Did Avril Lavigne's Voice CHANGE? Voice Teacher Reacts to Old Avril vs. New Avril

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  • čas přidán 26. 11. 2018
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    In this week's reaction video, I take a look at the Avril Lavigne controversy! I examine the theory that a vocal change in the performers style is supporting evidence of her death and then replacement (by a different person!). Did Avril get "replaced?" Is it a body double? Is the singing really that different?
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  • @voicehacks
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  • @lidia3450
    @lidia3450 Před 5 lety +1483

    And nobody has thought that the poor girl has been fighting Lyme disease for years, or that voices change as you get older, or get more experience and may decide to go a different vocal route. Jesus.

    • @TheDmario1234
      @TheDmario1234 Před 5 lety +11

      I agree

    • @Teddy-iv2sc
      @Teddy-iv2sc Před 5 lety +29

      She wasn’t struggling with Lyme disease back then but I agree with the rest of your comment

    • @Raacelavigne
      @Raacelavigne Před 5 lety

      @@TheDmario1234 i agree

    • @smartperson4225
      @smartperson4225 Před 5 lety +38

      Bella.Italiana.Fitness She only became ill with Lyme disease in 2014. It has nothing to do with this.

    • @elpetano
      @elpetano Před 5 lety +22

      Exactly! I know one singer who had a really crispy voice (in 2010) and in 2014 he had a Cristal clear voice, because his voice changed and he also practiced a lot so ... He's probably dead too 🤔

  • @Halocene
    @Halocene Před 5 lety +843

    A point that should be made; she uses the brighter tone on ALL albums. Easy explanation: she was a teenager pushing against the label wanting to make her a pop star. She was touring with lots of boys and punk artists at that time, and was trying to fit in. She settled back into her natural voice around 2005-2006.
    I also have videos from her in 2001 before her first album. She uses the brighter tone. It was just teenage angst!

    • @Asdfology
      @Asdfology Před 5 lety +17

      SOMETIMES (fkng awesome song btw) you're right. this is one of those times

    • @caelanraegn
      @caelanraegn Před 5 lety +4

      Halocene is that why she sounds so angry during the first video...????

    • @Metalhammer1993
      @Metalhammer1993 Před 5 lety +24

      @@caelanraegn it is a much more reasonable explanation than the replacement bogus at least xD in the end only avril knows

    • @cl5775
      @cl5775 Před 5 lety +1

      exactly !.

    • @suzie2787
      @suzie2787 Před 5 lety +2

      SHE'S THE BEST ON THE WORLD LOVE HER

  • @Reyarth100
    @Reyarth100 Před 5 lety +597

    Avril improved a lot but I think that a song like Complicated sounded way better in 2002/2003. A darker voice fits it better, but that's just my opinion.

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku Před 2 lety

      I was a boy. They were two girls. Can I make it any more obvious? I am the ULTlMATE L0VER on this platform. Don't enter the ch*nnel of me, AxxL, if you are not above a certain age, dear rey

    • @chengvizcarra8179
      @chengvizcarra8179 Před 2 lety +17

      Same. Her low dark voice fits her punk rock music more.

    • @stopntrafficinmyrastahat5107
      @stopntrafficinmyrastahat5107 Před rokem +11

      @@chengvizcarra8179 ,, because the nonavril cant sing like that.

    • @vashappenin7008
      @vashappenin7008 Před rokem

      Same

    • @kaylag9474
      @kaylag9474 Před rokem +4

      I agree. I loved her lower raspy voice

  • @meriembkr94
    @meriembkr94 Před 5 lety +594

    Personally I prefer her old voice

  • @ThePunkRockMBA
    @ThePunkRockMBA Před 5 lety +364

    I had no idea this was a thing lol. The internet is so weird!

    • @montsergirl
      @montsergirl Před 5 lety +7

      The Punk Rock MBA right? Me either. Crazy to me people think of crap like this

    • @SamiSmolboi
      @SamiSmolboi Před 5 lety +5

      Same. Lmfao

    • @Metalhammer1993
      @Metalhammer1993 Před 5 lety +4

      Internet is a crazy place

    • @voicehacks
      @voicehacks  Před 5 lety +35

      And how the hell does the internet come up with this because of a tiny nose job but Lil Kim replaces her entire face and it's like *crickets* on the internet haha

    • @nikkoo9595
      @nikkoo9595 Před 5 lety +4

      well Shane make the conspiracy theory popularized

  • @voxi666
    @voxi666 Před rokem +94

    She went from having a lovely voice, to being super squeaky. I'm not saying it's not her, but it is unusual for someone's voice to get squeaker the older she gets.

    • @xyex
      @xyex Před 9 měsíci +10

      She had Lyme disease and she stopped drinking, both of which effected her vocal chords.

    • @fififairuzfuyooo
      @fififairuzfuyooo Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's not common but not unusual either. Look up Serj Tankian from System of a Down and how he changed his voice over the years to preserve his vocal cords.

    • @paulwoodford1984
      @paulwoodford1984 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Ffs people keeping making this excuse. She only got lyme disease later in her career. The voice changing is very suspicious. i think she died @loveutilltheendoftimes

    • @peabrain6872
      @peabrain6872 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@paulwoodford1984do you understand how ridiculously disrespectful it is to claim somebody killed themselves

    • @11daemona
      @11daemona Před měsícem

      All this Lyme deseas comments like they know her personally, what I find weird is that so many ppl in the industry have some weird deseas 🤷

  • @trance212
    @trance212 Před 5 lety +553

    Vocal training and also I see that she may have had a nose job.

  • @awesomereviews1561
    @awesomereviews1561 Před 5 lety +245

    Makes sense that she would improve, especially since she started fairly young.

    • @corochka003
      @corochka003 Před 7 měsíci

      When? She's already lived almost half her life

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před 24 dny +1

      She didn't improve. Her voice sounded better in 2002

  • @ericcoombs
    @ericcoombs Před 5 lety +67

    The conspiracy is dumb. She's getting older and has been fighting Lyme disease.

