Every Time Glasses Appear in Star Trek
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- We like to think of Star Trek as this utopian future where all our everyday physical problems have been solved. But it would seem that glasses are still relevant even in the 23rd century and beyond.
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It's fun to think that transporter guy in the pilot was allergic to Retinax too :)
Or maybe it was part of his religion. :-D
Scotty (Played by Simon Pegg)? I like the curious way Lt.Saavik gazed up at Adm. Kirk when he puts them on to read. I guess she never had any professors at Starfleet who needed them.
@@virginiaconnor8350 No we're talking about Star Trek.
Though whats funny is the next time you see him, he has taken the glasses off.
I would really like to see a video on "Fashion" in Star Trek - the civilian attire seen throughout the shows. I could imagine glasses are - for some people - simply a nice accessory as well.
You could do a 20 minute video alone on Jake and his bowling alley carpet sweaters
Strong Amazon I always thought he was just wearing a bus seat cover....
Um Tashar Yar's sister's blue catsuit..
Yes, so many questiona... interesting fashion choices in Trek!
Yeah, I suppose that's possible.
There are a handful of people in the world that use glasses for 'fashion' reasons even though they have perfect eyesight.
Kinda annoying to those that actually need glasses to see properly, but, you know. Whatever. XD
By sheer coincidence a scene in VOY where Tom and B'Elanna are wearing 3-D glasses in a retro movie theater was on TV as I was watching this video.
whose would be in holo-suite props or artifacts...fully functional of course...still a good observation
A little shock you didn't at least give an honorable mention to Larforge's Visor...I know they are not glasses in the traditional sense, but they were a type of corrective eyewear that Laforge used for much his life instead ocular implants.
Came for this! Show some love for La Forge 👓
i disagree. Jordi's visor was not a "corrective eyewear", it was an outright replacement for his eyes, completely writing them out of the picture. that's what the connectors on his temples are - connections directly into his visual cortex. Meaning the whole thing would work even if you plucked Jordi's eyes out completely.
Meaning it's not a corrective eyewear, but a full-on vision prostesis. Which, in my opinion, is a completely different cathegory, which justifies it not being mentioned here.
@MidnightSt
Basically, to elaborate even more on your comment, he could have worn the visor on the top of his head or on his chest if he had wanted to, as long as it would have been connected to the inlets embedded in his temples.
@@subraxas well... i get your point, and kinda agree, but at the same time... that would change the origin point of his (percieved) vision, which, I bet, would be severl times more confusing to the brain than suddenly seeing most of the electromagnetic spectrum as opposed to just the visible light part.
so i think the position of the visor on his body was more important than the frequency range it captured.
yeah, brain is weird.
@@subraxas : He could have, yes.
Someone brought up pockets on Twitter the other day and how they've been eliminated in Star Trek's future. It does make sense. Doors open with voice commands, so no keys. Money isn't a thing so no wallets. Did see a good comment asking what would you do if you found an interesting space rock and wanted to bring it back with you... which is how at least 10% of bad things happen in Star Trek. Fun thing to think about though.
We can't have backpacks because those are heavy duty pockets...
BASKETS
That or find an alien whose head tendrils you can put stuff in.
"Away team to enter-prise! Away team to enterprise. I need a pen to sign the native's peace contract, could you beam one down?"
One problem with that
They do still have pockets
We see people pull stuff out of pockets fairly regularly in TNG, DS9, and VOY.
And I don't just mean from the speciality work uniforms or Crusher's lab coat.
The thing is, for most work you aren't supposed to use pockets. You're supposed to return things to their carrying case when you aren't using them. So any time you see someone carrying a repair kit instead of using pockets, that just means they're following proper procedures.
Same thing with phasers and tricorders, you don't store weapons and equipment like that in regular pockets.
Or rather, you shouldn't. You use a holster or clip.
@@ummdustry5718 The aliens didn't provide a pen? That means war!
This reminds me of Battlestar Galactica: The costumes didn't have pockets but in one scene, Adama has to put something into his pocket. So he had pockets custom-made for his costume. Apparently, he brag about them to the rest of the cast
I just now noticed Odo putting on the safety glasses even though he technically doesn't have eyes.
Safety regulations are safety regulations.
Funny that Odo didn't object to wearing those protective glasses... it is not like he needs to protect his eyes... he is fluid.
me: it's 4am. I should be sleeping.
also me: I need to know everything about glasses in Star Trek!
At least you have your priorities straight. :-)
SPOCK: Excuse me, Admiral. But weren't those a birthday gift from Dr. McCoy?
KIRK : And they will be again, that's the beauty of it.
I'd like to see a video on how multilingualism, codeswitching, and classroom-based second language acquisition are portrayed as fairly common within the Federation, despite Starfleet's mostly habitual reliance on universal translator technology. (Instances where characters are shown switching between languages or attempting to learn a new language even when the translators are not broken or deemed inadequate for communicative purposes are especially interesting!)
It's quite plausible that some people do it for the intellectual stimulation, on top of having a backup for instances where the technology is on the fritz (like being able to properly read paper maps in case you can't get GPS signal out in the boonies or your phone breaks).
