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  • čas přidán 23. 03. 2024
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  • @JerryRigEverything
    @JerryRigEverything Před měsícem +2214

    I shall send you a new JerryRig knife.

    • @antiLGTBQ
      @antiLGTBQ Před měsícem +26

      can i get one too jerry

    • @lemagicbaguette1917
      @lemagicbaguette1917 Před měsícem +51

      It's gonna end up who knows where.

    • @gabbermaikel
      @gabbermaikel Před měsícem +26

      wil it be a forged jerryrig knife? Or just a normal? And do they come precoated in some resin? Like if i where to buy 1 do i have to buy my own resin to get all over it or is that included?

    • @dispositivosdesalomao7874
      @dispositivosdesalomao7874 Před měsícem +8

      hey jerry can i send you a pair of flipflops from brazil? matt got his pair already when me (and other guys) found his addres LOL

    • @antiLGTBQ
      @antiLGTBQ Před měsícem

      @@dispositivosdesalomao7874Hey man you may have harmless intentions but they definitely do not like having their address known and have things sent to them.

  • @crackedemerald4930
    @crackedemerald4930 Před měsícem +5302

    the ham sandwich was added to stick the vehicle to the ground, because as we all know, pigs don't fly

    • @Avetho
      @Avetho Před měsícem +113

      *_Genius._*

    • @corystansbury
      @corystansbury Před měsícem +49

      *clapping* gif

    • @1471SirFrederickBanbury
      @1471SirFrederickBanbury Před měsícem +49

      yes ham, the ultimate downforce generator, which also brings laminar flow somehow. Dont ask why...

    • @theproceedings4050
      @theproceedings4050 Před měsícem +11

      Well, except occasionally starting on Tuesdays from eight in the evening to four in the morning on Wednesday.

    • @herressen1271
      @herressen1271 Před měsícem +13

      What about porco rosso?

  • @xylafoxlin
    @xylafoxlin Před měsícem +28

    I've never been more honored to replace a resin-infused ham sandwich

  • @hunterm9
    @hunterm9 Před měsícem +173

    I LOVE the fact that you started super strong and immediately jumped ship when you ran out of precut fibers, and just started sticking random shop junk in the composite. That's exactly how all my projects go; ambitious, logically designed, and completely randomly assembled depending on my level of motivation.

  • @albertpolak786
    @albertpolak786 Před měsícem +2317

    The best way to stop people saying "you did it wrong" is to intentionally do it like 40% wrong and give the design another safety factor of 2.5

    • @syedusamamanzoor1838
      @syedusamamanzoor1838 Před měsícem +14

      😂

    • @TastyGnocchi
      @TastyGnocchi Před měsícem +95

      60% done right of a safety factor of 2.5 means at least done 150% times right. Sounds good to me

    • @andreasteriovsky9839
      @andreasteriovsky9839 Před měsícem +10

      @@TastyGnocchi Or good enough...

    • @Universecentral1
      @Universecentral1 Před měsícem +6

      Or there's the threat that your mean comment may become a part of the product, and you will be blamed if something goes wrong.

    • @TastyGnocchi
      @TastyGnocchi Před měsícem

      mean? ironic yes but not mean.
      @@Universecentral1

  • @Brizyy
    @Brizyy Před měsícem +1270

    the fact that the incompetent comment ended up right next to the fucking ham sandwich that you had to dig out is just pure comedy 😂

    • @marscruz
      @marscruz Před měsícem +11

      Throw in some synergic regurgitation… just for the heck of it.

    • @trailingrails9953
      @trailingrails9953 Před měsícem +6

      ⁠​⁠@@marscruza lot of people forget that part of the carbon-resin-synergic regurgitation ratio, then their forged part just ends up being rather insipid.

    • @marscruz
      @marscruz Před měsícem

      @@trailingrails9953
      They don't teach that in school. You have to learn it from an old master or just drink too much on Friday night.

  • @aaronb7990
    @aaronb7990 Před měsícem +249

    'Printed it 0.7% bigger'.
    My Uncle used to hand sculpt sand cast masters. He said it took many revisions to the mold to get the final dimensions correct for the same reason. When you/Matt said 'printed it 7/10s of 1% bigger I just imagined the amount tme and work that kind of adjustment used to take. Such a cool time to be alive.

  • @joshmnky
    @joshmnky Před měsícem +82

    Strong "Just Rolled In" vibe to this episode, especially when replacing the ham sandwich with spray foam.

    • @senditkevin
      @senditkevin Před měsícem +2

      Yes.

    • @sathos
      @sathos Před měsícem +3

      Customer denied repairs and consumed the sandwich remains 😂

  • @adamm2716
    @adamm2716 Před měsícem +2484

    i was in physical pain at some points, top notch youtube content

    • @JGuraan
      @JGuraan Před měsícem +79

      We can all feel that pain. After all, who doesn't remember the first time they had to rework a forged HSRP (Ham-Sandwich-Reinforced-Plastic) composite?

    • @davidcarlsson1396
      @davidcarlsson1396 Před měsícem +3

      ​@@JGuraan We will all forever know the smell through our monitors, no matter if it's one or 100 years from now.

  • @tommasoimperio6474
    @tommasoimperio6474 Před měsícem +1603

    This feels like an April Fools video. I seriously hope you have something even more hilarious in store for April 1st!

