Busted A Welding Test-What Went Wrong and How to Fix It
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- čas přidán 17. 10. 2019
- Welcome back to episode affinity... well just like the title says I busted my welding test. This is not a very fun thing to bring up or film but the way I think about it is, this might help you as much as it helps me. We owe a bunch to a veteran welder named Clay. This guy is as awesome and humble as it gets. As we where out setting up for this episode I was explaining that I had undercut that welding test from top to bottom. One of the procedures for this test was running a minimum of 130 amp root with an 1/8” 5p+ rod. It was way to much for the gap and landing I had set up for. Clay sat out for more then two hours helping us figure out to run a root that hot. Hope you guys enjoy this episode we owe it all to Clay for helping us out. Be blessed
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As bad as you hate admitting to it, it keeps you more "real" to the viewers. Keeps you humble as well. Which I believe is the word you were looking for. 😎🤙🏼
Chris thanks brother. When are we getting to soe top golf. Its been way to long.
Jacob Schofield
For sure! We'll have to get together in the next couple weeks!
Welding is so deceiving. Anyone can learn to weld in a few hours, but it takes real dedication to become a welder who can craft beautiful, fully sound joints time after time in all conditions.
Well said
Pro welder in Canada here. You're spot on. It always looks easier than it is. The goal I've found in my experience, is to make the hard welds 'feel' easy. Takes a lot of practice to get there.
Hey that’s my Husband, Clay! Keep at it Jacob!
Jeni I owe a bunch to your husband he sat out there and helped us out a lot!! Did he leave the camp ground already? Havnt seen his truck.
He enjoyed it! We were talking about it last night when he found this video. And yes he left already, he had to be down in Livingston Texas by Wednesday. I could email ya his number if you wanted, he’s not on Social media much haha
That’s my brother!!! ❤️
Yes please I was going to take him a case of beer for helping me out. Will you send me your address also please I’m going to send you guys some things. Thanks so much. Wish we would of gotten a lot more of him. My brother was filming and was just as interested in learning as I was, so the filming took a back seat. But just send me his number and your guys address to schofieldwelding@gmail.com tell him thank you for everything.
Heck yeah! And I think he enjoyed it as much as y’all did! I emailed you his info :)
I remember busting a tig test for a pipeline because I didn't know how to "walk the dog" so I came home grabbed some pipe and by the next day I was the best damn dog walking tig welder you ever seen. I beat myself up so bad I became the master at it. Busting that test was the worst day of my life, as a welder, kinda :-) But at the end of the day it's also what makes us better welders. If you never failed you haven't done anything.
As we say in the UK a welder who has never dipped a weld test is a liar or has not spent any time on high quality projects
When you stop trying to learn new things doing this job you will fail. These old hands have a wealth of knowledge that will rival everything. Thats why I love this career. This career isnt for everybody but i love that i get to learn a massive amount of skills from the ones before me. I LOVE that i get to carry it on and teach others when in need.
It takes a real man to own up and admit it was your mistake that busted that test. But that’s real life man. You are a stand up dude Jacob and one heck of a role model and I bet you’re a damn good father and a teacher.
Thank you Robert. MEans a lot and im sure I have a lot of improving in all these areas of life. thank you again.
I'm not a welder, but I admire your dedication and how you guys stick together and help each other.
40 yrs experience. It can be done many ways it's all in the balance of heat,gap and land. Great video my man.
Ive been in the NDT business for 30 years but can still remember that feeling of dipping a graph or a UT test. Not good but you learn from it
Not a welder but got a job as an apprentice rigger in an oil refinery. Veterans there, some had 30, some 35 years experience. They were so full of knowledge about how to rig things, I would go home and think about the job until the next morning. It was so cool too work with experienced men in the field.
Thank you for making this video Jacob. I listen and pay attention because I wanna better myself. Thank you also for keeping it real and being humble 💪🏾
I’m just blessed to see your videos but I thought I was the only one struggling but the challenges are real it’s good to see all the knowledge put to use and overall be shared that’s the definition of blessed going thru the challenges and sharing them with people looking to overcome those similar challenges in life or your job very cool 👍🏽👊🏽🔥
By u
"If you never busted a test you never been anywhere."
