The Prodigy Who Gave Up On Football Because He Hated Being Famous
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How good was El Trinche Carlovich actually? #GOAT
New video about one of the most talked about players we've seen over the 2000s in football. In this episode we take on El Trinche Carlovich who could have played for Ac Milan, Boca Juniors, Argentina, Inter and PSG but rejected all of them.
0:00 Please like the video, it means the world
1:11 Was Carlovich "The Greatest Argentine Player Of All Time"?
2:10 Why Did He Refuse To Play For Top Clubs?
3:57 The Unbelievable Achievements Of El Trinche
5:48 When Carlovich Destroyed The Argentina National Team
7:24 Carlovich Was Called Up To Argentina, While Playing In The 3rd Tier
9:15 When Carlovich Destroyed AC Milan (Yes, again)
10:38 Why Pelé Was Scared Of Carlovich
11:52 The Tragic Retirement And Death Of El Trinche - Sport
"I dont want to be famous"
*fails horribly*
Hey I found out this guy stole your video contents czcams.com/video/g8td3GmFDA4/video.html
😁😁 true
Success scared him
@@angelestorres6334 not success..but being famous...
Didn’t fail for Messi
Perhaps the most romantic tragedy I’ve heard in all of football. What an absolutely wonderful human being. We all need more El Trinche in our hearts.
It’s another one with a player in Greece even better than him in the 70s and 80s whom all biggest European clubs wanted him but stayed all the time with a not famous team in Greece
He was a bit TOO humble. When father time arrived he had no money to take care of him. All of that fame is pointless if you don't have a post career plan, esp without a family
I never expected that the Legend of Carlovich would reach any other country outside Argentina.
Croatia 🇭🇷
I didn't knew this player existed but this video about his life brought tears into my eyes. Thank you so much for covering these stories cause I bet there's a lot of them, so many good players passed in the shadow that we often forget they were really good in the pitch, but the life of a footballer isn't for everyone
The greatest footballer to have walked the Earth probably never kicked a ball.
simp
@@RoloT007 Well Bobby Fischer and Paul Morphy are the greatest ever chess prodigies the world knew of...And they lived quite recently, even the Sultan Khan guy lived fairly recently.
Best goalkeeper, the black spider Lev Yashin lived fairly recently as well...The best soccer prodigy is probably somewhere around that area, Yugoslavia had incredible chess/soccer/volleyball/waterpolo prodigies in the communist era...So i would say that when politics were involved and sport served as a powerhouse showcase of the mentioned dictatorship communities, most likely the best soccer player live in that era as well...
You have to consider that other from the raw talent, the best ever has to have a good reason to push himself to the limits...Bobby wanted to beat Soviets singlehandedly, very good reason indeed to devote your life to. Paul Morphy was simply bored due to fact he was so much better than anyone else and had master level strength at 10 years of age....
Who is the best? Quaresma, another Portuguese that was the same age as CR7 (this is some deliquent, not Quaresma i forgot that guys name)...
Primitive ages? stone age etc...I doubt there were that much soccer prodigies...
Soccer=football...Sorry if that word bothers you.
People are actors of the moment...Each era defines the person, Novak Djokovic would not have been what he is today if not for the other two greats etc...Limits are non existent, there is always more to achieve, infinity is endless
@@stfustfu7765 The word soccer doesnt bother me, my family is all Irish and they say soccer as over there football is Gaelic football.
Yugoslavia have produced some magnificent footballers over the years and after the break up, some great individual countries, Croatia being probably the most notable so far.
However my comment was being a bit pretentious but I still think that its an interesting thought, although somewhat contradictory.
That the greatest footballer to have lived never kicked a ball, by which I dont mean they are yet to be born, more that the person born with the greatest attributes and thus potential to contribute towards a career playing football, never kicked a ball, might have been born 500 years ago, might have been born in the house next to Messi but never kicked a ball and took up bricklaying at aged 9 instead to help pay the bills.
It was a thought that came from a conversation about less popular and more exclusive sports such as polo and sailing.
I appreciate your response though and in terms of the best to have actually played the game to a high level, I feel we have already seen the best. And its not anyone playing today.
"To Trinche, the one who was greater than me" - D. Maradona
Greatness very rarely speaks but when it does, wow!
Am tearing up😢
Lies again? Serie A Leader F**king Ass
😏 Maradona said the same thing about Pele, Penalessi… (and who knows who else)
@@angelestorres6334 he was a kind man
Maradona also said that Mágico González was better than him, too.
