Sweden's KSP-58 Machine Guns In Ukraine
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- Over the past few months there have been a number of sightings of a relatively rare FN MAG variant in the field in Ukraine. The KSP-58B has been seen in use with Ukrainian Armed forces since September, in this video we take a brief look at the KSP-58B's features, history and look at who transferred the guns to Ukraine.
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Hey guys thanks for watching! Sorry the video is a day late but Yuri sent me some more video over the weekend and I will always include more video if I can! Check out the accompanying blog here: armourersbench.com/2022/11/07/swedens-ksp-58-machine-guns-in-ukraine/ -Matt
The Swedish government are gonna send more for about 400 million dollars
@@Goat-vy2bi and that's a good thing?
You seams to have very interesting content, I've subscribed 😃👍
@@DEATH-THE-GOAT i dont really care if im honest.
@@Goat-vy2bi just an other black hole to fill with the taxpayers money
Belgian design, swedish make, ukrainian use. But the intended target has always been the same.
Hell yeah
KSPn den spyr ut död, målar snön omkring oss röd 👊🏻
När vi genom Ryssland drar, ryska barn blir utan far.
Yes,barrel pointed at the enemy.
Great comment. I will steal this comment from you, friend. 😊
Best pronunciation of Swedish words I’ve heard yet from an anglophone commentator - well done!
Thank you, very relieved to hear that haha. Thanks for watching!
Especially "pansarskott", that one was spot on.
@@felldin and Eskilstuna
was thinking exact same thing
the word pjäs was spot on, a very difficult word for non natives
It was Sweden that initiated the development of the FN MAG when sweden asked FN to develop a belt fed machinegun based on the BAR.
The FN Mag is basically an inverted BAR.
I asked the armorers at my local regiment last year and they said the 6,5mm barrels dissapeared 20 years ago.
Sweden even had actual beltfed BAR´s.
It's been over 20 years since I fired one of those, but watching that photage my hand could still feel the burn from absentmindedly grabbing the hot barrel during a barrel change.
Same, or self discharging rounds due to overheated barrel so I had to twitch the belt to stop so I could swap barrel, full send
grön tjänsten 83 - 84 god time :)
@@ibuprofen_ It's an open bolt gun.
@@zoidersit's possible for the round to get stuck in the barrel during malfunctions
Oh man, same, only 35 years ago…
Nice to see the KSP-58 in Ukrainian service. I fired and carried it a lot during my swedish army service back in 1993. Very reliable MG under controlled circumstances, a little less so in field conditions. We sometimes had problems with the belt missfeeding and even complete jams, after "fire & maneuver" drills made us slam the 58 into the ground a little too hard. It's also a fairly heavy gun to carry, almost 12 kg, without accessories. I remember my arms burning in pain after hauling it around for a few hours. May our old trusty 58s bring victory for Ukraine!
KSP-38 is even worse than KSP-58 but was the only machingun that could fit in the old tank Centurion at that time.
@@jorgenpersson662 Du är väl den första som gått ut och viftat med sovjetflaggan om ryssen kom! Slava Ukraini! Död åt ryssen!
@@DeusMort Jag vill absolut inte vara på nazisternas sida.
Det de ukrainska nazisterna har gjort mot den ryska befolkning är fruktansvärt.
Jag hoppas verkligen att Putin gör processen kort med dessa ukrainska fascistsvin.
@@jorgenpersson662 Den sidan klyver både hår och sanningen, "DET" har fel till 90-95% och resten är underbyggd fakta samt förvrängningar och bibel citat.
Har precis sett den, leta själv i nätvärldens arkiv och om du kommer fram till något annat än att Ukraina har större rätt att försvara sin suveränitet samt sin nations gränser än vad Ryssland har rätt att attackera dom/den så har du sett och lärt för lite.
@@jorgenpersson662 Hi there, you are one of two points: - a troll from "Olgino" !🥳 - or a poor, fooled, swedish citizen 😢
Imagine in an alternate time line the Swedes would adopt both the FN MAG and G3 in 6.5 Swedish.