    • @Hookmodo
      @Hookmodo Před měsícem +63

      I had to check the date and make sure I hadn't time skipped

    • @PatrickKniesler
      @PatrickKniesler Před měsícem +19

      Matt is probably still seething after reading your comment.

    • @toadbroz30
      @toadbroz30 Před měsícem

      April 1st he is giving away the Viper, I'm calling it now. @tommasoimperio6474

    • @rexhorning7228
      @rexhorning7228 Před měsícem +13

      Day drinking while working on projects! How I miss the good old days.

    • @bearto4703
      @bearto4703 Před měsícem +14

      Watch his april 1st video be the most serious vid he's done to date. Would be fun

  • @trevorjlewis
    @trevorjlewis Před měsícem +33

    I have 45 years working with composites, and I have to say this was just brilliant, a perfect example of "fuck about and find out". Brilliant. The part looked totally acceptable in a Picasso kind of way.

  • @Johnny_OSG
    @Johnny_OSG Před měsícem +17

    Matt, that small triangular piece in front of vertical stabilizer is a leading edge root extension. At high yaw angle it creates a stron Vortex that energies the airflow impacting the main stabilizer increasing the critical angle of attack thus preventing a stall and increasing directional stability.
    The same principle is used in many modern fighter jets in front of main wings - F18s etc. When pulling hard manouvers you can observe vortices shedding and condensation on the main wing. Notice how they are still attached to the wing even at extremely high angles of attack.
    It is important to encorporate this design into your land speed car as it will help you not spin ass forwards

    • @thomashanson6603
      @thomashanson6603 Před měsícem +1

      I was looking for this comment, I was gonna say the same thing.

    • @unpaidintern6652
      @unpaidintern6652 Před 24 dny +3

      So he was absolutely right in the assesment that smart people did a giant load of math to figure out that it has to be there.

  • @miquelllorca8308
    @miquelllorca8308 Před měsícem +530

    When i tought this could not get more unhinged, the sandwich came in...

    • @dracomenda2
      @dracomenda2 Před měsícem +20

      And came right back out 😂

    • @soangry
      @soangry Před měsícem +26

      i thought for sure he was just pretending to put the sandwich in. Cue my head shaking when he opens the mold and there's the sandwich.

  • @alekonicolacakis7002
    @alekonicolacakis7002 Před měsícem +1265

    "Guessing is enough engineering for me" is the motto of engineering students everywhere

    • @nebdaar
      @nebdaar Před měsícem +18

      Luckily it's not. Greetings from Germany. Engineer ofc

    • @zakr1187
      @zakr1187 Před měsícem +13

      ​@@nebdaar*student

    • @alekonicolacakis7002
      @alekonicolacakis7002 Před měsícem +18

      that and, "not good, but good enough"

    • @robconstant797
      @robconstant797 Před měsícem +33

      As someone who didn't finish my engineering degree, I can say that engineering is useless. Just make it bigger, it will be fine.

    • @spacedbro
      @spacedbro Před měsícem +33

      The engineering degree makes your guessing pretty good ... usually.

  • @ionstorm66
    @ionstorm66 Před měsícem +39

    Forged is stronged for complex shapes that you dont have a custom weaved mat for. The chopped fiber soup gives a random layout that helps prevent weak points caused by poor weave alignment in the mat with complex geometries. You could layer multiple standard weave mats in the correct orientation for each section of part, but that adds weight and thickness for the overlaps. You can also make custom weaves so that it aligns with the part geometry, but that adds a lot of cost and complexity.

    • @nicktune1219
      @nicktune1219 Před měsícem +11

      The easiest, fastest, best, and cheapest solution for this is to instead CNC aluminum (or magnesium). But carbon fiber is seen as a "fix all" so shit like this exists. I have never once even thought about making a forged carbon fiber part.

    • @SeanCMonahan
      @SeanCMonahan Před měsícem +13

      ​@@nicktune1219To play devil's advocate here, there are some cases where subtractive manufacturing won't cut it (ba dum tsh). It's possible that other design requirements rule out aluminum.

    • @TheEvilAdministrator
      @TheEvilAdministrator Před 14 dny

      @@SeanCMonahan I mean, even if machining can't produce the part by itself, cast-then-machine probably can.

  • @clist9406
    @clist9406 Před měsícem +10

    We hammered and pried then remembered it was screwed together . This is my new favorite channel

  • @samnelson3526
    @samnelson3526 Před měsícem +963

    Aerospace engineering student here - that 'transition' piece in front of the vertical stabilizer is not for drag reduction, it is for stability in a stall-spin scenario, or rather, it prevents a stall spin from developing. Cars obviously don't have aerodynamic stalls, but it adds area to your vertical stabilizer so it will help you track straighter. And it looks cool!

    • @Lynxtro
      @Lynxtro Před měsícem +14

      It’s a vortex generator right?

    • @kinfongyeung5400
      @kinfongyeung5400 Před měsícem +62

      @@Lynxtro the right term you want to search is dorsal fin

    • @PatrickKniesler
      @PatrickKniesler Před měsícem +84

      Cars may not have stalls, but they do have spins. Its good to know he'll have a better chance of recovery if he starts spinning while driving at 100mph+.

