How to Make Anything Out of Carbon Fiber.
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Just wanted to help! Aluminum and carbon fiber touching will cause galvanic corrosion. Anodize or coat the aluminum with something. Ultimately the part will fail because of the galvanic corrosion. Hope this helps! Love your channel and your a rock star with engineering💪🏼
Another good way used in aircraft construction is to wrap the metal part in low weight glass fiber. That will prevent the galvanic corrosion.
In the automotive world, they are bonding CF tubes to raw aluminum yokes and rating them for 5000hp+.
Edit, just looked it up. Apparently the CF driveshafts seal off the bonded area from atmosphere so it’s a none-factor.
@@justRD1 Now that is an interesting detail I hadn't heard before.
@@justRD1 5000+ hp, so I expect racing where you don't need the part to survive many years and many cycles. You need it to get you through the race/season. There is a galvanic potencial difference between these materials. The corrosion will come.
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Awesome video. I've been curious about carbon fiber.
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Cheaper alternative, fiberglass. It doesn't look as cool, but it can be very strong too.
Regarding the cost of Carbon Fiber. The carbon fiber itself is like buying any other fabric... by the yard. You can buy as little or as much as you need. Think about it this way, you can make a part as strong as steel, as light as plastic, and all without the skills or cost of CNC, a welder, etc. If you can use a pair of scissors you can make it. That is amazing to me. I think its great for DIYers and the budget. Also please try out the sponsor as that really helps the channel. You will get 10% off your first order with Fictiv - bit.ly/3YOmVzF. Use Coupon code: Fielding
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You shouldn't lay carbon fiber directly onto metal, carbon fiber conducts electricity and if it is bonded to metal can create galvanic corrosion especially if the part is likely to come into contact with moisture like on a boat, car or motorcycle.
A way to stop this happening is to put a thin layer of fiberglass as a barrier between the carbon fiber and the metal part.
Carbon Fiber, especially Epoxy Resin, needs an oven and pressurisation to reach the advertised strength. The reason the biggest Steel Ships are much bigger than the biggest Fiberglass ships is simply because the cost and complexity of the assembly outweighs the production in steel by an unreasonable margin.
For casual applications it's fine, buy you can't make full car chassis with it, for example.
I have been 3D printing for years and never thought about the concept of external model vs internal model stress. Great explanation - makes a lot of sense.
Hi Jeremy, a few points:
- For safety I was told that you should always use a respirator and/or work in a well ventilated area when dealing with epoxy resins. It isn't an issue immediately but a professor of mine who built composite aircraft as a hobby mentioned that the long term buildup of vapors is detrimental and proper PPE / ESC should be used when regularly working with epoxy composites.
- Another cool feature of the more textured peel-ply is that it leaves the cured surface ready for bonding with other composite parts. If you wanted to add more material or join two already cured parts that peel-ply saves you the effort of prepping the surfaces for more binder material.
- You kind of touched on this but in addition to weave patterns being able to affect the directional strength of the composite, you can also stack multiple layers of different weaves to 1) provide more thickness = more cross-sectional area in a classic bending load = higher strength and
2) have multiple directions in which the stands are aligned with. If you know the forces the part is expecting, you can have most of your layers supporting that situation but other layers aligned to resist torsional forces. The example I would go to is with the checkerboard weave, you can offset a layer by 45 degrees to get more overall strength and stiffness.
Very cool video!
Epoxy fumes are bad. So is any broken off material/dust from working with carbon fiber or fiber glass.
Maybe I've been doing it wrong for the last couple of decades, but peel ply needs sanding. If you don't the failure is likely to be between these surfaces.
You don't need a respirator during layup. Epoxy resin and hardener has very low vapor pressure. Most people do not worry about the vapor when doing layup with wet epoxy. The biggest danger is getting it on your skin or eyes. Over time you can develop a sensitivity to the resin or hardener or both. Once that happens you will probably not be able to work with epoxy any more. Also, some of the hardeners, in particular, can do fairly immediate damage to your eyes. So I would suggest that you should wear gloves and glasses and a plastic face shield. The respirator is really not needed or is much less important than the other PPE. Now, when sanding epoxy, especially if it is not fully cured (less than 7 days for room temperature cure), you should definitely use a particle respirator or dust mask. And if you ever spray it then you need absolutely state of the art protection because it is very bad to breathe in the uncured epoxy aerosols. But for wet layup with brushes, not so much.