    • @cius96
      @cius96 Před 3 lety +7

      During TBDT era (when she changed a lot) she wasn't that older, just a few years passed from the previous album. And when you get older your voice either stays the same or goes down, gets lower, it never gets higher. In Avril's case it got highet and it's weird. I don't believe in the theory either, but her changement is quite odd and unnatural

    • @laodanilo2529
      @laodanilo2529 Před 3 lety

      @@cius96 Rosé's voice got more higher when she got older tho

    • @Living_the_Highlight
      @Living_the_Highlight Před 2 lety +4

      It's not dumb. There's something really suspicious. I can feel it in my gut.

    • @ericcoombs
      @ericcoombs Před 2 lety

      She has been on TV

    • @Farhan-ft5mo
      @Farhan-ft5mo Před rokem +1

      @@Living_the_Highlight your gut feeling isn't evidence.

  • @SandiiCom
    @SandiiCom Před 2 lety +31

    Aside from the original Avril "darker" tone, her "s'" sounds always had the lazier "sh" and "ts" sounds, in both singing & speech... VS contrasting performances with a very crisp clean 's' sound instead... (eg: 1:33 vs 1:39). It was this inconsistency in both pronunciation of words, as well as shift in tone, and the way it kept alternating in various performances, which first had me curious... or should I say 'curioush'....

    • @erikaaguilar2050
      @erikaaguilar2050 Před rokem +4

      That ain't avril such a big difference

    • @cranburrey
      @cranburrey Před rokem +2

      @@erikaaguilar2050 If you were an Avril fan, you'd know in her early career she'd force her voice to go husky because of her "angsty teen" theme that went around her style and her mostly hanging out with guys🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @thelegendofthem6120
      @thelegendofthem6120 Před rokem +2

      @@summersalix my friend is from Canada and she had a strong Canadian accent years ago, but since moving to Texas she has basically dropped it and you wouldn't know it she was from Canada. So hun...when you get older and you get wrinkly let me know...I'll tell someone you died and have been replaced.

    • @summersalix
      @summersalix Před rokem +3

      @@thelegendofthem6120 cool story, hun. Weird ending

    • @thelegendofthem6120
      @thelegendofthem6120 Před rokem

      @@summersalix when you live in a fantasy land I see how real stories get you weirded it out. Let us know when you'd like to join us back here on Earth. For now enjoy your delusional world with unicorns, clones, and aliens.💋

  • @x3SophiexD
    @x3SophiexD Před 5 lety +177

    I can clearly hear a beginner and a trained singer in 2003 and newer performances,
    Just because she changed her style and got better doesn't mean she died
    Jesus christ people XDD

    • @amukhb8608
      @amukhb8608 Před 5 lety +3

      I love her old style very tomboyish xd

    • @lazylace2456
      @lazylace2456 Před 4 lety +1

      @@amukhb8608 teen-age year can't stay she's a girl

    • @melzinha6266
      @melzinha6266 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@lazylace2456What is the problem? If she liked being a bit of a boy, that was her problem, not the record company's or others 🙄 it seems like all girls in the industry need to be sensual, talent alone is enough

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před 24 dny

      Her beginner voice was better. It sounded more natural and effortless

  • @maialowell7894
    @maialowell7894 Před 5 lety +179

    It is not just her singing her regular voice is completely different in interviews

    • @Kuristofa138
      @Kuristofa138 Před 4 lety +29

      No, it's the same. It's a little deeper and she looses her Canadian accent over time, but same talking voice and laugh.

    • @simonesage515
      @simonesage515 Před 3 lety +11

      Sparkster She’s too old to lose her accent,

    • @milena1liva
      @milena1liva Před 3 lety +20

      @@simonesage515 shes not too old for lose her accent she dont live in canada for years, even harry styles is starting to lose his accent

    • @Luciecfcm
      @Luciecfcm Před 3 lety +11

      Your voice changes all throughout your life. Go ahead, record yourself every day and you'll hear the difference.
      Sometimes when people are nervous they tend to make their voice deeper or higher. Avril is a shy girl,l so this could explain why her voice is not always the same when she talks. In interviews, she talks way lower than she does in behind the scene or some kind of vlog videos.
      There are videos of her in 2002/2003 where she speaks with the exact same high voice as she does today

    • @cius96
      @cius96 Před 3 lety +26

      @@Kuristofa138 it's not deeper, it's higher and that's the odd thing. The voice should become deeper / lower while growing up and while getting old, but her voice became higher.

  • @cazward1412
    @cazward1412 Před 5 lety +96

    Did Mariah Carey die as well then.... 😒😏

  • @inofficialghostface
    @inofficialghostface Před 5 lety +71

    Also, her pronunciation is the same

  • @psychological6707
    @psychological6707 Před 5 lety +87

    Actually, your present and future self replaces your past self. Even on a cellular level. You are an entirely new being every 7 years.

    • @Brombit
      @Brombit Před 5 lety +16

      I think the brain cells are not replaced :P
      *goes to Google*
      I found an article that says that the neurons you're born with, stay for the rest of your life.
      So there's still some Avril Lavigne left from the original ;)

    • @Julio_Fiss
      @Julio_Fiss Před 5 lety +2

      @@Brombit They're not replaced but they age.

    • @Blackarachnia1996
      @Blackarachnia1996 Před 5 lety +2

      Hearing cells are also never replaced

    • @Machelle3200
      @Machelle3200 Před 5 lety +1

      I can definitely believe that but this person has a different vocal technique..No way it's the same genetic person.

    • @magicalpixie710
      @magicalpixie710 Před 5 lety

      Good point.

  • @angeramirez25
    @angeramirez25 Před 5 lety +51

    If you really look her eyes and lips shape you can tell they're the same. Internet is so weird

  • @mariopontecorvo3356
    @mariopontecorvo3356 Před 5 lety +67

    I agree on everything except for the fact that Avril’s a mezzo. She’s definitely a light lyric soprano who has developed a strong lower register.

    • @alisalavine1052
      @alisalavine1052 Před 5 lety +3

      Her tessitura is mezzo.

