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  • I am a big fan of American Standard. Out of all the tub manufactures out there, I've always been able to rely on American Standard to have a long lasting product. And they have a lifetime warranty on their tubs! In this video I will demonstrate how to install an American Standard Americast Princeton tub. For more details and helpful links 👇👇
    This tub features an above floor rough-in drain which is ideal for bathroom remodels. Especially if you are uncertain of framing positions within your bathroom or have engineered joists that can not be modified.
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    0:00 How to install an American Standard Princeton Bathtub
    0:12 Replace existing drum trap when installing a new bathtub in a bathroom remodel
    0:24 Why is my tub draining slow? One reason is the tub could have a Drum trap - bad plumbing
    0:43 Cut existing plumbing to install a new bathtub in a bathroom renovation
    1:30 When installing a new bathtub, be sure to have a good subfloor to go over
    2:40 Install a bathtub with a rough-in drain above floor to prevent cutting floor joists
    3:05 Cut subfloor around drain location to connect plumbing when installing a bathtub in a bathroom remodel
    3:56 How to connect new plumbing for a bathtub to copper drains
    5:23 How to avoid cutting floor joists when installing a new bathtub
    6:05 Install new plywood under a bathtub for a new bathroom makeover
    6:16 Connect drain assembly to a new tub before setting into place; Easiest way to install a bath tub by yourself
    6:31 Use silicon instead of plumbers putty for bathtub drain connection; If the manufacture of tub approves it
    11:32 Apply silicon to overflow of tub to prevent leaking
    13:43 How to set a bath tub level in a bathroom remodel; Dry fit tub and mark studs for ledger board height
    15:59 Attach plumbing (p-trap) before setting a new bathtub in a bathroom remodel
    18:59 Apply silicon on ledger board before setting new bath tub into place; How to install a bathtub
    19:37 NO extension jambs on interior of a bathroom door
    19:46 How to install a bathtub and fasten to wall - Use fender washers
    20:36 Install P-trap on a new tub installation after tub is set in place
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Komentáře • 113

  • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
    @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před 2 lety +22

    One thing I want to mention that some people may not like about these tubs with above floor rough-ins; the tub looks like a deep soaker, but is a standard 15” deep tub inside. The space for the rough-in drain raises the bottom of tub, so you are sitting or standing much higher than you typically would in a normal tub. something to be aware of

    • @gnarlybark
      @gnarlybark Před 2 lety +2

      Good point, especially for senior citizens. Please add a future video for retrofitting grab bars for entering and exiting a bathtub, since falls lead to bad outcomes.

    • @jjc355
      @jjc355 Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks for the great videos. Question. I do have access under the tub via crawlspace. Do I need the above floor rough-in tub? Thanks.

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před 3 měsíci

      @@jjc355 no, only if joists are in the way of drain assembly. 👍

  • @davesfx437
    @davesfx437 Před 5 měsíci

    One of the best videos I’ve seen about tub installation 👍

  • @micuzzu
    @micuzzu Před 2 lety

    Learned so much! Thank you sir

  • @nikkiwhite1845
    @nikkiwhite1845 Před 2 lety +2

    Really helpful tips on installing a bathtub! Thanks, Steve!

  • @claylapointe88
    @claylapointe88 Před rokem +2

    Am not going to do any of this ,just amazed and impressed with the workmanship .😀

  • @ysaacrodriguez3132
    @ysaacrodriguez3132 Před 2 lety +1

    Very good job.!!

  • @sergiogonzalez-es6qg
    @sergiogonzalez-es6qg Před 11 měsíci

    thank you for the knowledge you share! really useful👍

  • @MRPETER1
    @MRPETER1 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for the video, I'm installing similar enamel tub but I don't have access from the other side of the wall (well I could but trying to avoid it) and there are also copper fittings in place, so can't put the tub sidewise to then turn it 90*. Any advice? I guess I'll need to remove more drywall around and just slide it in place horizontally, right? It really is a tight fit.

  • @ddoperations2768
    @ddoperations2768 Před rokem +1

    Awesome video thanks

  • @SKOKMKJK
    @SKOKMKJK Před rokem

    When you installed a backer board in this case, did you use 7/16" OSB board piece on existing stud to place board inside of tub edge? OR just set a backer board by slightly level inward with 1-1/4 washer installed?

