Chainsaw vs Ironwood! Cutting Down The HARDEST Wood We've Ever Seen!
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- čas přidán 17. 03. 2023
- Hey, everyone! In this video, Randy and I are on our first day of tree cutting in Florida, and let me tell you, it was one for the books! We were tasked with cutting down an Australian Pine tree, and the wood was so hard that our saws could barely make a dent. In fact, the wood was so tough that I had to climb out of the tree just to sharpen my spurs because I couldn't even spike them into the trunk while I was climbing. It was a challenge, but we persevered and got the job done. You'll see us working together as a team, facing unexpected obstacles, and ultimately succeeding in our task. If you're a tree cutting enthusiast or just love watching skilled workers tackle difficult jobs, this video is for you. So come along with us on this exciting adventure and see what it's like to cut down one of the toughest trees in Florida!
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I like how Randy and you are like two laughing brothers, but once someone is struggling, like you gaffing out so many times, he immediately checks if you’re fine, and you two become dead serious. Great example!
They would set a better example if they didn't showcase a white supremacist "blue lives matter" bumper sticker on the truck in the video intro...
@@networkedpersonyou must be fun at parties
It’s not white supremacy. It’s police support.
@@networkedperson Racist? Are you SERIOUS? There are cops of all colors and races... and they're ALL included in Blue Lives Matter.
@@_jay.photos_ For REAL!
I think you and randy should start a whole CZcams series. Jacob and Randy do America! Doing treework all across America!
randy is like that mate everyone has, the one who goes missing for a week then just turns up one day with a mullet but no explanation
We have a tree in Australia called Ironbark. Ironbark is a very hard hardwood used for fence posts, and house stumps back in the old days.
This makes me happy my saw is working fine on Aus wood now 😆
No better way to end a hard day's work than enjoying that view and a dip in the ocean.
YOU AND RANDY IS THE BEST COMBO!! Love seeing him on the channel, hopefully he can stick around for a while!!❤️❤️🤘🏻🤘🏻🇺🇸😎
These are Sheoak. I accidentally collected some as I mistook it for Jarrah here in southwest Western Australia. The main difference is this cuts much easier than our Jarrah and other hardwoods. So if you think that’s hard…..come to Australia and try some of our other trees. Insane! Love the vids bro 😎
Sounds like being a chainsaw in Australia is pure torture. 😂
As a woodturner, I would love to have a piece of that tree😂
as an Australian, who is a big fan of yourself, and Buckin Billy ray, I've always watched your saws glide through cuts and it always made me think i was doing something wrong with my sharpening, watching this was incredibly vindicating for me lol.
this looks like what we locally call Sheoak and I never really considered it to be especially hard compared to the Jarrahs, and Redgums we have here
It is Casuarina Equisetifolia - hard, but yeah, not THAT hard...👍
Yeah I know how you feel! I always think watching them wish we had some softer woods haha! I've climbed dead pink gums and had to put my spurs in the cracks to get up it!
Try banging spikes into dead standing Yellowbox, Redbox or ironbark.
It’s like cutting concrete, hard on people saws and machinery.
You lads don’t know how good you’ve got it with your straight up and down pines.
I also thought I was doing it wrong when cutting wood. Now I know it's simply that American trees just give up the fight to easily
@@tassiehandyman3090 Is that what it is? Thought it might have been our (Tassie) drooping Sheoak (Allocasuarina verticillata) but that does not seem to have made it to the USA. Either way it's the biggest one I have seen.
I think every geographic area has their own version of "ironwood". Up here in Wisconsin, we call Hop horn beem "ironwood". It's the only wood I've ever ecountered that is as hard as the chain on the saw. Awesome firewood though. Can't burn straight ironwood or the boiler will warp! I usually mix elm and ironwood.
Same here in Maine.Hornbeam is “Ironwood”. Good for the wood stove.