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter Před měsícem +26

      ​@@PatrickKniesler
      *tiny breeze blows down from the mountain*
      car: *lol*

    • @tophatvideosinc.5858
      @tophatvideosinc.5858 Před měsícem +51

      Person who also ran a drag simulation in fusion360 here.
      Can confirm it also reduces leading edge drag at the base.

  • @alexstoll4622
    @alexstoll4622 Před měsícem +77

    Haminar flow

  • @000gjb
    @000gjb Před měsícem +6

    A Mike Patey video on his "Scrappy" bush plane aircraft build in carbon fibre showed fibreglass being used between metal components and the carbon fibre to prevent corrosion - food for thought. Mike Patey builds awesome race planes and other aircraft projects. Very gifted individual.

  • @3landii
    @3landii Před měsícem +4

    All of my garage/work shop walls and ceiling are OSB. I can hang a nail or a shelf anywhere I want without looking for a stud, and it's much more durable than drywall. Additionally, our utility/laundry room is a psuedo-tornado shelter with two layers of 3/4" OSB subflooring. Skim-coated it with a couple of thin coats of drywall mud and it looks just like sheetrock but WAY stronger. So, yay for forged wood...

  • @crackedemerald4930
    @crackedemerald4930 Před měsícem +591

    genius matt, the ham sandwich will be cured in the salt flat, making it inert.

  • @FAB1150
    @FAB1150 Před měsícem +170

    You created the composite of all composites: Resin, carbon, paper, rage, foam, steel, aluminum, and ham

    • @KellyWu04
      @KellyWu04 Před měsícem +2

      And I believe some bread.

    • @daviddanyi1705
      @daviddanyi1705 Před měsícem +8

      One could argue that the ham sandwich IS carbon composite in itself...

  • @acrain7
    @acrain7 Před měsícem +5

    This is genuinely my favorite video you've made, this is commitment to the bit on a whole new level.

  • @CodyBunker
    @CodyBunker Před měsícem

    I've watched countless videos from countless CZcams channels. Some really great content. This is the first channel I might become a patreon member. Such great stuff

  • @myself248
    @myself248 Před měsícem +365

    I felt the Matt/matte joke coming about 0.6 seconds before it landed, and I have concluded that is the optimal timing for maximum pun pain. Well done.

    • @alskjflaksjdflakjdf
      @alskjflaksjdflakjdf Před měsícem +7

      Oh man... I remember listening to it and it sounding strange, but didn't figure out why until now. To be fair, Matt's videos always sound strange so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

  • @chuckindex
    @chuckindex Před měsícem +1

    400k sub! Congratz!

  • @uberschnilthegreat22
    @uberschnilthegreat22 Před měsícem +2

    Those intermediaries are, if I remember correctly, actually pretty much an extension to the vertical stabilizer. Early P-51D's had issues with yaw stability due to transitioning from a razorback design to a flush bubble canopy, so later variants would extend the base of the vertical stabilizer to regain it.

  • @nickcoul699
    @nickcoul699 Před měsícem +277

    I half expected the ham sandwich to absorb the resin like a sponge and become the strongest section.

    • @TheRealAlpha2
      @TheRealAlpha2 Před měsícem +31

      I've seen enough Evan and Katelyn DIY resin projects to know that _never_ works out to plan.

    • @Corvus.2606
      @Corvus.2606 Před měsícem +29

      the bread on it's own would have (probably) worked, but the water in the ham stops the resin form curing.

    • @celeron55
      @celeron55 Před měsícem +9

      If it was dried first, then sure. But moisture doesn't work well in this application. Plus the ham is greasy, that's bad also. So, it just doesn't work.

    • @Mister_Brown
      @Mister_Brown Před měsícem +2

      @@celeron55yeah he shoulda freeze dried it

    • @athmaid
      @athmaid Před měsícem +3

      ​@@TheRealAlpha2I'm already mentally preparing for resin pumpkin part 23 with shocking results lol

  • @GingerPiston
    @GingerPiston Před měsícem +285

    That superfast matte pun was top tier.

  • @systemsbroken
    @systemsbroken Před měsícem +1

    In the "High End" Cycling world (specifically by Trek Bicycles) it has been called "OCLV", or Optimum Compaction, Low Void. We always called it "Optimum Cracking Low Value" as it had a far higher failure rate than a standard weave.

  • @reinbeers5322
    @reinbeers5322 Před měsícem +1

    That little extension to the vertical stabilizer was often added to increase directional stability in aircraft. You can see it being added in the later P-47 models.
    Also reduces drag!

  • @samuelb6960
    @samuelb6960 Před měsícem +273

    You would think a ham sandwich was the weirdest thing added to a layup, but I know of a boat with a guy's grandmother's ashes mixed into the resin.

    • @TheRealAlpha2
      @TheRealAlpha2 Před měsícem +123

      I'd argue his Grandma (rip) is far more structurally sound than that ham sandwich.

    • @shred1894
      @shred1894 Před měsícem +15

      I'm gonna need the story behind that boat my guy. I'll crack a beer before reading it.

    • @samuelb6960
      @samuelb6960 Před měsícem +41

      @shred1894 I worked for schooner creek boatworks the customer for a boat we were building named the boat after his grandmother "Maggie Brown" and wanted her ashes put into the boat somewhere so my boss had one of the guys hollow out behind where our bronze schooner creek badge was going and mix the ashes with epoxy and fill the void with it.