@@angelestorres6334 who is penalessi?
When Trinche passed, damn I remember everyone was in tears back here in Rosario, we couldn't believe it,
RIP GOAT, realmente lo merece todo, amor y respeto señor
yo no sabia ni quien era hasta que vi este video xD
@@elpibelol5005 y segun estos tipos era un 🐐
@@angelestorres6334 yqs si bielsa lo admiraba seguro era buenisimo pero no lo conoce nadie a el tipo ese aca en rosario , me hace acordar a los porteños que hablan sin saber de rosario y dicen que es re inseguro como si fuese mexico o colombia y re que aca nada mas es inseguro en villas o en los barrios de bolivianos/peruanos/paraguayos, la gente normal vive normal y nada mas es peligroso donde estan los boliguayos como en el reto del pais
England owns you. Remember that
La muerte del trinche fue el fin de mi ciudad. Ahora rosario es ciudad narco fue un antes y depsues fue la muerte de la Rosario que era su último paladín murió por una bicicleta
You’re literally the most underrated youtuber, you make videos on the most obscure player and i love it. Keep it up❤
You're awesome, thank you for making a video about him!
I can only say that my dad saw him play once, and he says the guy was just amazing, the natural talent he had. He walked through the pitch, was totally out of shape, but when he had the ball, even the fans of the other team started clapping.
I understand this dude on another mental level than I have ever before. Sometimes a man just wants to be alone with his thoughts
Yeap im like that too… all the talent in the world but prefer to stay in your own world…
Romanticise it all you want, but if you're too introverted without friends, you end up all alone. That's sad not admirable.
It can be both depending on the choices you make. Not every story is the same
@@ninab.4540
Sounds like he had extreme anxiety + social anxiety but loved playing football. So he compromised and played at a lower level with less pressure and less fame. That way he could easily play the sport he loved w/o pressure he couldnt handle. He stayed at the club he felt the most comfortable at as his anxiety would go thru the roof elsewhere and he wouldnt enjoy his football. That "stuck on an island" story sounds like the kind of bs someone with anxiety would make up to lie about why they didnt turn up. Anyway just my theory on him. Id say theres a lot of excellent football players who never made it coz of anxiety/social anxiety/self confidence etc issues..
possibly ADHD
I will not agree with this brother. Introverts cannot understand the world of extroverts and vice versa. U r doing that.
@@vinayaktripathi8883 Sorry youve lost me? Im doing what?
@@Razormiller Or he didn t have anexiety at all. Was full of confidence, but simply hated attention and was a person with principles. I didn t know about him. I m just saying it s not obvious one way or another. Apparently he was confident playing football at the very least. Playing so well in important games. Like for example vs AC Milan. If he was very nervous he wouldn t play a great match.
@@oscareriksen2240 Yep thats why I said: "sounds like he had". I was just giving my view on it. Also I disagree that he'd be nervous playin v Milan. My point was that its the club he is playing for that determines his anxiety levels. Hence why he didnt want to go elsewhere. Anyway no worries if you disagree.
"He could have been a great professional, but he just wanted to play ball..."
Cesar Luis Menotti
The way he died is heartbreaking.
Can I suggest you a player for a future video?
GIUSEPPE SCULLI- son of a mobster, played for juventus, won an international trophy but got denied the medal by the Italian government because of his links, than was involved in a lot of criminal cases trough out his career, but also had a fairly good career at Genoa and Lazio.
Also tried to black mail Luca Toni if he refused to fix a game when playing for Genoa,
this guy was a mad man
Now El Trinche and Diego are playing kick-ups in heaven, rest in peace to the both of them
What makes you assume that?
Doesn't it depend on the decision of the judge?
if heaven exists Maradona certainly isnt there
@@tobysheridan5252you’re not the judge
@@nickeybobriguez8190anyone with a brain would know that a wife beater coke head is definitely not getting a good ending 😂
There is no heaven
He sounded like a gentle soul who loved football
Great video! First time I've heard of this legend! That statement by Maradona 😮
El trinche, un grande entre los grandes. Amor al fútbol y humildad. Tu canal es genial.
Quite the tearjerker you pulled off! Congrats, excellent video, keep them coming.
Modric may have some competition for the title of greatest croatian after all
Absolutely Loving these stories.. keep them coming my brother!! 👍👍
Much love and support!
que grande hiciste un video sobre el Trinche, no lo puedo creer. Muy bien!!!
