Hindus who protested against this were shot dead. Hence no choice was left but for hindus to accept this. The impact of this was that the Hindu population which was 92% in 1946 changed over the years reduced o 76% and the muslim population in India increased from 8% to 24% but officially we are told muslim population is just 14% during last census.
      The constitution of India further said that minorites can manage own religions institutions and NGOs. But since the constitution did not clarify this for the hindu majority the Hindu temples in India for the last 75 years are controlled by the state government. And since the government officers can be christian or muslim so any officers can be assigned responsibility to manage the security and treasury of the temples. Congress made sure anyone who protests will be dead and media never covered anything nobody will be left alive to tell his story. Hence in India you can find temples controlled by Muslim or Christian IAS officers of the govt but this is never the case with churches and mosques. As there is no govt control in constitution for minority institutions,
      Since the govt controlled the treasury and security of the temples. they could at will withdraw money from temple treasury for the greater good of India and its minority welfare. many a times the money taken from treasury of temples was transferred to chief minister fund and then from there it was used for rice donations to Christians and Muslims during their festivals. This is why christian and muslims will only vote for congress party in India. Rice donation to minorities in billions of dollars made with temple funds. Very few news papers and media wrote about this
      Teaching Sanskrit in schools was already stopped by British in 18 century and replaced with foreign language Persian and English made compulsory. As you know the only language Hindus can read vedas or religious scripts is Sanskrit so gradually children was forced to leave Sanskrit due to which Indians now cannot read from own religious scriptures' so now they depend on the translations made by Germans, British, American Sanskrit scholars. We dont have the means to challenge them even if these translations are fake and corrupt because we dont have research funding in India for Sanskrit. Very few people know Sanskrit in India, Nehru and his congress gave funding for persian, arabic, urdu but not for sanskrit. Now Nasa uses sanskrit but Indians dont use sanskrit. And because Sanskrit is not taught and we cannot read our scriptures most Hindus donot know that Hindu was the name given to us by our invaders it was never the name of our religion, Sanatan dharma is the real name. We dont know that caste is not in Sanatan Dharma but a Portuguese word and British who captured caste in their census documents on purpose to divide Indians. Till date you will see christians & muslims always talking about caste discriminations which are fake, as they were never part of hindu religion. Sati became a practice after islamic invasions.
      During Islamic invasions girls would be kidnapped by Muslims so to avoid being kidnapped they would kill themselves in absence of any male family member alive to protect them. But the foreign wester writer wrote in their books that this was Hindu religious custom where as it was social solution social due to situation not part of religion. Such fake translations are constantly used in western media to demonize Hindus.
      The history Indian books and school curriculum books are written to glorify islamic invasions/ donot tell us much about the persecutions by the British but they also ignore to teach us about many of the great hindu rulers of the past. Hindu history is taught with a purpose to create low esteem among Hindus. Our school curriculum books show Hindus and Brahmins in low light. Recently our school teachers are even started teaching us that Kashmir does not belong to India which is far far away from the truth.
      Despite there is a Hindu majority in India it took us 75 years of court battle to get rights to a temple in India which was illegally occupied by Muslims and Hindus believed it to be birth place of one Hindu god but the case which was started before independence during British time they did not want the Hindus to have this temple so it was differed. This is because our Judiciary system still works they way British wanted them to work. It is not designed for justice but to keep Hindus deprived of justice. In 2019 the judment we have been waiting for a century finally came but we gave the muslims
      In 1990 in Kashmir the Kashmiri Hindu pandits the original inhabitants whose ancestors lived in Kashmir more then 5000 years faced exodus at the hands of the muslims who came from outside but some sections our Indian media were justifying the genocide and exodus of Hindus saying it was because the the hindus were too educated and hence holding privileged jobs in Kashmir which deprived the muslims so the kashmiri muslims have every right to lynch them to death and do their exodus.

  • @saugotaghosh7565
    @saugotaghosh7565 Před 2 lety +906

    Vikram is truly an intellectual. Very well researched and articulated agruguments.

    • @howto86421
      @howto86421 Před 2 lety

      @@guruv.k488 ? what's wrong

    • @sujoybiswas7147
      @sujoybiswas7147 Před 2 lety +38

      because , RW makes nowadays more research to speak ,and left just keep using same logic from 47s. That's why RW speakers looks more intellect

    • @Liberty55555
      @Liberty55555 Před 2 lety +3

      all that he has to say is unverified . no proof. well funded. and hence today. lol.