Totally agree Zac ! Ironwood put many a woodstove to an early grave because many don't know ironwood s burning properties. I think I remember reading that iron mills used green ironwood to pull the slag off molten iron ,the only wood that would work 🙂
That's what we call ironwood here too (hornbeam). On smaller limbs, like 1-6 inch in diameter, the bark looks like steel too, with a gray almost-satin shine to it. If you don't have a perfectly sharp chain, you'll throw fine powder and smoke, followed by cooking the bar to the point where it messes with the temper of the steel, leaving "blue-ing" along the rails and burnt-black bar paint. Then you'll see some burn marks on the cut endgrain. With a very sharp chain and non-aggressive rakers, it'll still cut but it's a similar experience to what you saw in this video. It's nice that a west-coaster is willing to take a shot at this stuff just to see how different it is for climbing and cutting. Thanks for posting this.
We have those Ironwood here in Ontario too, they're latin name is Ostrya virginiana in the birch family. It's a pretty common forest understory species that doesn't get too big.
After some googling, the tree in this video is also called Australian pine or Sheoak, Casuarina equisetifolia. It's actually not related to pines at all. The leaves look like needles and the fruits look like cones, but it's an angiosperm, not a gymnosperm like pines, spruce, firs, etc. Really weird tree.
Same here in Northeastern Connecticut. Hop Hornbeam. Smooth barked. Are you talking American Elm? Ever try splitting it? Hornbeam and Elm combination from hell.
Jacob you should try to keep a little round cookie of each different type of tree you cut on your trips. I'd love to see how that kind of wood actually mills for lumber.
It mills into lovely slabs
North Eastern PA here buddy! I've been waiting for ironwood! Tons here.
There’s always Kalemity when Jake and Randy work together.
I saw a hardness chart for wood one day that showed oak only coming about eigth on the list, and Australian ironwood being the hardest !
FYI, we call them She-Oaks here in Oz. They are a Casurina species and you can eat the oak apples if you're desperate for food. they have a bit of an astringent taste. They will pull water out of the ground like nothing else and they usually grow in stands (natively) where their needles cover the ground and stifle any growth underneath. They are not restricted to coastal habitat, but that is where you will find them common here. They are also a good indicator fresh water is not far underground. If you spend time near a stand in the breeze, they will muffle the sound of everything else around and all you can hear is pink noise.
sharpen your sawblade ;)
The muffling sounds like Athel pine we have here in SoCal
Such a homey sound, love it
After watching and working with my husband for over 30 years, I can saw you have great skills in the way you remove the trees. I love how you all laugh together, makes the job easier.
Yup, we call them ironwood trees here in Hawaii. The story I heard was that the sailors brought them over to fix their masts and were mostly planted close to the shorelines, but the steady onshore breeze bends them over. So I guess it didn't work out, but they're everywhere along the beaches. I have some furniture I made from ironwood, including a big warped kitchen table. It's appropriately named, sparks fly when you cut this wood
Now I’ve seen them close up, their “common name” is “Sheoak”, they are hard, used throughout the Pacific for weapons by natives, often found along stream, salt tolerant, Somerset Maugham loved them. Parrots love their seeds.
We have other trees here in Australia that are a heck of a lot harder than the she oak , one is the mugga iron bark that is impervious to fire and farmers use the fence posts from iron bark as electric fence posts with out insulators because they don’t have straight grain , the grain is all over the place so it won’t earth out
Bro, you should come to Australia, then you'll definitely know what hard wood is 😅
I always say the same thing hahaha
Yeah, that's a Casuarina of some type, not that obnoxious. Plenty of harder things to work with
Common name is sheoak 👍
The camaraderie between you two is absolutely amazing. Your like two brothers who fight all they time but will stand in unity if either one is in trouble. Love it. 😅😊
Solid seasoned locust throws sparks.