They almost did, they makde a fewTrial rifle FN FAL AND G3 in 6,5x55 swedish tobad it dint happen
@@nzxt1234 We had plenty of FN MAG 6,5X55 in the Swedish Airforce when I was a youth cadet and conscript there. This is in the early to late 1980s ;-)
The original KSP58 was in 6,5*55. The B variant is in 7,62.
The thing is, the G3 didn't work as well rechambered in the 6.5×55mm iirc.
(The 6.5×55mm has a slightly larger ammount of powder as a 7.62×51mm with a smaller bullet)
@@SonsOfLorgar And it's 4mm longer too.
Some of the guns shown in this video are definitely 100% Swedish origin. At 2:02 in the video we see a picture with 6 soldiers, a blue wan and a ksp58 on the ground. On the stock of the ksp58 you can see a white marking with some small black text on it. That is the Swedish tejp used to show when the last time it had a checked thoroughly by a army gunsmiths before going into storage. I wears of quite quick so it is directly from Sweden.
Your swedish pronunciation is actually really good. Sounds like someone that is a native English speaker but can speak Swedish fluently, I'm Really impressed!
Thank you. I wish I could speak Swedish fluently! Thanks for watching.
Killing it with the pronunciation! I got to use it quite a lot during my service in the late eighties. We had 7,62 barrels for live firing and 6,5x55 for blanks.
Thank you! Glad in getting them right! Ahh that's interesting. Did bolt's have to be swapped?
@@TheArmourersBench I’m not 100% sure but I think I remember we just swapped the barrels. The 6,5x55 blanks were not just crimped brass but used wood bullets to facilitate feeding. The blank barrels had a muzzle device that made sure the wooden "bullets" got destroyed but the muzzle blast was still no fun at close range.
@@TheArmourersBench the 7.62×51 and the 6.5×55 cartridges has the same rim and base diameter as well as the same taper towards the neck and a very similiar over all length, so only the barrels was changed.
And as the army eventually ran out of 6.5mm blanks, they just got the production switched to 7.62mm hollow wood bullets and retired the 6.5mm barrels.
The same blank firing desintegrator muzzle device screws onto the flash hider threads and so didn't need redesign either, and when the G3 was adopted as the Ak4, a blank firing desintegrator muzzle device was designed for it.
The 5.56 FN weapons also got desintegrator muzzle devices.
The kpist m/45 however, used plastic bullet blanks and it's 2.5mm 'parlor ammo barrel' with a desintegrator device.
The 2.5mm barrel without the desintegrator muzzle cap was designed to use tiny rounds where the casing was the percussion cap but zeroed so that a 15cm target at 10m equated a 6ft target at 100m.
@ Its main job is to ensure enough gas pressure, so the weapon will cycle.
Btw. In this video ammoboxes are not mounted on the weapon. Why is that? Is there no mount for them?
@@XtreeM_FaiL Not for the boxes but there was a cloth pouch for a 50 round belt segment that attached to the side.
Sweden was THE first adopter of the FN-MAG. Sweden tried to make their own machine gun using a upside down Browning BAR but never really got it to work. So they approached FN with their idea and FNs engineers and technicians got the idea to work.
By mating it with the feed system and steel belt of the MG42/MG1
we have been first with alot of things, first with barret m82 for example, we also was first with the pansarskott m86 and carl gustaf m48 recoilless rifle (at4 and cg 84mm recoilless rifle) as it was created in sweden.
First along with Britain.
@@zoiders u sure about that? Didnt britain get it 1961? Sweden got it 1958
Fight smarter, not harder doctrine 🤔🪖
I was also a Ksp shooter in the swedish army, it was a hell of a gun 👍
that wooden stock is pretty good looking
They looks great don't they
They always do
Didn't they switch to plastic or polymer for the same reasons Russia did with the new AKs? Because it's easier to decontaminate?
Though it could just be cheaper to make the stocks out of polymer nowadays...
But man nothing beats wood stocks...
Even like custom ones on m16s/(ar15 clones) and so many other firearms like mp5s and even putting them on newer shotguns just to have that cool look..
It's especially cool on newer weapons when it gives that retro future look...
@@JaykPuten Sweden did switch to a modernized version with plastic stock and picatinny rail (Ksp 58F). It is significantly lighter. But many Ksp 58B with wooden stocks and iron sights remain in service, and in storage.