    • @yogeshgoel6268
      @yogeshgoel6268 Před 2 lety +7

      He should be our education minister and should rewrite history books include ayurveda history, spread of Hinduism to Cambodia, Chandragupta Maurya, rise of Bharat, southern kingdoms and history of temples. And should include glorious Hindu kings from north to south and east to west who actually protected India from foreign invaders with blood. India had history before Mughals. Also include truth of Mughals who converted people of India with taxes and killings. Include Sikh gurus sacrifices.

    • @Liberty55555
      @Liberty55555 Před 2 lety

      @@yogeshgoel6268 but if so much is included in book you will not be able to pass exam. lol i am so sure based on your comment i can bet on it. lol.

  • @arunimamisra1721
    @arunimamisra1721 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Who thought rajdeep was being stupid in the whole video?

  • @Ahaaan1111
    @Ahaaan1111 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Vikram Sampath dispalayed his facts and amazed us
    Shashi Tharoor mesmerized us with his vocabulary
    And finally Rajdeep Sardesai exibited his absolute idiocy as usual 😂😂😂😂

  • @ramennaidoo162
    @ramennaidoo162 Před 2 lety +208

    Rajdeep and Tharoor are being educated by Vikram "Let's be honest" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @somnathroy1710
    @somnathroy1710 Před 2 lety +1053

    “The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
    ― George Orwell

    • @RS93518
      @RS93518 Před 2 lety +4

      czcams.com/video/0J0aVLyZqoc/video.html
      Veersavakar biography

    • @satishkumarsajjan2132
      @satishkumarsajjan2132 Před 2 lety +1

      And how to do that??

    • @pranavsharma8454
      @pranavsharma8454 Před 2 lety +19

      As the British, Indian Congress mugal bhaktihar kliji types did

    • @Krishnendu792
      @Krishnendu792 Před 2 lety +15

      @@satishkumarsajjan2132 go through the NCERT history books. You will get your answers

    • @satishkumarsajjan2132
      @satishkumarsajjan2132 Před 2 lety

      @@Krishnendu792 I went through it. But i couldn't extract the method. Can u please tell.

  • @harappanhooligan
    @harappanhooligan Před 7 měsíci +1

    Idk about the moderator but both tharoor and vikram seemed very open minded and with good intentions. A very knowledgable discussion.

  • @IIrraaaa
    @IIrraaaa Před měsícem +1

    Imagine if we were truly taught our authentic history, presented with the same passion and eloquence as Vikram. Such an approach would have deeply instilled pride, respect, and invaluable lessons in young minds. They would have comprehended the profound sacrifices our ancestors endured, marveling at their unwavering brilliance and courage in the face of countless obstacles and unimaginable torture. It's disheartening to witness the prevailing lack of compassion and reverence for these extraordinary freedom fighters.
    Congress and Marxist historians, who shamefully played subservient roles to their Western masters and extremist Islamic leaders even post-independence, must never be absolved of their betrayal. Their actions have grievously impacted our collective psyche, resulting in a distressing lack of reverence towards our freedom fighters. Why did this tragic distortion occur? Simply put, they systematically dismantled our true history, erasing the noble deeds and sacrifices of our forebears.

  • @divyanshcnb
    @divyanshcnb Před 2 lety +693

    Dr. Sampath needs to be heard more, this man knows what He us talking. Him and K.K. Mohammad sir both should do series of sessions on in Indian History historically and archeologically as well

  • @jatinsoni1979
    @jatinsoni1979 Před 2 lety +1045

    Absolutely killed it VikramJi. Your book on Savarkar was a eye-opener!

  • @ashutoshpandey1049
    @ashutoshpandey1049 Před rokem +3

    Vikram you are just awesome 😎 we need both shashi and vikram because we need such debates but not rajdeep in between

  • @deep20233
    @deep20233 Před rokem +1

    Vikram sir, got goosebumps while hearing to your speech. Need to read your book and that is the priority for me now

  • @smitaadani5071
    @smitaadani5071 Před 2 lety +231

    2:1 and yet how gracefully he has conducted himself! Kudos Vikram Sampath 👏🏻

  • @musical5446
    @musical5446 Před 2 lety +290

    I have rarely seen tharoor being apologist in any interview to protect his party! Proud of you Vikram sampat! We need voices like you in international press debates representing India.