I've been everywhere man🎶🎶🎶
@@georgiojansen7758, U too huh... ( :
Say what ?
Over the years, I've done that at least 5 times and it pisses me smooth the fuck off.
Even if you adjust the voltage/amperage, polarity, wire feed speed and check the amount and psi settings of the backing gas, the machine itself could just be fucked up and old.
Great video Jacob, big thanks to Clay for the tip n trick help out. God bless you keepin it real bro, great camera skills too nice to see that root glowing under the hot pass :-)
It happens to the best of us brother.
Keep your head up
Exactly why I subscribed to your channel, your humility is so admirable Jacob, keep up the good work brother 💯💯
It sucks that u busted a welding test, but your attitude and the way u handled it and got some advice and went after the self improvement etc.m and then with humility sharing your experience m is what helps all of us welders become better.. that's cool bro. Your doing the good work...
as long as you learned something from it, its all good!!! IF you busted & didn't learn from what you did wrong is BAD!!! I was told years ago try to learn something new everyday!! I have tried to do that, some days you don't other days you learn a lot!! technology is changing very fast these days!! you really have to keep up with it!!! most guys that have been in the field will share their wealth of knowledge with the younger guys if they feel they will stay with it & show some work ethic!!! thanks for sharing with us
Badass video , and Glad to see guys like yourself doing what ya Love !!! Welder 👨🏭 for Life
your honesty is refreshing, and yes, we can learn form this...thanks Old timer....Oldtimer in Florida, Paul
One of the first things I learned in school running 7018. Gravity
I'm in my trade near 30 years and I still learn stuff that changes the way I've been doing things
every day is a school day age and experience doesn't come into it
ance again a great video
keep up the great work
Caught myself closing my eyes when you tacked it to the truck
Thinking I would’ve repositioned the pipe. Clay mentioned it more than once. Yes, listen to the experience and if he’s patient enough to be there, repeats himself, get the hint.
1st video I've seen by you and I instantly subscribed and liked. Very genuine and a likable person. I'm getting my Nccer on december. Can't wait
Israel thank you Sir. we really do try to just be good people. what is a Nccer?
This is a real man to show and tell!
Great video! Really like this one
Moving from mug to stick. Pushing myself to learn more all the way around.
Man it’s the only way to stay feed in the weldin industry.
I’m so glad I watched this video. I broke out 2020 and my first job was 30” X70 doing tie-ins etc. probably would have repaired out if not for this video🙏🏻
Good dude.... really helpful
Seeing those Bingham county plates makes me happy, keep up the good work!
It takes a great welder to admit that!!
It took me three months to pass my overhead test!
Keep making this great videos
Great welder with a lot heart
I’ve never welded a thing in my life but this makes me want to learn.
It happens to the best of us. It's an ugly feeling and it's ok to roll up after busting out heading home upset with no one else but self. The lesson is realizing the mistake or mistakes that were made and learning from em. Busting out only makes you a better welder
Jake ur the most humble guy I know
Thank you very much.
I was once told a welder who says he has never busted a test either hasn’t taken enough test or hasn’t been welding long enough. Even the best bust. Hats off to you for picking back up and never giving up. They tel me every day you weld you learn something new you never know enough, always be willing to listen to the guys who have been doing this longer. Or even been around it longer.
God bless
So true...
great videos! 👍 i’m trying to get back into welding again it’s frustrating with little experience.
No Name I'm doing the same thing at age 27
One of the things I got sick of welding. Testing. Test for this job. Test for that job. Jobs two weeks long now do another test. Its the same work why did I never get the same damn test....always different. I adopted an idgaf attitude to remove the stress during test and that worked.
I enjoyed the 6 year job I had. After the initial tests I never even knew that I was being tested periodically. They did production tests after the first tests.