Some people just prefer to wear glasses over other solutions.
As someone who _has_ to wear glasses for correction purposes; and as someone who has a depressingly high probability of losing my vision all-together, I'd much prefer a permanent solution, whether it be Retinax, lab-grown replacements, or surgery!
In RL, I'm torn about glasses being worn for cosmetic/fashion purposes. On the one hand, that's like people using crutches for fashion! On the other hand, it makes those of us who have to wear the dang things stick out a little less than we would otherwise.
Better than contacts. Could see people not wanting to lose time in surgery delaying and wearing glasses instead.
@@im.empimp there's a process for removing "keyed genetic material"
From tissues and them being just cartalage then adding stem cells from the patent
It was done with rats but this could be used to give people pig hearts (this is a thing? Idk I heard of it and it's around the same size) that are constructed of the donors genetics
I'm hopeful with how this relates to ocular surgeries
Im myopic because I wasn't good at catch and mabie other reasons
3 baseballs to each eye and a eggbal in the left one
Humans are capible of echolocation- check it out there are even schools
@@VincentGonzalezVeg I'm definitely hopeful that there will be something soon. I've reached a point where I'm so myopic that there's a chance -at any moment- that one of my retinas will detach.
The optometrist told me this and that when it happens, how long from when it detaches to when they do the surgery determines which of 3 surgeries they do. I made the mistake of asking about the surgeries, and without remembering the details of the actual procedure, only the first 2 types stand a chance of restoring vision to pre-detachment standards. The 3rd one just prevents the vision from getting any worse than it is when the surgery is started (he said this is the only option if the surgery happens more than 48 hours after detachment, but many people don't even have that long, so time is of the essence).
If I have to have surgery on my eyeballs, I really, really, really want _better_ vision than I have now. So, fingers crossed that a better alternative arrives soon, even if that means I get eyeballs grown on a r@t's @ss -if they're better than what I've got now, I'll be happy!
I was actually aware of human's echo-locating. It's downright amazing! This guy takes it to a whole new level! - czcams.com/video/Gg2DgLwmsmU/video.html
I always wanted those Barclay glasses with the little flip up mesh guard
Barclay had style.
@@CardboardSliver Yeah he did! Does anyone know where to get them?
Don't discount that some glasses might be augmented reality display devices. That could come in super handy for some things.
I believe this was the main concept for the glasses worn by the Federation president in ST 6. Both times it was when he was viewing the communication with Chancellor Azetbur & during the Trial of Kirk and McCoy.
@@danielseelye6005 I'm just picturing him getting bored during official meetings and putting on his glasses. To outsiders in the room speaking with him, he's just dramatically wearing his glasses. To him, he's watching little AR Tribbles dance on the dignitary's head.
@@VegetaLF7 Or watching porn, it's usually porn.
Corrective lenses would certainly be the easiest thing to eliminate, and it makes sense that there may be circumstances like Kirk's that make them occasionally necessary. Some people might also still have objections to medical procedures to fix the eyes, too. Protective lenses, however, I can see even more never going away, both sunglasses and other forms, since you'd always need some apparatus to prevent UV or physical impact damage.
Always love it when these types of videos come out.
Actually while I'm here, a friend of mine asked me which _Enterprise_ in Star Trek has destroyed the most ships not including shuttle-sized craft or alternate timeline.
That got me thinking, what kind of kill count do we see among the various hero ships? Because I know of quite a few cases myself, but I've never done an in-depth study into them.
Nor has anyone else online from what I can tell.
My money is on the NX-01 and Enterprise D in that area. In general though I'd give to the Defiant. Not going to count DS9 as the Federation turned that thing into a fortress.
@@Predator42ID Voyager also destroyed quite a lot of ships though. Would be interesting to see a count in that area.
I'd like to see a comparison of all the worlds in the STU, see who the worst offender is. I bet the vulcans are the most genocidal, manipulating (behind the scenes) the other races into fighting one another. They say it's always the quiet ones.
@@Jaeih Voyager destroyed more shuttles than any other franchise.
@@tonygarratt5832 You might find it was the Federation all along.
I think deleted scenes are basically canon if they don't contradict another scene.
Exactly. A lot are just cut for time/flow, not because they’re inherently a problem with the story.
Like I choose to believe that the scene with Picard’s new first officer in Nemesis is canon because it means I can believe that Hayes’s great great great great… grandson is in Starfleet
I think they are more canon than The Animated Series and yet was mentioned in video.
Deleted scenes are non-canon unless they show up in a re-release that includes them.
The Animated Series has had a shaky canonicity history. Treated as canon initially, then non-canon because Roddenberry didn't like it very much. Then apparently canon again more recently.
Worth noting that Roddenberry didn't care much for Star Trek V or Star Trek VI for some odd reason and those were still canon, so odds are TAS was non-canon because of anti-cartoon bias.
@@starshade7826 Actually it wasn't that Roddenberry didn't like them it was the face he was ill during V(Harve Bennet took over most of the movie) and dying during VI. He died 6 weeks before VI was released.