    • @alisalavine1052
      @alisalavine1052 Před 4 lety +10

      @J. O. I think she sits at that "high mezzo/not quite a true soprano" spot. But that's probably from lack of training. Katy Perry, until recently!!, does the same thing. Lower larynx position which means a lower secondo passagio. And straining to reach notes below A3. I understand she wants her tone to be rounder and darker but she really should embrace her light lyric soprano voice. I can only imagine what her vocal folds look like.
      But yes, I agree. She's a soprano who forces her voice type to be something it isn't.

    • @Itshollymoon
      @Itshollymoon Před 2 lety

      She’s definitely a mezzo

    • @TopLetsPlays
      @TopLetsPlays Před rokem +2

      The finale of _I'm With You_ 😍. Amazing soprano voice, but an even more amazing composing team called the Matrix. After they left "Avril" left too. They were Avril Lavigne.

  • @carolyntreadwell6298
    @carolyntreadwell6298 Před 4 lety +30

    Thank you for your insights, however, the comparison I find puzzling are in her interviews and how her speaking voice is totally different now. It's so much higher pitched, higher toned and faster.

    • @Luciecfcm
      @Luciecfcm Před 3 lety +5

      The thing is : your voice changes all throughout your life. Go ahead, record yourself every day and you'll hear the difference.
      Sometimes when people are nervous they tend to make their voice deeper or higher. Avril is a shy girl,l so this could explain why her voice is not always the same when she talks. In interviews, she talks way lower than she does in behind the scene or some kind of vlog videos.
      There are videos of her in 2002/2003 where she speaks with the exact same high voice as she does today

    • @carolyntreadwell6298
      @carolyntreadwell6298 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Luciecfcm I love your reasoning here, however, there are or many changes that I perceive where I find hard to rationalise it by pointing to mere age or development...

    • @glamoroussunset5361
      @glamoroussunset5361 Před rokem

      @@Luciecfcm rumor has it though that her body double back in 2002/2003 was also doing some interviews and some general public appearances on her behalf since she was having a hard time managing her new found almost instant fame and battling deep depression. So that could be why. But who knows lol

  • @TheComicbookguy78
    @TheComicbookguy78 Před 5 lety +32

    She was 17 on the first album SHE GREW UP!

    • @nickfoley9716
      @nickfoley9716 Před rokem +2

      Actually she was 16 when she was recording the album she turned 17 that September so yeah she definitely grew up

  • @HOLYMEREY
    @HOLYMEREY Před 5 lety +72

    My voice is changed too and iam not dead and iam a girl

    • @opheliarosexx6769
      @opheliarosexx6769 Před 5 lety +2

      marshall manson died!!!!11!!!! replaced by a clon named ashley!

    • @vidiarahma3597
      @vidiarahma3597 Před 4 lety

      Agree

    • @cius96
      @cius96 Před 3 lety

      How did it change tho? I bet it got lower, didn't it? When we grow up the voice can only go down, it never goes up. It's weird that in Avril's case it got higher

  • @FutileGrief
    @FutileGrief Před 5 lety +97

    Are people aware you should not look or sound the same at 34 as you were at 15? I don't know why it's so difficult to comprehend

    • @ashenrose2262
      @ashenrose2262 Před 5 lety +12

      I know it's crazy...don't compare an 18 year old with a 25 year old (that's the age she was in these preformances). Your voice still can change ESPECIALLY with vocal training

    • @bredjohnston3544
      @bredjohnston3544 Před 5 lety +2

      Lol seriously it’s like that catch
      Phrase Whatchuu talkin bout! No matter how many times he said it as he got older it sound different from the first time he said it back in the late 70s

    • @cius96
      @cius96 Před 3 lety +7

      In 2003 she was 19 not 15 lol... and in 2007 she was 23. I'm 24 and I have the EXACT same voice I had at 19. And when you grow your voice NEVER goes up, it can only go down, get lower. In Avril's case it went up in a few years and that's ODD.

    • @kitanaedenian2575
      @kitanaedenian2575 Před 3 lety

      @@cius96 u said that based on the studies u did with your ass

    • @PawDetective88
      @PawDetective88 Před 3 lety +3

      @@cius96 maybe you're not a singer with intense vocal training,? That's why your voice don't change,?

  • @sexibiatch318
    @sexibiatch318 Před 5 lety +13

    One thing about this whole conspiracy theory that no one seems to mention is before 2003; when ever Avril said the word “Else” she would say it in a way where it sounded like she was putting a T in it like “elTse”. I haven’t yet heard Avril say “else” after 2003 in a video. Go back and listen to the original recording of “Complicated” and you’ll hear it. If anyone finds a video of her saying it after 2003 let me know

    • @avrilislife8521
      @avrilislife8521 Před 5 lety +1

      Suzie McMullen watch “Tell Me It’s Over” and then come back

    • @sexibiatch318
      @sexibiatch318 Před 5 lety

      Avril Is Life just listened to it. Loved it. She said “Else” normally not like how she used to before 2003

    • @4usprosperity
      @4usprosperity Před 2 lety

      🧡❣❣❣😅😅

    • @4usprosperity
      @4usprosperity Před 2 lety

      @@sexibiatch318 love 💘

  • @BG12sofia
    @BG12sofia Před 5 lety +16

    Thank you for this video. Big fan of Avril for many years, never believed the conspiracy theory but I've always wondered about Avril's voice change between albums: from Let Go (her first one) to Under My Skin (her second one), from UMS to The Best Damn Thing (her third one). You've solved a mystery of almost ten years! 😁

  • @andrewdawn
    @andrewdawn Před 5 lety +25

    the person who even made the conspiracy theory said it was a vjoke and just for fun lol

  • @deathpenguin005
    @deathpenguin005 Před 5 lety +76

    She may have a body double just for avoiding media, but if she died we here in Canada would be sad. She's a national treasure.