Got sick of testing. Then you have the tube welders in a boiler. I never did that. Talking to them the stress of it would get to them after years as for them every single weld is a test. They needed a 99% pass rate due to it being so hard to repair a defect. Or so I was told.
Awesome video my brother 👊🏻👊🏻
Thanks klay. Stoked to finally get to meet you brother in Chicago.
Same here mate 😁
Man i like that coat buddy sweet rig too
Your not a welder if u never busted a test brother. It happens. Dont dwell on it
Man thats rough I mean I would personally be pissed but a reminder to always ask what is the procedure. Thanks for the video and the tips keep it up
Can’t tech this at any school!!. Some good stuff to cement into your head! Free teaching!!
Thank you Bert. Means a lot
It happens to the best of us and we ask ourselves how but just gotta move on can’t let it beat us up to much
We were always taught in welding school well that’s what my instructor said “keep your wide gap up top”
That's wrong, if u have a wide spot u want it on the bottom cuz If it's up top u take a chance of gravity pushing a grape in it
Beau Godwin not if you slow whip it you won’t have a drop. You want the wide on top every time. Step it. Let it cool off. You don’t want the wide on bottom it’ll just lay flat and ugly. Can’t make it stand up.
@@bretmcgee3573 trust me buddy I'm actually a pipeline welder and in the field its always better to put the wide space to the bottom not the top cuz yea u can step it in if the top is wide but again u take a chance of leaving a gas pocket behind but if u put in on the bottom u can turn your heat down a hair and soak it in
Beau Godwin I’m a pipeliner welder too bud. I guess to each his own. Whatever works for you may not work for others that’s why I respect all opinions and try them. God bless brother and be safe out there
@@bretmcgee3573 that's a fact my man gotta just do what works for u!! God bless an u be safe as well brother
I have a copy of (welders offshore guide), that's sold on EBAY, and in one part of it, it tells how a number of welders learn and get certified without ever having to go to an expensive welding school. So many young men want to be welders but some are already married and cannot afford to take a year out of their life and go back to vocational training school. Ingalls in pascagoula, ms. Has 3 year pipe welding apprentice programs where they pay $17.50 per hr. Just to train you, drawback is passing a drug test and no criminal background which most welders have issues with both. That's why I like the welders offshore guide because it overcomes all those issues with the knowledge it provides on learning and getting certified, without having to go through long awaited union programs, some welders follow its advice and get certified in a few weeks. I wish it had been published back in the 70's when I started welding.
Never go to South Florida them guys there say that they have never busted are had a leak, but have only taken 3 test in there long career of 5 years, and they never been out of the state of Florida.
Maybe burnt only 100 pounds of welding rods in there career.
42 years I’ve busted 4 test and it made me better at what I love to do,
Oh you always get those couple guys for sure. No worries I think the hardest part of this industry is dealing with people. After that it makes being under a welding hood a lot more enjoyable lol
Just went for a weld test today and busted it up. I know i aint got the job.. but i will keep on keeping on until i get it down.
I see others putting in the root and the rod flexes while the are putting it in. They too have been welding for over a decade.
Northern Alberta, sweating on one test. 6g uphand. Ends closed off and my remote stopped working, had to go to my machine to adjust amps. F3 R&H, F4 fill and cap. Passed and then went and made $35,000 in a month. I’m out of that now, eye sight not so good anymore. Do mobile mechanic now, way less stress.
I got to see clay in action in Russell ks working for jomax in tie-ins
P.S SOME gas companies want let u use a template they make u lay it out so it's good to learn how to lay 1 out as well guys, it's not hard to do just takes some patience and skill
oh for sure there is a whole serious we put out a few years ago on how to lay it out. thank you.
Hey Jacob I’ve got a question about the lenses. I noticed that when I go down to 85 A I have to drop down about a shade or two to be able to see it really well. Do you carry a lens for your 85 amp passes and another lens for your 120 amp passes? Or do you just rely on the auto dimming lenses
I'm using a seer #10 auto darkening from amazon. I love it in my fibre-metal. Been welding for almost 8 years this is my first auto darkening lense
Watching from Lewiston idaho
No shame in that, Jake. A lot of guys I know have busted for oneok who’ve been in the game for 10-20+ years.