For some reason this reminded me of when a few friends of mine were doing their star trek podcast, the notes for the episode on Memory Alpha makes note that this was the only appearance in an episode of a free standing ladder and he just lost it about Trekkies obsession with stupid details
You can trace Trekkies obsession with stupid details to a 1990s publication titled "The Complete Nitpicker's Guide to Star Trek" which goes out of its way to tongue-in-cheekly point out all the times the show contradicts itself.
And occasionally all the times it contradicts physics.
Truthfully, reading that book just made me want to Plan My Universe Thoroughly before writing anything lest I pointlessly retcon things later. lol
I believe some folks are going to say hey its the future your not going to have glasses or paper any longer. I see that as being short sighted no pun intended. Medical exceptions and use for casual wear and for safety would be easier to adapt. Hell whats to say the next version of Star Trek or some other futuristic show doesn't have someone wearing a hardlight or hologram that would just project the protective clothing over you. Same thing with paper true its nice to have a ipad like device and you can pull up or save any information but that is kinda useless when you dont have power to run them not to mention how long saved information can be kept before it might degrade. Just reminds me in the Dune universe where they routinely saved information on Ridulian Crystal paper and Shigawire
Probably doesn't occur enough to be worth more than just a quick mention, but one thing that always stood out to me about the TNG episode "The First Duty" is how the doors on the Starfleet Academy cadet quarters are regular swing doors with doorknobs.
Love the shot of Odo putting on the safety glasses, he probably didn't really need them (his com badge seems to be part of him for instance, as when changing outfit to go to cardassia later in Season 7 it switches from a Bajoran one to a Starfleet one along with his uniform changing to civilian clothes)
The Librarian was in the cut of Insurrection that was shown at the UK premier of the film, there was a backlash and it was cut however we kept the more graphic torture scene and the Admirals death being bloodier.
@EC Henry how about documenting all the times non-automatically opening, very much 20th century doors appear in Trek? That would be a fun one.
lol. Some of the automatic doors seem almost sentient in how well they predict whether someone actually intends to walk through them or not.
I remember a scene where someone came through a door, stood in close proximity to it, as it shut behind them.
They then took a step backwards.
The door did nothing.
Turned around.
Still nothing.
Moved away.
Nothing.
Then when they go to leave it opens perfectly timed for them to not have to stop whatsoever.
That's some seriously powerful predictive AI for a door opening mechanism... XD
I've often wondered how the doors appear to have artificial intelligence when opening, especially from the inside. Sometimes characters will move toward the door to leave, but around at the last second to share more dialogue. The door doesn't open until they turn to leave again. I've seen this happen more than once, but I don't recall the episodes in which they occurred. If I had to guess, I'd say first two seasons of TNG.
one blink for open...two blinks for close...have an eye twitch? then it gets interesting
tarquinnff3 I’m sure they have more advanced censors than supermarket sliding doors , the sliding doors on Star Trek where pretty common in the 1970s , hell they may even been around in 1960s in supermarkets
By the 23rd century you may be right , the Doors use AI bulky it just the sensors
The doors have an algorithm that knows that the Captain will say "dismissed" and then pause before saying the officer's first name to say a few extra, non-captain words before opening.
Ex: "You don't deserve to wear that uniform! Dismissed..." "...Wesley be careful out there."
I have always wondered why we don't see more robots/andriods in Star Trek, with a handful of exceptions, Data is the only one.
Where as Star Wars and even the modern world make them seem really common place.
True! From the way it is portrayed, it seems that somehow robots and fitting artificial intelligence are somehow really hard to create in the Star Trek Universe. its relatively rarely done, even outside of Starfleet.
But it kind of fits a central theme in Star Trek: Technology is always used to augment human (or alien) abilities, but very rarely to replace them. Everytime we see any species or even starfleet itself attempting to build a true AI or robot which could replace humans, it pretty much always goes badly. Especially in TOS, there is this sense of some intangible "human" quality which a machine inherently cannot have.
I could imagine it is simply a kind of technology (like genetic augmentation) that is universally just too dangerous/faulty to ever see widespread use.
Where do yo get androids in the modern world, the military's are still trying to create and weaponize AI
@@Predator42ID "Android" may have been the wrong word, but look at what Boston Dynamics is doing and tell me why we don't see that in Star Trek.
@@mitwhitgaming7722 point taken
@@mitwhitgaming7722 Maybe by the 23rd century, they're so life-like, they're indistinguishable from humanoids? Lots of Trek scenes have non-speaking back-up characters.
Why would a changeling need glasses?
He's the constable, he leads by example.
Protocol. Also cleanup is easier if you can simply remove eyewear
DS9 logic.
He does it to fit in.
Right? In theory his eyes are just for show and any projectile wouldn't really do anything? So why protective eyewear?
Glasses For the Win!
If you looking into the neat minutia of Star Trek, I've found something interesting:
When I was researching for a possible Star Trek FanFic, and trying to understand the "character" of the Romulans / Vulcanoids, I noticed that the Vulcan D'kyr type cruiser and the Romulan D'deridex class
Warbird have a surprisingly similar shape. Both a have a hollow overall body with the slim central body connected to it's wide 'bird wings'/Warp Ring that gives it's Negative space/hollow center, and main bulk of the vessel is concentrated in the Front and back sections.
