Carbon Fiber Tail Booms

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  • čas přidán 28. 01. 2016
  • Parts links below (valid 1/16):
    RadicalRC:
    Round CF tubing: www.radicalrc.com/category/Car...
    Square/square tubing: www.radicalrc.com/category/Car...
    Music wire pushrods: www.radicalrc.com/category/Pus...
    Home Depot:
    3M Heavy Duty Mounting Tape: www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Scotch-... (large rolls also available)
    Corner guard 1 1/8": www.homedepot.com/p/Trimaco-1-...
    Corner guard 5/8": www.homedepot.com/p/Trimaco-5-...
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Komentáře • 102

  • @eternalfire1244
    @eternalfire1244 Před 8 lety +21

    Between you and the Flite Test forums my scratch building has progressed way further than I could have ever dreamed. Loved these ideas and for sure I will be implementing some of them on my next builds.
    Keep up the awesome videos. :)

  • @robaust3049
    @robaust3049 Před 8 lety +1

    Hi Ed, great to see you back. Nice practical approach to the use of the booms and can't wait for more details on the discuss. Love the pull/pull.

  • @84npor
    @84npor Před 8 lety +2

    Great video Ed. Glad with your return. I was missing your videos.

  • @alcoxy
    @alcoxy Před 8 lety +1

    Good to see someone doing a video on ideas for connecting CF tubing. Often a difficult situation.

  • @Bulgie
    @Bulgie Před 8 lety +1

    Ed, good to see you posting valuable videos again. Thank you. We never got to fly together before you left AZ...Hope you're settled in VA and ready to make more videos!

  • @ericnielsen9574
    @ericnielsen9574 Před 8 lety +3

    I know the Experimental Airlines designs have always been about cheap or free materials and ease of construction. Ed, you got me back into the hobby with your building techniques, Thank you. I picked up a cheap 3d printer and have been using it to create servo mounts and tail adaptors similar to your corner molding. Not everyone has access to the 3D printing and your methods are wonderful. 3D printers have come down to the "affordable" realm and fit into this hobby well. If you do have access to 3D printing, I recommend giving it a try. It's been fun learning the cad software and actually fabricating custom parts for individual tasks. Keep the videos coming and thanks again!

  • @richardmurray6477
    @richardmurray6477 Před 8 lety

    Ed, You da man! Thanks for figuring out the carbon fiber rod stuff. Nicely done. I like the corner guard and aluminum angle usage. I think you nailed a whole new Experimental Airlines design series!!! Cheers

  • @chinookmech
    @chinookmech Před 8 lety

    I'm glad your are back Ed...the ideas are stacking up

  • @dfo105055
    @dfo105055 Před 5 lety +1

    Very very nice.
    I love to tinker in my garage with the crashed plane parts and the material that I find commonly around the hardware store is a positive challenging to me.
    Thanks for the info.

  • @roscocsa
    @roscocsa Před 8 lety

    Awesome to see you back!

  • @greedyg76
    @greedyg76 Před 8 lety

    I've been using corner guards in my scratch builds for a long time - great stuff!

  • @danogle9927
    @danogle9927 Před 8 lety

    Excellent video Ed.Good info.( glad your back up and running )

  • @Martin-mz9ne
    @Martin-mz9ne Před 8 lety

    Always new idea. Great vid, Ed. Thanks for sharing!

  • @luispozas6191
    @luispozas6191 Před 8 lety

    Thank you for all the good ideas!

  • @alejandroa.menyhart5346

    Marvelous! This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much, dear Sir.

  • @microflite
    @microflite Před 5 lety +1

    Excellent video! Thanks for the great ideas!

  • @sailorjohn2224
    @sailorjohn2224 Před 8 lety

    Appreciate the fine example of displaying the required FAA registration number plus the AMA number indicating financial responsibility .

  • @donwall7906
    @donwall7906 Před 2 lety

    Thank you. This is a very well presented vid by someone with engineering orientation and technical communication skills. It works for me!

  • @donwall7906
    @donwall7906 Před 2 lety

    Very well presented. Excellent ideas illustrated. Thank you.

  • @cynr100
    @cynr100 Před 8 lety

    Thanks Ed, the info is very informative and greatly appreciated. You are making this hobby simpler and simpler, did I say how much you are appreciated, think I did but just in case I'll say it again, thankyou :-)

  • @barrosnpor
    @barrosnpor Před 8 lety

    Awesome man!! just learnirg a lot here!! Keep on going!

  • @VTOLKits
    @VTOLKits Před 8 lety

    You have very good ideas ! Thanks for the video.