    • @rachelannreyes5570
      @rachelannreyes5570 Před 3 lety +3

      Yes she is a legend❤️

    • @nineteeneightynine432
      @nineteeneightynine432 Před rokem

      Along with Micheal J Fox and Pam Anderson 🤔 those are the only other famous canadians I know.

    • @nycolbebraddy
      @nycolbebraddy Před rokem

      @@nineteeneightynine432 justin bieber

    • @islandboy4445
      @islandboy4445 Před rokem

      @@nineteeneightynine432 Mike Myers, Ryan Reynolds (I believe) and I think Martin Short 😊

    • @islandboy4445
      @islandboy4445 Před rokem

      @@StephanB.300 I don't think anyone in this specific thread are arguing that. Op was speaking hypothetically

  • @Azazel665
    @Azazel665 Před 5 lety +44

    Please analyze Maria Brink's screaming :D

  • @ashleyhopemarie
    @ashleyhopemarie Před 5 lety +20

    demi Lovato doesn't really sound the same to me either years of training

    • @aylabonar4425
      @aylabonar4425 Před 5 lety +3

      yep and anyone can go higher and lower i can and i am not very good at singing so i agree with that

    • @4usprosperity
      @4usprosperity Před 2 lety

      Love 💘 you ❤

  • @hendersonsarecrazy
    @hendersonsarecrazy Před 5 lety +21

    What a waste of time making a video like this.... course she’s gonna sound different from 16 to 30! Omg I can’t believe people actually believe this🤦🏼‍♀️🙄

  • @justme6934
    @justme6934 Před 5 lety +15

    But what about that Melissa chick who looks just like her. I’m still confused
    I also watched a video where her voice has changed. Not when she’s singing, but when she’s just taking. Her voice is so much high pitched compared to how she use to talk. Look up her old and new interviews to compare

    • @stevenhanratty9830
      @stevenhanratty9830 Před 5 lety +6

      JustMe Melissa doesn’t exist she was made up and avril is getting older so her looks and everything else changes

    • @ashenrose2262
      @ashenrose2262 Před 5 lety +8

      Vocal training can also change the way you sound while talking. Not to mention she's been fighting lyme disease for 5 years and that does a number on your vocal cords

    • @4usprosperity
      @4usprosperity Před 2 lety +1

      @@stevenhanratty9830 🧡🧡🤙🤗🤗🤗

  • @fatimasarah.5374
    @fatimasarah.5374 Před 5 lety +12

    her newer stuff is too underrated

  • @gabriellestanislaus
    @gabriellestanislaus Před 5 lety +35

    In addition to the vocal training and equipment she also changed her style. She has a high pitched voice and earlier in her career she did punk and grunge not as much pop so her tone needed to be darker as opposed to later in her career. If as a musician you can't adjust your tone and inflections that would be a lack of talent and she has immense talent.

    • @Stephaniewashere
      @Stephaniewashere Před rokem

      I thought everybody could do what youve explained but I guess not everyone can sing

  • @FireflyNight
    @FireflyNight Před 5 lety +40

    This theory really get me angry. She has matured. She is no longer a teen singing punk rock. People can't accept that she has grown up so they create stupid theories to deny the truth.

    • @SawyBoy
      @SawyBoy Před 5 lety +1

      firefly night Melissa exists though.

    • @ashenrose2262
      @ashenrose2262 Před 5 lety

      Exactly

    • @andystan2743
      @andystan2743 Před 5 lety +1

      Skyler Sroka where?? In your house huh?

    • @SawyBoy
      @SawyBoy Před 5 lety +1

      Andy Stan I’m sorry? I have a previous coworker who worked at 930 club for 11 years. He met “Avril” twice. One day I asked him if he ever met Avril Lavigne and he said “yeah! Did you know her name is Melissa?” So, if he’s not lying, at the very least, she exists.

    • @andystan2743
      @andystan2743 Před 5 lety +2

      Skyler Sroka uhm no thanks 🙄

  • @morganatchison
    @morganatchison Před 5 lety +107

    Not only her voice. Her whole demeanor.

    • @chilimilky1162
      @chilimilky1162 Před 4 lety +50

      Uhm cuz people grow up

    • @cozyday2225
      @cozyday2225 Před 3 lety +24

      she was a tomboy.... now she is a very feminine woman

    • @cheyennecrawford6486
      @cheyennecrawford6486 Před 3 lety +16

      It’s called phases of character. And ppl r influenced by the ones they have around them

    • @aprilprichard
      @aprilprichard Před 3 lety +16

      Agreed. I had never heard this theory before but I can clearly feel it. The soul is different. Much different

    • @Living_the_Highlight
      @Living_the_Highlight Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah she de-evolved for real

  • @amanshrestha2147
    @amanshrestha2147 Před 5 lety +32

    It's not about hitting the notes it's about signing from the heart
    That's the difference.

  • @rome8180
    @rome8180 Před 5 lety +45

    I think she both looks more interesting and sounds better in her earlier performances. Maybe not technically "better," but more authentic. Of course, I also listen to indie rock and punk music, so that's just my preferred sound.

    • @heididupre631
      @heididupre631 Před rokem +3

      Same!!!

    • @ellissep
      @ellissep Před rokem +6

      That's because she was actually she at that time.

    • @melzinha6266
      @melzinha6266 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yes, I also love rock music, she became a barbie and sensual, very strange

  • @RaquelRoxx
    @RaquelRoxx Před 5 lety +66

    I never fell for any conspiracy theories, but I will say I’ve been listening to her debut album and it sounds much better than her later ones where her voice is higher and more whiny.

    • @DiehardtNG10
      @DiehardtNG10 Před 4 lety +3

      Only CT I believe is Kurt Cobain was murdered.

    • @Living_the_Highlight
      @Living_the_Highlight Před 2 lety +1

      @@DiehardtNG10 Yeah by Courtney Love

    • @hugeslacker
      @hugeslacker Před 2 lety +1

      @@Living_the_Highlight and dave grohl. there's a reason why courntey and dave argue like lovers.