Did an emergency removal in the dark well 🔦 went out and I saw a steady spark on the wood
Legit got the giggles with the gear-up compilation. Just carabiner snaps for a full minute! SO MANY BINERS!
I like how this is called iron wood over there, here casuarina is actually still a soft wood compared to alot of the other stuff we deal with 😂 and we call em she oaks I dunno why they have their own family Casuarinaceae recently split into 4 genera. The 17 different species are identified by minute differences in the needles and fruit nice vid mate
How many saw chains needed sharpening after this job???
was going to say the same thing.
You blokes just made me feel a whole lot better about how it felt every time I've put a saw into a she-oak. That thing will make great firewood in 2 or 3 years once it dries out.
They produce to much ash in the fire. They are a pain in the butt to use as heating timber
Yeah you're gonna love Jarrah. You really need to put Australia on your list. Especially south west WA.
So happy to see Aussie trees on here, these are what we're used to!
Stinken hard stuff ..grew up on that stuff ...none of that soft pine down here !
That’s not jarrah, it’s a casuarina of some description
Yep, we call those Iron Woods in Hawaii! The invasive tree species we have here are all very difficult to remove :( and destroy our chainsaws...
Besides Iron Woods, we also remove Red Mangrove and Kiawe. Red Mangrove is a nightmare because all of the trees grow super tangled and their aerial roots can hold dangerous amounts of tension. Not to mention if you take one wrong step you'll be chest deep in 1-2 feet of water and if you're heavy enough then another 3-9 feet of sediment. As for Kiawe, the wood is also pretty hard and prone to splitting. The massive thorns on the trees make it a real pain to dispose of ;_;
You should come visit Hawaii one day! Very fun and interactive trees to fall ;)
Yep, but if you think our trees are weird have a look at a platypus. 🙂 Cheers from downunder PP
In high school I conned the teacher out of a chunk of eucalyptus, as a lathe project….though I was horrible at sharpening, he watched and said that I was going it right, went back to the lathe and it immediately dulled sending smoke everywhere. Carbide tipped personal gouge came out of hiding and it lasted about five minutes. That was well seasoned, not at all moist. But mesquite is supposed to be similar. Good thing is mesquite is really short so you don’t climb. Bad thing is that the wood is beautiful and extremely hard to find in any use able size. And really pricey. Sharp beats everything!
Aussie timber!!! you really need to come to Australia, get ya saws into some proper hard wood. Love ya vids, keep em coming!
you and randy make great vids. hope for more!
Hi I am from OZ the Shea-oak (F) Bull-Oak (M) , Casurina, is not the hardest Aust timber, Iron bark grows in the Nth in the Sth White Mallee and Pink Gum are a lot harder you need to touch up the chain every tank fill. The Casurina can live through years of drought by going into a dormant state and then reviving after rain by taking moisture in threw the frons, needles.
Thanx for the knowledge that’s cool!
Jacob I was very sorry to hear about the "KALE" killing! lol Randy and you sure have fun when you work together! Great video Jacob..the beach looked desserted...must have been a little chilly.
If I saw an arb truck with a TOOL sticker I am 100% more likely to choose them for any work
Affirmative. Wise comment
I enjoyed coming back and finished watching all of this video.
Laughing in Australian thinking that's not hard 🤣. Nah great stuff on this tree! Just wait till you can have a crack at some dead pink gums! I've had to stick my spurs in the cracks to get up it!
The jump start move was insaneeee 🤣 might have to start doing that
Our hardest trees here are Shag Bark Hickory and Shag Bark Oak they're 55pounds per cubic foot of wood, very hard to take down even when dead, also the Cottonwoods that grow near the rivers here have silicone in the wood fiber which dulls ur chain saw
I hate climbing shag bark hickory. Kinda like the same deal Jake was dealing with The hard scales of bark and rock hard wood
Australian Iron Bark is 66pounds per cubic foot.
Fascinating watching you guys work all the rigging and wood work. Nice channel. I love to watch professionals doing their thing, and you guys are definitely that.
