Technique to Try: 2-Colour Brush-Applied-Looking Chips...Using Hairspray Chipping? (for model tanks)
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Today, a throwback to a long-abandoned project: Two-colour Double-layer Hairspray chipping
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Everyone is going to say it... Yes, I know, the chipping here is "too much". Like I said in the video, this is supposed to be basically a wreck of a vehicle. You can easily do this technique and simply chip less...just like on the examples I showed in the first 90 seconds of the video.
Personally, I love the heavy chipping!
@@morimoriman4731 Thank you! Maybe I will finish this thing some day :)
I won't say it! And don't listen to the contest judge "experts"- you're absolutely right. Plenty of BMPs and former Soviet vehicles still in service, not only in the middle eastern conflicts, but even in Ukraine will look worse than this. In Ukraine for example, vehicles like this essentially had been abandoned and left as scrap only to be quickly rushed back in to service after the 2014 Russian proxy invasion. Same thing in Syria- it's not like, of all things- the paint layers were being cared for. Paints weren't industrial grade, operations weren't careful with their driving or any maintenance. They do look rough!!
In this particular vehicle I do not see anything exaggerated, if we see the photos of the Chechen war, or the recent conflict in Ukraine, we see 5, 7, 10 and even more infantryman sitting and walking on top of it. It is very logical that the wear of the paint is great.
I think the heavy scratching would look great if the vehicle had a Mujahideen crew. I'm sure they wouldn't be interested in giving the vehicle a fresh lick of paint.
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Thank you Martin. You're still the chipping master you know :) I need to up my game at brush chipping...
@@Panzermeister36 ngl my hs chipping game is pretty weak 🥶
@@NightShiftScaleModels you are too modest, Martin, but both of you are great modellers and painters as well.
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Thanks for the new technic. Love the results! So thanks also for that disclaimer. You are absolutely right!
The end results look great - I'm surprised this technique isn't more widely used. Thanks for sharing!
Many people do something similar, but with multiple ....chippings. As in, they would break the process into chipping the light colour off the red, then apply more hairspray and paint the top colours and chip again. However that takes a lot longer and your chips will not line up to give edge highlights as we see here.
I can't believe nobody ever thought of this before now! It's a very cool idea.
Now make a video where you chip Space Marines and get a million views. :D
.......well, I do have a Space Marines Predator that I want to feature in a weathering video soon :)
@@Panzermeister36 would love to see that. I currently have a chaos chimera sitting on my desk that i'm going to do up in this technique to get it looking rusty as hell. that's one of the advantages of grimdark is you don't need to worry about realism.
Your videos make me wish I never quit modeling some 30 odd years ago.
Looks really good keep up the great work!!
This...is simply awesome. I'm an enamel guy, but this is making me consider making the switch.
Awesome video, my friend! Great work! :)
Thank you, Toni! Glad to hear from you again :)
Very cool technique! Can't wait to do it on an Xwing using a metallic primer then the base color and go after the various color stripes!
Excellent. I will give this a go. I've never mastered the art of brush chipping so this might be the way to go for me. Thank you.
Thanks for the awesome video. This continues my faith in Tamiya as the best choice for hs chipping.
I'd like to see it finished, if you will. It was a very nice technique you applied there.
Best regards.
Very,very good tip. I imagine, if in some of the layers of paint and hair spray, some metallic paint can be inserted, to give a small touch of the arrival to the metal for wear. I think I'm going to try it on some old model.
Excellent idea!
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It's a great method to use for layered chipping. I pretty much used the same technique on the T-34/122 video I did... ah-hem in our collaboration. How's that T-34/122 coming on your end? I hope to see it soon. Good tutorial Evan.
Hey Scott, I'll send you a message :)
Just want to add that I think the key here really is the lacquer thinner. Thinning with x-20 would result in both coats of paint peeling off together.
Cunning plan. I like it! Will definitely be trying this. Cheers
That's great. Really cool technique. 👍
A damn fine job on those chips!
Thank you :)
Great video! Not very often do you see tutorials on two tone hairspray chipping! 👍
Really effective, thanks for sharing.
Great looking effect with the hairspray. I'm surprised that it's not been used before.
Last time I used hairspray, it was a disaster!
I had a Stug IV primed and ready to go, applied the hairspray with an airbrush and let it dry, the same technique I always used . Ten minutes later, the the base coat was stripped back to the plastic by the hairspray . Don't know why this happened but the word disheartened was an understatement . Always brush chipped since.
You've inspired me to try again
Thanks for the video.
Hmm, so you had a reaction between the base paint and the hairspray when you applied the hairspray? That's very odd...what type of paint did you use? I'm interested in this issue.
@@Panzermeister36 Tamiya paint, a mix of hull red and buff to approximate a red primer.
Hmm, that's odd. Which hairspray did you use?
@@Panzermeister36 I use ASDA Smart Price hairspray. It's cheap n cheerful but had never let me down all the times I used it for chipping.
I forgot to mention, I after the adverse reaction, the paint formed shapes like ridge and furrow across the surfaces. The only things salvageable were the wheels and photo etch.
It probably was a one off event but, I as you can imagine, I'm reluctant to try again.
On a plus note, I my brush scratching has improved a lot. 👍
There are 3... sponge chipping works really well for a base for chipping.