@@scepticalwalker3984 thanks for the info, of course pic rails would be added, I don't know why I didn't even think about that...
Carried one for a couple of years a long time ago. Use the sling correctly then firing from the hip is easy enough and stable. More than able to sweep an area with in urban combat.
Sling over the head horizontal. Right arm goes through around and under, locked when the hand grips the pistol grip. Getting the sling the right length is key. Use a short belt of ammo.
Bit like how the Bren was carried.
I can not take any glory myself because I have done nothing but i am proud as a swedish man to know that my nation helped Ukraine with those stuffs. Gretings from Sweden.
Aha. så du betalar inte skatt?
@@konstapeln2125 Hahaha!
excellent pronunciation of Eskilstuna!
Haha thank you!!
Never thought I would hear that sound again.... great to see these weapons coming to good use
Thank you Sweden for helping Ukraine! Much respect and admiration from 🇺🇸
Finally our KSP58:s get to shoot at the great enemy 🥳✊🏻
Would have been better if Putin hadn't forced that to happen though, the mad bastard.
@@SonsOfLorgar of course
Nice to see that machine gun.
I learned to use that gun during my military service 1980-1981.
uesed in 89-90 .)
I used the KSP 58 in my time in the Swedish army.
The user is using it correctly with intermittent bursts.
Though I cant se he used the second barrel, Thats used to be quick shift. To let the the hot barrel cool down. That ways, you can have continued fire for a very long time.
Did you use the "En stor stark" method?
@@azkrouzreimertz9784 😂 No, But remember that when being in the wood or mountains for week on end. Not seeing a civilian life. Id sure felt could have one. 😂
Used it in Estonia myself too. Nice gun but my heart belongs to MG3 still.
@@AK-qy5iw Its a bit heavy for offensive work. But a defensive beast. A loader/spotter, every 3-5 round being fosfor for help aiming. It can keep going for days
@@AK-qy5iw that's a fair exchange 😂
Ah, the proud old Ksp 58... everybody loves it, except the guy who carries it :P
My cousins son carried one during his service and he hated it immensely... until he was firing it, and then he loved it... but went back to hating it when he had to carry it back to base again :P
and the ones cleaning it, especially after using the red wooden training rounds (I was told).
Neat "updated" video as always.
absolutely fantastic, always love seeing this
Heja Sverige and Slava Ukraini! Greetings from Sweden
If you add a tracer round every three rounds it is easier to see where you hit. (probably easier to be spotted as well though)
Another weapon you could cover is the MATADOR/RGW-90 anti armour weapon.
Oh absolutely, I've a folder full of sightings of it in the field that I've been collecting. It's just being able to get to everything I want to cover!!
KSP58 in 6,5mm Swe was a dream to shoot 👍🏻
KSP aka kulspruta is translated to bullet sprayer. we have some weird names for our stuff but it works :)
My hometown is Eskilstuna🇸🇪🌲🤓
You couldnt have pronunced it better
Thank you for letting me know, appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
Funny thing here is, the ksp58s in the videos uses dissintegrating links for the ammo, as of we never had that in sweden for the ksp58. we have a metalllink contating 50 rounds, that can be fitted to one another.
Was wondering this Andreas, thanks!
Most likely the Ksp 58's were just supplied without the ammo. They're getting plenty of ammo from other sources.
@@Oddball_E8 but then you have to modify them, cus you cant just use what you feel like.
I bet dissintegrating links come from American aid. Original reloadable Swedish or Danish links are included but they are pretty labor intensive to reload without reloading tool. Because Americans supply huge amounts of small arms ammo and they use preloaded dissintegrating links i think nobody bothers to reload original belts. There is also no modification needed to change from one to another. Both feed the same.
@@villon89 Sure, but there's already the Ksp 58 C2, which is set up to use disintegrating belts, so it's not a big deal and they might actually have gotten those. They look pretty much identical to the B.
It's that classic FN MG. Very effective and reliable.
Yes, directly from 50's, Very efficient!!!🤣
Hope they come in good use! Greetings from Sweden!