Peel ply has release agent in it. When you remove it, some pieces of the peel ply remain on the work piece. According to the experts, it is best to sand the surface lightly after removing peel ply if you need a good bond. There are some peel plys with no release agent. But if you are not sure, then it is best to sand.
@@EricBrummer Great advice. Bis A epoxies are 100% solids and the fumes are not all that toxic. However, the cleanup solvents are, and your point about the fibers is completely correct. If using vinyl and poly ester resins, masks are really crucial. I have worked with composites for about 30 years, and I never work without a full face respirator rated at P-100 for Organic vapors, I add little pink dust catchers to the filters because they catch the big chunks.
@@imusuallycorrect An indeed you are. However there are some no sanding textured peel plies that work great.
I love your sense of humor in the face of mistakes or problems. "If you don't learn your lesson the first time, apparently, two or three times is still not enough." 😂😂17:42
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I have been working in the composites field for several years and just wanted to talk about other materials as well :
- Glass Fiber - cheap, brittle (doesn't handle shocks or abrasion well), very light. Mostly used for boats.
- Carbon Fiber - medium priced, sensitive to abrasion but resistant to shocks, medium heavy. Mostly used for air-related pieces (speed cars, tuning, aeronautics, space)
- Titanium Fiber - high price, resistant to shocks and abrasion, quite heavy. Mostly high-standards pieces (aeronautics, space, some fine engineering stuff).
Yes, this basic hint is not a hard rule whatshowever because you can use different weave patterns (as described very well in the video), use different layers with different materials, mixed meshes and so on... I just mentioned it to give a general hint for the viewers.
Choose your fiber materials according to the project you are making. Once you understand how it works, everything will be simpler. Multi-layer is also possible but harder for beginners as you have to deal with multiple constraints.
As explained briefly in this video, bubbles are your worst enemy, especially if you need uniform resistance on a surface.
Generally, the quicker the hardener, the hotter it will get, which can also have an effect on the mold you are using (deformation due to high heat).
The resin that you use can make a huge difference as well (UV-resistant, thermal range of use when finished, and so on...).
Please use masks, eye protection (specially if you sand it because it creates very tiny particles that can be very toxic for your lungs) and all the other protections you might find useful to protect yourself. The fibers are not that harmful but the particles and the vapours can be.
Thanks you for the video, I really enjoy people talking about this subject, as it is indeed very interesting.
Where does kevlar carbon fiber fit in this scale?
New viewer here and I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your approach and honesty about mistakes and the learning process. Great work and I'll be watching more in the future!
Your enthusiasm for learning powered by curiosity is infectious. Your presentation style allows me to imagine we are best of friends, working together on projects of equal interest. Thank you Jeremy.
You have done a great favor to all the DIY with your channel . Thanks for sharing your experience, thaughts and professional advice and support! Much love from another Brother.
One of the problems I had designing and printing 3D plastic was getting fits to match measurements . After some experimentation I discovered that I need to think of all measurements in terms of 0.4 mm - nozzle size!- It made a big difference in fittings getting things to line up.
Yeah, I had that same issue when I first got into 3D printing and it took me a bit to figure out that when I was designing a part, I had to consider the printed line widths and overlaps to get the most dimensionally accurate part.
Not really true anymore with Arachne becoming the standard perimeter generator. With a .4 nozzle you can do down to .2mm lines and up to 1.2mm lines consistently, and the software uses that pretty well now.
also remember to account for shrinkage due to cooling of the 3d printed material
Thank you for being vulnerable and showing your learning journey! Seeing you face challenges, persevere, think and overcome is inspirational. As we oldies say down-under - ya blood's worth bottling.
Nice job and informative video. One thing you might want to be aware of if you're not already is "amine blush." When you're using epoxy it creates a shiny surface when it dries called blush. You need to wipe this down with warm water and a Brillo pad or Scotch-Brite before anything will properly adhere to it. You can actually see the shine disappear as you scrub it.
The blush comes off in the peel ply if you use peel ply. You may still need to sand after removing the peel ply, but the blush shouldn't be a problem.
