Faraz Jaka’s TOP TIPS On 3-BETTING
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2021
- In today’s video, I’m joined by PokerCoaching coach and tournament crusher Faraz Jaka!
We discuss some of the more advanced elements of tournament strategy including stalling for the min-cash, when you should 3-bet squeeze and stack to pot ratio (SPR)!
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What would YOU do with K♥ J♥ on the turn?
Your Stack (SB): 62,000
Their Stack (HJ): 62,000
Pot: 41,200
Board: T♥ 7♦ 5♥ J♦
A) Check
B) Bet 10,000 (small)
C) Bet 20,000 (medium)
D) Bet 62,000 (all in)
I think with thin value + draw, you have to bet. Can get called by T or 7, can spike a heart, can deny equity to As and Qs. How much do I bet? Uhhh, I’m not sure. I’m torn between small (because the value is thin), and big (it’s a draw). Let’s say medium, then. But honestly, I found this one to be a bit awkward.
Check call seems good. You don’t fold out better and I don’t think you get much value from worse. We’re not strong enough to go 3 streets.
Bet small
I would choose B. I want to do a C bet of 20k because we have top pair and we have second nut flush draw (also a diamond draw bluff possibility). Therefore it is a great opportunity to get value out of the other players. The odds are in your favor unless someone has a set or two pair laying around. That's why I would not go all in. Lastly I believe that if you small bet, most players wouldn't fold therefore it gives a chance for players to get lucky on the river.
I like betting small or checking and calling. Betting Large prices out most of the middle/ top pair hands that Faraz is ahead of and only leaves his opponent calling with strong made hands. I think checking is only a good choice if you believe your opponent will bet. Betting 15k probably would’ve been my move. Great video!
The bubble spot Faraz described is precisely why shot clocks should exist. The shortstacks don't have to worry about outstalling each other and the other players don't have to watch paint dry.
Still works out the same. Shot clocks in poker are typically 30 seconds any because that's reasonable time
That's why some poker rooms have a hand for hand rule on the bubble
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Thats exactly why he said he will be taking 30 seconds, that is what most shot clocks in poker are set to.
Faraz keeps you entertained as he explains and you never loose focus. Mr. Little you need to get him back. Good job both of you.
I think both checking and jamming are fine. By checking we can realize our equity very well by check calling any bet which is good for this particular hand. Jamming is good because if our range is already slightly polarized the optimal bet size with the range we have is all in. What I would do here is very opponent specific as i would be less likely to jam against someone who is playing far from GTO because they would not call off anywhere close to enough in most circumstances.
Listening to Jaka's thoughts on bubble play and stalling is a far cry from my early days on the live circuit, some twenty years ago, when the mentality was to go for the win, with something of a stigma attached to min-cashing.
I'm happy to just keep betting each street here, all the time my hand improves, something like third, half, or two thirds pot, mixing it up so I don't get too predictable. The turn gives us top pair, so there is motivation to keep betting. I'm trying to keep control of the betting/pot size and when I feel the villain has taken control of the pot considering folding, but this is obviously harder against better players. I very rarely go all-in, as I would rather give my opponent something to think about, but am trying to see more all-in spots so that I remain balanced, as you are giving away equity if your opponent knows you always have when you are all-in.
Very good content! Love those videos and learning a lot from them. Both entertaining and educational.
Glad you like them!
Great video. Really opened my eyes to some things.
The small SPR makes me want to check because I feel like we don't want to get raise shoved on and be forced to call it off, my only worry is it potentially makes the river harder to play than betting small would as we are potentially giving up the betting lead.
I normally would want to bet here though, as so many worse hands can call.
Check it on Turn. Use pot control now and evaluate V decision on turn, we're speculating less with top pair on board and a solid kicker. We can determine from sizing to check raise or call it.
"I stalled for 30 seconds hahaha"
world class poker content this channel is.......
It’s cool to learn from players who are better than me. Also, I think it’s the first step to becoming a better player in admitting that there are players that are better than you.
I would pile it in on that turn card because any other sizing would leave a position where you could have to call off when you have a good idea you are beat most times.
I think both of you collaborating on strategy here was key to success. It was very interesting and informative. Thanks, Jonathan and Faraz!!! 😊
Glad you enjoyed it, Ian!
Check for pot control with the plan of check calling about a 10k bet knowing my riveted flush which is 20% is only beat by exactly A5s so the riveted flush will be the nuts almost always. Plus we will be good with turned trips and two pair so we have decent equity when check calling this turn.
good video, great hearing your thought process
Glad you enjoyed it
I think checking the turn is good. It controls the pot (and the players only have about a pot sized bet left), and it may induce bluffs or incorrect value bets from tens, pocket 9s, sometimes even 7s.
Exactly. Betting is kind of dumb.