Scar 556 next to a swedish fn with a wooden stock.... Talk about a killer load out
Beautiful woodwork, I think I saw that buttstock on sale at IKEA. 😁
Wish my local store stocked them.
Nice video man!
Thank you, thanks for watching!
Hopefully Sweden is sending Archer artillery system soon
I was a beast with that thing , we had one in every PBV302 as a mech inf unit , 200 rounds then change the barrel it just hissed when you throw it in the snow.
We had 4 barrels 2-6.5 and 2-7.62 mm for each KSP , 2 boxes and the 2 cassettes with 50 rounds each , should be in every big wooden box.
Love hearing about how they are used. Thanks.
Remember having one jury rigged on the roof of our all terrain vehicles on a training exercise where would act as an invading force from the beach simulated foreign BMP’s. I was issued a lot of blanks and happily used them all. Man that gun was filthy after that and I wasn’t equally thrilled when I have to clean it out in the field later that evening.
A side note, we where allowed to dress up in other non Swedish military equipment as we where the “baddies” and even fix up our rides a bit. We used masking tape and taped U137 and a Soviet Hammer and Sickle (a Soviet Uboat had mysteriously ran aground in Swedish military waters just recently). Well … our officers was that thrilled as we supposed to be neutral and all so we had to remove that! Funny sh1t anyways!
Instruction was two fire in 10-15 round bursts , boxes could 200 rounds , cassettes with 50 rounds was used in dismounted combat advancing into object , three ksp58 and three CG 84mm AT weapon in each platoon.
@@HiznogoodThe story about using tape and "change" identity made me think of the Swedish movie 'Repmånad'. ("Rep month" a humorous, very "Swedish" classic movie from 1979.) Repetition for middle aged conscripts in peacetime. The scene is that it's an exercise, and they are defending the country, Sweden.
A "The bridge is blown up" sign is put up on a small bridge, when "our" guys came in a truck. They decide to neglect the sign, but are stopped by a guard. A discussion about how the bridge could be "blown up" when it obviously was there occurred, the guard argued that they couldn't tear down everything in civilian areas, just because it was "make believe" hit in the exercise. Our friends turn around and drive away. The guy who always thinks outside the box gets an idea.
After a while you can watch the truck driving towards the bridge again. Now with the word "HELIKOPTER" written on the side.
If you can play 'make believe", so can we!
Lasse Åberg, the writer of the movie, also acting, is a genius in his genre. (This is one of a series of films, but the following ones have another main character, with the same personality, probably based on how Lasse Åberg in some situations sees himself (I don't think he IS like that!), shy and awkward, still living with his mom, and extremely shy with women. This is the foundation of the humor in the movies, and other characters also pushed a little, being on the edge of parody, but so well balanced it rarely falls into that trap.
This was TOTALLY out of context, but I couldn't get the sight of the truck with "HELIKOPTER" written on it out of my head!
I believe every Swedish person reading this is smiling, absolutely not about my writing here, but thinking about the movie!
A world class gpmg, do good work with them!👍
Looks very similar to what I was trained on in the 1980s, Known as a LMG 7.62.. It has a nice punch as support weapon .
It’s all just different variations of the FN MAG.
This machine gun is very similar to the machine gun I had when I served in the Dutch army! That was an FN MAG machine gun, automatic, air-cooled, light machine gun. Caliber: 7.62×51mm.
Functionally identical!
God bless the gpmg the finest support weapon in use
You mention Sweden was an early adopter of the FN MAG. Actually, we were the first adopter, and we were the ones who asked FN to design this. We had the BAR, the Browning Automatic Rifle. But that one used mags, it wasn't belt fed. We wanted a belt fed BAR. So FN, who had the European rights for Browning designs, was asked to make a belt fed BAR for us, which they did - the KSP 58! Then FN figured that hey, this gun actually seems nice, maybe we could sell this to other customers. And the rest is history, as they say.
That's a story for another video for sure. Thanks for watching.