Been watching your videos forever from western australia and love your content. Its great that finally a american tree youtuber has cut and climbed the wood we work with everyday.
Its bloody hard work in the heat working on this wood.
You should fly over and do a month over here and do our trees.
That would be awesome
Thought Ironwood was related to Hornbeam but looks like there are other contenders. That didn't look fun to cut, but was fun to watch (apart from the kaletastrophy! 😱) 😜. You and Randy are a great double-act. Reckon the beach time was well deserved and a relief you're both so secure and confident in yourselves you didn't need to show off your 12-packs. 🤣
I live in Florida and have cut down many of those ausie pines and they are by far the hardest ones and the heat here is definitely ruthless
really happy to see Jed on your website.
Nice to have a competent guy on the ropes
Love your videos. Glad to have met you and worked with you. You’ve helped me, so now I wait for the opportunity to help you. Truly one of a kind.
Thanks man 🙏
Welcome to Florida Randy. That Australian Pine wood is super hard and it makes good firewood once it dries out. Hurricane Irma took a lot of those down throughout Southwest Florida and they are a PITA to clean up because the wood is so hard.
Fun to watch you take on Iron Wood. Good Job Guys!!
That’s what us east cost climbers have to deal with all the time , hickory , oak , some maples are hard, Elms suck to climb , sycamore sucks also , plus our trees are sprawled out as you know , I wish we had Doug firs everywhere except I’m not so sure I’d be a fan of the heights of them. Glad you brought randy you guys kill it
I worked in Florida after hurricane Andrew running a Diamond Z tub grinder, that Australia pine was almost impossible to grind.
Yeah these are hard trees. Put in as a wind break for hurricanes just for that reason. Thanks for sharing
Gives a whole new meaning to 'jump starting'😂
I love turning Australian Pine on the wood lathe. Nice color and lots of chatoyancy.
That was a crazy hard Tree.
Only a few casualties. Y’all did great. Stay safe
We (Australia) have a tree called Ironbark, that tree isn’t an Ironbark. Ironbark has a Janna hardness of 11. Another name for one of the Ironbark (there are 5 in the group) is “Scented Salmon Gum”. They “bleed” red sap that hardens. They are useful for lots of things, I have floors made from Ironbark. In the US Guitar Makers use them for Fret Boards.
That is a Casuarina a She Oak. No where need as hard as irobark but hard.
Aussie box is also a mongrel on the teeth
@@outnode366 I don’t know about that, it’s pretty tasty sometimes
@@anthonyburke5656 I left myself open with that one.🤣
@@outnode366 sorry, I couldn’t resist the temptation, seriously though, the Ironbark floor is glorious, but it cost a shit load for the timber
WOW!! Another great video
G'day,
Would be an interesting experience for yourself spiking up some dead Eucalyptus here in Australia. Hard as concrete, even with sharpened spikes, gaffing out happens 😂
Also, I'd say Sheoaks are midrange for hardness, definitely pretty heavy wood.
Good stuff mate, perhaps one day we'll see you over here!
Cheers, 🇦🇺
True professional - and managing the risks on the climb. And sharp spurs too. Lol.
Heya jake and folks from Australia. Here we call them a She-Oak. Really soft wood but burns nice and hot. They grow crazy here as well. Love your videos 🤙🤙
Sweet jump start there Jacob!!
This tree put up a good fight. Man nature sure is impressive. As always awesome work.
These trees make beautiful furniture- bench tops etc. have some fantastic colours and fiddle back grain. Reasonable firewood as well.
As some have suggested we sharpen more on a 30 degree with the chain over here which seems to help a bit in harder woods.
@Jake, tnx for teaching me about skip chains. So they're made for when you get paid by the hour. Chain just keeps skipping and skipping. Got it. 🤣
There's another invasive called Chinese tallow tree. We can thank Ben Franklin for bringing those. Whole trees just keep sprouting from the tiniest pieces of root. We just slash/squirt em.