23:96, are you burning the slag off with the torch? Why not grinder? Novice here. Curious for my own sake. Love your vids.
Keep up the good work buddy!
Jacob,, really like your passion and your videos.. I"m a retired welder from the Nuclear industry. I am also a Christian Brother... at 31:08 you busted out the GD... be safe with that brother,, Our Lord and Savior wants us to be the BEST we can be, to show others the Love of our Heavenly Father. Teach by Example My Brother,, God Bless you and your family. Road work is always difficult, be steady and strong.... DAWG from the Show me State, Missouri.... peace
Where are you testing at? Looks like in Fort Collins.
So ive slowly started putting a truck together and have started focusing on my hood time but to be ready to break out how does one get rig welder jobs at plants
“Use the same amount of pressure as if you were using a pinecone for toilet paper”😂
I had an issue with a 6010 6 g schedule 80 6 inch bend test . Have you ever done one?
If you have the new software, you can adjust your dynamic dig to make your arc more or less aggressive. You probably could have softened it up enough to where you could have ran 130 with a 3/32 gap.
I need to really look into something like that. I didn't even realize you could download new softwear.
Jacob Schofield www.millerwelds.com/support/software/engine-driven-software you will need an empty thumb drive. They’re step
By step instructions on there also
Busting a test will test your limits keep your composure learn improve pass on were good but can always be better keep your cup half full
Granted we are using wire but I always use 3 tacks on pipe. One dude when he tigs will only use 2 and set his pipe out enough to take in the heat
when I fab I only use two tacks but on a test it defenetly gets 4 tacks. unless its 2"
I’m a decent welder. Imo. For the most part I want the bigger gap on the bottom. gravity is gonna help it fill. when it’s on top taking a chance of having weld hanging down inside if it gets out of hand.
I just want to get it straight, higher Amp root pass less gap lower Amp root pass wider gap?
What brand of templates are those ?
20 years in the business up here in Canada 10 of them as a bead hand biggest advice can give a guy coming up in the industry running root is you want to be welding on the lands not in the lands. Easiest way to explain it
Hey man can you do a video on how many hours are put on your machine through out your work period week or month
you bet. ive owned this machine for I believe a year I could be way wrong. but I bought it with 870 hrs and it has 2350 give or take now.
What kind of gloves are those
1/8 rod on your root?
If your running a SA 200, what gear and where at on the fine control?
probably 3rd gear and 60 or so you will have to use a volt meter to find out exactly where your machine is set.
If you haven't busted any test you haven't been welding long enough. I've busted on copper-nickel and hastelloy piping in the shipyard. Got them now though. Keep on keepin on Jacob 👊
see these are all things I would need someone like you to show me how to do it before I could go do it.
@@JacobSchofield I thought I was hot shit enough on carbon and stainless that I figured Cu-Ni and Hastelloy was gonna be a cake walk. Dead wrong. Those nickel laced materials don't wet out at the toes for shit, and if you have carbon and stainless torch manipulations ingrained in your head it's very hard to break the habit of believing to puddle will flow out on its own.
My fault for being an arrogant welder and not taking the time to practice on drop pieces of nickel pipe. Busted for lack of fusion for days underneath the cap. I'm very greatful I was allowed a second opportunity and realized I'm not all that and a bag of patato chips.
Jason Sembrano pride comes before the fall. We all have learned the hard way😂. We can only go up from here though
How are you still getting new welding caps?
I just buy a lot at a time these are all new because they are in a pile I havnt grabbed from. She is in the virgin Islands with TY he has a welding job over there. when she gets back she will be taking orders again.
Busted on another test, drove 17 hours, next day I was given a 12’ and a 90* elbow…6”. The darn pipe was magnetized. Tried wrapping the ground lead around the pipe but it didn’t help. The bead kept to one side. Just bad luck I guess. Ever experience any thing like that.