  • @JonathanTaulbee
    @JonathanTaulbee Před 7 lety

    these are awesome sir!
    candidate wait to give it a try!

  • @liamcoddington5712
    @liamcoddington5712 Před 8 lety

    I used your techniques on my first scratch build... and it flies better than my apprentice.
    thanks

  • @StaffordAllan
    @StaffordAllan Před 8 lety

    Hi Ed -
    Another great video. I'd really love to see your complete DLG design. It's an area that I'd like to explore, and I'd be happiest getting started at least with a scratch built rather than very expensive purchased glider.

  • @mlkalr3b1
    @mlkalr3b1 Před 8 lety

    it nice to see you again

  • @StephenTack
    @StephenTack Před 8 lety

    Elegant solutions, sir!

  • @chrissorlie6497
    @chrissorlie6497 Před 3 lety

    Fantastic engineering!!!! Thank you so much !!!

  • @andrewmcphee8965
    @andrewmcphee8965 Před 5 lety

    Hi Ed, this video inspired me to build a cf stick plane based on some of your ideas mentioned here. I've just maidened it, needs some fine tuning. But I'll post a link to details about it later.

  • @grahamrdyer6322
    @grahamrdyer6322 Před 8 lety

    I'm not a convert to carbon tubes, they seem to twist to much, but you did have some (quite a lot) of idea's that I will put in to practice, Thanks Ed for putting this up.

  • @robh9079
    @robh9079 Před 8 lety

    great vid - using a 10mm boom I have put my servos up front in the fuz, run the snake tubes down the middle of the boom, and drilled exits near the end - the reduced strength compensated by a 1/32 ply tail 'tray'. I really like the reusability and disassembly of your system though.

  • @jacobjhogan
    @jacobjhogan Před 8 lety +2

    Thanks Ed,
    I'd like to learn more about your discus launch glider. I've been wanting one but they're so expensive.

  • @lasersbee
    @lasersbee Před 8 lety +5

    Some great ideas on attaching those CF tubes. Would have liked
    to see some of those designs in the air.

    • @ExperimentalAirlines
      @ExperimentalAirlines  Před 8 lety +4

      +lasersbee I wish too. Here's the bummer: I'm reduced to videoing with my iPhone, having gradually killed off all my proper video cameras. Once I re-acquire a camera with zoom, I will make it right with the flying videos.

    • @lasersbee
      @lasersbee Před 8 lety +1

      +ExperimentalAirlines I hear you... Sounds like a plan

    • @Trainmaster1907
      @Trainmaster1907 Před 8 lety

      +ExperimentalAirlines peter from flite test worked there

  • @johanneslugt2951
    @johanneslugt2951 Před 3 lety

    Great video! Will definitely try it. Thank you.

  • @hound696
    @hound696 Před 8 lety

    Awesome job!

  • @JamesManimal
    @JamesManimal Před 4 lety

    thank you for the details!

  • @snaprollinpitts
    @snaprollinpitts Před 8 lety

    nice tutorial, thanks Ed!!!

  • @calvintraviserickson
    @calvintraviserickson Před 8 lety

    Genius engineering sir. I know what i'm building when this snow melts.

  • @deanedeane4318
    @deanedeane4318 Před rokem

    Thankyou for sharing your great ideas 😉😎

  • @cjbubeck
    @cjbubeck Před 8 lety

    Great video Ed. Thanks.
    Any ideas on how to work with the plastic corner bead material? Does it have to be heated in order to bend without breaking or splintering; and the best way to make clean cuts?

  • @miodice3
    @miodice3 Před 8 lety

    Awesome tips thank you!!!

  • @felixFPVDrone
    @felixFPVDrone Před 8 lety

    Great information!!!

  • @kabturek
    @kabturek Před 8 lety +1

    You can also use plywood for the joining plate

  • @waleswideman1
    @waleswideman1 Před 7 lety

    i attach the tail boom to the fusolodge with a installation foam block by drilling a hole and glueing the spar in it. then sliding the blick in the rear of the fusolodge rock solid without cf

  • @mwalton7951
    @mwalton7951 Před 8 lety

    Beautiful

  • @ddegn
    @ddegn Před 3 lety

    Have you made the jump to 3D printing yet? I finally did myself and it's extremely useful for making mounting hardware. Thanks for all the fun videos you've shared.

  • @rva1945
    @rva1945 Před 3 lety

    You saved my day!

  • @christianjonatasgrosch9518

    Great, thank you!