    • @spicybbqchicken
      @spicybbqchicken Před 2 lety

      @@hugeslacker not dave. but courtney definitely had something to do with it

    • @hugeslacker
      @hugeslacker Před 2 lety +1

      @@spicybbqchicken Kurt was in the process of kicking him out of nirvana and then he mysteriously dies?

  • @audreyburnside
    @audreyburnside Před 3 lety +58

    The reason she sounds different now than in 2003 is because
    SHE WENT FROM A TEENAGER TO AN ADULT SHE ISN’T DEAD SHE IS JUST AN ADULT NOW
    My god

    • @voicehacks
      @voicehacks  Před 3 lety +2

      😆😆😆😆

    • @Zi4_Tin4
      @Zi4_Tin4 Před 3 lety +8

      a girl's voice doesn't change from 16/17 to 20, but okay...

    • @Carlos-xz3vi
      @Carlos-xz3vi Před 3 lety +7

      @@Zi4_Tin4 It actually does.

    • @darkswan80
      @darkswan80 Před 2 lety +8

      @@Zi4_Tin4OF COURSE IT DOES. That's a moment when major changes in the voice can occur due to deep hormonal changes. It's not just boys. Girls and young women experience it too. Ask any speech therapist or any MD with knowledge of phoniatrics.

    • @leonardonelson9852
      @leonardonelson9852 Před 2 lety

      I’m 25 and my voice still sounds the same from when I was a teenager lol

  • @GaryLucasMusic
    @GaryLucasMusic Před 5 lety +58

    Great video, thanks for making it. I love Avril's voice and feel proud of her for developing her vocal technique as she's progressed in her career. However, there's something I love about that darker tone she had earlier in her career. Is there any way singers can access a bit of that darker tone to match their earlier style while also keeping their voice in good condition?

  • @KING-ZEAL
    @KING-ZEAL Před rokem +4

    Not the same voice, not the same eyes, not the same handwriting, not the same soul. I say this as a medium that has actually successfully helped federal agencies close cases. They would have not approached me if I couldn't do what I claim. They observed it.
    Not the same person. 100%.
    I have no dog in the fight, either way. But that is not the same woman. Different soul.

    • @KING-ZEAL
      @KING-ZEAL Před rokem +2

      And I rebuke the upside down cross on your shirt, worker of iniquity. I call you out, by discernment of the Lord. Witch.
      If that offends you, come with all you have. Spiritual warfare will be initiated immediately. Christ will strip you powerless immediately.
      Not a threat, a promise of the Lord God. Your words are meaningless babble. Her vocal talent was God given, as she comes from the church choir.
      This new woman does not have it and even forces NDAs for all that attend her gatherings. Even wearing a black wedding dress and other signs of intention.
      All confirmable.

  • @paigealexandra7030
    @paigealexandra7030 Před 5 lety +13

    Love the video, also to people that say she looks different, when avril first started her carreer she was alot younger and going through puberty as she grew older her face grew older and her features became more prominant and lost "baby fat" around her face.

    • @4usprosperity
      @4usprosperity Před 2 lety

      Love 💘 😻 💜

    • @nineteeneightynine432
      @nineteeneightynine432 Před rokem

      I'm sure she was done with puberty by 16. The conspiracy theories about her a ludacris..
      Haha Ludacris was from the same time period 😄

  • @Armylady74
    @Armylady74 Před 5 lety +10

    I saw Avril a few years ago when she toured with the Backstreet Boys! She was freakin amazing! She did a splendid job on Without You!

  • @Zi4_Tin4
    @Zi4_Tin4 Před 3 lety +41

    I think a lot of people think about this theory because her voice has changed, not only when she sings but also when she talks. before 2004 she had a fairly low voice and then she became loud. In interviews she says things and from 2004 onwards she says the exact opposite by talking about her personality. Sometimes she seems to have doubts about things in her life before 2004 and it takes her a while to respond by looking around for suggestions. Now I don't say I believe 100% but doubts arise because of these things. Because a person who wrote and sang a song with a certain tone, even if she learned to use a different pitch, would still sing it as it was originally in my opinion, she wouldn't change the musicality of the song just because she learned a new way of using her voice. There are a lot of things and details that make you think, but unfortunately there's no way to know the truth either...

    • @secretahsieg
      @secretahsieg Před 10 měsíci +2

      According to the theory she died in 2003. Now ask yourself why would they go out of their way to replace a singer that only went out the year before? Considering she only had a limited mainstream successful career.

  • @cjsteyn9573
    @cjsteyn9573 Před 5 lety +19

    She definitely has a LOT better technique now!!

  • @GR4YS0NN
    @GR4YS0NN Před 3 lety +8

    also, most of the things from 2007 her voice was edited to sound higher pitched, her label did it on the whole The Best Damn Thing era cause they were trying to put her on the Pop market. Her voice became a little higher with the time, yes, but if you watch videos from that time recorded from the fans and not by her label you can see the difference. And it goes through the years

    • @yukinamiuka
      @yukinamiuka Před 2 lety +1

      Her voice sounds so high pitched during the Goodbye Lullaby era

  • @SingingPageOfUnnatiandShikha

    Please check if Harry Styles is replaced or he only cut his hair
    (It’s a joke lol)

  • @earthbound8070
    @earthbound8070 Před 5 lety +65

    I think that in the 2007 video her larynx is higher placed than it should be as well. And overall that it is stylistic choice along with training/lack of training. As it is mentioned in the video she wanted to sound dark and rock in the past and more pop and "innocent" later.

    • @earthbound8070
      @earthbound8070 Před 5 lety +10

      Simone Simons' voice has also gone under a drastic change. She has lost her dark mezzo timbre through the years because of all the constant belting and trying to reach soprano notes. You could make a video about that.

    • @MrFinntrollin
      @MrFinntrollin Před 5 lety +3

      Definitely do a video on simmone

    • @Arabesque42
      @Arabesque42 Před 5 lety +2

      @@earthbound8070 how about you guys turn that into a question with a please? Since it's not you who have to go through the trouble of recording and editing a video and finding recordings. The way you guys worded it almost sounds like demanding, which probably doesn't sit well.