I think the important lesson here is “20 dollars a card, and I only take cash”
I'd check out of position on the turn. We have a marginal made hand. If a heart comes on the river we can always raise or check raise.
I’m betting big on the turn and preferably end it on the turn. This would accomplish several things at once. It would protect top pair, create equity for my possible flush on the river, charge for his flush draw, and force him to get it all in on the turn.
I agree. But I don’t play against the players with this skill level. I just see so many scare cards. Heck even a King on the river and I like my hand less than I did on the turn. Especially if it’s a diamond. I figure I’m going all the way with this hand so I’d rather get it in and be the aggressor, unless I picked up something from the opponent that caused me to think I might not be good.
Bet 20k. Happy with the board - apart from diamond draw - but overall I have enough outs to make the HJ nervous if they are chasing
Ide bet big hoping to get callers trying to hit the flush draw. I feel the big 3 bet raise made the pot big enough that even if players fold you get a good stack. As long as a diamond or Ace don't hit the board I should be in the money.
Trying to figure out what villian had that would call 4 times, only to fold in the river. He obviously put hero on flush draw... So perhaps villian started with mid pocket pr?
Very in depth analysis. Thank you for all the content. What's the best solver to download?
Tough to say because it depends on your general skill level and computer knowledge/set up.
bet middle to deny equity to a flush draw and to see where I am out in the hand. even if I had a good read on the person I would never check in this situation because they may hit that on out they need
King Jack suited on the button 11 big blinds facing a min raise from ep2 with 19 remaining before cashing . was jamming here a mistake and should I have tried for better spots and aim for the min cash?
I ran KK into AA 20 minutes into the main at the Seminole Hard Rock Poker Open.
Excellent information, five or so years ago I sat and watched Faraz play at the WSOP, obviously a top level player
This was god damn brilliant. Faraz and Jon discussed almost everything under 20 minutes, lol. Pre-flop, poker image, cbetting, and much more.
Thanks!
I was originally going to say check but then I realized the jack was the jack of diamonds which brings in a second flush draw. I think that means we should bet, but I’m not sure if a small or medium size is best
Bet small. 13k. The nemesis smooth-called, TWICE, preflop.
This is SO weighted towards pocket-pairs, he is basically wearing a sign that says, "I have 5's, 6's, 7's, 8's, or 9's!"
A check is ridiculous because you have top pair, and the flush redraw. So, on the OFF CHANCE he is slowing playing a set, you still have outs.
A big bet is ridiculous because it's going to fold out the portion of his range you're beating with top pair.
The ONLY TIME I'D CHECK in that spot is if my opponent is HYPER aggressive and is floating at too high of a frequency.
In that case, I'll either go for the check-raise, or check-call, check river to reraise.
I think this is a solid hand I wanna bet for 2 streets with a good river, so im gonna use geometric sizing- half pot turn and half pot river= 20k turn and 40k river
C) 20k
Love this
This is like one of the best flops, and certainly best run outs , you could hope for when squeezing with a marginal hand like this. Far more often, you squeeze, get called, and whiff. Going over the scenarios to C-bet, or check/call or check/raisebluff would have been a bit more helpful.
Yeah although these videos are great I do feel like we more often see favourable runouts!
River you can possibly induce with like a 5000 bet… depends on who the opponent is though
Idk I'd prefer to explore the check option... not because I'm afraid to bet/get in KJhh, but moreover because I am afraid to bet/get it in with QQ KK AA.
I feel like this card favors the opponent so we should be checking.
With that said I am tempted to check jam this particular holding along with KQhh and sets... yes of course we risk running into 89, but we have equity with all those hands, and the 89 is only something opponent can have, he may choose to start betting some of his pair/SD combos or continue with pair Diamond combos and we can stack him on those spots.... and if we have our overpair range we can pot control and not be completley linearly strong by adding in some AK AQ FD turn check/calls as well.
I'd check not looking to fold. Having showdown value but being OOP seems like a good place for it. Also, Faraz seems to be such a nice guy! Keep up the good work. :)
I was thinking the same thing in this spot. If I check here maybe I induce a bluff or value owning themselves situation. If you bet any amount and then get raised on the turn it feels pretty terrible because we probably aren't folding and you think you need to hit one of your heart outs to even win. Check call down anything reasonable seems easier for me to stomach against a rec type player that will probably make mistakes.
Nobody gonna acknowledge Farazs hair?
I think I want to check call. I now have some showdown value and want to get there cheap. If he bets, say half pot, I can call with my draw. Then I am set up for a shove on the river.
probably checking and then pushing or maybe calling
I’ve already taken control of the pot. Why give it away when my hand improves? I’d bet 2/3 - 3/4 pot. Hopefully taken it down there. If not there are lots of cards that improve my hand better.