I think this video illustrates a rather important and easy to overlook pitfall (that I fall into time and time again..): don't work to a deadline but to a result. The pressure of counting days unconsciously creates some sort of stress that ultimately makes everything take longer and cost more than a more relaxed approach.
For really complex curves, try cutting your cloth into triangles. That will allow for more a lot more flexibility. Also, you probably don't need to worry about it, but different hardeners (fast cure versus slow cure) can affect the final strength of the part. Not always, but something to check just to make sure.
You seem like you'd know, can you mix the hardener types for a medium set?
@@ChupaCabraThing Yes you can (I got that info directly from West Systems a number of years back). Also they have an Extra Slow Hardener (#209) in the series as well as a Clear Coat (#207) for final layers. I believe that with the exception of the Clear Coat, there is not a substantial difference in strength between the hardeners.
@@ChupaCabraThing I haven't, but some you can. You'd have to check the individual resins/hardeners. Any manufacturer would (should) have pretty much any info you'd need about that in their product literature. Typically, though, you'd just find the hardener that fit your need instead of mixing stuff.
I have seen sail boat masts made useing triangle cuts of carbon fabric in aluminium and bag moulds.
I have learned over 4+ decades of working, is that hardly any project is completed within budget, on time, or completely witin specifications. That is still an admirable goal, though!
You strike me as a genuine dude... definitely someone I’d trust.
Mistakes are incredibly instructive. Thank you for including them in your video.
For something like the knight, you should make a negative mold (probably in this case two or more parts is easiest for layup) and then polish the interior to a high level of finish so that you can layup the carbon fiber directly against it and get a perfectly smooth outer surface. The separate halves are then joined afterward and the seam can be polished smooth (especially since this piece is mostly decorative and doesn't require high strength).
That certainly sounds like a good approach. As you know I am new to this, so perhaps on the next one! The next decorative project that is LOL
And for something like the knight that's decorative and not weight critical you could use fiberglass instead of carbon fiber. Glass is much cheaper than carbon and similar or easier to work with.
If you haven't seen Mike Patey's videos from his "Scrappy" build, he is an absolute genius with carbon (and most everything else). You two would have a great time getting together. I know he mentioned corrosion issues when mixing aluminum and carbon in one of his videos as well.
I'm glad someone beat me to it! I would also recommend adding a thin layer of fiberglass between the aluminum and carbon fiber to eliminate the chance of corrosion between these materials.
This. Reach out to Mike Patey. He’s a carbon fiber guru.
I have wanted to do this for the longest time. I am so happy that you made this video. When I saw the title and that it was YOU, I thought, "this is going to work! Jeremy's videos are always very helpful and very useful. Thank You!
I love that you keep the hang ups, blunders and mistakes in your videos. It sheds light on the level of detail required and shows it can't happen right the first time every time. Keep up the great videos.
So glad to see you post a video on CZcams, your videos always help scratch an itch and make me want to try new things.
Also i would recommend using a 0.8 mm nozzle for multiday prints as 9/10 % of the time it will cut the printing time in half and wont effect the strength to the print exsepcaly since your carbine coating it.
I worte a comment asking about how big of a nozzle was Jeremy using but you sort of beat me to it. I think theres even 1.2 nozzles not sure if bigger. However for the printers he has I'm not sure if the heatblock would be able to handle that big of a nozle unless you drop the speed which it defeat the orpuse but it should be a good test going as big as the printer can handle in this particular case.
I have never seen your content before, but you seem so chill and genuine. Got a new sub for sure.
I was looking for a beginner CF video and was so happy when I saw it was a vid by you ranked first. I always learn the most from your videos.
One of the best DIY videos I've watched in my entire life.
This is the kind of video a normal person relates to. Followed the instructions, took care of everything, double checked (or at least believe you did check) and things go wrong. You've made a mistake. That's the value of the videos that shows the real situations, how to cope with it technically and psychologically. How to learn from your own errors. How to mature and overcome the frustration. How to proceed by pure will, by innovating, by luck. Finish the project and immediately think on what could be done better or what will be the next project.
Those videos full of happy paths when everything seems to work in the first try and breaking records, personals or not. They feel the normal guy think "it's too much for me".
By been courageous and showing and sharing your mistakes, by sharing your feelings about and thru the project, is what makes this video most valuable.