Sweden have also sent thousands of body armor and helmets and will be sending the Ukrainians winter uniforms. cold weather clothing.
ooooh-i used the 58 when i did my militarytraining..this brings backs memories,steelsight at 700 yard on half-figures, no problem,very good weapon whit barrels that can be changed in a copule of secounds..so not to overheat the barrel- just dont drop the hot one in snow😅
It would be interesting to get their comparative judgements on the various MAG58s variants, MG3s variants, and the Russian MGs.
It really would! Hopefully something we can do.
Great gun…easy to use and it’s possible to chose your own fire rate with a “volume button” on the gas system under the barrel(7.62x51 NATO)👍🏻👍🏻😊
Nice video
😁 they even got my boy out there damn, really looking in the corner of the armoury shii, I hope they find a way to mount a sight could really do with one
Seems to be an effective SAW, the cyclic-rate, It's not too fast or too slow, a manageable weapon, thanks for posting. 👍
It's up there on par with the PKM the worlds best GPMGs atm.
Really too heavy for the SAW role, that's why the Minimi/M249 exists.
The word " Kulspruta" Is maybe a easy way to say "bullet spray" A Gun that is spraying bullets (fast).
I think that these KSP-58B maybe from the old scrapped S-tank They did have 2 or 3 mounted inside that was able to demount and fit whit the wooden stock.
Two coaxial plus one on the commanders manually remote controlled hatch mount, so one Ksp58 for each crewman! 🤣
Bullet-sprayer more like
For some reason I think that gun is enchanting.
hey i did watch video with M249 saw or at least it seems to looks like one but quality was not great do you have any info about it use?
Yes, they're definitely in use and largely in the hands of Ukrainian Special Operations units. I'll have a video on them and the other 5.56×45mm in use hopefully soon! Thanks for watching.
Very Good - Thanks ! ! !
🙂😎👍
Great machinegun.. carried it for 8 years.
2:18 That one looks like it still has the yellow instruction text sticker on how to load it on the butt stock. Don't think the Balitcs put on their own text, and keeping the Swedish text on seems unlikely.
That's a good point, difficult to know. Perhaps service people from the Baltic will let us know.
In the clip while loading he lets the bolt forward, anyone know if the bolt needs to be to the rear or the KSP-58 is upgraded with a spring loaded roller (like an M240) or flexible roller guide rail?
Afaik, the bolt needs to be retracted on the Ksp58 as it's the first FN MAGs that were ever adopted however, the bolt handle is non reciprocating and not spring loaded, so what he does is that he retracts the bolt and then pushes the handle to it's spring latch retained forward position, the bolt stays retracted.
The first few dozen of the ksp58s were made in Liege, the rest was licence built in Eskilstuna, freeing up FNs factories to fulfil their national obligations to the Belgian army.
Nice video and good pronunciation :D
Thank you, great to hear I got them close haha. Thanks for watching.
Wonder if we geting new machineguns
to replace them? As we replaced RBS15?
KSP-58 literally means "Bulletsprayer 58."
I mean. It does paint an image doesn't it.
How interchangeable are the components with other FN-MAG variants? For example, if your KSP-58 needs a barrel change, and all you have are M240 barrels (or vice-versa), will they work?
Great question, I'm not sure how close the Swedish factory stuck to the original TDP for the MAG I'm afraid. I'd be surprised if there wasn't interchangeability.
@@TheArmourersBench Hi, guy currently serving in the Swedish armed forces and gun nut here, they are identical to the original TDP, the first batches of KSP 58 that the army got in the beginning were actually produced by FN while we got our production line up and running and have parts interchangeability with the originals as well with other FN MAG's. the only thing that wont be interchangeable between a lot of the MAG variants are the individual parts of the gas regulators, since for example the KSP 58 have a 8 setting one and the original M240 only had one so on....
But what to be on the lookout for are the feed trays, as you can see in some of the clips the KSP 58 uses (to this day) Semi- disintegrating belts (DM 1 Belts) and requires a new feed tray to be able to reliably use M13 disintegrating belts. as you can see at 3:29 the feed tray is black, which means that is a upgraded one since no original KSP 58 feed tray are black, they are all silver. feel free to contact me if you have any more questions about Swedish equipment.
Thanks so much for the clarification, great insights. Very much appreciated.