Brother your chanel In my opinion is the best football chanel on CZcams I love that you bring stories not only about big stars you bring stories about players that played the game of football and not the game of fame and money 👏 🙌 👌 keep the good work
Great video as always! You should do a video about Vasillis Chatzipanagis. He played for a Greek team call Hercules and also for the mix world team with huge names at the time but he never played for the Greek national team. I think you will find his story very exciting!
Interesting
@@opetimistic That guy was just unbelievable. His style was close to Maradona's but his dribling skills were far better.He was a foorbal genius. Check youtube for his vids. He was Greek born in ex Soviet Union. He was already a star in USSR before arriving in Greece. The fact that he had played for the USSR youth team made him ineligible for the Greek national team according to the FIFA rules.
@@funfff thanks
The description is about Berbatov, great video nonetheless, defo leaving a like
Messed up lol
There's always someone better than you. Remember this and be humble.
this video was gold. keep up doing underground legends like this, they are many!
In Croatia many football fans consider Modric to be best croatian player ever to play the beautiful game but only after El Trinche Carlovich (Karlovič).
He was Argentinian.
@@ronniep9272 His father was Croatian, he had Croatian genes. But yea he was legally Argentinian.
i have also heard this from a Croatian neighbor, he mentioned Croatia having the worlds greatest player of time he mentioned Carlovich, I obviously heard of him.
Robert Prosinečki is best ever Croatian player
So now "the greatest (n)ever to be" was croatian? Just more hot air like this video, 🇭🇷 didn't even exist back then, you were all yugoslavs
bro your videos are great and story was well told, thank you for that, RIP Trinche
I'm from Rosario and I was thrilled to see this.. I can give faith than all the stories are repeated in the city, RIP Trinche
I swear to you that if I become a football analyst or manager. I will give you all the thanks for it. Because you have giving me more knowledge that I can ever know about the greatest sport in the world.
underrated youtuber making videos on underrated players and you say the perfect football channel doesnt exis-
They should make a movie about his life. The world needs to know his story
I LOVE listening to your football stories! You have such a talent for telling a good story, and the amazing players that you feature make it so much more exciting, funny and interesting!
Love ur content bro ,the way u search the history of some player who are more important to be sustainable in our thoughts and greatness💌💌💌
Thank you for making such an inspiring video. And you have a great voice. :)
I think an importance nuance is to be made here. Back in his times wages were not really that high. Most footballers had to work a normal job when their careers finished, unlike today. This means that the financial prospects of him going to all those clubs would have been less interesting as it is today.
In those times a lot of great players sticked to their hometown club because being a local hero was worth more than being an international start at some club where the wages were not even that high.
Great video! I love these videos. You uncover hidden gems. Can you do one of Jorge “Mágico” González? He was during the same era as Maradona.
I knew about him. But, man, the way you told it... you made me cry
Awesome video. Thank you for this content
I love Saturdays. EPL and DAILY DOSE!!! TY My Guy!❤
Great video i really enjoyed it, thanks.
Beautiful documentary!
Thought I knew my football but had never heard of him. Fascinating video
I really enjoy these types of videos where the players are relatively unknown outside of their Country.
Crazy how many opportunities this guy turned down. Based on the information presented it seems as if he may have been an Introvert or suffered from social anxiety. What a career he could have had.
I think its always like this- so many stories, verified by the ones we call the greatest footballers, talking about other players they knew and saying "no, this guy was the greatest". I don't think we see the truly greatest ones sometimes, like all of life, like with society too. Sometimes all greatness wants is anonymity.
On of the greatest videos, Al trinche carlovich is a name i would love to always remember
Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
Great video.never heard of him.that's one of the goods of YT.
Great story. Thank You!
Wow, I've never heard of him, thank you for this video! Nowadays it's almost unimaginable that a player from a third division club would get nominated for a national team by the class of Argentina or even just a little below. Back then it definitely was easier, but the sheer number of national coaches who would want to call him up and of world-class clubs who wanted to buy him even when he was in his late 20s is ... outstanding.
Do you consider making a video about Ivica Osim? I'm sure he would fit in your channel. It says Pelé once rejected to play a friendly against Yugoslavia if Osim didn't play himself. And when Osim was Yugoslavian headcoach during the war in the Balkans in the 90s, he withdrew as a symbol of peace.