  • @walterdennisclark
    @walterdennisclark Před 4 lety

    One advantage of using double stick tape in construction is that it can be removed with alcohol. It's messy but repair is easier when major components are assembled as you have done this way.

  • @mdriyasatali
    @mdriyasatali Před 4 lety

    Very nice

  • @burtisaac1000
    @burtisaac1000 Před 2 lety

    Awesome 😎!

  • @Side85Winder
    @Side85Winder Před 8 lety

    Have you tried a V-tail design plane the corner guard would be perfect for making a V-tail design.

  • @MyBigThing2010
    @MyBigThing2010 Před 7 lety

    You could just drill a hole through the plate and the tube and drop in a pin AND that would stop rotation and new way more reliable than glue. Also you can reuse the tube without having a glue mess on it.

  • @robertwioch3691
    @robertwioch3691 Před 8 lety

    Hello I would like to know how you made your Fuselage for this Video! I want to try to make this. Could you help me out. Thanks. I love all your video's #1 nice. your good at this!

  • @MickB235
    @MickB235 Před 8 lety

    Do you find any signal interference because of the carbon fibre?

  • @joewoodchuck3824
    @joewoodchuck3824 Před 5 lety

    How does pricing compare to store bought arrows? Im using aluminum arrows from walmart btw. Sometimes i can even make use of the 8-32 threaded insert where the head screws in.

  • @geodezix
    @geodezix Před 8 lety +2

    Try inserting the 8 mm tube in several inches of a 10 mm square tube (it's a perfect fit) with some hot glue. That gives you a flat surface to attach plate or fuselage.

  • @tariqyounus3880
    @tariqyounus3880 Před 2 lety

    Very nice video.
    Could pls guide how to make 1.5 m
    DLG GLIDER ?
    Because carbon fiber DLG GLIDER are very very expensive .
    Hope u make some good video how to foamy DLG GLIDER

  • @lachlanharrigan6781
    @lachlanharrigan6781 Před 8 lety

    Would this work well on an axon?

  • @gfortiz5544
    @gfortiz5544 Před 7 lety

    If I may ask what dia. Push rods do you use?

  • @jerrellthieke87
    @jerrellthieke87 Před 7 lety

    wouldn't it be easier to use the square carbon fiber tube?

  • @Raj_yadav582
    @Raj_yadav582 Před 5 lety

    those are, how many design tails

  • @javieruriel
    @javieruriel Před 6 lety

    It is safe to work with fg?

  • @Abderrahmane_Aitouche
    @Abderrahmane_Aitouche Před 4 lety +1

    Y'a t-il une place avec vous ?
    Dans votre valeureuse baraque

  • @sidhvin12
    @sidhvin12 Před 8 lety

    I'd like to know if there was any yaw effect because of the offset position of the vertical stabilizer.

    • @ExperimentalAirlines
      @ExperimentalAirlines  Před 8 lety

      +Sidhvin DM No discernible difference in flying, though I'm sure there is a tiny effect.

  • @esafonov
    @esafonov Před 7 lety

    What are the advantages of carbon fiber tail? I think carbon tube with its fastening - always has a bent in flight and tail hanging out and vibrates A box-shaped tail made of foam remains the best so far!

  • @mikewofford2198
    @mikewofford2198 Před rokem

    What kind of plastic are you using

  • @RcBuddy
    @RcBuddy Před 8 lety

    Nice video, and good ideas.
    Tip: you (and we) would be having great benefits from owning a 3D printer for your designs ;o)

  • @michaelnichols1977
    @michaelnichols1977 Před 5 lety

    Whoa, I don't know how I found you. But, thanks for sharing. I've been looking at glider types for a bit and this looks like a great opportunity as a diy project instead

  • @redtale6527
    @redtale6527 Před 7 lety

    I found these Chinese carbon fiber fishing poles off ebay are a cheap source of carbon fiber tubing. The lengh of the section

  • @user-gp9kb7tv3u
    @user-gp9kb7tv3u Před 3 lety

    احسنت 🇰🇼a good knowledge

  • @OskarKopecky
    @OskarKopecky Před 4 lety

    What happened to your left hand??

  • @mr.k1177
    @mr.k1177 Před 7 lety

    I live in Arizona and it seen like you too. Is there a chance I can build my first plane with you. I can pay for the hour if you want. Please and thank you.

  • @TFWS6
    @TFWS6 Před 8 lety

    Drill two holes and then cut into the holes from the end. Much cleaner looking and stronger.

    • @TFWS6
      @TFWS6 Před 8 lety

      If you don't have the equipment to make a good looking cut like he does that is.