  • @paulkern8825
    @paulkern8825 Před 2 lety +5

    I’m a service plumber and if I worked in the same state as this guy and his silicone I think I would move. Holy cow! He does get the job done though and it looks nice.

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před 2 lety +2

      😆 yeah I always told myself, once I get asked to replace the stuff I’ve installed, I’m done! 😆 thanks 👍

    • @shantor100
      @shantor100 Před 2 lety

      Plus you may or may not be able to undo that boot with the screw ends facing up

    • @joecenturion
      @joecenturion Před rokem +1

      @@shantor100 Plumber's putty will last 10 years and they say it will not harden. I just removed a 50 year old tub drain and the putty is hard and brittle. Silicone will last 20 years and will harden and is difficult to remove. But who is going to use the same fixture after 20 years anyway!

    • @shantor100
      @shantor100 Před rokem

      @@joecenturion true

    • @TheMusicman961
      @TheMusicman961 Před 21 dnem

      @@joecenturion ME! My tub is 40 years old maybe? I've been in the house for 36 years...guess what I am replacing it this weekend LOL Plumbers putty or Silicone? Which should I use? Delta acrylic tub, my delta shower with plumbers putty starts to drip every 3 or 4 months and I have to tighten the drain a bit to stop it. Any idea why?

  • @fixit9888
    @fixit9888 Před rokem

    Hi, is it possible to bend the flange of the tub in order to make it fit? I have a porcelain coated tub and the space is about 1/8-1/4 inch narrower than what I need it to be. I know that the flange of the tub might make a difference

  • @josedepaz9364
    @josedepaz9364 Před 2 lety

    Nice Job My friend

  • @matthewmcclure1005
    @matthewmcclure1005 Před 2 lety

    best I've seen

  • @miguelcamacho7009
    @miguelcamacho7009 Před 2 lety

    good job......!

  • @joelaubenthal1423
    @joelaubenthal1423 Před rokem

    Do you have to remove the black resin around the lip of the Americast tub so that the steel tub flange sets against the wall studs and backer board?

  • @jeffbarta6276
    @jeffbarta6276 Před 6 měsíci

    thanks for your help ....

  • @farealwitit7947
    @farealwitit7947 Před 2 lety

    gr8 job ty!!!

  • @paulmaxwell8851
    @paulmaxwell8851 Před 2 měsíci

    Good install! I have just a couple of thoughts. First, being out of level 1/4 over 4 feet is too much in my books. It just makes a perfect tile job so much more difficult. In this case, at least the slope assists the draining of the tub. If the floor sloped the other way draining would slow.
    Second, I always deburr all pipe carefully, even factory cuts. It takes extra time but sharp edges and burrs catch long hair and can cause flow problems over time. My wife has long hair so I speak from experience.
    Anyways, good job! You earned your pay.

  • @TroyFootballGregKipp
    @TroyFootballGregKipp Před rokem

    can the tub still be removed with tub wrench if you use silicone over plumbers putty?

  • @labuildingllc
    @labuildingllc Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you 🤝 Spanish subtitles 😎

  • @jeffbarta6276
    @jeffbarta6276 Před 6 měsíci

    your good!!!!!

  • @blueticecho5690
    @blueticecho5690 Před 2 lety +3

    I always run a drain snake down through especially if system is very old ( drum trap ) saves a call back ...

  • @elmono3939
    @elmono3939 Před rokem +6

    Nice. Few things: The Fernco rubber ocupling you ended up using is not good for concealed pipe locations. You should have used No-Hub shielded coupling that actually fits over 1 1/2" Copper pipe (the one you showed us in the beginning of the clip ). Second that PVC riser cannot change size below the weir of the trap. You should have gone higher with that riser connecting trap and tub overflow drain., Lastly, I am perplexed by the use of silicone ! Otherwise, thumb up !

  • @felibestplumbing
    @felibestplumbing Před rokem

    nice video

  • @vajona2495
    @vajona2495 Před 6 měsíci

    Does the male metal threads from drain not crack females end of the abs/pvc, over time?