You dreaming man. Did you say back then everything was easy? Football died 06 and it was its hardest, purest and elegant game 30s,40s,50s,60s,70s and 80s. Forget about these robotic athletes Messi and Ronaldo hype. The only thing they have in riches is staggering stats which again show cases their superiority over their peers. Back then it was tougher, rougher and ruthless environments I mean the climate was hotter than it is today. Oldies footballers could shoot in the sky and somehow while you watching the ball drops its trajectory and in the net before goalie moves. They were so slick in ball movement tacking hard hits and sliding tackles, high boots were everyday occurrence with no penalty at all just imagine that.. Lately we see 2 guys chasing each other, back then every team out there had at least 3 superstars, magic makers, game changers big names. Let’s take a look at the history and forget about numbers. 60s,70s,80s,90s and 20s squad line ups of every team in the history and now look at the current lineups..
@@hassanhashi4091 OK boomer.
It was harder than in present bro....
@@Word69-cp3om Can you name some reasons?
@@md-io4tb It was harder in particular on the Argentine National team in the 70s. The team was just STACKED. For WC 78 even players like Maradona, Bochini (Argentine league greatest player ever) were left out of the team. And impressive strikers like Ligue 1 top Goalscorer Carlos Bianchi and European Golden Boot 1974 Yazalde were not even considered as subs for the team.
For Menotti to even consider calling him and Bielsa fanboying like a groupie, that guy must have had insane natural talent.
The history of Trinche in futbol and Manigault in basketball is very similar.
The two are compared to the best, and are even said to be the "real GOAT". Few people saw him play and almost no records of his matches remain. Both are from places where these sports are a way of life, both had discipline problems, their stories are confirmed by sports greats Menotti and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for example.
And most incredible of all, both have a similar signature move. Manigault had the "Double Dunk" and Carlovich had the "Doble caño" (Double Nutmeg)
THANK YOU for making a video in English about this story. Greetings from Rosario Argentina
If he really was this good there would be a lot videos of him playing. Ok, we're talking about the 70's and 80's but still. I think this is very much nostalgia because of his character and playing for Rosario which is almost unheard of now a days if someone can play for better or bigger clubs.
@@MultiJejje Video records from the 70s in Argentina are really very few. Much more for the second division, where Carlovich played the most
Uff, Tomas "el trinche" Carlovich, one of the "Hidden jewels" (not only of Argentine) but South American football, a player who didn't "shine" next to the other stars, not because he couldn't, but because he didn't want it to be that way.
Perhaps outside of Europe this part of the world is ignored but the Argentine pastures are the cradle of good "raw material" for this sport, he sadly passed away some time ago.
Rosario in particular has always been a fantastic source of top football players....Currently Leo Messi is the flag bearer of that exceptional lot.
@@rainbowseeker5930 his parents are croatian if you didnt know
@@Vzyx0 maybe only one of em
Well it's a very nice video, i Love Argentina football, i Love their aggression, their style and their passion for football, love to watch them play, i really feel sad for Carlovich a player with so much talent would have been a wonder to watch, and would have created history, but this person is of a different level, a different mindset, didn't want to be famous, a humble and peaceful man, nevertheless he is still a Hero, a great personality, when the top football clubs of the world wanted Carlovich to play for them, that means this man had something special in him, whatever decision he he is still special and people should know about such humble and great person, thanks for sharing such good information
May his soul rest in peace
This story shows that to aim high in football you must have two things, the spirit to make it, with will and determination, and the effort to make it, with pure training or pure talent. Carlovich is a legend I've heard recently, people talk marvelous things about him, I believe it. In the world of football, those who don't make it at the top, was for three things: lack of spirit, effort or opportunities. Carlovich had the opportunities and the effort via his talent but he didn't have the spirit, he didn't like the spotlight and, although he is still highly regarded, many wonder how good he could have become. Still, even though his spirit came too late, he will always be remembered, and in essence football doesn't always mean that you have to be at the top, it just mean that you can play what you love with passion: football
Maybe we understood the video differently but from what I understood, it looked like he suffered from social anxiety badly.....different than not having spirit...
Good work mate
Woh, I had never heard of him before but that was a fantastic story!
this is one of the best channels of youtube 🇵🇹🇵🇹
you are great creator bro
What a video. Incredible.
Great Great video thank you
i guess the best footballers quit before they got pro to be honest,
when i remember in my friendzone there were many good youth kickers, and one that was quite okey, the good ones quit football at age 15 to have more time with their friends and girls, but the other one sacrificd all his friends to become a pro and he managed to do it even if he was just a average player and way back behind those ones that quit before
Great video, thank you. Could you make a video of Arthur Friedenreich, please?