I would go medium and try to make it look like a value bet
Thank you
I think I am checking.... Not going too fold,too induce. But now that I have showdown, I feel like we don't need to bloat the pot any more.... I don't know
John I have a question, I see you almost om mtt exploiting the hands.
Do you believe sit&Go heads up hypers between €100 and €300 are still relevant? Or is cash game then better like 5-10? I struggle with the exploiment of the hyper games to get an extra edge with gto because it are short games. Can you give me some advice please hoe you think about these games?
I imagine those games are quite difficult.
Great stories!
wow thank you for this
You're welcome, Andy.
I am thinking that I would check, with the smallish bet at first.
The look at Faraz's hair @0:15 haha
I would probably check in that spot.
I hit a J, which can be good enough for showdown. I’m not sure if I want to risk my stack here. I really would say that spot after the J is a flip :)
Faraz is great!
hi its feburary 2024 - whos watching in 2021? Cashing is pretty important to your bankroll maintenance and you're gunna play the bubble a lot more often than the final table. Also if you have 108 paying and you're a short stack punting on the stone bubble to "play for the win" is pretty stupid cause you're so far from the final table anyway. Ideally you'll not be a short stack on the bubble but sometimes poker happens and you gotta make the best of it.
Is there math for 3/4x ‘logic’ ? Thank you for the material 🎉
Ok so if we think about making a better hand fold or a worse hand call. I can’t see worse hand calling in this spot. I also don’t see a better hand folding other than AK off or AQ off. I would dismiss AQ because of the preflop action. Now I understand AK has to fold to a 2/3 bet on the flop unless it’s a suited AK or the naked ace of hearts. Checking the flop is the best option here I think. Original raiser also has a player behind so that’s gonna reveal his hand strength when he acts.
Great video Jonathan. I with this video came out a day sooner...I faced a very similar situation yesterday in the small blind but folded my KJs....it's not a hand I like to call with out of position and generally I think it's too weak to 3-bet when stacks are under 50 BB (my local tournament generally includes a lot of 4-bet all ins with a very capped range (99+ A10s+).
Stalling action should result in a backoff the same way card counting does.
And this guy is stalling an hour before? I doubt his table was happy with that
What would Faraz do if the river is a 7h...?
The problem with shot clocks is that there is no marginal incentive. If I were managing a tournament, I'd give people N seconds to make a decision (N ~= 30), but then they would be able to bank some fraction of the seconds that they didn't use. They can't bank all of them, or you really don't change anything, but by allowing them to bank some of the time, you create marginal incentives to not use all the time allocated to you.
The other neat thing is that you can start to adjust the fraction of unused time that is returned to your bank, depending on how players respond to the incentives.
I am not shy about bluffing so in that situation I raise because I personally would doubt that the other guy would be sitting there hoping for diamonds so the other guy has some other hand that hopefully wasn't a pair of queen kings and aces, but with a king in your hand it reduces the chance he has two kings so I would be hoping they don't have two queens or aces.
Johnathan, can i beat the small stakes if i JUST BUY "Excelling at No-Limit Hold’em" by itself?
No, you have to study.
@@PokerCoaching I meant study the book, sorry
I would check to see where I'm at because I'm not folding with that draw
Life is easy when you hit the river. I am not sure if you said what our villain had, but my guess was a set and he knew you were waiting for the flush. You miss the river, your tournament is almost over. But in tournaments you have to play loose in the beginning. So well played, but also kinda lucky
Broooo, Jonathan has one of, if not THE most dry humour I know for a person! LOVE IT 😂
Like the explanation about lower SPR players have position have less advantage. Also when pot is big, with less chips behind, chips will go in anyway. Great content
i've seen somebody pull that freeroll before back when i was playing free bar leagues, the old "i'm going all in 1st hand" then wait for huge hand, if he got it BAM moves in, if not "i was just kidding". of course i've also seen just psychos do that and mean it too regardless of hand strength.
Bet small on the turn, and check river.
Go All in.
You can see the anger building in JL when he is talking about stalling. JL doesn’t believe in min cashing. He’s there to win or go home. I’ve come to learn that Faraz Jaka’s method here is better when you are short stacked and know a deep run isn’t possible every tourney.
With regard to the bubble talk early on, I played a tournament recently where day 1 ended when we reached 27 players, 28 remained - I had 16bb, probably 6 players were shorter than me with a couple as short as ~7-8bb. Btn chip leader jams, sb folds off their 8bb stack, and I have 99. Is the risk premium in this spot greater than 15%? I assumed I had about 67% vs this jamming range and I decided to call. If my assumption of my average equity was correct, was I getting the right price to call off given the bubble situation? I wanted to give myself a better shot at winning the tournament but should I not consider that on the bubble
You should take into consideration what you prioritize, winning the tournament, or making as much "safe" money as possible by considering ICM on the bubble. Personally, I would have called in your spot if the Min-cash/ day 2 wasn't significant to me.