    • @jacksmith7726
      @jacksmith7726 Před měsícem +8

      You can sex toys with ashes mixed in the resin if you what to get really weird

    • @shred1894
      @shred1894 Před měsícem +14

      @@samuelb6960 Ah, I didn't expect a reply so quickly and I didn't have a beer to crack open. But that's a much better but less entertaining story than I expected.

  • @jon-williammurphy9780
    @jon-williammurphy9780 Před měsícem +81

    My old VP of engineering was a smart dude. We were ME/EE/FW engineers for hire and had to design things fast and reliably. He said, to be confident in your design you should have at least one of these:
    1. Experimental proof that it works (TIW)
    2. Robust simulation TIW
    3. An expert says TIW and why
    4. Someone else who actually researched it does it that same way.
    5. If it’s fucked you can easily pivot to something else that works (but is probably more expensive)
    So your stabilizer transition thing is legit under article 4!

  • @TheChoirDirector
    @TheChoirDirector Před měsícem

    As usual, love it! Thanks for making these videos for us!

  • @Robbgt
    @Robbgt Před měsícem

    Gold, pure gold. Thanks for the laughs today! Loved it.

  • @improprietary1
    @improprietary1 Před 2 měsíci +414

    You joke about engineered wood but plain OSB walls in the utility room is becoming trendy

    • @__dm__
      @__dm__ Před 2 měsíci +41

      no fucking way, doesn't it splinter and break apart unless it's covered?

    • @resignator
      @resignator Před měsícem +14

      Garages too.

    • @roflchopter11
      @roflchopter11 Před měsícem +22

      Surely you can't be serious...

    • @user-kq2ny1wt6k
      @user-kq2ny1wt6k Před měsícem

      I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley. czcams.com/video/_ZAyCbU3oU8/video.html

    • @huninmunin1732
      @huninmunin1732 Před měsícem +7

      Just sand an varnish them I wouldn't do it but some prefere

  • @jordancurnow8981
    @jordancurnow8981 Před měsícem +251

    Not gonna lie, had to check to make sure it wasn’t April 1st half way through the video.

  • @vdjKryptosRock
    @vdjKryptosRock Před měsícem

    Got a mint 2015 gmc truck recently. The full deluxe package and a fancy engine. Might do this for bumper covers. Wont do much in a crash, but I wont have to worry about dings.

  • @jorehir
    @jorehir Před měsícem +2

    1:11
    It keeps the air attaches to the rudder at high yaw angles, like a LERX.
    The high sweep virtually decreases the Angle of Attack to the incoming airflow, lowering the chances of stall.
    At very high angles, it may even generate a vortex, with similar positive effects.
    Structurally, it increases the contact area with the fuselage, securing the rudder in its place.
    As for forged carbon, it was conceived to eliminate the manual labor involved in normal carbon fiber manufacturing, lowering its cost. It's called "forged" because it supposed to be pressed on the mold by a press-forge, which would also cure it. It's a strong material, but not as strong as regular carbon fiber. But it surely looks shiny and glamorous.

  • @ShootingAir
    @ShootingAir Před měsícem +130

    "....Because it's hilarious"... yes, yes it is. You made me leak from my eyeballs.

    • @darksu6947
      @darksu6947 Před měsícem

      It's ok my dude. Just let them purdy little cryballs leak if they want to. I won't think any less of you 😁

  • @sterneno1107
    @sterneno1107 Před měsícem +310

    "But that is a problem for future Matt" seems to be your favorite words!

    • @TheAngryConsumer
      @TheAngryConsumer Před měsícem +3

      You need to sell a sticker that says "This was a problem for Future Me"

    • @papalazarou5428
      @papalazarou5428 Před měsícem +2

      I use that comment on a daily basis

    • @TheRealAlpha2
      @TheRealAlpha2 Před měsícem +2

      His favorite, until he IS future Matt.

    • @shred1894
      @shred1894 Před měsícem

      Either that or "Good Enough".

    • @jasonb6570
      @jasonb6570 Před měsícem +2

      @@TheAngryConsumer Future Me always hates Past Me. Past Me can be a real dick.

  • @superhawk1000vtr
    @superhawk1000vtr Před měsícem

    OMG good sir, I haven't laughed that hard in a looooongggg time! Kudos and keep up the exceptionally high quality work my friend!!!!

  • @paulreese9452
    @paulreese9452 Před měsícem +1

    For low-part-count MDF molds, using epoxy on the MDF to seal it works pretty well. For surface prep, Partall-wax is pretty great.
    For keeping the epoxy out of the threads, I've found that coating the threads in wax works pretty well.

  • @ABROOKSH
    @ABROOKSH Před měsícem +93

    The 10mm socket joke… so obvious but so, so good.
    You sir are very good at what you do.

    • @davidcarlsson1396
      @davidcarlsson1396 Před měsícem

      To be honest it will turn out to be the one you will always find.

  • @gaeel330
    @gaeel330 Před měsícem +160

    Engineering is about optimising. Optimising for performance, for durability, for cost, for ease of use, etc...
    Sometimes one of the optimisation factors is humour...

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter Před měsícem +7

      Nah, here we optimize how much and for long we use our brain.