  • @ducnguyen-iv9px
    @ducnguyen-iv9px Před rokem +1

    From 20:48’ I don’t see how did you install the P trap to the bathtub.

  • @plumbingimmortal1709
    @plumbingimmortal1709 Před 2 lety +12

    The next guy is gonna hate you for using silicone on the tub drain

    • @b.m.4066
      @b.m.4066 Před 3 měsíci +1

      On most acrylic tubs and shower pans they say to use silicone instead of plumber's putty in the instructions

  • @bmcc12
    @bmcc12 Před rokem +1

    I installed one of these tubs in my own house. I like to use a Kohler cast-iron tub, but working alone I had to use the Americast. I hate it, I have always hated it, and I always will. The darn thing oil canned on me the first time I used it, and every time I used it. I had to go downstairs, open the ceiling, grill the above floor and fill the space with great stuff.

    • @jjphresh7058
      @jjphresh7058 Před 3 měsíci

      What do you mean "oil canned"? Thanks. Was looking into this tub but not sure how it would hold up in the long run.

    • @bmcc12
      @bmcc12 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jjphresh7058 in the old days, oil cans had a slightly domed bottom. When pressed, the bottom flexed, making a sound when the dome popped the other way. The tub did a similar thing when I stepped on it. It flexed, I suppose because the metal is too thin. At the time I weighed around 225 or so.

    • @jjphresh7058
      @jjphresh7058 Před 3 měsíci

      @@bmcc12 Oh ok, I understand now. I read on another review that there was constant “pop” sound when exiting the tub. I imagine that’s what this was. Thanks again!

  • @haplo819
    @haplo819 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for the video. I found out this past weekend during my remodel that the plumbing vent for my tub is actually partially within the 30"x60" space for the tub. They ran the vent in a corner where the old tub contour allowed for them to fit the vent pipe in and down to the drain, then they ran the vent up the stud wall cavity. Is this normal? Now I need to find a new tub that has the same profile to allow the vent to stay where it is. Thank you

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, sometimes vents are placed there. Not really sure why some do that. But most of the time they are tucked in corner or front where a regular tub would clear it. If not, you may want to reroute the vent. Sorry for delayed response, did you make out okay on it?

    • @haplo819
      @haplo819 Před 2 lety

      @@BathroomRemodelingTeacher I decided to go with a shower pan and I built up a false floor of about 4" to clear the vent. I hope it all works out.

  • @daleon96
    @daleon96 Před 2 lety +6

    Only thing is, a 1/4 in out of level might not matter to most plumbers, but it matters to us that have to either install the tile or tub surround...1/4 in. Is alot

  • @bstube6535
    @bstube6535 Před 2 lety

    I am going with a princeton over rough with integral drain because of your excellent videos. Newbie question: you are using a clear is 100 % "sealant" vs. a silicone "caulk" correct?

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před 2 lety +3

      Yes, 100% silicon. One thing to note on those integral Princeton tubs, the trap typically needs to be directly below it. So make sure you don’t have a joist in the way! If you haven’t already my course will help out with everything else 👍 bathroomremodeling.teachable.com/p/tub-shower-bathroom-remodel-in-7-days-or-less

  • @pfitzpatrick333
    @pfitzpatrick333 Před 2 lety +1

    Really informative video! I saw the bucket there but wasn’t sure if you set a mortar bed or not. I’m doing one now that doesn’t have a perfectly level subfloor. The tub says it doesn’t need one but I don’t want any creaking. I heard some guys use spray foam instead of mortar. What do you suggest?

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před 2 lety +2

      Definitely mortar. Spray foam doesn’t do much and isn’t Structral (I’m sure they’ll come out with one that is some day…) this specific tub is above roughin, so the base of tub was like 8” recessed at bottom, but standard tubs you can easily set in mortar. I was actually going to set this in mortar but didn’t realize it was that much height, 😆 I wouldn’t necessarily recommend an above rough in, unless you really need it 👍

    • @ItsWaleedsWorld
      @ItsWaleedsWorld Před 2 lety

      @@BathroomRemodelingTeacher hey so I just ordered this same tub actually with the above floor drain. With that being said, do I not need to pour mortar before putting the tub down?

