TWO UP RIDING on a Can Am Ryker
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
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*CORRECTION: Maximum weight limit for the 600 and 900 = 449 lbs or 204 kg
Maximum weight limit for the RALLY is: 438 lbs or 199 kg
Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
Chapters below
Collaborative video with Zia from Knight Ryker
0:00 Welcome to Ryker Rydes
4:30 First reactions as a passenger
12:18 Thoughts as a rider as Zia becomes my passenger
15:24 Zia, Brian and I discuss our experiences riding 2 up
17:50 How does riding 2up feel when you've exceeded the bikes weight limit
19:55 UGH spelling mistake. Should be "know" your limits not "no"! Oops, sorry!
20:33 Summary
Passenger seat: can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/en/...
Passenger short rail backrest: can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/en/...
Foldable backrest: can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/en/...
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Love that you two collaborated! Great video and great perspective of riding with a passenger. 😊
Glad you enjoyed it! Hopefully more to come!
Great Video. Just finished watching both videos. Y'all are great and i enjoy the content Y'all bring. Keep up the great videos. Im always waiting for both y'alls videos! Thanks!!
Thank you! Will do! I really appreciate the comment!
Great video! Try wife and I are making the transition from two wheels to three and this really helps us make decisions. Thanks again!
Glad it was helpful!
Two of my FAVORITE RYKER People!!!
Awww thanks so much!
Thanks Deidre.
Lots of good info. Thank you both
My absolute pleasure!
Thank you for watching.
Hi Beth,
This is the definitive CZcams video on 2 up Ryker riding. Beautifully produced, loved the split screen. Your commentary while riding seemed to be more positive than your summary about 2 up Ryker riding at the end. Your Ryker has the Baja Ron swaybar which is rumored to be better for the passenger in turns and higher up than the BRP swaybar Zia had installed. Also a man as a passenger changes the center of mass more than a lighter woman which might make the handling less stable. When we had a 2017 Spyder RT my wife had a passenger seatbelt for safety. I know on 2 wheels a seatbelt is not recommended but a trike corners more like a car and have heard of one wife who could get lighthearted sometimes, and might fall over as a passenger. Top notch video as always and enjoy the collaboration with Zia who is also on my A list of ryker reviewers.
John thanks for the stellar review and great insight on your experiences. Much appreciated!
Awesome video fellow Ryker Rally 900 in California! 😁 The best video yet!!!👌 I have full set up on my ride, I appreciate the video to show my family and friends!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and ride safe!
I watched your other video yesterday. Great perspective. As I stated, I think the 1330 would be best for me and my wife. We ride together a lot! Plus we ride with other couples too. Don’t own one yet but maybe next ridding season here in the burbs of Chicago!! Burrrr, it gets pretty cool here in the winter and my wife won’t want to ride unless it’s warm out. Can’t blame her. When I was a newer ridder I would bundle up and fight the cold, after I had a few years under my belt, I became soft and wouldn’t ride much in the cold! I just turned 60 and have been on 2 wheels just about my whole life. The block I grew up on was a dead end unincorporated street so even as a kid I could and would ride on our block. Almost never saw cops in my unincorporated area!
I love that you and your wife ride together!! I agree a Spyder is probably the way to go!
Got my my new 2020 Ryker last week and was waiting for over what seems an eternity to pick up at the dealership, in the meantime I've watched many and then some videos about the bike? trike? and especially from the two of you so when this upcoming video popped up WOW! I'm excited!
A big fan
Al
That’s awesome!!! Congratulations on your new bike!!! Let the good times roll!!!! Stay safe!
Nice! Be safe and Enjoy! Ryker Dude here!
Thanks Ryker Dude!!
The knob on the rear shock is for comfort. To ride two up you have to get the adjustment tool to add preload to the rear spring. I max mine out.
Good tip! But I do believe Zia has his maxed out.
Even though the Ryker offers optional seating for a passenger, it's really not meant to carry one in much comfort. Talked with several folks at more than one dealership about this exact thing. It's pretty much just to sell more bits and bobs. It will do it but just not really made for that. The Ryker is akin to a bobber style motorcycle in this sense. The red rebound control setting on the right side is not near as important as the preload setting on the shock itself. The preload should be set most of the way, if not all the way out, to the stiffest setting. This will control bottoming out when a passenger first sits down. The rebound should be set to 3 or 4 with a passenger. Per the manual, due to the way the Ryker handles and shifts riders to the outside of a turn, definitely use the grips and don't hold on to the rider. Basically if you plan on carrying a passenger often, trade up to an F3 or Spyder RT. Great topic and video.