    • @earthbound8070
      @earthbound8070 Před 5 lety +5

      @@Arabesque42 how about being less rude yourself? I didn't make it into a question because I didn't ask Mary to do the Simone video. I said that this is an option, I did NOT make a request. If anything I am helping since she said that the idea for this video also came from a viewer. I know that these videos need work that's why I liked the video and I have subscribed.

    • @Arabesque42
      @Arabesque42 Před 5 lety +2

      @@earthbound8070 "You can make a video like that."
      "Definitely do a video on Simone."

  • @markboron5581
    @markboron5581 Před 4 lety

    First time seeing your channel and have to say I am a fan of how logically you broke this all down. You were fair in your analysis and you know your stuff. Nice job - I will check out more vids of yours :)

  • @septicsewer3696
    @septicsewer3696 Před rokem +1

    cool and great video mary z, great break down and analyzation thank you so much for this awesome content!

  • @MiddlePath33
    @MiddlePath33 Před rokem +3

    I could entertain the idea that she has an alter. When her voice lightened up, so did her entire persona. She went from angsty, sad rocker girl to a Paris Hilton type. That’s just odd. Would also explain why the key is the same but the timbre is different.

  • @LizEllynMoore
    @LizEllynMoore Před 5 lety +109

    I'd be fascinated if you did something similar with Amy Lee! Her voice definitely has changed since 2003 (I suppose due to vocal lessons too) however, she differs because I think she sounds deeper now. Would be interested to hear your opinion!

    • @fishfur9530
      @fishfur9530 Před 5 lety +17

      i used to be a huge fan of Evanescence and i agree. amy's voice shares some similar qualities now but when she was younger it was higher, sweeter, and vibrant. now it's deeper and thicker. i think part of it is age but also a different technique. in concert she switches to head voice where she used to belt (Call Me When You're Sober high note, Your Star, and Lacrymosa). i like both tones but i find myself preferring her old one more

    • @HeyItsZee_
      @HeyItsZee_ Před 5 lety +6

      Amy Lee has the voice of the angel

    • @faintwhisperproductions5694
      @faintwhisperproductions5694 Před 5 lety +2

      I don't think Amy sounds deeper now. Her voice is insanely beautiful in Synthesis.

    • @oldeboghag
      @oldeboghag Před 2 lety +2

      your voice tends to deepen as you age

    • @unknownkingdom
      @unknownkingdom Před 2 lety

      She smokes qnd that makes your voice deeper

  • @SammySavesTheDogs
    @SammySavesTheDogs Před 5 lety

    Thanks for making this video it was fun to watch! Avril lives!!!!

  • @joesaxman5495
    @joesaxman5495 Před 5 lety

    Thank you so much for making this! I learned a lot

  • @violetgirl1996
    @violetgirl1996 Před 5 lety +6

    My nose changed a lot from 18 to 22 and that is after the typical puberty age range, so I can say your features still develop a lot from your teens to adulthood

    • @purpledawn2727
      @purpledawn2727 Před 5 lety

      The nose and ears grows for the whole duration of a humans life (which explains why so many old peopla have big ears and noses), so most people will get a taller more defined nose just by aging.

    • @annatilson3513
      @annatilson3513 Před rokem +1

      Avril also did get a nose job too.

  • @HwasaSupremacy
    @HwasaSupremacy Před 5 lety +70

    Hiii can you react to 11 TIMES AVRIL LAVIGNE'S VOCALS HAD ME SHOOK??
    Btw I don't believe I this conspiracy she and her voice just changed after a nose surgery (she couldn't breathe properly) this happened around 2003 and now after her lyme disease and taking a lot of drugs she developed allergies and her voice changed again

    • @jrrcorcloudsaremine
      @jrrcorcloudsaremine Před 5 lety +1

      She never had plastic surgery or any surgery on her nose. If that was the case why does her nose look like it used to on and off? Yeah, you don’t have to believe it... she uses a double, especially when she’s not feeling well.

  • @hannahc107
    @hannahc107 Před 5 lety +3

    I legit got an ad of someone singing the cover to "Head above water"

  • @MandyKnox
    @MandyKnox Před 5 lety +9

    I still find it very difficult to accept that my voice is not as powerful as I would like it to be. I have sung for about 8 years and I still get angry because my voice goes naturally from belting to mixed. :(
    I just found your channel and I love your videos! I'm going to check all the screaming and belting ones, thank you very much for sharing them

    • @lormill4851
      @lormill4851 Před 5 lety +3

      I sometimes go mindlessly to mixed voice too. Check her vocal compression exercise on her warmups playlist, it's really good and it helps.

    • @MandyKnox
      @MandyKnox Před 5 lety +2

      @@lormill4851 thanks I will!
      I'm a soprano, do you know how high my belting should go? I feel it isn't too high (that's why I kinda dislike my mixed voice).

    • @lormill4851
      @lormill4851 Před 5 lety +2

      She has a video on voice types and ranges, too. I have some idea of overall range, but not belting in particular, so. When you can watch a professional, I think that'd be better. But I know there's a n app called vocal pitch monitor, which is actually really helpful to determine all your ranges.

    • @jakealcomendas9937
      @jakealcomendas9937 Před 5 lety

      Auphorium I think it's kinda good that you have able to develop your mixed voice because that means that you don't trouble in transitioning between your connected registers, also mixing your voice will help you hit high notes effortlessly rather than depending and pushing your chest voice/belt higher..

    • @4usprosperity
      @4usprosperity Před 2 lety

      @@lormill4851 🌺💌💛💛💌

  • @angelawhite8369
    @angelawhite8369 Před 5 lety +7

    I love your videos. Can you make a video comparing tarja turunen in her early years as a singer against now, i guess she sounded better in her early years, she still a powerful voice but i guess she use her head voice more clean before, well i don know much about singing techniques and i dont know how to explain it, but maybe if you listen to her before 2004, and after 2005 you would notice the change.