It's sad that when he's skill started to decline because of age he had regrets for not playing for better teams and making more money.
The idea of a 3rd division player playing for a national side in 1978 was unusual but nowhere near as shocking as it would be today. Great video 🫡
yk its a good day when lucas uploads
Wow this is incredible!
Great vid
That's crazy having that kind of talent and not using it to the fullest but hey fair play to the man 👏
The best football story ever. Sad but beautiful 👌💔⚽️
That was a great video and very sad too
Croatian and Argentinan mix -- great combo of sports genetics ....
Sounds like he suffered serious anxiety. If only 1 of those clubs figured it out and got him a mind coach or something. Back in those days, it wouldn't have been a common thing I suppose
I really hope the guy who struck El Trinche got what he deserved for robbing the world of such a legend
this is argentina so he was either never caught or released the next day
@@gordemnnoooooooo 😢😭😭
There is a saying - "The fish escape the hook are always bigger."
The most intresting and heartbreaking story in football 😢😢😢
It's a CRIME that is story (I guess) is ignored by many. Thanks to share 😊
Maybe the best football player is not always the best football professional.
People can learn a lot out of it. That success does not always mean fame, money and being on top of your sport.
You should read about Tom Lund, Ajax wanted him to replace Johan Cruijff while Lund still was playing in the Norwegian third division, and he turned them down.
maybe he was a great footballer but he must have been a dummy too!
I enjoy your videos on the more obscure players in the game, maybe consider doing a video about Robin Friday he is known as The Greatest Player You Never Saw
Parabéns pelo o vídeo. Deve ser difícil fazer a pesquisa e reunir conteúdo sem muita data e informação disponível
Do one on Magico Gonzalez of El Salvador. Could've been a legend although for those who know, he's a legend. Maradona said he was in the top 5 players he's ever seen.
Sounds like he suffered from anxiety and maybe depression, inspiring that he achieved so much
Aspergers.
I can empathise with him.
A friend of mine was recently told by his 16 year old son that he's given up on playing rugby because 'he wants to be his own person, not what others want me to be.'
When you are famous, you are owned. You become property of not just the club but the sponsors, the media, the various club charities, social media movements etc. etc. By the end of it all, the time you spend with those who really care about you is zero.
Much as I like to help people, would I really want to go to a Gala Dinner for a charity or cause I know nothing about? Probably not, but if I didn't go - 'Oooh cancel him! Nasty man!'
Integrity and conscience matter more - those you will take to the grave. Trappings of wealth and fleeting fortunes you will leave behind and you'll likely be forgotten by the world as a whole.
¡Que grande el Trinche!.El pibe que relata suena nativo así que ya lo están estudiando en el mundo anglosajón ¡quien diría!. No sabía quien era y me lo cruce en un torneo del club provincial(obviamente acá en Rosario), no había manera de agarrarlo a pesar de que yo tenía 22 y el mas de 40. Me sacaron y el loro Gaitán mas o menos lo pudo marcar. Realmente era un jugador distinto, lastima que no se puede apreciar en los videos. Me da mucha pena la manera absurda en que murió.
Heartbreaking 💔
His parents from Croatia🇭🇷
Legenda 🤝🏻
@@SrpskiDoge 🤝🏻
Nice
Thank you Captain Obvious 👍
@@liberatedentrepreneur149 it wasn't mentioned dafuq you on about?
Could you consider doing a video on Álvaro Recoba.
What a footballer when he had the nenns for it
You'll need to make a "Mágico" González video!
In the 80’s there were only two cracks Maradona and Zico the others were that others.
The guy must have been insane! Playing in third division in Argentina is like playing in 5th division in UK! Big teams wanted him but he refused because he likes in 3rf division
...inspirational...🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Legends are always overblown. 10 seconds grows to a minute and a minute grows to ten minutes.
I feel tear in my eyes
Hello Daily Dose of Football I was Re-Watching one of your videos and a thought went through my head to comment. You should make a video of Jude Bellingham.
I think Rosario is town of football talent
Isnt Di Maria From Rosario?
I can see why Maradona said so, cause he knew exactly how hard it is to breach AC Milan defense at that time, and yet Trinche managed to seemingly playing them.
He looked like a Dalmatian fisherman enjoying full life. Guess what, he actually was Dalmatian, lol. Also Diego had his roots in Dalmatia. Im proud they were Argentinians. Both had huge hearts.
Do Butragueno next!!
Damn makes me feel feeling
This was 🔥🔥🔥 RIP
Incredible story. Nothing else to say.