    • @observingtheworld8989
      @observingtheworld8989 Před měsícem +1

      @@Splarkszter So for exactly half a sentence then?

    • @burtdanams4426
      @burtdanams4426 Před měsícem +1

      This sounds like something Data would say lmao

  • @Nahngunnarson
    @Nahngunnarson Před měsícem

    Always enjoy your story but this was the most fun so far and that is saying a lot. Thanks.

  • @eljefeamericano4308
    @eljefeamericano4308 Před měsícem

    For better or worse, this video was my introduction to your channel. The part of me that is meticulous to a fault hated so, so much of this... But the part of me that appreciates dry, cynical humor convinced the other part to go take a nap so I could be entertained.
    Then I saw the Viper... Very cool. It's the kind of crazy thing I'd have loved to do in a video game. Here, you've done it in real life. I'm now subscribed.

  • @PuerRidcully
    @PuerRidcully Před měsícem +129

    Adding tungsten to lightweight carbon - good thinking, Matt.

    • @rocketsurgeon11
      @rocketsurgeon11 Před měsícem +12

      It's a land speed car...weight really isn't that big a deal, plus he needs to balance out the CG...or something. ;)

    • @digbysirchickentf2315
      @digbysirchickentf2315 Před měsícem +12

      @@rocketsurgeon11 I'm starting to worry about Matt.

    • @shred1894
      @shred1894 Před měsícem +26

      @@digbysirchickentf2315 I'm starting to worry about Future Matt.

    • @MrRedstoner
      @MrRedstoner Před měsícem +9

      @@shred1894 I'll go ahead and leave worrying about Future Matt to Future Me

    • @emmajacobs5575
      @emmajacobs5575 Před měsícem

      @@rocketsurgeon11except you want the centre of mass ahead of the centre of aerodynamic pressure for high speed stability. Which is useful for land speed record cars.

  • @Chilled_Mackers
    @Chilled_Mackers Před měsícem +108

    You sir, are a legend. I enjoy the subtle jokes, never ham fisted - they are the bread and butter of the channel.

    • @Sir66Hugh
      @Sir66Hugh Před měsícem +1

      These jokes are leaving me salty.

    • @sooyster4033
      @sooyster4033 Před měsícem

      I think the sandwich was a little...er...."ham fisted" you might say

  • @bonovoxel7527
    @bonovoxel7527 Před měsícem +1

    I love your choices of words for the titles, but I'm interested in the subject too! :)

  • @ChrisOnez718
    @ChrisOnez718 Před měsícem +1

    this makes me happy. i always assumed that the weave pattern is what in part adds strength.

  • @maxthecheesecheeseboy9605
    @maxthecheesecheeseboy9605 Před měsícem +90

    I’ve found that wetting the fibres out by mixing them in resin before inserting them into the mould is pretty much essential to achieve a full wet out on larger components

    • @justinlabarge8178
      @justinlabarge8178 Před měsícem +39

      Right, but how do you stop the sandwich from Absorbing all of your resin?

    • @tophatvideosinc.5858
      @tophatvideosinc.5858 Před měsícem +3

      Its looks to me like that "essential" part was not only skipped, but turned out just fine. Ill trust matt the engineer on this one.

    • @billcodey1430
      @billcodey1430 Před měsícem

      Too much information!

    • @strider_hiryu850
      @strider_hiryu850 Před měsícem +14

      buddy, he added a ham sandwich and pointed out how cheap & disposable "forged" carbon fiber is. you've already put way too much engineering in the first 10 words of this comment than Matt has done on this entire project. use your expertise for good, not for CZcams commenting. or don't. do whatever. i'm not your mother.

    • @clapanse
      @clapanse Před měsícem +2

      @@tophatvideosinc.5858He wouldn't have had the pinholes if he'd premixed it, so "turned out just fine" is a bit of a stretch here.
      Then again, honestly, given the structural loads involved in this, I'm sure this'll work just fine regardless.

  • @Schismarch
    @Schismarch Před měsícem +57

    It’s like the part is an embodied shitpost to grief your haters. I loved it. It also looks pretty cool.

  • @lucaserickson3835
    @lucaserickson3835 Před měsícem +1

    Absolute video perfection like usual!

  • @langsor
    @langsor Před 19 dny

    From the sublime to the absurd. I found your channel this morning and have "wasted" the entire day. First I watched the Honda S600 playlist and now I'm cherry picking other videos on your channel. You have a new subscriber in me. My takeaway, besides bewilderment and amazement, is the pro tip "good enough."

  • @Skwisgar2322
    @Skwisgar2322 Před měsícem +40

    One of these days, future Matt is gonna beat the crap out of past Matt.

    • @glenns5627
      @glenns5627 Před měsícem

      I can speak from experience, it's the other way 'round. Future me (when he arrived) said, OMG I hurt, who beat the crap out of me? Oh ya, it was Past me, doing stupid shit...

    • @playmaka2007
      @playmaka2007 Před měsícem

      But current matt has left future matt an offering of a ham sandwich and a 10mm socket to stave the violence.

  • @tbh9088
    @tbh9088 Před měsícem +137

    The transition from the fuselage to the vertical tail has no aerodynamic advantage. A professor in engineering school told us it was the result of needing to increase the tail area for lateral stability after the initial design and/or test flights were performed. It was cheaper to add this structure than redesign the empennage completely. It may also allow a lower tail height to reduce roll coupling.

