The "lazy moss pole" is definitely much better than the 360° moss pole. I absolutely hated those too, because even if I drenched them, ~24 hrs. later they'd be 99% dry. The "lazy" poles stay moist about 3 times longer in my experience, which I really love.
YES! I've found the same with them so far. Like I've only had to wet the verrucosum one again after like 1.5 weeks! Much better than dealing with spraying them every other day 🙃
Oh my gosh, I think I have every kind of moss pole trialling at the moment but for some reason what's working best for me is pallet planks and to stop the issue of mould or rot issues I bag the base of the plank into a zip-lock bag and if the zip-lock bag is slightly too wide I fold the extra and tape it down the side. If I try to keep moss poles damp I feel I'm over watering the plant by doing it and I seriously don't want to keep taking them to the shower all the time to keep them wet whilst not watering the plant every time either, also constantly bottle spraying doesn't cut it either. What a palaver these things are. There's a lovely lady on youtube, Roots_Leaves_Reads, who does amazing plastic backed moss poles and am looking to try some of her methods, so I suggest you check her out. Plus her plants are to die for! Good luck with your lazy moss poles.
So I recently tried doing a plank for my dubia and it REFUSED to attach itself... So I had to switch it. It's on cork bark now and I think it's doing a bit better. I've honestly found the most success with the plastic back moss poles. The one I have are from grow vertical and i LOVE them! They stay sooo much more moist than the normal ones. Even now in spring i dont have to water them every week as they stay much more moist! I do use a portable spray hose thing to water them sometimes if I can't be a**ed to bring them to the tub. I'll defo check out roots_leaves_reads though. Thanks for the recommendation!
That’s why I use clear yoghurt cups in the top of my moss poles. They have tiny holes and the water slowly trickles down into the moss. Thanks gravity!! :) No more spraying or schlepping larger plants into the shower just to get the moss moist.
Ooh interesting. Do you know what brand your yogurt cups are? I've not seen any clear ones. I've tried doing similar with water bottles with holes poked into the cap. but I tend to still do that in the shower in case it falls over 😅 I'll have to experiment a bit more and see what works best for me! Thanks for the amazing idea!!
The australianplantguy leaves an inch or two of his moss poles empty at the top and then simply places a water bottle with holes poked into the cap upside down. Works well for me too!
This is just one reason why it dries out so quickly is because when you put a pvc pipe in the middle it takes up so much room within the moss pole itself that there is bugger all room for a decent amount of moss. The less moss the quicker it will dry out
I've found also moss poles that are in soil pots tend to get mould from bacteria where as ones that are on lecca or lachuza pon don't because their flushed and don't harbour bacteria like soil does.
Lurking hard on YT for ideas while designing my new climbing plant mounts. Thanks for sharing! What I really want to know where you got that awesome potting mat/tray!?
Hi Emma, great video as usual 😊I recently bought some self watering moss poles and I found them to dry out very quickly and my plants aren’t attaching to them. I wouldn’t recommend them 👎🏾✌🏾
Give us updates dear Emma! I m literally at the verge of making my moss poles and was looking for guidance, I have already seen the lazy moss poles of "unplantparenthood" and thought they were functional and cool looking. My cococoir poles are not doing anything to my plants...they dry too quickly and plants don't clime on them at all...🙄😔
I certainly will keep you updated! So far I LOOOOOOOVE my plastic backed ones from grow vertical. I've still not really found a good alternative in the UK yet but I'm searching and will defo share if/when I do. I'm also pretty happy with the lazy poles as they're easier to make than the plastic mesh ones and I think they look nicer and have stayed pretty damp. Coir poles are a waste of time imo... They really don't do anything for the plant other than hold it up if it's tied 😂
can you dismantle one regular one (not a self watering one)? I'm in serbia, and I recently bought one for my monstera, and it's just a plastic pipe with sheet of moss tied to it. it dried up in like half an hour. I'm pretty sure that's not how they're supposed to be, but since that's the only place where I found them, I have nothing to compare them to
Typically the ones that come with a plant are actually coir poles rather than moss poles. The fibres they use will not really retain moisture. That sounds like what you've gotten with your monstera. If you want something that actually stays moist, I suggest buying an actual moss pole online or making one yourself. I hope that helps
Instead of trying to spray your poles, which only wets the outer layer, buy some cheap funnels to poke into the top of your poles and then just add a couple of cups of water every few days. You can leave the funnels in place so you just walk around and tip water in. Super easy.
What sort of material did you use for the wicking cords? You said cotton at some stage but I’m not sure if you meant literally the fibre. I would really avoid all natural fibres for wicking, because of the increased risk of mould. I’m super curious as to whether you used synthetic or natural wicking fibre, because I still want to try it.