Sponge chipping is a kind of brush chipping though...you're just using the sponge as the brush to apply the lighter chips, and then you use a brush to apply the primer colour.
This is very cool ! Thanks for sharing !
Nice
Great video and a good idea. Can you do a video on the benefits and uses of the various thinners? I saw you were using Lacquer thinner with acrylic paints....
Sure!
I did chipping exactly the same but spraying two coats hair spray over primer color after painting I tried the chipping with water mostly primer came out not as much the lighter color. I think better use one cost of hair spray on primer
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Excellent!
How about making a hairspray chipping with just the light color (xf-14) and then adding the primer color with a brush for that 3d effect?
Hey there, a really nice video, thank you for that. Dont you have this model at that stage for almost two years? A question, how much time did you leave between the multilayer painting and the actual chipping?
Yeah, this model has been like this for a long time because I lost interest in it. I waited about 15 minutes before beginning the actual chipping :)
@@Panzermeister36 thanks I realiized and, well actually listened to the end ;) it is a rather short period of time. So it is some time you actually need in close order. The effect is really really nice.
Hallo Panzermeister, a wonderful work again! But I have a question. The first layer colour is redbrown, then you take hairspray, after tjis light green, hairspray again and at the end some different green touchs. But you didn't use white colour. Now the question: Why can I see white borders between redbrown ans green after brush with water? A good example can we see in 5:32. Thanks alot your help. Greetings Olaf
That is the light green colour XF-14 that appears as the light colour on the edges of the chipping. I wanted the light edge colour which is why I applied the XF-14 layer between the primer and the camouflage layers. Hope that helps!
@@Panzermeister36 Oh yes, it's logical!! Thx friend
Awesome work. Quick question, what brand and model is this BMP?
It's a trumpeter BMP-1 with the turret from a trumpeter BTR-70 kit. I had to scratch build the new turret ring area.
Thanks for the prompt reply. Cheers
Very interesting video with great techniques. Any chance of you doing some WWII allied vehicles?
Well I have a video on that subject coming eventually. Overall my weathering techniques are similar...just for the chipping, well olive drab is baked on to the surface and doesn't chip, so I'd use sponge chipping to create wear and scuffs using a slighter darker green. But no primer chipping.
Panzermeister36 Thanks very much for the extra information. I am just about to start weathering my first allied tank - a British Cromwell of June 1944 and would probably have tried the same chipping technique as you have used for German vehicles. Now I know better 🙄
No problem. Honestly it might be a while before I do a video tutorial on painting US olive drab etc, just since I have so many projects lined up. I have at least 15 kits that are built but not painted...and I want to finish a bunch this year instead of starting new projects.
I have a T-34 and Tiger to finish first, then a Merkava and a T29E3 (which is US olive drab). So maybe May-June for the T29E3?
Makes me think...I could just do a brief discussion video in the meantime, explaining some basic stuff like how tanks of each nation were painted. Sounds like something I could do pretty easily. :)
Panzermeister36 No problem, I appreciate you have loads to do and all of your vids are of interest. I'm intending to do some Axis vehicles too and have been busily watching your vids and making notes 👍
Great idea. What are u thinning your paints with for this? I did a white wash and used tamiya lacquer thinner and found it very difficult to chip compared to when ive used water to thin the paint. I was doin a winter whitewash and wanted lots of the paint to come off so the mix with water might have helped better.
I use X-20A or Lacquer thinner
@@Panzermeister36 I found the lacquer thinner made the paint harder to chip. Although it does depend on the type of chips u want and the size I'm guessing.
I tend to use X-20A now when the layer of paint will be chipped, since I agree that it can make it easier to chip.
How would this work with German yellow? Would they layers be Red oxide, hairspray, then a lighter dunkelgelb, hairspray, and then a normal dunkelgelb?
Yes that is how I would do it.
Aluminium parts on BMP didnt had red primer ;)
I based my chipping off of some references that showed and orange-red primer exposed on the side panels.
What brushes do you use for your hairbrush chipping and your painted chipping?
I use a 1/8th inch angular shader for hairspray chipping, and I use a 10/0 usually for painting brush chipping.
Tamiya Laquer thinner work well also with tamiya acrilic color ...right ?
Yes :)
I thought you needed a layer of varnish between the primer color and hairspray layer, so that the primer layer doesn't chip away when the water gets to it? I ask out of curiosity, as I haven't tried this technique yet. Thanks! Oh and I really like the dual color effect!
No, that shouldn't be required. The water will only chip layers applied over the hairspray (it gets under and removes them). Since there is no hairspray UNDER the primer...only OVER it (i.e. under the top colours), the primer is safe. Unless it's a crap primer like Vallejo :D
@@Panzermeister36 I think you wouldn't be able to remove the primer even if you'd apply hairspray under it. It's just too stronk
Yes. Though on this model I didn't use real primer...just Tamiya Lacquer paint colours that look like primer. Nowadays I would simply use Tamiya Red Oxide primer from the spray can.
how long do you leave the hairspray to dry?
10 minutes? It dries very fast.
Is this a OT-90 conversion on a BMP-1
Sort of. It's more supposed to be an improvised Syria vehicle than a Polish OT-90 though.
@@Panzermeister36 May I know will this affect work at all with lacquer paints at all?
It should work in theory, but I do not have the experience to say 100%. If you want to try you should test it out first on a spare model.