    • @Kalimerakis
      @Kalimerakis Před měsícem +20

      Thats also what I remember.
      In some twin engine planes (don't remember which) they added it after switching to more powerful engines, as it needed more longitudinal stability for engine-out scenarios.
      Also it does have the aerodynamic advantage of adding stability, I don't know if it has the advantage of reducing drag.
      Probably not as a longer chords (low aspect ratio) generally are less efficient in the lift to drag ratio.
      It might be structurally more stable as there is less of a lever arm and more area attached to the fuselage.

    • @Pieliker96
      @Pieliker96 Před měsícem +17

      It can also act as a LERX for the Vstab and increase effectiveness / delay stall at high sideslip angles, particularly helpful for countering engine-out thrust asymmetry on multi-engine planes

    • @tomcoon9038
      @tomcoon9038 Před měsícem +2

      Also a common method of adding needed stability after adding floats to a plane. The increased forward drag of the floats necessitates increasing the tail area.

    • @paullowell3342
      @paullowell3342 Před měsícem +5

      That would make sense if it wasn’t also on new planes. Which it is

    • @Dovorans
      @Dovorans Před měsícem +19

      ​@@paullowell3342Don't underestimate the degree to which looking cool has driven vertical stabilizer design, it's one of the few places on an aircraft you can play around and not have it bite you.

  • @dwaynepenner2788
    @dwaynepenner2788 Před měsícem +1

    I remember a story about the first dehavilland plane to use bonded aluminum panels and how the old school workers really didn’t understand that while a clean room would be and ideal place to have lunch a composite clean room definitely isn’t. The aftermath : debond and corrosion issues. The linen scrim used in early adhesives also didn’t help. I haven’t laughed that hard for days! A mostly adequate job sir!

  • @NickSchuetze
    @NickSchuetze Před měsícem

    laughing out loud, big smiles, and I hope I'm not waking anyone up, but I can't help it... loved the video!

  • @darthtrump4428
    @darthtrump4428 Před měsícem +60

    Dear lord, i feel bad for what that guy Future Matt will have to endure...

    • @dikkie1000
      @dikkie1000 Před měsícem +4

      I have no idea what Future Matt has done to Present Matt, but i imagine it must have been terrible.

    • @jasonb6570
      @jasonb6570 Před měsícem +1

      Fuck that guy. He always figures something out.

  • @Wojtgaw
    @Wojtgaw Před měsícem +60

    that 10mm socket caught me of guard

    • @jasonb6570
      @jasonb6570 Před měsícem +6

      That's the part that you found surprising?

    • @Wojtgaw
      @Wojtgaw Před měsícem

      @@jasonb6570 You can expect anything surprising in life, but not to find a 10 mil

    • @riffzifnab9254
      @riffzifnab9254 Před měsícem +6

      No one expects the 10mm socket, because it's never there when you need it.

    • @RealBLAlley
      @RealBLAlley Před měsícem +2

      Has anyone _not_ lost a 10mm socket?

  • @lou135
    @lou135 Před měsícem

    I have no idea what your channel is about, but the way you presented this and the humor just made subscribe anyway.

  • @imriel33
    @imriel33 Před měsícem

    never watched your videos before but i effing love every bit of this

  • @Chippie-O
    @Chippie-O Před měsícem +38

    The only thing I can think you've done wrong in this build Matt is not re-forging the "good enough" sticker, but that "Superfast Matt" paint is pure freaking gold bro.

  • @johnl5525
    @johnl5525 Před měsícem +61

    The sandwich brainfart. Were you trained at Boeing by any chance??
    All hail the algorithm.

  • @christopherdean1326
    @christopherdean1326 Před 14 dny

    The fact that you're talking about cool stuff is almost a bonus. Your dry humour makes almost anything worth listening to.

  • @brandonhicks7549
    @brandonhicks7549 Před měsícem

    The tail swept angle on rudders is to reduce the likelihood of rudder-lock, a situation where yawing the aircraft the force on the rudder suddenly reverses and slams full turn. It can do so in an unrecoverable way. It’s an anti-spin feature

  • @hexapodium
    @hexapodium Před měsícem +36

    The long transition-y bit is a leading-edge root extension, they help keep the wing (or tail) un-stalled at higher angles of attack. On fast jets they're usually on the wing and result in being able to do more top gun type things; on slow jets on the tail, I think they help prevent and recover from spins and other 'stalled tail' situations where there's a big apparent crosswind, which is potentially a very bad day.
    On the land speed car, I *hope* the plan is to not run it with a 90mph crosswind (seems sketchy but idk) so it should be less of an aerodynamic factor and more of a coolness-enhancing one; there might be some benefits to moving the tail's centre of pressure a bit lower.
    A short literature search has turned up nothing on the merits of a ham sandwich for yaw stability, but I hope the Ig Nobel committee is paying attention.

    • @mememaster147
      @mememaster147 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah, the vertical tail root extension is specifically an anti-spin feature. AFAIK if you go into a spin it acts as a vortex generator to create vortex lift on one side of the tail to resist the spin.