I like how this could be some sort of shared Vulcanoid mentality concerning ship building or a form of Engineering theory that likely dates before the Vulcans and Romulans separated and reformed into different civilizations / species. I also have a strange hypothesis based on this over-analysis that Vulcans/Romulans prefer to make large arches concerning large buildings to enhance their presence and a weird "paper tiger" complex in Vulcanoids (i.e Romulan paranoia / superiority complexes) when it comes to making their quasi-"Dreadnoughts".
A small gem of insight (hopefully) into the weird and hyperactive mentality of Vulcans and Romulans.
Stabber OpSig just Vulcan , not Vulcaniod
Manual transmissions seem to have survived to the 24th century. In the episode Peak Performance, Riker and crew on the U.S.S. Hathaway discusses if they can reinstate the ship’s warp drive, albeit for a few seconds. Laforge likened the ship stalling to a vehicle that still uses a clutch, nice to see some people in the future still know how to drive stick.
I've honestly always thought car culture really would survive kind of like jazz or sailing on Earth, probably with particular emphasis on periods most unlike their computer-driven world, ie 'the classics' that are still mechanical and most-wrenchable by hobbyists.
OllamhDrab The Voyager episodes “the 47s” Chakotay mentions Hovercars so cars for exist , flying one like from Futurama. Also in The Season 7 finale “all good things” from TNG you can see a flying car pull up
Outside the university Old data is in.
@@DaraGaming42 Oh, yeah, I was talking about old-school ground transport surviving at least as a hobby. With all the repulsor tech seemingly not using much energy to speak of at all, I'd expect the modern versions to mostly just float. (And it was one thing I liked about the Abrams Star Trek film was kind of opening with the scene on the highway with the Corvette (or likely replica of one,) ...when I had a go at various Star Trek writing, I always liked to use the *roads* as kind of iconic scenes of Earth, and I figure antique designs would be popular for hobbyists as... traditional culture. :)
Love your eagle eye approach.
Just a thought, what if you analysed the way gravity is portrayed in Trek? Something we don't often think of, but is very much a key technology. Like how is it addressed with other alien species, what happens when it goes offline, and other ways gravity is generated like with centrifugal sections of a ship like with Babylon 5.
"More antiquated solution."
1:30 librarians tells the first officer to be quite.
I think advanced eye surgery has almost completely eliminated the need for glasses in Star Trek, but some people wear them as cosmetic items.
I wonder, does it make for a great conversation starter or is it considered something of a daring choice like facial tattoos? Both could be amusing to see:D
"my god, the kid wears glasses, how's he ever going to get a job?"
how would you classify Geordi's visor?
@@scottmantooth8785 Geordi's Visor seems more like an augmentation/prosthetic/implant rather than glasses or an accessory.
@@MrMartechi that's what i thought since his visor processes much more of the em and visual spectrum than normal vision
@@MrMartechi neck and face tattoos= insured employability options at a premium pay scale and optimum benefits...also standard factor for appearing on the Jerry Springer show more often than not
Holy fuck! The work that went into this video is immense.
Star Wars also has glasses
But Star Wars takes place in the past of another galaxy. Trek takes place in _our_ future.
@@SatoshiMatrix1 Lol, well, it may be in the past to us, but they are a highly technologically advanced civilization with tens of thousands of years as spacefarers. So, whatever assumptions one would make about our future would apply even more in SW. Still, the SW universe is a much more diverse one, in terms of vast differences between people's access to wealth, technology, etc. Some areas are very disadvantaged and still subsist on primitive tech. But I suppose there are some places like that in Trek, like Nimbus III (in Star Trek V).
@@Daniel-Strain Star Wars doesn't use the same laws of physics we do. Otherwise it would be child's play to get R2D2 to talk instead of beep beep boop boop.
I appreciate this. Thank you!
i still like how Odo puts on safety glasses when those aren't his real eye's .. Odo's eyes are manly just for show like a lot of his aperients it's to allow those around him to feel more at ease .. because he see's in every direction around him in a 360 view .. all though there was that short time he was a solid, and those where his real eyes .. Trek can get fairly Deep ..
Ships and shuttles that still have "wings" needs addressing in most space-based sci-fi franchises.
In startrek it's supposed to be to space the warp nacelles further away from the ship the either radiation or magnetic field reasons, though if you scrutinise the ship designs further they're generally inconsistent enough to make that argument at least somewhat weak.
@@UnknownSquid Yeah it has something to do with the warp bubble. But these still aren't wings. Wings are only needed to generate lift, which doesn't exist in space. Frankly, there should be no definitive "front" to a ship. The sphere is probably the most logical design for an environment that doesn't really contain a specific direction or orientation.
@@Rhythmicons Well Trek never calls them wings and they're not really shaped like wings anyway. They're just structural pylons/struts. Otherwise I do agree of course. Not that I usually worry about it much. Some franchieses are more serious, whilst others don't try or need to be.