    • @AmicableAgnostic
      @AmicableAgnostic Před 2 lety +13

      Exactly and for the first time I saw that Tharoor didn't have an answer when he was asked how he wants people to remember British colonization but doesn't want to remember August 14 or brutality of Mughals. It's not easy to win any argument against Tharoor.

    • @shrutiv8866
      @shrutiv8866 Před 2 lety +26

      You should also watch J Sai Deepak completely demolish Shashi Tharoor on his own book launch event… Dr. Tharoor was absolutely short on replies by questions and facts bombarded by JSD.

    • @AmanSingh92
      @AmanSingh92 Před 2 lety +9

      @@shrutiv8866 Tharoor is one of the few people in Indian politics, who can go against the idelogy of his own party and apologies for it's wrongdoings on stage. A clap for Mr. Tharoor as well.

    • @shaitanknowsbest3822
      @shaitanknowsbest3822 Před 2 lety +1

      50% property right, TALAK ka right, Halala ban, job right, BURKHA freedom...gender equality..,👍✌😊.
      KYA AAP MAN-WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS SAHTE HAI?🙄 🙄
      czcams.com/video/ycaxJ6eamv/video.html
      QUR'AN 9:5, PARTITION REAL REASON.

    • @shaitanknowsbest3822
      @shaitanknowsbest3822 Před 2 lety

      @@shrutiv8866 mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌

  • @prathameshberde
    @prathameshberde Před 10 měsíci +2

    This Debate was Dr. Vikram Sampat Ji Vs Dr. Shashi Tharur teamed up with Rajdeep......
    Still Vakramji came out as a Winner. Simply owned both of them with his facts.....

  • @thesecondlife4832
    @thesecondlife4832 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Really admire the way Dr. Sampath carried himself in this debate and put forward his stand in an affirmative and composed manner.

  • @anilpillai9769
    @anilpillai9769 Před 2 lety +197

    This man Sardesai is insufferable. Baffles me, why would you put a guy like that in a debate like this?

    • @rdug2165
      @rdug2165 Před 2 lety +8

      Agree, what a greaseball. Just sits there with that shit eating grin on his face even when someone is openly confronting him

    • @akshaygp7789
      @akshaygp7789 Před 2 lety +8

      Well Pappu & his loyal 🐕 Dogs !!

    • @shreeharily
      @shreeharily Před 2 lety +1

      Insufferable... thats the word.

    • @shaitanknowsbest3822
      @shaitanknowsbest3822 Před 2 lety

      50% property right, TALAK ka right, Halala ban, job right, BURKHA freedom...gender equality..,👍✌😊.
      KYA AAP MAN-WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS SAHTE HAI?🙄 🙄
      czcams.com/video/ycaxJ6eamv/video.html
      QUR'AN 9:5, PARTITION REAL REASON.

  • @sadenb
    @sadenb Před 2 lety +154

    Tharoor knows Sampath is right on all the points. But he cant express himself because of his political affiliation.

    • @sachchidanand_speak
      @sachchidanand_speak Před 2 lety +2

      Correct 👍

    • @kausthubh7541
      @kausthubh7541 Před 2 lety

      And Vikram Sampath doesn't endorse rightists. 🙂

    • @sachchidanand_speak
      @sachchidanand_speak Před 2 lety

      @@kausthubh7541 😂😂

    • @SamvedIyer
      @SamvedIyer Před 2 lety +3

      @@kausthubh7541 We don't need his endorsement. For us, an objective corpus of history is enough to consolidate the conservative movement.

    • @atul1024
      @atul1024 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes 👍 true ,inside hindu is bothering and limiting him, coz India is only hope further

  • @jyotipoojari3583
    @jyotipoojari3583 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Vikram sampath sir 😢 a huge respect for holding all the truths and still being calm 🙏🙏♥️

  • @yj9032
    @yj9032 Před 10 měsíci +2

    While all the normie trads and RW folks are praising Dr. Sampath and bad mouthing Dr. Tharoor, I felt as if this was a debate between Rajdeep and Vikram where Dr. Tharoor was the moderator 😂.