  • @nathanschaefer5148
    @nathanschaefer5148 Před měsícem +15

    The intermediate part before the rudder is a vortice generator exactly like a delta wing, it causes a large notice to generate at high angles which increases drag in the back of the aircraft and increases the stabilizing lift force by up to 80pct over just having the plain rudder alone.
    This was discovered around the time of WW2 but not understood at all until the 60s, by the 70s it was being built into the strakes of combat jets like the f-16 and f-18

  • @mcrsit
    @mcrsit Před měsícem

    This one was spectacular. Your dry, British humor was cranked to 11, more of that please 🤣

  • @trumaniac239
    @trumaniac239 Před měsícem

    The dorsal fin or transition before the vertical stabilizer improves the directional stability at high side slip angles. It’s basically a small vortex generator for the vertical stabilizer.

  • @aria8928
    @aria8928 Před měsícem +12

    Aside from the sandwich, the other inclusions are actually really cool looking and i liked them a lot.

  • @Dovorans
    @Dovorans Před měsícem +17

    Fun fact: the main reason most GA aircraft's vertical stabilizers aren't just rectangular in planform is that marketing found that tapered and swept vertical stabilizers sold better. For manufacturers like Mooney the tail profile is simply part of the brand image, like how BMW uses kidney grilles. All that being said, the dorsal fin does help keep the vertical stabilizer from stalling at high side slip angles.

  • @derjaxxer
    @derjaxxer Před měsícem +2

    I just discovered this channel and i really wasn‘t ready for this

  • @GruntyGame
    @GruntyGame Před měsícem +2

    Important lesson learnt, dehumidify then degas ham sandwiches before adding them to resin composites.

  • @chesspiece81
    @chesspiece81 Před měsícem +21

    Matt your "close enough" method is absolutely hilarious.

    • @shadowgattler
      @shadowgattler Před měsícem +3

      Good enough. It's good enough. Come on.

  • @jamessmith8480
    @jamessmith8480 Před měsícem +14

    I haven't laughed this hard at the internet in a long time. Thanks SuperfastMatt!

  • @LIONGOD
    @LIONGOD Před měsícem +1

    it always makes me happy to see composites done right

  • @blainerawdon6545
    @blainerawdon6545 Před měsícem

    Matt, thanks for your ongoing videos. They are very interesting, educational, and enjoyable. At about 1:00 you decline to speculate on the purpose of the vertical stabilizer dorsal fin. That won't stop me from speculating! In a sideslip (crossflow), a fuselage experiences increased crossflow angles near to the fuselage surface. The fuselage magnifies the angle. This may tend to stall the inboard portion of the stabilizer at big sideslip angles. The additional area provided by the dorsal tends to straighten the flow and reduce the tendency of the inboard main stabilizer to stall (separate). At the same time, the dorsal is extra-effective at providing stability because of the magnified crossflow angle. Another factor may be the buildup of a boundary layer on the fuselage upper surface leading into the stabilizer root leading edge. This can lead to a disadvantageous horseshoe vortex if the leading edge has low sweep. This vortex sheds on both sides of the root, even when flying straight. The gradual slope of the ventral may inhibit formation of this vortex. Lastly, at very high sideslip angles, the highly swept dorsal fin may form a big vortex that wipes the main portion of the stabilizer, helping to keep its flow attached. The strakes on an F-18 perform this function, I believe. Switching topics now: I think you built this stabilizer the hard way. In the future, consider hot-wired styrene foam (or machined not-styrene foam) with epoxy-glass or epoxy-carbon skins with Mylar caul plates and vacuum bag pressure. This can yield a smooth and shiny finish with little follow-on work. Concentrated loads can be taken by machined plywood ribs and tubes as you have used. I have learned a lot from you about methods, attitude, and approaches. I hope this note is taken as a modest reciprocal effort. Best regards and please keep up the good work!

  • @gsmdo8836
    @gsmdo8836 Před měsícem +17

    Brilliant - you continue to be my favourite channel, by producing hilarious and off the wall content, yet somehow producing working vehicles...

    • @link7417
      @link7417 Před měsícem +2

      Granted I don't watch many channels in this category, but I'm honestly impressed by how much Matt actually gets done along whit the jokes/mucking about and in a 3 car garage

  • @swealer
    @swealer Před měsícem +14

    Matt, from the bottom of my heart: THANK YOU! that hilarious video was just what i needed after this week! Edit: Okay, i didnt see the "superfastMATT" and the 10mill joke coming at the end, but boy, those were great :D

    • @SynchronizorVideos
      @SynchronizorVideos Před měsícem

      The 10mm socket was a genius touch. I hope he finds a way to leave that visible in the final product.

  • @swecreations
    @swecreations Před měsícem +1

    Easily one of your best CZcams videos so far, and that's saying something.

  • @adamcravets5408
    @adamcravets5408 Před měsícem +1

    I don’t think I’ve ever subscribed to a channel after seeing only one video until today.

  • @crystaldragon141
    @crystaldragon141 Před měsícem +3

    The 10mm is amazing. I'm missing at least 3 I think. Although one isn't really missing it's just stuck in the frame rail of a car I sold years ago.

  • @charlieyocum9948
    @charlieyocum9948 Před 2 měsíci +701

    This is peak content. Glad you found my 10 mil, too!

    • @R.B_B
      @R.B_B Před měsícem +9

      Why call "10mil" if 10mm is the correct and fewer letters???