Sphagnum itself has powerful anti-fungal properties. It’s very acidic, do the plants mind? I guess they stick to tree trunks even with high tannin and other properties.
Another property of sphagnum, not very desirable, is that when it dries out, it is not easily rewet. Two things which could help; one is a drop of detergent or plant-specific rewetting surfactant added to the water. The other is sheet moss, which holds less water but is much less resistant to rewetting; this could be mixed with sphagnum or used alone. I am not really in the plant community and don’t know if this has been tried and tested.
My self watering moss pile went stagnant and smelt awful. It never kept the moss wet. They just don’t work! Also the ph of sphagnum moss is acidic and I wonder if some plants don’t like that? I do however put sphagnum moss on the surface of all my pots and it appears to keep thrips at bay… probably because of the acid ph?
Also with the lazy poles if you use live moss then it will never degrade like the dead dried out spagnum does over time so a live moss lazy pole can literally last for years.
@@GoodGrowing Yeah, they do surprisingly well. You might have to experiment with how much you use or which thickness works best. I use it with all of my pon plants for diy self-watering and it's great because you can clean/boil and reuse it if necessary, too.
@@a.2461 it depends on how thirsty the plant is and how big the pot is. For a standard plant in a 4-6 inch pot I’ll use a wick that’s about a quarter inch thick. But trial and error is best since it depends on airflow and how dry your home is etc
Moss poles are a nightmare, i been using that method but with plastic netting luckily i dont have many plant on moss poles yet but will have to switch to plastic backing as its getting annoying, keep having to spray them🙄😂
Yeah I think that's what unplantparenthood originally called the lazy moss pole but she switched to full plastic to keep the moisture in. So far mine have been staying pretty moist so I'm happy with them and will likely make more. I just can't be spraying my poles every 2-3 days...
they do! I'm currently struggling with some in (and out) of my ikea cabinet. I'm trying mosquito bits at the moment, will make a video on it when I have a bit more info! Sorry I couldn't help more now! 😅
Sorry I keep commenting with the lazy pole instead of doing it like that. The mesh front the other poles use it on the front and make holes in the plastic and cable tie it to the plastic. Look up the lecca queen on CZcams as she does tutorials on how to do them.
Instead of self watering moss pole, it’s easier to drill tiny holes into the poles and fill with coco chunks, barks. River sand and soil, and wrapped with moss… so you just water the pole like you do the container… make sure the poles is not closed on bottom so the water drains straight to the pot and extra runs out if you over water… and the plants will hold on to the medium in the pole just not the moss. Other option is to keep a lid on the pole so light don’t penetrate inside the pole. Also Colloidal silver and or hydrogen peroxide will fix mold problems
I've really struggled with planks personally. When I tried it with my dubia it did absolutely nothing and didn't attach at all.. so far I like the lazy ones as they've stayed as moist as my grow vertical ones!
@@GoodGrowing did you use tape or something else to hold the nodes against the plank? I ask because I find that string and Velcro tape don’t work well. Tape on the other hand works very well as it securely pushes the node against the wood. Some plants are slower to attach than others, but just being held in place tell the plank that it has support, and they will eventually shoot out aerial roots.
The "lazy moss pole" is definitely much better than the 360° moss pole. I absolutely hated those too, because even if I drenched them, ~24 hrs. later they'd be 99% dry. The "lazy" poles stay moist about 3 times longer in my experience, which I really love.
YES! I've found the same with them so far. Like I've only had to wet the verrucosum one again after like 1.5 weeks! Much better than dealing with spraying them every other day 🙃
Oh my gosh, I think I have every kind of moss pole trialling at the moment but for some reason what's working best for me is pallet planks and to stop the issue of mould or rot issues I bag the base of the plank into a zip-lock bag and if the zip-lock bag is slightly too wide I fold the extra and tape it down the side. If I try to keep moss poles damp I feel I'm over watering the plant by doing it and I seriously don't want to keep taking them to the shower all the time to keep them wet whilst not watering the plant every time either, also constantly bottle spraying doesn't cut it either. What a palaver these things are. There's a lovely lady on youtube, Roots_Leaves_Reads, who does amazing plastic backed moss poles and am looking to try some of her methods, so I suggest you check her out. Plus her plants are to die for! Good luck with your lazy moss poles.
So I recently tried doing a plank for my dubia and it REFUSED to attach itself... So I had to switch it. It's on cork bark now and I think it's doing a bit better. I've honestly found the most success with the plastic back moss poles. The one I have are from grow vertical and i LOVE them! They stay sooo much more moist than the normal ones. Even now in spring i dont have to water them every week as they stay much more moist! I do use a portable spray hose thing to water them sometimes if I can't be a**ed to bring them to the tub. I'll defo check out roots_leaves_reads though. Thanks for the recommendation!