Thanks for taking us along. That was a weird tree indeed.
Best wishes to you and the family.
🤘😎✌️
That was fun to watch. Welcome to the sunshine state.
I'm from Western Australia and I think I know which one this is, it looks like a Common Sheoak (Allocasuarina fraseriana) or also known as the Australian Casuarina Tree.
This is one of the many hardwoods we have in Western Australia, the most common here are the Jarrah and Karri trees which are denser timbers than the Sheoak.
Because we are cutting hardwoods all the time, I find that a lot of people over here will buy the larger professional saws over cheaper models that you could probably get away with in Europe and America.
Here in Australia we call them (she oak ) it is a very solid wood it generally grows in Tasmania , Victoria, New South Wales and South Australia it is a beautiful timber and mills very well but very hard on saws and can stand very hot fires , love watching your vlogs all the best from Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺
Nice job
Crazy hard wood !
Jake, you might want to check with the manufacturer of your spurs, but every pair I've seen are supposed to be sharpened on the facet you didn't sharpen. In fact, the two facets you did sharpen should never be altered😬
Have a margarita for me. What an interesting job, strange how that tree had all of those qualities and is evasive as well. Safe travels guys!
Fascinating watching you gaffing out. Hasld the same on a Ngaio in NZ. Incredibly tiring climbing.
Here (in Australia) we call this iron bark the settlers my area made fence posts frame this (some are still working 200 years later). They also used it for load Bering Timbers on houses. It’s also very popular to Mack outdoor furniture as it doesn’t need to be treated against rot and is a beautiful red when dried.
If I recall correctly that wood when planed and oiled is gorgeous looking wood. Yet a pain in the ass for joiner 😂
Really enjoy your videos, thanks for the effort and time it takes to do them, much more involved than people realize. On top of that you're doing something extremely hazardous and can change in an instant, not used to the species of trees, their conditions (gaffing out stops one's heart even after years of climbing), sleep depravation, new surroundings and crews, well done.
Thank you
Thank you for mentioning prices, I’ve never heard you say them before. Great video
Awesome job brother
We need more duo videos, so good!
Redgum Ironworks please note some Allocasuarinas can be very hard. Depends on their rate of growth. I agree though these guys look like they rip through their big trees but they are mostly ‘softwoods’ . Aussies cut these ‘hardwoods’ every day.
Love seeing you struggle with an Aussie tree these things are soft for trees here most of our gum trees are this hard if not more so I'm jealous of your guys soft woods these things also take years upon years to dry out it's nuts
You boys did one kale of a good job!
Their good for BBQ but yes very invasive. They also fail in storms frequently. The leaves (which are actually Branchlettes) fall and have a natural herbicide in them. They usually have deeper roots in their native lands but here the water table is higher up making them risky. They aren't pines they are referred to as a "She oak" in Australia. Cool to watch
Looks hot AF 'round those parts. Enjoyed the gearing up segment at the start: Click clack carabineers. Feels like an arsenal.
Brother I'm in vero beach I'll drive out to meet you. Just got into arborist work because of you. Thanks for being in florida.
That’s the kind of tree you would get really good cutting boards from solid and a nice color as well
Yep in Hawaii we call them ironwood but they are native to Australia, hence Australian pine or in Australia “she oak” but they aren’t actually pines. Casaurina Equisetifolia, It is very hard and heavy, makes up about 80% of tree work here. Kiawe is twice as hard and heavy… oh and covered in 2” thorns.