    • @fredio54
      @fredio54 Před měsícem +1

      He's most likely from a metric country and typing phonetically. However I just assumed he lost a 10 thou socket.

  • @freeidaho-videos
    @freeidaho-videos Před měsícem +10

    The superfast matt paint job is absolutely some of your best humor.

  • @davidross5291
    @davidross5291 Před měsícem

    1:21 The fin helps the plane recover from a spin. It was added when Cessna added the back window and reduced the rear fuselage side area: which increased drag and slowed the plane down...and made it harder to recover from a spin. Thus the added 'fin' area.

  • @dominicbattle4775
    @dominicbattle4775 Před měsícem

    this made my day, i wish more people had a sense of humor like you.

  • @alexchasewilliams
    @alexchasewilliams Před měsícem +13

    Hey Matt, the strake forward of the vertical stabilizer is for stability at high yaw angles. It generates a vortex that keeps the flow attached on the low pressure side. Source: Aerodynamics for naval aviators.

  • @roflchopter11
    @roflchopter11 Před měsícem +12

    That actually looks pretty cool.
    I thought the forged carbon fiber was also supposed to be "thin" like normal carbon fiber, with either a foam core, no core (hollow) and/or bonded to a complimentary stiffening piece like car hoods.

    • @jeffmcdonald101
      @jeffmcdonald101 Před měsícem +9

      This is thin compared to something less thin.

    • @roflchopter11
      @roflchopter11 Před měsícem

      @@jeffmcdonald101 I mean, yeah. Thats true of everything, except maybe a sphere or cube.

    • @octosquatch.
      @octosquatch. Před měsícem +4

      Sandwich core

  • @unnitocases4174
    @unnitocases4174 Před měsícem

    Went into this video expecting frustration, came out with a huge smile. Thanks Matt!

  • @Maximum_777
    @Maximum_777 Před měsícem +1

    When you added the sandwiches, I actually saw it coming, I knew the moment I saw them that you were going to put them into the mold, however I didn't think you'd actually leave them there! I thought it was just going to be a gag, but nope, you actually let it cure like that. I really thought at that point you were going to fully commit, until it rotted and forced you to dig it out, but at least you didn't do that. Top notch content.

  • @majasservice7141
    @majasservice7141 Před měsícem +5

    I love your dry sort of humor and would like to have my posting glued inside one of your artworks. At last I like most the story from the pikes peak, allaround. my garage is also full of projects and I watch your videos, which are grat!, and hope to find some inspiration and motivation.
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  • @shaneferrell7852
    @shaneferrell7852 Před měsícem +22

    Oh... My... God....

  • @TDCflyer
    @TDCflyer Před měsícem

    01:11 this fillet is in many cases done just to increase vertical surface area and thereby directional stability. Instead of enlarging the fin, which would serve the same aerodynamic purpose but might cause too high stresses, this fillet distributes load along the fuselage.

  • @paulw8356
    @paulw8356 Před měsícem

    Matt, if you get 7714 Crowsfoot weave fiberglass, you can indeed make that sharp curve at the bottom of your wing: I use that stuff a lot in race car body fabrication and it works quite well.

  • @joyitas
    @joyitas Před měsícem +7

    The end product looks really clean, hilarious!

  • @senatorchinchilla5389
    @senatorchinchilla5389 Před měsícem +20

    So its more of a "forgery" forging than a "highly compressed molten metal" forged.
    I was also very intrigued to hear your 3D print shrank, because we've been experiencing the same thing at work. Every part that needs a dimension held was coming out tight.

    • @louisvaught2495
      @louisvaught2495 Před měsícem +11

      What's particularly annoying about the term is that you can actually forge carbon fiber, using heat and/or compression molding to control and improve fiber alignment.
      The thing everyone calls "forged" carbon fiber is just basic chopped compression molding.

    • @scratchfisch6425
      @scratchfisch6425 Před měsícem

      3d printed parts usually shrink a bit, although the exact amount is dependent on the material used. Some slicers can be configured to account for this, but in my experience, for critical tolerances it is usually easier to account for this shrinkage during modeling and test the most critical dimensions (for example friction fits for bearings) with some test prints.
      AFAIK, shrinkage is a common phenomenon in all plastics, and can even be much more severe in other processes (like injection molding).

    • @SwainixFPV
      @SwainixFPV Před měsícem +1

      The shrink (or expansion) depends on the material used, I think he's using ABS which shrinks/warps quite a bit during the print, but for example Silk PLA will foam the tiniest bit and if you flow calibrate it you'll usually end up with lower flow values than other PLAs. You can calibrate dimensions quite well otherwise, but worst case you print measure and adjust in the slicer settings.

    • @aaronb7990
      @aaronb7990 Před měsícem +1

      My Uncle used to hand sculpt sand cast masters. He said it took many revisions to the mold to get the final dimensions correct for the same reason. When he said 'printed it 7/10s of 1% bigger I just imagined the amount tme and work that kind of adjustment used to take.

  • @truegret7778
    @truegret7778 Před měsícem +1

    Interesting process. I am sure you took into account the dependency you have on the vertical stabilizer at 200+mph. Looking forward to seeing you on the salt flats.

  • @craigg7182
    @craigg7182 Před měsícem +1

    Hilarious and really cool at the same time! Great job mate