Could that fit apply to a up hill root (AKA up hand,plant style root) and what about a horizontal or Arkansas Bell hole would you do the same fit if the procedure called for 130 min amps and the pipe was in one of those positions
uphill I like a really tight fit because I don't like stepping in a bead I would much rather drag it in.
@@JacobSchofield okay thanks
You wont be able to run 130 amps going up. 1/8 land 1/8 gap and stepping is what I do. 75-80 amps. Arkansas bell hole is just a 5g position (vertical) from my understanding. Horizontal or 2g I might go 3/32 on the gap with similar heat. I do more building work though so I'm not really with the pipeliner lingo. Even going down at 130 seems crazy to me but hey.... there's a hundred ways to skin this kitty.
@@iamsam4260 thanks
Do u run ur root uphill or downhill?
What brand of work shirt is that?
what does he mean when he says that gravity will always help wouldn’t the gravity spread the pipe back open?
Can you get one of them lenses for your camera so we can see what your doin with your rod. I’d love to see that
yes sir it is on its way.
That Wyoming hoodie though! Go Pokes!
Wish I could hear more of the conversation! I feel like there’s good shit in there. Just hard to hear.
Other than going back to school and getting in a welding booth and welding right after work how do you get better welding. My problem is that job i get most of the time im not being sent out as a welder. I just be sent out on a job just so i can feed my family. othere than buy a used welder and practice at home how do you get better when you are working to far from school to practice welding at welding school? What should I do?
Joseph Louis you just answered your own question there... buy a welder and start welding!
What gloves are you wearing in this video?
What size rod are you using for this weld
1/8" 5p+ for the root.
What’s the most money you’ve made in a year being a pipeline welder I’m currently an apprentice for plumbers and steamfitters
I’m not a pipeline welder but I’m a pipe fitter helper and I’ve met guys making 5k+ a week
I heard your boy saying something about laying out with the blue book Hes getting the blue book wrong, when you get the big gaps on the throat , you are measuring backwards on them lines , you gotta start from the inside out,
What brand of welding jacket is that?
Upinsmoke welding apparel you can’t go wrong
,130 amps I'd want 3/32 land and maybe a 16th gap.
Shit I busted 3 test one time back to back that was very depressing went in head filled with air not thinking straight then boom bust it sucks but u learn what not to do expect the unexpected always
Are you doing very tiny twists with the rod or doing very tiny whips when you’re going downhill? On the root pass.
130 amps!!!!!!!!! That’s insane!!!
I'm wondering if that's still with 1/8 or if switched to a 5/32.
Bill Cyrus yeah me too!!!
it is with an 1/8" rod that's what made it so crazy fast and hot.
@@JacobSchofield Yeah that is hot for 1/8th! to be honest I did'nt know it was possible to rout at that heat!
I’m just starting out, and I learned that the larger gap is always at the bottom because it will close up.
When you run down hill it’s the opposite if you are running uphill
7016 root with 7018/8018 cap?
I met a friendly welder in Alaska at north pole refinery with a southern accent in about 1992? and I asked him what his name was ,he said "Dallas Houston."I said Where you from Dallas?He said Houston Texas.So if you are out there Dallas Houston here is a howdee ta ya!True Story.Good welder too.
what was the amp range on the welding procedure? min and max?
I dont know he just kept saying to cold to cold to cold and by the time I hit where he quit talking I was at 130. so 130 min.
Jacob Schofield hahaha that’s definitely an unpleasant surprise! Much love from Alberta be blessed.
JS, why dont you scribe the fit-up? Set a compass for the widest gap and mark it around the joint.
Could you elaborate what you are talking about?
@@michaelbarnhill2685 In woodworking, sometimes you need to fit a board to something uneven, like a tile floor or a stone fireplace. So you put everything in place, sort of a dry fit. Then, set a pair of dividers or compass to the largest gap between the board and the uneven surface. Now, trace along the uneven surface, marking it onto the board. Basically, you're tracing the shape you want onto the board. Check out this video, starting around 6:30 czcams.com/video/zKDCULxeYnQ/video.html
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