In this video you guys really "kaled" it ! No kale is safe from attack from 8 pack and double stack ! Sending 2 thumbs up from Wisconsin! 👍👍
Aussie here. Looks like Allocasuarina verticillata you got there ( or Drooping Sheoak ). Yep there is some might hard stuff down under. I regularly cut Eucalyptus Salmonopholia ( Salmon Gum) for fire wood which is very tough stuff - you just gotta be patient and allow your saw to cool and regularly sharpen your chain. But if you ever come across a Eucalyptus Wandoo remember to bring a few extra chains to get through the day. :)
Here in the UK we have a similar tree that is classed as a softwood, and it has needles, but is as hard as nails. It is the Yew, which grows mainly in the South, and mostly on the chalk. It is a true saw blunter in that it builds up Calcite crystals in the wood. One touch of that and the saw is blunt. Re-sharpen, and the next few cuts result in the same thing!!
It is a very decorative red wood used much for hobbyist turning, and in the olden days the branches were split for longbows, but sawmills always ask where it was was from, and if you say off the chalk they will not take it, because it strips the teeth off the blades. It is very long lived, and found much in churchyards where specimens of 2,000 yrs plus are found. In the South it is called the Hampshire weed, growing in large closely packed stands, and shading everything out underneath.
I was getting excited that you may have been in Michigan, but I was wrong. We have a tree in Michigan that is called an Ironwood, that is extremely hard. It is part of the birch family, and it's Latin Name is Ostrya virginiana. They are the hardest tree I have ever come across.
Me and My Dad usually cut this tree for Fire Wood ordered by local Big Oven in Indonesia, they really like it, it burn Longer almost like Ulin Wood, it very hard wood, even chainsaw with new Chain doesn't create chip just dust and powder, even With MS 070 (120cc)
Semi chisel territory! At least its clean wood, not rotted or full of termites and sand. Its good to see you cutting timber a bit closer to what we cut down under. South Aus here.
Great job tree service and how hard that wood is ok
In Northeastern NY and Vermont, we call the Eastern Iron Wood, Hardack. As it grows, it takes the soil into its outer layer of wood and bark and is notorious for dulling saw chain.
Getting a little taste of what we deal with in the Midwest.🤣 You west coast guys are lucky with all that Doug fir you get to play with.
Edit: I guess I should clarify, I don't think we have ironwood but we do have a lot of hardwoods. I do a lot of super dead ash trees and some of them can be pretty hard, make you think your chain is dull and if it's not it will be half way through the tree. I get jealous of all those tall firs I see you guys doing.
Ikr, our hardwoods are such a pain.
You have never cut spruce then. File your chain twice before you even get to the top of the tree
Ausm video guys
Fireman 🔥🔥🔥
I started using square ground here in Wisconsin and it works great! Cuts through stone dead ash like butter, stays sharp too!
The Iron woods we cut here in Canada give off a small light display if cut at night.
If you think that’s hard you should see some of the other native species we have in Australia
Casuarinas are on the softer side of trees we regularly cut here in Queensland, once you start getting into some of the eucs or wattles they get tough. However the hardest timber ive cut has been rosewood & lancewood in central qld, makes you double take on your sharpening skills haha. The old timers we met recon its termite proof because their teeth snap off when they bite it.
I cut what i thought was stingy bark, the bark was so tough I thought the chain was blunt, put a new chain on and the same, one I got through the bark it was ok.
LOL....love the video!!
Dang, as a climber from western Massachusetts (as my handle says) I find a lot of things that you west coast guys (Canadians included) funny. Most interesting take away from this video is that you don’t keep your spurs sharp. That’s such a mandatory thing for me. I love watching your videos man. 👍 always so interesting to see how different every climber’s experience and skillset can be. And like the different things that can throw a guy off. Thank you for making your videos man. I always appreciate you all who take the time to record your work. 👏👏👏👏👏🤙
I gotta add this: as tree people we all have a lot of strengths/skills, but the best way to be strong and skilled is to be humble and learn from each other. I love everything you’re doing Jake, you da man.
Good wood! Especially those burls!!
this episode reminds me of the blunders in an old sitcom called McKale's Navy!
Thank you for a great video! ❤