Congratulation on the job well done.
And 10 thousands of my best thank yous for sharing with us.
Awesome video. We can tell you love us because only a person truly in love would go after that level of complexity for their first carbon fiber layup, and do it on camera. Don't stress about getting content to us sir, we are not going anywhere.
Btw- I totally appreciate the realism of affixing things to the bench, etc., etc. That level of honesty is refreshing.
I just watched the first video on your channel. Amazing content, amazing engineer with a great personality! You’re an absolute asset to any team or company.
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I appreciate that you do leave in the mistakes. And point them out. I tend to be too hard on myself for mistakes.
Thanks for including all the mistakes in the video! I think those are the most valuable parts for DIY people because those always get your brain to work relative to your own projects.
Aways been fallowing your content and I admire your honesty.
Thank you for the video and all informations you provided!
Jeremey...Really glad to see another video! 85 views in TWO MINUTES!!!!
I am really enjoying this video! I strongly support your statement at the start where you say you're not an expert, but did some experiments and wanted to share your results. That's such a good attitude! I love it!
I really like your honesty about building things, every small failure is a learning opportunity!
Great content, thank you!
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Always enjoy your teaching and your infectious enthusiasm. Thank you
You are fabulous at explaining it at a very human level. Wonderful presentation. Thanks.
ADHD was going hard today until I saw this video and got hooked on watching your process. First time seeing your content. Subscribed.
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This is such a good video. It is good to show a great concept but also show the struggle to get proficient.
We all struggle at the beginning of learning a new skill sometimes. It can be a demoralizing phase of the learning process if it seems like I’m the only one who just isn’t “getting it”.
You rock. Thanks!!
Very cool. You’re never too old to learn a new skill. Thanks for sharing that journey with us.
Big hats off to you, for showing and highlighting all the mistakes in good and light hearted manner :)
It is hard to overcome the fear of failing and I think even more so than ever, when we're normally only spoon-fed the perfection of social media stories.
Always learning, thanks Jeremy!
You're great at learning and at teaching.
THIS! This is why I subscribed to your channel, Jeremy! Every mistake is education.
Knowing the few ways that work best is important, but knowing the many ways to fail is equally important.
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I love this guy’s honesty
I really enjoyed this video and I'm really inspired to try creating something in carbon fiber, which I never would have done on my own. Thanks for showing us all the issues that you ran into as it advances our knowledge base without the pain of going through it ourselves. I love this channel! Thanks Jeremy.
Love how your content is fast enough for people with knowledge already but also explains it to fast learners that are beginners.
The best Videos are where people show how they faild AND how they fixed it 👍 thats the best value anyone can get out of the videos about any project 😁
Excellent demonstration of the forces on a beam.
LOVE your videos! Thanks again for all the hard work that went into this!
You could use rubber membrane press or some sort of rubber sock arround the knight (those can press tight areas without wrinkles) and you could model holes into the knight so that epoxy would flow into the part. So you would not need any peel ply (silicone membranes are self releasing and you would have "dry" carbon), breather etc. You could also get a 3d printed part out of it to make it lighter by heating it up. Also try gluing carbon onto the part with car spray glue, then use silicone kitchen brush to wet it up (reusable) and then pull a vacuum and work epoxy inside the holes by hand (diy autoclave carbon). The mould could be done of hard wax to be mented out in the end
Fantastic video. There are a million different ways to get to the finished product with CF. I visited several different production shops to get clues to the most efficient process. So many different takes on reaching the same result. Love your process and approach. More, more, more!!!!
Thanks for posting the ilmistakes and "days lost" text. It's very helpful to see the ENTIRE process.
Great video. Love the organic experience. Sharing insight as it happens. EXCELLENT.
Excellent presentation, and always such a casual approach to great topics!
I i appreciate you sharing your practice . you are very good at teaching. thank you
Great video. Great attitude. Lengthy but honest and detailed.
Closest to this I've done is fibreglass repairs to Kayaks back when I was young enough to fit in them. Interesting to see both the similarities and differences in what on the surface looks like it should be a very similar process. Thank you for taking us on your journey over the pointy bit of dunning kruger.
Now, that phrase made me laugh! Having spent a lot of time - particularly doing home repairs - snagged on the pointiest bits of Dunning-Kruger I can feel it resonate in my bones.