Though I'd actually disagree on that second comment about sphere shaped ships, and regard it a common myth/misconception among sci-fi fans. Whilst there may be no drag or true direction in space, there's also very little practical reason to design something in the shape of a sphere either. The way I see it, like any construction, a vehicle or vessels shape is first most defined by the key components it requires to function and the most effective/efficient way to arrange these components to work with one another. Secondly it's defined by the supporting structure and facilities required to house/serve/protect those components, according to it's environment.
The layout of these components as far as I see it, seems incredibly unlikely to ever sphere shaped. Which means that such a spherical hull is going to be largely a big pointless shell housing a drive unit, fuel, crew compartment, etc, that doesn't fit that space.
Regardless of the environment not having a specific orientation, the ship will still require a powerful primary drive to both accelerate and decelerate with, so there will always be one primary forward/back axis. Having a spherical set of smaller thrusters would be obscenely inefficient in multiple regards including mass, energy consumption, thrust, and structural stability.
Another considerations might be armour or environmental protection. Whilst the sphere is the most efficient regular shape in terms of low surface to volume ratio, as mentioned above it's likely already wasting much of that by being larger than the volume it's actually making use of. Further, it presents the weakest possible shape in terms of allowing strategically placed armour, requiring a vast "front" surface to any given threat (whether that be a hostile ship, or incoming meteor/debris field) that will be coming from a specific direction regardless of space itself not having such. A more narrow and "fronted" ship can present a far stronger defensive face towards a given direction whilst using less mass and presenting a smaller target.
And one more consideration for now, would be heat dissipation. A sphere again has the lowest surface ratio, which means it will expel less heat generated by drives and systems, which is actually a massive concern for any truely realistic sci-fi setting. And ironically also one of the more plausible (though non-cannon) explanations for "wings" on softer sic-fi designs. (Eg, the wings on an X-Wing being radiators to allow the guns sustained firing/higher energy yields)
Although ultimately it depends highly on the actual tech used in the setting, I can't really think of any role or purpose where a sphere would be the ideal shape.
@@UnknownSquid Initially I found your response to be intriguing but when I began to formulate counterpoints to some of the more interesting ideas I remembered that this is pseudoscience. Beyond the point that function will dictate the shape of the vessel I believe that all other arguments/counterpoints are moot. I can't speak for you, but I'm neither a physicist nor engineer and without having the intention on building a working design where we could actually *test* certain hypotheses I don't see any reason for us to attempt to refute each other. I will grant you that there will be certain things that will be subject to the laws of physics but without testing, I think its unfair to posit either the disadvantages or advantages of a spherical space vessel. (For the purposes of obstinance I will still stand by my contention that wings don't belong in space.)
Otherwise we would get nowhere. For instance all of the "unused space" could be used for heat dissipation. From a defensive perspective, while it is advantageous to pose the smallest target to an opponent, that will still leave ones' widest portion vulnerable. A spherical shape will always "face" the target. Arguments like these are a waste of time. Any argument about the limitations of a propulsion system or other technology could be magically "engineered out" in a hypothetical scenario.
I do appreciate that you have raised some very interesting points that I will surely think about.
@@Rhythmicons Of course. Please excuse the following reply then if you didn't feel like spending time on it, and no obligation to respond. Personally I just enjoy thinking about and discussing this stuff. Perhaps it will still be intriguing. ^ ^;
(Edit: Oh man, why did I write so much... )
Hypothetically you could solve most of my counter points with suitably exotic tech or specific enough circumstances within the setting, but in the vast majority of existing sci-fi settings and the tech/internal lore they use, as well as the most plausible IRL future technologies/physics as we currently understand them, I feel my arguments do hold out. I only argue against the theory that spherical ships are the best shape, because I see it so often. If people are going to suggest an idea as the most logical, then it's only natural to investigate it. To claim we can't because it's rooted in pseudo science, would also invalidate making the suggestion itself in the first place.
Potential things that might support a spherical design could include...
An inertia-less drive might be able to move or teleport a ship in any direction without a need for a forward/back thrust axis.
A power source and hyper efficient method of transmission that generates very little or no heat.
A weapons technology in which the emitters are both cheap and compact, yet derive the majority of their firepower directly from the energy available to them. (thus making power supply the most important factor)
A setting where armour is either ineffective and/or where shields are the most effective form of defence by a great enough margin.
A setting where shield tech cannot be projected in an ellipsoid shape.
Although even if all of these applied in one setting, there's still not that strong a reason that a ship would benefit much from being a specific shape. If armour is not common (eg in Star Trek) then you also get more freedom to design seemingly unusual layouts without needing to worry about high surface area. If shield loss leaves a ship vulnerable, then having a thinner less centralised design would help reduce piercing and collateral damage. An inertia less drive gives you freedom to build a sphere, or pretty much any shape at all, but still not a specific reason on it's own.