I 100% agree with everything you said. I actually returned my passenger seat a while back. Solo for me!
Thank you. Just bought a used 2019 Rally and the fronts were set to 3 and I was a little concerned that was too high but I looked at a new one on the floor and it wAs also set to 3. So I guess that is where the factory thinks they should be.
Tweak it and see which setting works best for you! Stay healthy, ride safe!
Finally got to watch live ! 6 am in New Zealand 🇳🇿 Kiwi RykeR
Hi Kiwi Ryker!!! Happy to "see" you!
Great info. Seems like the general feeling is the seat is great for taking the kids out, but so much for adults. For those of us in the "Brian" weight class, it is definitely a solo bike.
I tend to agree. PS I have not heard from Brian since making this video. Hmmm.
That was interesting to hear the passengers point of view on a Ryker.
Thanks Tom! I always appreciate you watching and your comments. Stay well and ride safe!
Hello! I enjoy both of your channels, thank you for all the great content. I would like to offer some clarification of the shock adjustment for the ryker 900 rally edition direct from the manual. For 2up riding the spring pre-load adjustment (the 2 large notched rings on the front of the rear shock) should be 7/16 to 5/8 up from the snap ring, This adjusts how firm the ride is. The high speed compression damping control (red) knob changes how the shock reacts to high suspension velocity, in most cases, at higher speed and should be set between 2-4 for 2up. I caught a glimpse of your preload and it looks about right for 2up so maybe you want to consider easing it back for just yourself. Thanks again!
Thank you so much for your feedback and clarification, it is very appreciated.
Ima try being a passenger too. Got a comfort seat for my passenger. Good to see how they will feel. Great work 👏 👍 👌
Thanks William! I hope you are doing well!
@@RykerRydes I sure am. Thank God in these crazy times. Hope you and your family is doing well also! Stay safe out there!
I asked my wife if she wanted to be a passenger. The answer was, not gonna happen captain or some other colorful phrasing. Really enjoyed the video!
Lol! I agree with her!
Great video! I’m not sure I would want to ride with a passenger. Tim and I would definitely exceed the weight limit. 😁
Poor Tim!! LOL!
hi Beth, what gopro rig are you using?
Thanks for sharing making these videos and your adventures. keep them coming!
Thanks so much Dale! I use a Gopro 7. I also shoot a lot with my iPhone.
Great video. Liked and subbed.
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks Beth (and Zia and Brian) - watched both vids. The max weight limit is really 330 lbs??? I thought it was supposed to be 430 lbs. Saw another CZcams Ryker rider with his wife and they combined were approaching (or over) that 430 pound mark. Luckily I got a little time before my purchase (class in a week), but y'all got me thinking about the F3 again. Don't know that I'll frequently have a passenger, but if/when I do, they should be comfortable enough. Appreciate you all posting, love the collab effort.
Keith, thank you for bringing the maximum weight question up. I got my number off of google instead of the manual. (Lesson learned)
Here is the correct info:
Maximum weight limit for the 600 and 900 = 449 lbs or 204 kg
Maximum weight limit for the RALLY is: 438 lbs or 199 kg
Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
@@RykerRydes good deal Beth, thanks for the follow-up and conformation. Those numbers sound more like what my research had been turning up. No worries on confusion, just one of the many questions that you've now provided for us. You're getting closer to 'Oracle' status...:-)
Question. I have a Ryker rally. I noticed the little red knob setting has 1-4. Some people are recommending to use a spanner wrench to tighten the suspension. Since the rally has the red knob already does that replace needing the spanner wrench?
Hi Blake. I hope this helps:
The large nut around the top of the spring/shock is for “preloading”. This does not make the ride stiffer. It simply compresses the spring so that it takes more weight to compress it. It will adjust the “sag”. That is the difference in the height of the bike from before you sit on it and after you sit on it. The preload compensates for extra weight on the bike: more weight, more preload.”
The Rally also has a red knob for compression/rebound setting. This controls how fast the shock reacts to bumps in the road. A low setting lets the shock “float” over bumps and can make the bike feel “loose or bouncy”. A higher setting allows the shock to react slower to the bumps and can result in the bike feeling more firmly planted on the road.
There is no specific setting for either. The rider needs to get a feel for the settings based on their particular weight and riding style.
Have an awesome day and thanks for watching and subscribing!
With the 600, the stock rear shock is fine for me and my wife. I set the rear shock to 4, and I just leave it there. It is stiff and sporty with just me, and feels great 2 up.