@@erinil0905 In homeguard exercises, my former unit was occationally issued NATO factory belted m13 linked ammo in 250rnd cardboard boxes left over after multi-national exercises, and as far as I could see, our Ksp58Bs ate those up just as reliably as they ate up the well used 49+1 round modular DM1 belts...
@@SonsOfLorgar yeah it works, but there is an greater risk that the empty M13 links get stuck, I've used M13 links and they do work, I'm not saying that they don't. But the feed trays have different geometries for a reason and that is increased reliability.
These machine guns use the M13 link and the swedish KSP58/B uses a belt with 49 cartridges, (i think its equivalent to DM1). I don’t think the Swedish Armed Forces would modify them to feed M13 link before shipping them, so that points towards a Baltic state.
You can use both types of links and it would still operate.
I love seeing our guns fighting the good fight
Can you do a video on the polish grom in Ukraine
Pansarskott = Armour round
Kulspruta / KulSprutePistol / KSP = Bullet sprayer (Machine gun)
Absolutely nailed the Swedish pronunciations, good job!
Thank you!!
i loved using this ksp.
This is not KSP 58 in the first movie, the band is linked of, Swedish LMPG band is not linked off after firing..and thats it...
The 58 can fire both
@@scepticalwalker3984 source on that???
Barrel is replaceable. Two are brought to mitigate overheating.
Good someone use this old machinery
Ksp-36 is the real thing. Watercooled, can be fired all day long. Ksp-58 has to switch barrel after 250 rounds due to the risk of overheating, if I remember correctly. The gun usually came with to barrels so that you can switch back and forth
Good luck lugging a water cooled gun around.
I’ve shot about 4 billion shots with that. Fun gun to shot. Whatch out for an overheated barrel.
Surprised to not see any slings on those ksp58's. I would never use one without it. Especially when firing from the hip lol, because you're supposed to use the carry handle to push down while firing, else you won't hit anything!
Really good video/chanel & (likable) voice 2.
And U'r swedish is ok......
-Keep ot up!
Ahh thanks Frank! Appreciate the feedback, thanks for watching.
Shot a lot with the Kulspruta 58!
Greetings from Sweden.
What an interesting sound it makes. I only ever heard it mentioned but never seen or heard it. Quite interesting to see it now on the battlefields in Ukraine. Hope it will serve the UAF well!
Is there no ammobox mount on that MG?
This is accurate machinegun. I shot one and hit targets up to 400 meters, though i dont have any special training. Also from my experience i can tell that you need to stick velcro fully around your sleeves when shooting, because those hot cases will burn your skin really bad if they fly inside.
To convert the FN MAG/M240 into the 277 caliber, do you just need to change the barrel?
Given the case diameter is the same as 7.62×51 it probably will be. Might be some tweaks to the gas system needed.
Spent ten years in the army shooting this thing. Nice to see the good ol' KSP finally put to its designed use of reducing Ivan population.
Love all theses
at 4:40 can anyone tell me what the red and transparent lenses are for on the soldiers helmet? I have seen it on helmets of the Netherlands army as well sometimes
Laser recivers to know if you have been hit during traning
those Swedish KSP 58 i shot with did not split up the feeding belt look at 3:55
Yes, interesting isn't it, someone with personal experience might be able to enlighten on that.
They can fire both types of belt
I had so much fun with that gun in army
KSP-58: Yes, point me toward the Russian invaders, let me fulfill my purpose.
It's weird to see a KSP-58 shooting with disintegrating links. Looks so comfortable😅
Wonderful weapon. I was assign to one in the military
as estonian i have used, cleaned and maintained the ksp-58 its a good mg. but i would prefer mg3, nothing can beat the germans in their own "game"
incredibly similar to the Canadian C6 GPMG
A brand-new!!! KSP!!! never used!!! directly from 50th, I mean 1950's))), that does bring sertaine level of comfort in the tranches!!!
Wow. Finally someone who can pronounce the language.
Also Swedish defence partnered with Finland is looking to replace all it's machine guns and sniper rifles and the AK5. And have the process started by atleast 2024
Yes, certainly something I'm tracking. Big project.
@Deadpoppin What makes you belive that?