I will check grow vertical out as I really want to let my plants grow up and away 😃
For anyone interested, Roots Leaves Reads is now The Leca Queen on CZcams.
Thanks for the great video! Looking forward to switching my plants to these lazy moss poles !
No problem! Good luck!
That’s why I use clear yoghurt cups in the top of my moss poles. They have tiny holes and the water slowly trickles down into the moss. Thanks gravity!! :) No more spraying or schlepping larger plants into the shower just to get the moss moist.
What a great idea! I love how people find simple solutions.
I think I'll try that next time with my "lazy" moss pole. I think with this addition to it, it'll always stay moist.
Ooh interesting. Do you know what brand your yogurt cups are? I've not seen any clear ones. I've tried doing similar with water bottles with holes poked into the cap. but I tend to still do that in the shower in case it falls over 😅 I'll have to experiment a bit more and see what works best for me! Thanks for the amazing idea!!
The australianplantguy leaves an inch or two of his moss poles empty at the top and then simply places a water bottle with holes poked into the cap upside down. Works well for me too!
Funnels work too. One in the top of each pole. Tip water in every couple of days. I use clear glass funnels.
This is just one reason why it dries out so quickly is because when you put a pvc pipe in the middle it takes up so much room within the moss pole itself that there is bugger all room for a decent amount of moss. The less moss the quicker it will dry out
Oh yeah I really didn’t like that
I've found also moss poles that are in soil pots tend to get mould from bacteria where as ones that are on lecca or lachuza pon don't because their flushed and don't harbour bacteria like soil does.
That vine needs it's under side touching the moss in order to attach itself.
The lazy moss poles are amazing! And because they have the plastic backing they stay damp for a few days at LEAST before they dry out.
AGREED! So far I'm really loving them and they're staying much more moist than my old poles
Lurking hard on YT for ideas while designing my new climbing plant mounts. Thanks for sharing! What I really want to know where you got that awesome potting mat/tray!?
I got it from etsy. they're soo useful, especially as I have no outdoor space I can use to pot stuff
Hi Emma, great video as usual 😊I recently bought some self watering moss poles and I found them to dry out very quickly and my plants aren’t attaching to them. I wouldn’t recommend them 👎🏾✌🏾
Glad I'm not the only one... but sorry you had to deal with that!
Give us updates dear Emma! I m literally at the verge of making my moss poles and was looking for guidance, I have already seen the lazy moss poles of "unplantparenthood" and thought they were functional and cool looking. My cococoir poles are not doing anything to my plants...they dry too quickly and plants don't clime on them at all...🙄😔
I certainly will keep you updated! So far I LOOOOOOOVE my plastic backed ones from grow vertical. I've still not really found a good alternative in the UK yet but I'm searching and will defo share if/when I do. I'm also pretty happy with the lazy poles as they're easier to make than the plastic mesh ones and I think they look nicer and have stayed pretty damp.
Coir poles are a waste of time imo... They really don't do anything for the plant other than hold it up if it's tied 😂
Check out AustralianPlantGuy’s moss pole videos! He has mastered them and it shows with how huge his plants are.
can you dismantle one regular one (not a self watering one)? I'm in serbia, and I recently bought one for my monstera, and it's just a plastic pipe with sheet of moss tied to it. it dried up in like half an hour. I'm pretty sure that's not how they're supposed to be, but since that's the only place where I found them, I have nothing to compare them to
Typically the ones that come with a plant are actually coir poles rather than moss poles. The fibres they use will not really retain moisture. That sounds like what you've gotten with your monstera. If you want something that actually stays moist, I suggest buying an actual moss pole online or making one yourself. I hope that helps
Instead of trying to spray your poles, which only wets the outer layer, buy some cheap funnels to poke into the top of your poles and then just add a couple of cups of water every few days. You can leave the funnels in place so you just walk around and tip water in. Super easy.
ooooh good tip! thanks :)
Looking good. Maybe next time wet the moss first then stuff the tube. I think you have a winner here. 💚🌿
yeah I think that would help it stick together a bit more during assembly. Thanks for the tip!
Hey, it's been a year and I'm wondering if this method is still working for you? Thanks for the video!
Hey, just wondering where you buy the plastic sheets from?
I got them on amazon. If you want links to the exact ones, shoot me a message on IG
What sort of material did you use for the wicking cords? You said cotton at some stage but I’m not sure if you meant literally the fibre. I would really avoid all natural fibres for wicking, because of the increased risk of mould. I’m super curious as to whether you used synthetic or natural wicking fibre, because I still want to try it.
Sphagnum itself has powerful anti-fungal properties. It’s very acidic, do the plants mind? I guess they stick to tree trunks even with high tannin and other properties.