  • @Abderrahmane_Aitouche
    @Abderrahmane_Aitouche Před 4 lety +1

    [ Bravo [ l'ingénieur .

  • @WhatisTabal
    @WhatisTabal Před 7 lety +1

    how about assembling a V tail on a small carbon tail boom??

    • @pawanv86
      @pawanv86 Před 7 lety

      Chad Gacs you could use the L shaped plastic at a 45 degree angle.

    • @pawanv86
      @pawanv86 Před 7 lety

      Chad Gacs you could use the L shaped plastic at a 45 degree angle.

    • @WhatisTabal
      @WhatisTabal Před 7 lety

      the design is a 100 degree angle for the V tail.

    • @pawanv86
      @pawanv86 Před 7 lety +1

      Heat the plastic with a hotairgun and bend it to about 100-110 degrees and finally EPOXY the carbonfiber right at the vertex of the "V". Remember to sand the carbonfiber at the end or else it wont bond properly.

  • @seanpaula8924
    @seanpaula8924 Před 8 lety +1

    Hmm....interesting :)

  • @bobbarker1667
    @bobbarker1667 Před 8 lety +5

    your really awsome wish u were my dad

  • @spencerboaz2385
    @spencerboaz2385 Před 7 lety

    The guys at Flight Test and Andrew Newton and your site are my go to sites . I love all your sites as I am a bit new to planes and you guys have the best build videos . I have noticed all of you bend a lot of plastic of all kinds . This is a tool I use for that and if you don't have one you may want to take a look .
    www.harborfreight.com/plastic-welding-kit-with-air-motor-and-temperature-adjustment-96712.html

  • @johnnyllooddte3415
    @johnnyllooddte3415 Před 8 lety

    way toooo complicated for me..,,,duct tape

  • @DallusDaPwnage
    @DallusDaPwnage Před 8 lety

    Way to expensive for shipping to Australia, I'll stick to ebay

  • @RoboTekno
    @RoboTekno Před 8 lety +1

    7:50 You should probably block your FAA number in videos.

  • @ExtraFungus
    @ExtraFungus Před 8 lety

    Faa Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, section 336.
    You've been fooled by the FAA.

    • @ExperimentalAirlines
      @ExperimentalAirlines  Před 8 lety +2

      +Josh Bishop Better I have my stupid little sticker in case Johnny Law shows up at the field and fight the conflict with the 2012 law in court. Just playing the game.

    • @ExtraFungus
      @ExtraFungus Před 8 lety +2

      +ExperimentalAirlines Your right, it will save you some hardship, but should you go through the hardship, you'd be able to cash in. It's only a matter of time before the FAA gets slapped with a massive suit from someone who is fined or arrested, the FAA won't win.
      Obviously not everyone would want to go through that kind of disruption in their life but the first one to do it will be doing the rest of the hobby a huge favor.
      I plan on printing out section 336 and putting it on my aircraft but at the same time I chose where I fly carefully and avoid attention.

    • @MrSilverback62
      @MrSilverback62 Před 8 lety

      +ExperimentalAirlines Some battles are worth fighting. This ain't one. Ham radio has far more hurdles and restrictions. The sheer number of pilots (including a tiny subset of fools) makes some form of testing and licensing almost inevitable.

    • @ExtraFungus
      @ExtraFungus Před 8 lety

      +Chuckles a the regulation needed to happen but the FAA doesn't have the authority. This is absolutely a battle worth fighting, it goes much deeper than whether it should or shouldn't happen. Law breaking is law breaking, the FAA isn't exempt because they failed at enforcing pre-existing laws.

  • @robertojames7904
    @robertojames7904 Před 5 lety

    All I can say is GET A 3D PRINTER!!!! Printing small attachment fixtures to transition from carbon fiber tubing to foam components would require only a small printer and they're getting less expensive and better every day. The possibilities are endless. Once you invest a little time using a free CAD program to design the part, you can print the component while you do something else. Three D printing is slow, but pretty much something which doesn't require a great deal of attention. Then it's a matter of assembly along with a spot of adhesive and, bingo, you're done. The act of "fabrication", which includes layout, cutting, sanding, and custom fitting is all but eliminated. Keep in mind that duplicating a design using the techniques called out in this video means that you're starting all over again with the same tedious cutting, sanding, and fitting routine. With 3D printed transition components, you simply print a new part. The design work is already done. Or, even better, print a spare part or two at the same time you make the first one. You gain a great deal from the standpoint of aerodynamics, weight savings, ease of assembly, accuracy of alignment, strength, appearance, and just about every other design consideration you can think of.