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před 2 lety +1

      @@ItsWaleedsWorld no, it’s sturdy enough without it. Plus the bottom of tub will be like 4” off of floor. Would take a lot of mortar to fill it, 😆

    • @ItsWaleedsWorld
      @ItsWaleedsWorld Před 2 lety

      @@BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      lol I figured would have been nearly impossible with that much heigh haha. So now I have 4 options. Which would be your preference. All Princeton tubs:
      - above floor rough in tub
      - above floor rough in tub with integral drain/ built in drain
      - in floor rough in tub
      - in floor rough in tub with integral drain/ built in drain
      Everything is out of stock I ordered all 4, not sure which to use hahaha.. will cancel the other 3. lol

    • @1coppertop
      @1coppertop Před rokem

      I too noticed the mortar bucket and thought you set the tub in a bed of it. Should a wood platform be built for stability and support of the bottom. Seems necessary to do it best. I think your videos are very informative. Thank you

  • @stevenmorris3181
    @stevenmorris3181 Před rokem

    Old house with DWV copper and brass venting. Looks like the plumbing system is worth more than the rest of the house

  • @ktmkilljoy
    @ktmkilljoy Před rokem

    mortar under the tub?

  • @svenamundsen4080
    @svenamundsen4080 Před rokem

    Perhaps a dumb question but was this bathtub in an upstairs bathroom?

  • @duramax0103
    @duramax0103 Před rokem

    I need replace my current one piece bath tub however the current bath tub opening measures 58 3/4". Of all the bath tubs I came across measure 60". Any recommendations?

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před rokem

      Are you measuring from rough framing or from current finished wall?

    • @duramax0103
      @duramax0103 Před rokem

      @@BathroomRemodelingTeacher I measure the current bath tub in place now.

    • @duramax0103
      @duramax0103 Před rokem

      It will fit. I removed drywall around the bath wall and it measures 60” from rough framing.

  • @fz0gtg
    @fz0gtg Před rokem +4

    I’m not sure it’s a good idea to apply silicone to rubber seals as the rubber seal is compressible and functions via contact area and pressure where cured silicone is incompressible relying on adhesion and elasticity of the cured product to seal. Also if you ever need to service the drain/overflow it’s going to make thing difficult.

  • @mikev4079
    @mikev4079 Před 7 měsíci

    did he go from ABS to PVC? is that ok?

  • @paulradice3534
    @paulradice3534 Před 5 měsíci

    Plumbers Putty always.
    Trip lever is always in place in floor before tub is set.
    Bathroom Handyman LLC

  • @lrc87290
    @lrc87290 Před 2 lety

    Is it possible to install an above floor drain tub or a standard type tub without access fry below or behind? Thanks

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před 2 lety +2

      It is for sure. I typically run into no access situations in basements a lot. It takes a bit more accuracy, but you need to set the trap at the right location before setting tub into place. This requires dry fitting the tub a bunch of times to get it right. I demonstrate this in this video - czcams.com/video/fLKRSQJLb2E/video.html
      And if you wouldn’t mind, after watching that video on the other channel, please leave a comment to Jeff telling him to pay me. He thinks he owns all those videos I’m in and has stopped paying me. Thanks

    • @lrc87290
      @lrc87290 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BathroomRemodelingTeacher Will do. That's horrible he hasn't paid you. I figured you went out on your own. I love your videos. It just takes a while to build a following. I know nothing about how youtube works but try having some click bait titles.

  • @shantor100
    @shantor100 Před 2 lety +1

    I think with a surround unit you have to be perfectly level. I'm with you on tiling but people like those dumb surround units

  • @TexasTimelapse
    @TexasTimelapse Před rokem

    Silicone??

  • @stephenbrown9949
    @stephenbrown9949 Před 2 lety +5

    Fellas, find yourself a girl that loves you as much as this man loves silicone.

    • @johnlagreca6288
      @johnlagreca6288 Před rokem

      I put my tub in back in '78 with putty and the ring under the tub and it is dry to this day.

  • @paco158
    @paco158 Před 4 měsíci

    Isn't 1 floor joist compromised, where it was notched to accommodate the old plumbing? The maximum amount that can be removed safely is 1/3 the depth of the joist; otherwise, the joist should be sistered with new lumber.