That’s awesome! Sometimes it takes a little tweaking to get the settings just right for you.
Do you mind me asking how much you and your wife weigh? I’m thinking about doing some occasional 2-up on the Ryker I’m looking to get as well.
I’m halfway through the video and can I just say what a fantastic idea you guys have come up with for this collaboration 👌🏻. The way you get to see both perspectives is brilliant. Absolutely spot on Beth. The bit about your weight was hilarious by the way 🤣. Ryde Safe Little Sis 🙏🏻😎🏴
Awwww thanks George!!
I love you’re jacket! Where do you buy it??
Bohn Armor. I have a couple of videos on her products (which have coupon codes). Happy shopping!
been looking at the ryker long time now, see more and more things i like about it. Guess i virtually spend more on lights , seats, bags, the trike would cost me. But big minus i see, the milage...my late 70's buggy did better . And the ground clearance, i fear i might bottom out on each speed bump here. Unless the spec measures the clearance without the wheels?
Hi! Thanks for watching. Maybe this video will help you..
czcams.com/video/l71BoaWStlU/video.html
What preload are the front shocks set to, and have you ever tried to change them?
Fred the front shocks and the rear shocks are set at the highest settings and I just left it there.
I found that you lost a lot of power with two people. It seems the engine definitely takes some of the torque out and limited upper end speed as well acceleration throughout. But you're right, turning and braking def takes a good bit more work and consideration of the passenger on the back. I've gone over speed bumps with someone around 200 on the back and you def bottom out even at max setting with the better spring. Mind you I'm 170 myself, so total weight was around 370.
I totally agree. It seems like riding 2 up has a few challenges. I prefer riding solo.
Hi how would a passenger ride without the foot pegs?do I need foot pegs for them
You absolutely need foot pegs. If you buy the second seat from canam, it comes with foot pegs.
Thanks for this. I’ve watched all ur vids and I was thinking the same thing when u said it felt weird holding on to a man ur not married to. Haha
Hey Raymond! Thanks for watching, very appreciated!
What is, both of your opinions, of the stock passenger seat comfort?
Hi! I found the seat itself very comfortable. I do like the look of matching seats. So if you have an upgraded seat, then it looks good with the upgraded passenger seat to match. Just my opinion. But as far as comfort....stock worked great for me.
The stock seat is great for short runs. I think the passenger seat is a bit less comfortable than the rider seat but only because it’s narrower. The comfort seat would be better if you go on longer day rides but my first mod would be upgraded shocks for 2 up riding.
If you are riding 2 up where do you find passenger foot rest?
The foot pegs come with the passenger seat. If you’re buying an aftermarket seats, then you will need to buy the foot pegs separately.
I read the max weight was 330lbs on the 6 and 900 ryker. What's your opinion
Maximum weight limit for the 600 and 900 = 449 lbs or 204 kg
Maximum weight limit for the RALLY is: 438 lbs or 199 kg
@@RykerRydes that's what I thought but when I looked it up it said 330lbs? Which is true?
Thanks for the beginning part. Censored. LoL
You noticed!!!! LOL
Lol she was flllllllllying down that road
👍🏿
what happens to be your top speed with both ryders??
Here’s mine:
How Fast Can the Cam Am Ryker do on the Highway (106 mph)?
czcams.com/video/gMwF8WEAbro/video.html
How’s his comfort drivers seat?
Honestly, didn't pay attention. So not sure.
Is that the 600cc or 900cc ?
I am riding 2 up on a 900 Rally
I think after a couple hours, I bet your arms would be wore out. I think a passenger on a two wheel bike is more comfortable because they don’t feel side forces in curves.
You could be absolutely right.
Interesting point of view!
Great video !! we bought our Ryker last year (after 40.000 miles on Spyders) - my girl wanted a lower/wider cushion direct on the max-mount and a softer backrest on the GIVI topcase - now its perfect for 2up and luggage (16.000 miles now) . - but the weight of the Ryker 900 is 700 lbs if the tank is full - so you can add only 400 lbs (we have weighed her !) - also with the FOX shock on the back you need a "spring travel limiter" if you have the fender of the 900 Ace ..czcams.com/video/I-kbtm6JEV8/video.html
Thanks for the sharing the information and video from Austria!! Sooooo cool!
I’ll be darn.
PS spelling error. wife gets lightheaded not lighthearted.. although maybe both at our age...
I like lighthearted better! lol
Whenever I ride my wife on mines I put it on 4 so we will not bottom out.
Great tip!
I think not wanting to hold on to the man was the reason you felt uncomfortable on turns.
Could be!