So when day 1 ended does that pop the bubble and put you in the money? If so I would fold there. You are 22 in chips out of 28 with some with less than half your chips so even a double up + blinds/ante will barely put them ahead of you. If all you have to do is let one bust let them bust and get the guaranteed pay and then make your move. Cashes of any kind are important to keep your tournament RoI healthy.
Hope someone finds this video feb of 2024 and gets spooked
I'll probably be rewatching in '24 after all , it's only 2 years away.
we are betting for value on the turn, 20k sounds good, lots of worse hands will call.
is there anything to stack to pot ratio in cash?
Yes.
Check call
well 40 bucks is a REALLY MIN "min cash" when compared to 10000 of course (plus whatever rake they take)
Where do you guys play online ? Trying to find a trust worthy site for the US
There are none that are super safe.
check the j turn
Top pair and a flush draw I'm probably gonna bet medium
I think we should distinguish between bluffing and lying. Bluffing is betting with the intent to get someone to fold a better hand. Lying is verbal, and not a necessary part of poker. If you lie at a poker table it's still lying. It's not a bluff. You can only bluff with your chips, you can only lie with language. They are not the same.
????? who said the were the same?
Absolutely insane insight of this poker mind ... thank you Faraz .
Glad you enjoyed it!
I think he should have checked the river, to make it look like he missed AK/AQ
Always call with J-4?
At 15:30 Faraz talks about it being less likely that his opponent has a flush draw ... but then he says he thinks it's more likely the opponent has a T or 88, etc. ... but there are 9 hearts remaining and only 3 tens remaining. i get that overall opponent may be more likely to have a marginal made hand than a flush draw, but it seems like he's 3x more likely to have a flush draw than a T. If I'm calculating the odds correctly.
You must look at the actual hand combinations that make sense to calculate the odds.
3 tens left ... but what hands can they form? AT... in 4x3 combinations for example or T9 in 3x4 combinations. Then look at suited heart hands like AhQh that make sense for you... does he play 9h 2h ? No. So it is not so easy as to just say there are 9x8 flush draws possible. Each suited hand is one combination
@@NeuroticNOOB a year later I get a reply that actually makes perfect sense, thank you!
@soundofsilence21 well I guess this is not the optimal place to ask about odds calc and stuff. Comments will get sorted and have less views over time etc.- maybe a forum or poker discord server makes more sense for such questions
according to faraz then what is the "reasonable" time in a tourney to start doing that? clearly taking a full 30 seconds is within rules, that's not at stake.
it is nice that he tells the other players he'll be doing it, and for 30 seconds, not minutes like some do.
" im gonna go all in the firts hand " angle shooting ??
This guy talking about stalling every hand you could tell Jonathan didn't really agree with him same dude who coached Robbie with her Jack 4 hand 🤔 makes sense LOL
We can check-call this hand. We have loads of equity, and we are happy for our opponent to stay in the pot with inferior hands and give them a chance to bluff.
Betting small-medium is also fine, but there are only the gutsshots and ace highs that we might make fold. I don't mind keeping them in the pot. We also have to be prepared call any raise, even if we think our opponent is value heavy.
Betting big is a blunder, in my opinion. We might get hands to fold that we want thin value from.
Can you do a giveaway for a year subscription on your cash game class?
I do that often. Make sure you are on my email list at pokercoaching.com.
bet 20k on turn with flush draw, jam without, imho
Cheers, I have zero bracelets too!
It's so hard to make poker videos interesting to long time students of the game. This new format is more entertaining and makes it easier to watch and absorb.
As a general rule if I think 🤔💬 I'm ahead on the turn I'm usually betting because like you said if you're behind you're not folding so why give your opponent a free card if you're ahead. I think 🤔 players that check are over optimiscly hoping a better hand checks behind.
Glad you enjoy it!
All In no doubt
I would also 3bet pf and bet small on the flop. I think this is a simple check call situation. When we bet we hate it when villains is raising us. We can also call most rivers (Although there are some nasty ones)
I am beginning to think the best poker player's are able to take such risks and aggressive moves as they seem to have better outcomes.
Those are at least the ones that are the most visible.
I have usually played smaller stakes and recently played in a $2500 buy in tourney. I noticed that the good players will definitely be aware of how important the min cash is to you it really changes everything. I was constantly facing aggression it seemed like, which was exactly what they should have been doing. So I think what you said is true especially with your image to the good players
Check
Medium bet
Online ur getting a lot off people limping whit AAS KKs and when u 3 bet they just go all in lol
Same guy who coached Robbie and she called All In with Jack four LOLOL
Shove. I would assume pocket 7’s he couldn’t let go of.
A 20K bet sets up a river shove should you want.
Dude does not let his guest talk lol
It is my channel!
@@PokerCoaching helpful channel but just saying