Also whilst it's far from a true objective test, there's also a number of video games where you can design your own spacecraft and put them to the test. I've played quite a lot of them, all with their own different rules, theoretical tech and mechanics, and never yet found one where simple geometric shapes were the best design. Just co-incidentally, in those games I've also built at least a few ships that would appear to have visible "wings", which came into the design for purely practical non-wing related purposes. One was a carrier that required me to space out the gravity generators a specific amount to create the special hangar deck floor plan I wanted. Another was a fighter craft that used them to stow counter measure decoys to trick enemy weapons targeting to aim away from the core of the ship. And one more was a command ship, which I needed to carry dangerously volatile supplies, but that I didn't want to risk placing near the very type of expensive reactor core that ship used, so I placed them out on structures that looked a bit like winged pontoons.
I've always found it pretty fascinating how even slight changes in the given scenario and the available tools/technologies can dramatically change the design process in this kinda stuff. Apologies for the repeated wall of text. xD
Thank you so much for this video! I was asking and asking on reddit if anyone knew how sunglasses were used in Star Trek (for fan fiction writing purposes) and nobody could give me any answers - this answers my question plus some additional ones!
Why would Odo need safety glasses?!
There was a period where the Founders made him into a real humanoid, so maybe it was during this time(?)
Now I realized why I watch EC Henry and RobPlays
Doing the math on absurd trivial things. Love it
I'd love to see a rundown of HCI - human-computer interfaces. Or in this case, humanoid-computer interfaces. Of course there's the tricorder and PADD, the similarly styled touch control panels on federation ships, voice commands and queries, but there are some more unusual ones too. The weird board game thing in DS9 where the crew get trapped in a labyrinth, the game with the finger thingies in TNG in which Data beats that annoying bureaucrat, and the addicting VR game also in TNG. I bet there are lots of others as pretty much every episode makes use of a computer at some point.
remember in the DS9 episode (field of fire) a TR-116 rifle modified with a micro transporter was used by a very disgruntled (if not down right crotchety...just shy of being insane) Vulcan Science Officer Chu'lak to do very unfriendly and less than civil (or logical) things to other starfleet officers (that had annoyed him) used an Exographic targeting sensor that was capable of visually penetrating almost any surface allowing its user to literally see through walls... the sensor looked like a very sophisticated monocle...while Ezri Dax was reluctant to ask one of her previous hosts Joran Dax to help in the investigation knowing his memories had been blocked from the other hosts since he had also proven to be unstable and a murderer as well... but his insight proved invaluable and were critical in solving the case...
Don't forget PPE or AR reasons as well, especially for technicians.
Intersting stuff! Thanks!
2:11 Freeze frame it right there and have a good look at Picard and Data wincing at the blast of sand while racing in their space dune buggy. But look also at a very implacable Woorf, calm as can be. BA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! Terrific stuff.
Well, now I have no reason to be embarrassed for my glasses in my Star Trek cosplay
My anachronistic tech bugbear was the wheeled desk chair Geordi would roll around on in engineering.
They were smart google glasses linked to section 31
That scene where Odo is putting on protective glasses. Why would he need them anyway?
Just wondering if someone knows.
He had already formed eyes with his shapeshifting abilities. In some novel I read some years ago, it said the more he shapeshifted the sooner he needed to regenerate. It was just easier for him to wear protective eye gear than generate new eyes. I seem to recall Quark, saving Odo in the novel, with a futuristic dustbuster and some time travel. I'm not sure if any of this is right. As it has been a few decades from the last time I read said book.
A little off topic from the small things of Star Trek, I love how you are inspired when making 3D models for star wars you pick paint schemes and designs from ww2 era planes. Do you know any similar Star wars ships that could be inspired from the tankiness of a P47 Jug? This is more of a forgotten fighter, but the jugs capabilities and true stories told to me from a book of a deceased grandfather really went into detail regarding the strength and ferocity of this old fighter, to the point where he preferred it over the p51.
I have no idea why... yet. But I absolutely loved this. Sub'd and bell'd. I'll be back... sorry wrong timeline.
An idea for another interesting little rabbit hole: Smoking in Star Trek.
Wheeled vehicles in Star Trek (and maybe Star Wars too) would be super interesting!
I believe there was an interview where the writers were asked why Picard would be bald and wouldn't a cure for baldness have been discovered in the future. They replied that people in the future weren't so vain that they would need to spend that kind of effort. It seems glasses would be a similar issue. Assuming your vision only needed minor correction, like say, reading glasses, then we can assume that its just no big deal to put on a pair of specs when needed. Or that some people would choose to wear glasses over getting corrective vision surgery.
I know of that interview, apparently Patrick Stewart was deeply moved as he'd had to put up with the stigma of being bald and to hear that in the future there would be no stigma was very touching.
Outrageous how Geordi's visor wasn't even mentioned here.
Something I'm kind of surprised I haven't seen yet on Star Trek is HUD glasses. Essentially just glasses that interface with the ship's computer (or whatever portable sensor equipment the away team might be carrying) and provide important information... stuff like relaying sensor data from the ship to the away team, allowing them to actually "see" things like radiation or clouds of potentially dangerous gasses... or potentially cloaked or hidden life forms. You could also provide useful information like a local map with the locations of the rest of your away team... generally lots of uses there and would essentially be functionally similar to Geordi's Visor but for people with functioning eyes.