  • @opheliarosexx6769
    @opheliarosexx6769 Před 5 lety +6

    Her voice change was basically
    Roseanne before YG
    And Rose after YG
    Are we now gonna freak out about Rose being dead too??

  • @supreme704
    @supreme704 Před rokem +2

    After looking at the thumbnail and hearing the doppelganger, there shouldn't be any doubt

  • @faisalvamps527
    @faisalvamps527 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you so much. I enjoyed this video so much.

  • @Monicalia
    @Monicalia Před 5 lety +29

    I'm a singer myself and I should be considered the imposter too, because I don't sound anything like I did when I was 15 (I'm 27 right now). I used to be a very low alto, and now I became mezzosoprano due to being in the choir and having vocal training in college. But i guess it's just easier to say you died and been replaced. Honestly, ae people really this gullible? do your 25-30 year old self look and sound exactly the same like your 15-16 year old self? I highly doubt.
    thank you for the video!

  • @mysteriousfun4759
    @mysteriousfun4759 Před 4 lety +28

    The real Avril is still around and makes appearances here and there. But theres definitely someone in those interviews and live singing when you hear that certain lyrics are pronounced differently every single time when certain persona is applied. You cannot explain that cmon

  • @Sproutt
    @Sproutt Před 8 měsíci +2

    I remember hearing about this so long ago . Before Facebook and all and now it’s coming back again hmmm..

  • @mrorangepeel659
    @mrorangepeel659 Před rokem +2

    Isn’t it also her speaking voice that’s different and more squeaky and not just her singing voice. Add it all together with the signature change, nose job, sudden embrace of pop music and dresses and what you have is either a manufactured artist or a replacement. I’m not sure its a different person but rather a remoulded artist. Avril originally appeared to be a legit artist but perhaps she was always a product. The update to that product caught her original fan base out and they have been trying to explain away why the version they loved is now gone.

  • @paula5781
    @paula5781 Před 5 lety +12

    In one of her recent interviews her voice cracked and it sounded exactly like it did in 2002, also in some of her old videos she is talking in a high pitched voice and it sounds like it does now

  • @scarlettjane5240
    @scarlettjane5240 Před 5 lety +4

    Right...Because Avril is *SO* important (don't get me wrong, Avril has been my queen since I was 4) that instead of saying Avril is dead, they have to replace her... If she was...
    I honestly only heard about this like, a week ago...

  • @JadeWestTristan
    @JadeWestTristan Před 3 lety +1

    Thx for clearing this up

  • @mmmal9376
    @mmmal9376 Před 5 lety

    I'm loving you for this. Thanks 🤘

  • @joeswampdawghenry
    @joeswampdawghenry Před rokem +3

    Is there a interview with her mom.. Dad.... Her double...?mellisa vandella

  • @lancelee3961
    @lancelee3961 Před 5 lety +8

    Wow. Recognize that.. nothing isn't change but? how about the height?

  • @AlessandraLampertico
    @AlessandraLampertico Před rokem +2

    I am a fan of Avril since 2002. I have been singing her songs since then. If you listen to a recording of mine back in 2007 and then a recording of the same song now I have two different voices 😅 I am not an expert but I think this might be because I got older and in the meanwhile I also took singing lessons for a few years and I can really feel my voice changed.

  • @avrilsairconditioner917

    Thank you for this video🙏🏻

  • @TierraRobbins
    @TierraRobbins Před 5 lety +6

    Certain medications can influence the voice too. I have Hypothyroidism and when I started to take medication for it, it felt like I went through a second puberty and my voice changed slightly because my medication is hormone base.

  • @BisexualBeauty
    @BisexualBeauty Před 5 lety +4

    She sings it completely diff tho...its like a diff song, point of the song is the sound being darker not all poppy...so she should try and keep same vibe...i get she is older and stuff but she deff got bright and glowy compared to emo n stuff from b4...maybe she did change we all do but she will obv have a new fan base since her sound has changed.

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    @voicehacks  Před 2 lety

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  • @timcarder2170
    @timcarder2170 Před 5 lety

    that first vid (2003)has a crisp clean sound which (to me) sounds like a studio audio track was layered onto live footage before dvd/digital release....which is a fairly common practice....you can go through tons, of so-called live videos, and hear obvious studio audio, of big (and small) bands/artists on youtube and elsewhere (including concert dvd's)

  • @josephvanwyk2088
    @josephvanwyk2088 Před 4 lety +29

    The Avril I listened to as a kid, was introvert punk rock queen. The [lookalike] is bubbly, extrovert that shows a very different body language completely. If you are 40 years old - YOU WILL have the same mannerism when you were 21 and you will have the same mannerism when you are 75. Either someone brainwashed her with a different persona, or she got super lucky to find someone that looks like her (and perhaps altered herself to Avril's image).

  • @Blackarachnia1996
    @Blackarachnia1996 Před 5 lety +46

    Awesome analysis, I think you nailed it! I always thought Avril was deepening her voice to sound more rock for her first two albums, but once Girlfriend came along she definitely flipped the other way and may have even intentionally gone nasally to sound more bratty. I think now with Head Above Water we are hearing her true voice.

  • @Sproutt
    @Sproutt Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think it’s not Avril. She was a song writer. And I think they just had songs left over to re-record. Also other artist sung songs written by Avril. And I guess i think how come she hasn’t come out with a new album or at least it took her way to long to release something significant.