Another property of sphagnum, not very desirable, is that when it dries out, it is not easily rewet. Two things which could help; one is a drop of detergent or plant-specific rewetting surfactant added to the water. The other is sheet moss, which holds less water but is much less resistant to rewetting; this could be mixed with sphagnum or used alone. I am not really in the plant community and don’t know if this has been tried and tested.
My self watering moss pile went stagnant and smelt awful. It never kept the moss wet. They just don’t work!
Also the ph of sphagnum moss is acidic and I wonder if some plants don’t like that? I do however put sphagnum moss on the surface of all my pots and it appears to keep thrips at bay… probably because of the acid ph?
Yeah they’re just kind of gross!! Interesting about using sphagnum as top dressing though! I’ll have to give that a go sometime!
What kind of plastic do you get for the lazy moss poles?
It's linked in the description 😉
Also with the lazy poles if you use live moss then it will never degrade like the dead dried out spagnum does over time so a live moss lazy pole can literally last for years.
Yeah I'm using live moss! Literally ideal 🙌
Generally when using any kind of wicks I go for nylon since it doesn’t rot and mold the way cotton and natural fibers do
Do they still absorb water though? Since nylon is plastic??
@@GoodGrowing Yeah, they do surprisingly well. You might have to experiment with how much you use or which thickness works best. I use it with all of my pon plants for diy self-watering and it's great because you can clean/boil and reuse it if necessary, too.
@@aniliname Ahh interesting! I'll have to look into that more! Thanks!
@@aniliname what thickness do you use?
@@a.2461 it depends on how thirsty the plant is and how big the pot is. For a standard plant in a 4-6 inch pot I’ll use a wick that’s about a quarter inch thick. But trial and error is best since it depends on airflow and how dry your home is etc
Can you please link where you got the plastic from!
I got this a4 stuff - amzn.to/3yAsNDb
and this a3 stuff - amzn.to/3MakrGk
Moss poles are a nightmare, i been using that method but with plastic netting luckily i dont have many plant on moss poles yet but will have to switch to plastic backing as its getting annoying, keep having to spray them🙄😂
Yeah I think that's what unplantparenthood originally called the lazy moss pole but she switched to full plastic to keep the moisture in. So far mine have been staying pretty moist so I'm happy with them and will likely make more. I just can't be spraying my poles every 2-3 days...
How do you prevent gnats on moss pole? I would assume they love it
they do! I'm currently struggling with some in (and out) of my ikea cabinet. I'm trying mosquito bits at the moment, will make a video on it when I have a bit more info! Sorry I couldn't help more now! 😅
Azamax is lifeeee
Soak your moss first. It becomes hydrophobic if it drys out.
Sorry I keep commenting with the lazy pole instead of doing it like that. The mesh front the other poles use it on the front and make holes in the plastic and cable tie it to the plastic. Look up the lecca queen on CZcams as she does tutorials on how to do them.
where do u get the plastic
I got it on amazon. I can shoot you a link if you want over on IG
Instead of self watering moss pole, it’s easier to drill tiny holes into the poles and fill with coco chunks, barks. River sand and soil, and wrapped with moss… so you just water the pole like you do the container… make sure the poles is not closed on bottom so the water drains straight to the pot and extra runs out if you over water… and the plants will hold on to the medium in the pole just not the moss. Other option is to keep a lid on the pole so light don’t penetrate inside the pole. Also Colloidal silver and or hydrogen peroxide will fix mold problems
ooh very interesting! I've been tempted to try substrate poles
Update please!
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Can u plz make a care vid on venus fly traps plz?
Ooh good idea! I've not got one, but if I ever do, I'll defo make a video on them! Thanks for the suggestion!
youd have to keep the poles wet like drenched every 3 daysish or more or just do planks
I've really struggled with planks personally. When I tried it with my dubia it did absolutely nothing and didn't attach at all.. so far I like the lazy ones as they've stayed as moist as my grow vertical ones!
@@GoodGrowing did you use tape or something else to hold the nodes against the plank? I ask because I find that string and Velcro tape don’t work well. Tape on the other hand works very well as it securely pushes the node against the wood. Some plants are slower to attach than others, but just being held in place tell the plank that it has support, and they will eventually shoot out aerial roots.
Sydney Plant Guy or Leca Queen .... I've made their moss poles.
Peroxide and a tad water in a bottle perhaps but ugh 😑
16:27 your aerating the soil lol
hahaha exactly!
Interesting video. Your plants look overwatered.
It still has water in it because water only wicks 300mm maximum. I'm inventing something better.
Ummm it's ok.. Plants are not supposed to be sterile. do you know how much "mold" is in my plant room? 😂
Yeah I know I know there's tons of mould in plant soil etc but like black mould is not good for us... and it overall grosses me out 😅