The viewscreens are actually 3d capable, so I'd assume the display consoles are too.
ds9 did show those with the dominion. they caused headaces when human wore them for several hours
Kevin Griffith yeah Dominion has them , and also Star Trek Picard is Doing the whole Holographic HUD thing
Like organic life, primitive forms of technology continue to exist even when more advanced forms emerge. So it makes perfect sense that glasses will still exist in the future. Keep making these awesome videos!
I had to smirk when Odo put on glasses. How does he percept his environment? Would have been funny If he had held the glasss to his chest or somwhere else to protect his visual aparatus ;-)
That transporter operator is also using a very familiar type of pen. XD
Spock's visor to protect him from "The Lights of Zetar".
Fascinating.
Dont forget Geordi Laforge's Visor, which can be seen as glasses
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Pince-nez. That kind of old-fashioned looking glasses are called Pince-nez. I think they're overdue for a comeback. Last time I went to the optometrist he tried to sell me a pair.
Bela Oxmyx in TOS "A Piece of the Action" wore big '60s frames just like the transporter operator.
*LaForge's Visor:* Am I nothing to you?
Wasn’t it Star Trek Voyager that had the episode where everyone was addicted to the glasses that shot some pleasure into their eyes every so many seconds (kind of like our phones today, hahaha)?
You forgot about Spock's protective goggles in "The Lights of Zetar"
Honestly a use i could see for glasses in trek is augmented reality. Non invasive way of giving personnel a heads up display about the area they're working in along with any virtual signposts, automatic translation, or possibly even incorporating other features into an otherwise ordinary looking pair of safety glasses. Could even see them activly changing their index of refraction depending on the biology of the wearer and the atmosphic composition/density the wearer is in to give better vision, or hell could be even video feeds that post directly to the user's facing side of the device and giving any orbiting ship/home base a live visual feed.
Dominion ships in DS9 have a system like that for Vorta bridge officers.
Do one for toilets. I might be wrong, but I can’t remember a single reference to toilets in all of the Star Trek I’ve seen. Not once have I heard “Commander Riker, report to the bridge”, “Hang on a minute Captain, I’m just having a shit”.
Did your piece on paper include books? Those are also rare because right in the second pilot Gary Mitchell is show reading for pleasure from a computer screen.
Well, it makes a lot of sense. Some people would still be against treatment for some reasons, like some people don't like using transporters or replicators. And of course, protective eyewear will never fall out of fashion!
Hi Henry! I'd really love to see you explore the concept behind communicators in (primarily) TNG. That's something I was always curious and confused about. How does the system works when they "make a call" and say "Picard to Riker". Why does he then responds "Riker here"? Does he hears "Picard to Riker"? Does everyone hears those calls? Why is the "radio" not full of people calling each other? And why do they sometimes have to touch the communicator (even inside the ship) to call and sometimes just shout it out? And sometimes have to use the wall interface? ... Always drove me crazy... :) (And what the heck happens if there are two or more "Stevens" or "Smiths" or "O'Houlahans" on board?!?!?) .
"Picard to Riker" likely just pings Riker's commbadge, like a notification ping on your phone. Riker answers just like anyone would who received a phone call and didn't know who was on the other end.
WORF: They are putting on glasses!
Riker: Glasses?!
Worf: That's correct sir!
Picard: 👓 can't even penatrate our navigation goggles, don't they know that?
The Starfleet President in Star Trek VI belonged to a race called the Efrosians. I remember reading that visible light for Efrosians is shifted towards the red, so they can see infrared things humans cannot, and cannot see blues and violets that humans have no trouble with. The glasses basically shift the light spectrum so they can better see things that would not be a problem for humans to see.
Toilet paper, or has the Federation adopted the three seashells?
Seriously though, I like to imagine that toilets in Star Trek use the same "sonic" technical as the showers. So going number 2 is a soothing, hands free affair.
lol. Now I'm imagining a 'sonic' equivalent of a bidet.
'cause, why would you lift your butt OFF the toilet seat to clean your backside?
Brings to mind Japan and it's crazy toilets...
Like the one that basically has a built-in Bidet function, but which includes a butthole targeting system to ensure the water spray hits the intended target. XD
@@KuraIthys What if someone became addicted to the Sonic Bidet like Barclay was addicted to the Holodeck? :)
I know in Star Trek Nemesis they had that one wheeled vehicle that little assault four by four
The type of glasses the Klingon is wearing is called a "Pince-nez"
When is pacific 201 coming out? It said this summer but haven’t seen anything
The federation president’s glasses look like teddy Roosevelt’s spectacles
GET AN NCC-201 VANITY LICENSE PLATE FOR YOUR CARSHIP, GODDAMMIT!
If my memmory serves me, the president in STVI was blind. At least in the book version. Ans those specs where some kind of visor.
you should do a vid on the USS Vengeance
I vote for non-phaser/disruptor handheld weapons like the TR-116 rifle from DS9.