  • @U2fan24
    @U2fan24 Před rokem +2

    If she had been replaced the vocal coaching could have gone either way. So... you'd think her imposter would have been trained to sound closer/identical to 2003 Avril.
    Also... keeping up with whoever's trending would influence your sound. Another hugely successful Canadian songwriter (whom would have been a big influence on Avril) is Alanis Morissette. Her look and genre changed drastically as well after "Jagged Little Pill." Now, in 2003 Alanis wasn't exactly trending. But what was..? SEXY that's what. Britney, Shakira etc... but more importantly pop music. But keeping up with the Jones's and perfecting your craft takes time.
    Avril is smart, and a brilliant song writer (which makes me proud to be Canadian) and the 2003 Avril was no exception to having sex appeal, she could pull it off if she wanted to make that transition.
    Obviously this would have been a big move for her to transition from punk to pop - with losing fans being a very likely scenario, so she had a tough decision to make but ultimately decided to "Let Go".
    Punk music has punk followers and what do punks do...? They rebel. The realization that Avril is a follower and not a trend setter leads her fans to get upset, start rumors which leads to conspiracy theories.
    But you do what you gotta do to keep up and stay current. This whole conspiracy thing is keeping her current as well. It's very creepy and ridiculous, but it's not exactly negative... it's mysterious and intriguing. If everyone just accepted Elvis's death then would he be trending with a hit movie in 2022?
    All the great ones have conspiracy theories. Again, I think Avril is smart and realizes this, hence why she just laughs it off and doesn't comment much either way.
    Personally though I don't think her music has changed much. Style (yes) music (no). Those who like Avril's music should be the true fans and come to the realization that it's still her, working hard, contributing, and making beautiful history for our ears and souls.

  • @michellehayes6202
    @michellehayes6202 Před 5 lety +5

    Lzzy Hale said that her voice had changed over the last few years where she had to adapt to her new voice. It's interesting

    • @laartje24
      @laartje24 Před 5 lety

      Where did she say this? I am interested. Halestorm is one of my favorite bands.

    • @Arabesque42
      @Arabesque42 Před 5 lety +1

      @@laartje24 I think she talks about it a lot in her Tumblr!

    • @laartje24
      @laartje24 Před 5 lety

      @@Arabesque42 Thank you. I don't have tumbler so that would explain .

    • @michellehayes6202
      @michellehayes6202 Před 5 lety +1

      @@laartje24 I don't think I have an account. I just was reading her blogs one day!

  • @Pamela.Schultz
    @Pamela.Schultz Před 5 lety +3

    If you listen to the original recording from Avril's first album it's in that same voice as in the 2007 concert. Now, when I first saw the video for Head Above Water I said "that is not Avril". It doesn't look like her at all, however, I do not believe and have never believed the conspiracy.

  • @quonmaurice596
    @quonmaurice596 Před 5 lety +2

    Wow !!! Great topic...I was just telling my friend about my voice when I was younger ! When I started singing from age 12-15 my voice was heavy and dark and much more of a Baritone. Now that I'm 26 my voice is a lot lighter than heavy. I can even hit higher notes and hold them. I know in male singers it can be the total opposite where as a younger man may have a higher voice. Then when he get's older the voice becomes deeper, and heavier but my voice is the total opposite. Sometimes I miss that heaviness sound because there was a lot of power there lol. I still have the power but that sound was bad ass for a 15 year old. I love Avril btw !!!!

  • @Scientist19exe
    @Scientist19exe Před rokem +2

    My voice got deeper as I grew older.
    Should have known, I got fking replaced.

  • @drewskkiiii
    @drewskkiiii Před 4 lety +3

    Melissa- please give us back the real Avril

  • @unbound.by.fate.
    @unbound.by.fate. Před 5 lety +3

    The first video showed two different moods. The 2003 video shows her not really being into it and standing still. The 2007 shows her more into it and moving around.

  • @noelwallace8680
    @noelwallace8680 Před 5 lety

    Thank you so much for doing this video! I was so scared my Avril was gone forever. Lol.

  • @EverxSing
    @EverxSing Před 5 lety

    I heard what you were talking about! And I've noticed that I needed to change keys to hit notes sometimes. No professional vocal training here.

  • @mariacristinadu366
    @mariacristinadu366 Před 5 lety +5

    Not only the voice. How about the physical appearance..?

    • @kriskrossapplesauce9082
      @kriskrossapplesauce9082 Před 5 lety

      And why doesn't she prove it by posing with Michelle, to prove us all wrong?
      Bc she can't.

  • @miku1849
    @miku1849 Před 4 lety +3

    sometimes i sing in one voice and sometimes another. it’s easy. who says Avril had to sing in the same voice forever?

    • @alexandrabarrels2660
      @alexandrabarrels2660 Před 4 lety +1

      Biggest proof that she is alive czcams.com/video/-KyHAxU9TjI/video.html

  • @ermanely2381
    @ermanely2381 Před 5 lety

    This give so much sense to me, thank you

  • @jasmommy247
    @jasmommy247 Před 5 lety

    Wow I really wish I knew u personally bc I would def come to you to continue my training.

  • @angrylamo
    @angrylamo Před 5 lety +4

    Earlier in her career she was required to sing like a "girl with guitar next door singing in garage". Later the requirement was removed. Avril was a pure producer project. Plus the quality of her rig differs very much from vido to video, her old rig sounds better(why?) in general...
    Also she seems not liking to sing her early music

  • @Jcp108
    @Jcp108 Před 5 lety +20

    As a singer I can tell you the voice changes over the years it matures, avril didn’t die she just got older , also production of the voice can change as well, voice mannerisms can remain , avril s voice have the same mannerisms, ie word pronouncing is a factor , the key of the song can go down through age, a nose job can change voice as well , I had my nose done and my voice changed for the better, voice coaching will change her voice too

  • @periloustimes7
    @periloustimes7 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I don't think she died. I think she uses a double for help. She has been seen in some videos with Avril. Simple, many people use doubles, even actors.

  • @emily7195
    @emily7195 Před rokem +2

    There's no way that's the same person the expression and mannerism of the voice is totally different let alone the sound

  • @dbswaistbeads
    @dbswaistbeads Před rokem +21

    so her voice went from deep to high pitch....usually as a kid your voice is higher and get deeper when you're older

    • @laur643
      @laur643 Před 5 měsíci +1

      She was faking her voice at the beginning and then she learnt to accept her true higher voice later

  • @OtakusVoid
    @OtakusVoid Před 2 lety +10

    Not just someone
    Avril Lavigne’s backup singer AND body double, Melissa Vandella

  • @tomilance3005
    @tomilance3005 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I heard what you heard, and I'm glad you broke it down.