Since the Ukrainian Military uses the FN MAG in both M240 & KSP-58 versions can the barrels of M240 fit in the KSP-58 Swedish version of M240B or not? Another thing that the Ukrainians can do is ask FN to see if they can make a 7.62x54R FN MAG
The barrels can be used yes, some differences with the components of the gas system according to a servicing Swedish soldier. NATO would prefer to see Ukraine move towards using NATO standard calibres so they'll probably leave the 54R for the large numbers of PKs and PKMs they have.
@@TheArmourersBench Thanks for the Information if Ukraine does adapt NATO 5.56 & 7.62x51 cartridges we would have seen a UK SAS SBS French GIGN German KSK and US Delta Force Navy Seals Marine Recon special Forces soldier use a Malyuk in 5.56x45 with the donor rifle being a Polish or Bulgarian 5.56x45mm AK.
@@TheArmourersBench For 7.62x54R conversion it would require to many parts to be changed. For an example 54R is rimmed, so new bolt and feedtray and so on it would be simpler to buy either PKM/PKPs or to just buy more 7.62x51.
Sorry, sorry I thought I'd read 7.62×51! You're quite right Falttrollet.
Thanks again, brilliant video. We had them as the MAG58 for a number of years until the M240 came into service. I could hear the cheers when they took the 58 off the gunners as they do have a bit of weight in them.
The American 240B is a FN MAG 58. It also weighs more than the MAG 58. Same gun.
Sweden wanted to get rid of it's older MAGs, sent it to Ukraine as some sort of aid, genius geopolitics!
Via the Baltics which makes it even more vicious. All in the larger goal to bludgeon the russians...
I believe they came from the baltics. These weapons are still functionning adequately. You can shoot off a cigarette 500 m away and multiple moving targets is no prob. Hopefully we will send combat jets soon...
@@incognito2023 to be used by whom? Surely not Ukraine.
I think we sent a lot of helmets we considered to be obsolete, and now we will be compensated for that by EU. It did not feel great to hear that...
These were most likely from the baltic states. A friend of mine, who unfortunately fell in battle in april, had been equipped with the swedish kulsprutepistol m/45 (Swedish-K) with estonian markings on the case and wooden grip.
I have seen photos of a couple of those, very interesting to see those pop up. Sorry to hear about your friend.
They aren't standard KSP58B's as we don't use disintegrating link belt.. the feedtray needs to be modified/changed.. Sweden was also the first user , we tried to make a belt fed machinegun but had issues so Sweden asked FN for "help"..
The interesting m/37!
The 58 can fire both, although it is more reliable with the right tray
Hey! "En stor stark" Bursts please.
Fired GPMG in brief Army stint , also remember getting on to them as a cadet when I was younger , scariest thing I saw was a GPMG (L7A2) Go in a “runaway state” being open bolt if it gets hot enough it just keeps firing till ammunition is depleted 😂😂 also the whole having to cock the weapon to engage the safety always made me snigger same with the Minimi
Scary! Top tip I was told by a friend for stopping a runaway gun is twist the bet to induce stoppage! Thanks for watching.
@@TheArmourersBench hahaha not for sergeants on range jumped on gun with foot with body weight to stop it moving and let it fire 😂😂
I hate to say this but none of what you just said is how a L7 works. A run away gun comes from a worn sear. Not over heating. Cook-offs effect closed bolt weapons, not open bolt guns. The GPMG has a simple cross bolt safety that blocks the trigger. Being cocked makes no difference to the safety being applied, you can remove the trigger group from the gun and still apply the safety catch. All the sear on the GPMG does is drop the bolt and fire the weapon. The safety needs to be off to clear the weapon but nothing stops its application with the bolt forwards. If the working parts are forwards its safe already - short of a primer that fails to fire. Stop thinking "rifle".
@@zoiders fair enough misinformed but I knew it was to do with overheating was scary none the less and yeah I think form a rifle mindset was like Chinese when Learning it hahaha , as for safety I meant when unloading as it can fire off rounds that’s all
@@TheArmourersBench if you twist the belt sufficiently the disintegrating link belt will separate. It runs out of rounds.
Nice to see Swedish weapons making a difference 👍
Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