Would also love Civilian fashion in trek!
We now have Cronenberg’s character on Discovery wearing them 600 years later. That one is really odd.
Why did the Enterprise-E feature a "library"? Are the computer terminals somehow over the ship? can they access information none of the others can?
Where else would the librarian work?
Jokes aside, the context of the scene has Riker and Troi investigating the records of the Son'a and Ba'ku histories while the bulk of the Important Crew are down on the planet. Perhaps the library exists for the crew to have a central place of research instead of what we see the main cast have access to (remember, the named characters are the various department heads and important people, the bulk of the crew wouldn't have access to the locations they do). For whatever reason Riker and Troi decide to use this library instead of the bridge consoles they'd normally use on the show.
If laser eye surgery is commonplace in our time I think it's fairly certain that in the Trek universe it would be so advanced that you could have it done in seconds, just like they can heal a cut or scratch.
Star Wars rarely has glasses too. As far as I know, only a one-off character in the animated show, and a recurring Imperial dude in the recent comics, he sports a monocle
The Dominion had Google glasses on the jem hadar ships.
I'd love to see their future 'history'. They always relate to things in our (current day) history but rarely their own. I know there is a few episodes that explore it (mostly DS9)
I also understand that from a storytelling point of view, you need something the audience can relate to but like in those episodes of DS9 (the riots) we can still pull the meaning of the moment from a fictional future history.
Any time Picard or whoever is griping about the way 20th-century humans behaved, remember that is the voice of Gene Roddenberry preaching at you about things he himself did not understand. hoh hoh hoh
u should look into people’s personal vehicles wether ground car or some kind of air or space craft, curious to see how people really get around in the world of trek
The UFP President in ST6 is blind. They cut mention of this in the film. Those special glasses enable him to read certain types of specially printed items such as Odo’s... sorry, West’s paper printed operations plans. It was another small way to bridge the gap in technology from the original cast to TNG. Cool video!
The style of spectacles the Federation president uses in Star Trek VI is called a Pince Nez.
From what I've read the president was supposed to be blind and the glasses something similar to the VISOR
@@MrGunlover12 I only know what's in the movie but that's just the name for that style of spectacle frame which doesn't have arms and clips onto the nose.
I bet the structure beams of ships are covered in sharpie notes just like any given construction site
Watch disco retcon this into "They were all terran secret agents... ESPECIALLY KIRK"
Do this for Star Wars, that would be cool bro. Since there is not many people in SW with glasses like Star Trek
Love this kind of useless information
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The blue uniforms in "Enterprise" had pockets on them. Saw Trip pull out a tool that helped him get out of that quaranteened room in "Terra Prime". I think T'Pol put the car keys in the jacket pocket she wore in Detroit in "Carpenter Street".
Virginia Connor I think you may have replied to the wrong comment
same its my bread abd butter
I can see them sticking around for a good while as a fashion item. I know I don't plan on getting rid of my glasses even if I get my vision corrected, and I've known a few people who wear non-prescription ones solely as an accessory. Maybe the 24th century is a little far-fetched, but as long as they hold on to _some_ practical use, as seen in the show, I don't think it's crazy for them to stay a somewhat common sight.
I have often wondered why things such as a "tricorder" and a "communicator" and a "Com Badge" are separate and different devices when presently, the cell phones we have today serve as all of that and more...
They can serve different purposes. For example, emergency personnel still use radios as their primary means of remote audio communication for their jobs. In this case, in comparison to a cell phone, a radio is more reliable (because of frequencies), can be monitored by multiple individuals (e.g. other emergency personnel), and is explicitly recorded (for court cases, etc).
Although, off the top of my head, I don't remember anyone using communicators and com badges at the same time. I'm pretty sure com badges simply replaced communicators.
The tricorder, under certain circumstances, seems modifiable to serve as a communicator itself.
Or, again when modified properly, a weapon-of-sorts.
Wheeled vehicles like the Argo?
How could you not mention Geordi’s visor? Or Data’s contacts? Or the Vorta Google Glass?
I wouldn't mind seeing something on chocolate and other desserts. Seems a lot of screen time (relatively speaking) is given toward confections and I am curious how often the shows/films have defaulted to Earth standby foods.
Considering we still eat the same stuff, people were eating in the 30s and 40s, likely even before that, I don't see people in the distant future changing their eating habits. That said if you want exotic, go to asia where they eat every single peace of the animal, every piece.
@@Predator42ID Been there. Ate a good number of the parts. But the American diet has expanded quite a bit from where it was in the 40s. With the advent of social media and even just cable media folks are getting exposed to and turned on to ever more exoanding food stuffs and that just from this single planet.
Retinox fixing eyesight for most is one thing. But the 25th century most have also bio-engineered the human bladder :-) . I don't remember a single reference to toilets or relieving one's self throughout the whole Star Trek corpus. They do make an appearance in Babylon 5 though.
If you did a video on glasses then how about hats, or headgear of all types? The Cardasians had some way out head gear in STNG that didn't show up later on, and that's just one example. Hats of the past and future in Star Trek would be a great video. There is tons of material there.