  • @culau3
    @culau3 Před rokem

    how do you know when a home has asbestos or lead? im always scared to mess with older homes because of it.

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před rokem

      I think there are test kits, but assume it’s in everything if built before 1970

    • @culau3
      @culau3 Před rokem

      @@BathroomRemodelingTeacher do you test it to find out for sure?

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před rokem

      @@culau3 no try to ignore how much I’ve already inhaled 😆
      I’m not sure fiberglass is much different. Asbestos just got all the lawyers behind it

  • @PhatBoyiee
    @PhatBoyiee Před rokem +1

    Using the silicone will make it nearly impossible to replace the tub drain in the future.

  • @bigbob9702
    @bigbob9702 Před 2 lety +1

    Did u put mortar down??? Saw the bucket. How did u access the final connection of the drain. That’s the hardest part of this and I’m still scratching my head..,

  • @RR-ce9tu
    @RR-ce9tu Před rokem

    whats the point of the ledger board?

  • @ceneb3731
    @ceneb3731 Před rokem

    Why not tear out the rotten subfloor?

  • @joesmith9053
    @joesmith9053 Před 2 lety +2

    THOSE ferncos are not code here, its supposed to be a mission clamp

  • @Lilliputian63
    @Lilliputian63 Před rokem

    Why not use an integrated overflow, and get rid of all the possible points of failure with those slip joints? I second El Mono's comment regarding the 100% silicone. But looks like work sure goes quick. But is it penny wise, pound foolish?

  • @jerryanderson7343
    @jerryanderson7343 Před rokem +1

    They say a quarter of a inch maters I say wrong if you have a brain if its lower at the drain it's better because it is all water in a tub so you will always have a great drain and taking a shower you won't have water in the tub

  • @7pneuma941
    @7pneuma941 Před 2 lety +1

    I feel cheated. You didn’t show us the most important hardest part. Placing the tub drain in the trap that you can’t see underneath. What if you miss it?

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před 2 lety +3

      Not sure if you watched this fully. The drain assembly for trap was set after the tub was slid in. I’ll find the time stamp

  • @joecox9958
    @joecox9958 Před 5 měsíci

    this tub is known of problems, not good for customer, thanks for the video poster

  • @muthagoose00
    @muthagoose00 Před rokem

    def a yinzer... can hear the accent from here.

  • @jamesdorn4558
    @jamesdorn4558 Před 2 lety

    Did you really just push that rubber drain fitting onto that dirty drain pipe without even wiping it clean?

  • @johnmcentee2762
    @johnmcentee2762 Před 2 měsíci

    You had me until you used the Fernco, They are illegal above ground. Should have used the Mission Coupling you showed a little earlier. Most of your videos are excellent, but do it right.

    • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
      @BathroomRemodelingTeacher  Před 2 měsíci

      Hey John glad you know your code, stick to that. It’s not an illegal fitting & works just fine.

    • @johnmcentee2762
      @johnmcentee2762 Před 2 měsíci

      42 Years in the trade, read the code@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher

  • @RD-kz4wr
    @RD-kz4wr Před 2 měsíci

    silicone - leak free lmfao. See how that holds up in hard water after 2 years. Never seen silicone that sealed forever.

  • @user-kf7js6mr9r
    @user-kf7js6mr9r Před 4 měsíci

    Fake Plumber, who uses silicone also, Franco coupling lol

  • @user-sv4ev5qg1u
    @user-sv4ev5qg1u Před 2 lety +3

    It's seems like you don't trust your own work because of all the silicone, also you look very tense and nervous when working. But nice work.

    • @ddoperations2768
      @ddoperations2768 Před rokem +1

      What ? He did a fine job. He didn’t look nervous at all. 😂

    • @larryleach6476
      @larryleach6476 Před rokem +1

      ​@@ddoperations2768 It was very hot and he was sweating profusely. I've watched several of his videos and he is very good and thorough.

  • @drewsquickfix
    @drewsquickfix Před rokem

    you sweat alot, I bet even when its not that hot. You should change your diet and try lowering your blood pressure. Your body is trying to tell you somehting! I have the same issue. diet change can help. -Cheers

  • @jordanpayne7249
    @jordanpayne7249 Před rokem +10

    This little czcams.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.