@@ColdHawk The fun part is the ride down the other side as you're forced to figure out why thing that you were sure would work ended up with everything catching fire.
Carbon fiber and fiberglass are more or less identical processes to my knowledge, though there are definitely a lot of different ways to deal with both. Heck, carbon and fiberglass can even be used in the same layup for a single part. Probably the biggest difference in handling the two is how they respond to a pair of scissors. Well, and carbon might be a bit messier... I've done very little with fiberglass but I spent a year working with carbon and let me tell you, that stuff gets everywhere...
Love the way you explain stuff.
I have never laid up CF however, I have seen Mike Patey do it, so I'm qualified to say this😁: You need to electrically isolate the aluminum from the CF, otherwise the CF will destroy aluminum via electrolysis.
You’re such a clever bloke Jeremy, I’m loving your channel and looking forward to seeing you hit the big mill subs one day.👍🏻
Jeremy, my friend Craig has a you tube channel called Throttle Stop Garage. He is making carbon fiber fenders, hood, trunk lid and many other parts for a 1967 Volvo tudor sedan. He's Canadian and VERY meticulous with his bagging and vacuuming. His trick is to pull a vacuum and draw resin into the bag. You really need to watch him, you'll learn a ton. Good Luck and keep the vids coming!
Throttle Stop is a great channel!
I really like your channel. This is the first video I’ve seen of you but very informative. Keep it up.
Once again, the curiousity of my younger days has been been awoken! Thank you, Jeremy! Excellent job!
This is amazing. I learned so much ! Thank you !
Great videos. You are always very informative on the subjects you provide. Again, keep up these great videos!!!!!
Jeremy, you did your ususal outstanding job for those of us on the first rung of the ladder -- Thank You for another excellent video!
You're such a role model, thank you!
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It's a very nice video, because, and please don't take me wrong, you just show all the mistakes that DIY enthusiasts (like me) might and will probably do, we definitely learn more of our mistakes than from our successes! I'll be following your channel Jeremy 👍
I really enjoyed this video. Mistakes are just as important as victories. You have a killer attitude. Love it.
Excellent lessons, Jeremy. Thank you.
Awesome build! Thanks for sharing this process with us ✌️
Great Video! I'm glad you were able to relay so much info into a very informative video!
THANK YOU SIR!!!
Been wanting to get into carbon fiber, and man... I really appreciate your links!
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I just want to say I watch videos on creation of carbon fiber parts… 3d printing… and just self education and learning stuff… I am a pretty reserved person with taking risks … watching your videos … attempts creations success and “failure”which is just progression so please don’t take that word as negativity. We don’t learn right away… and you have truly inspired me to step out of my comfort zone and take a chance on my self to start trying something I always wanted to do. So truly thank you. I appreciate your video and your words. Thank you.
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great content, gets me motivated to get out there and draw, CNC, and 3d print. The Carbon Fiber stuff is awesome.
Wow, Jeremy I very much appreciate you sharing what you've learned. Your humility inspires trust and that I value. I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel. Subscribed!
"Sucking at something is the first step towards sorta being good at something” - Jake, The Dog.
Very cool. I've never really thought about making something with carbon fiber, but I'm tempted to try it now.
great vibes, great video, great lessons, and sweet designed chess piece at the end
This is great Jeremy! Thank you!!
Great video. Showing the challenges and being comfortable with difficulty.
Great Overview, talk about diving into the custom deep end!!
Thank you very much for the terrific video. You very nicely articulated the tradeoffs of more complex designs during the 'learn-as-you-go' period of any new skill. Thanks again.
Thanks. This motivates big time to try it.
Inteligent, insightful, humble, hungry.
Relivant add, great editing, on topic.
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Up the good work
I agree, AWESOME video!! My first time to your channel. Just subscribed. You have an understandable way of explaining things. Thank you!!
Great video. Love learning something new.
Thank you, Jeremy.
Thanks! I’ve been wondering about this for a very long time.
You are an awesome maker! I wish I could comprehend these things as you do!
excellent video! I wish I had the time and the drive you have to pursue projects more projects! thanks for making the video- very inspiring!
Awesome work Jeremy! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Awesome video! You are an excellent teacher.