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New Brew Kit - Using my FM Heat Exchanger Pot and a Trangia Clone
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- New Brew Kit - Using my FM Heat Exchanger Pot and a Trangia Clone
Fire Maple Heat Exchanger Pot • Fire Maple 1L Heat Exc...
Trangia clone set www.aliexpress...
Fire Maple pot 6.7oz / 190g
Pot support 1.3oz / 38g
Trangia clone 3.5oz / 97g
TOTAL 11.5oz / 325g
Boil Time 7:00 mins Run Out 11:00 mins
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Nice setup. I have filled my Trangia Burner with Ceramic Wool topped with a roll of Carbon Cloth and not looked back.
Lights up immediately, no matter the temperature. The pot can be put onto the stand straight afterwards with no risk (so far) of the flame being snuffed. No need to wait for the 'bloom'. The risk of burning fuel spillage in case of an accidental knockover .. greatly reduced. Performance .. no appreciable difference noted.
The heat exchanger pots with an alcohol burner .. I foresee the occasional 'decoke' of the heat exchager fins / vanes. However, no big deal and it will keep idle hands busy 😁.
Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
I have been playing with that Trangia mod. I like its benefits. Bit slower but I am okay with that. Thanks for commenting
I have used that same stand for nearly a decade after picking it up off AliExpress. It's always worked well for me also. I was really surprised when I saw that other channel tear it apart since I didn't understand or agree with most of the criticism and I like most of their content
Unfortunately, they occasionally pick on an item which is better than the review they give it. Hurts their credibility some. Thanks for commenting
I hope you are safe from the fires. Prayers for Halifax and Nova Scotia.
We are safe where I live but the fire is only a few kilometers away. Lots of smoke here. Tense times. Thanks for your concern
Hello Mark and thanks for the video. I've used the "Sterno Inferno" heat exchanger pot with an alchohol burner. The directions said not to do this, but it worked out fine and conserved a lot of alcohol when boiling. It is a good lite weight set up.
I would love to have a Sterno Inferno but they have gone off the market. Thanks for commenting
Another thing you can do is put carbon felt inside the alcohol burner during the winter, or any season. That way if there is an accidental spill it will less likely spill everywhere thanks to the carbon felt soaking up the fuel.
Yes, I have modified an old Trangia clone with carbon felt. Works great but is slower than a burner without. Thanks for commenting
The fancy feast stove would be perfect for that cook pot. :)
That was my first choice. Only thing it does not do well is simmer. Thanks for commenting
7:20 - This Chinese Trangia clones don't have the internal wick of Trangia TB25 burner - a cloth (Linen) tube around the outside of inner tube wall. So use pre heat, even in summer, to speed the bloom (jet start) time. The ALOCS clone have the wick.
So, all the Trangia clones that I have purchased, regardless of "branding" have wicks. Having said that, there is a huge difference in quality among the clones. ALOCS being the best I own, next to the Trangia. Thanks for commenting
Good video and good setup Mark!
I have a Sterno Inferno stove/pot set that I picked up a few years back. It includes a stand/windscreen and heat diffuser pot as well as a base with flip out legs for added stability. Great setup except for the crazy heavy and fragile plastic lid.
They seem to be getting pretty rare nowadays but are worth the purchase if you come across one at a reasonable price.
I have been looking for a Sterno Inferno for a while. I assume they are no longer made new. Thanks for commenting
you can also use the trangia by putting it on the ground then set the burner right side up over top the trangia that creates ore space between the flame and the pot it was desighned to be used that way
Hi Terry, Yes, you can use it that way but I find a lot of flame comes in contact with the stand and does not go through the hole. This slows things down considerably. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft yes if you don't usually windscreen but I usually windscreen the one you promoted years ago and it worked great
Always enjoy your content, particularly the coffee info. I have the same knock off Trangia clone, as well as the GSI rocket stove. Both work great for me. Again, great stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
I'm still pretty new to these stoves, I've made a penny stove and a hobo stove that burn methyl hydrate. I really like the look of these trangia's and they do qualify as cheap but I'm struggling to buy one where i can make one myself hahaha eventually I'll buy one. Thank you for sharing your experience Mark!
The only real advantage of a Trangia is that you can control the heat and store fuel in it. With a DIY stove, you have to let its burn out or try and put it out to recover the alcohol. Thanks for commenting Steve
Yes. I have one of those stands. I also seen that review from the other channel and wondered what he was on about because I don’t think he demonstrated what his problem was. I have a GSI rocket as well. Good coffee. The only con I have with it is it is easily knocked over. A fine grind also takes forever to drip through. I also wonder why Trangia never put the wire spring handle on their simmer rings. It is ace. When I hear you say the word “project” my ears prick up. Have you been trawling the thrift stores again? 👍🏻😂
Sorry if I missed some of the explanation, my boss was talking to me, but your idea of preheating in winter is part of a winter accessory kit from Trangia. I made an exact copy from a thrift store stainless water bottle and a dremel. Works great, but it’s not a stand also. I use the wire stand and heavy foil for a wind break.
Good point about a heat sync for an alcohol stove. I guess people don’t because they go after the most simple ?
Hi Jim. You watching YT at work again? I recall you saying you made a Trangia pre-heater. This does the same thing. Maybe not as well but much lighter. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft lol, I always give my work a full 90%. 😀
Yeah, so mine would be lighter, I’m sure. Unless yours it titanium, because it seems smaller. But mine isn’t a pot stand too. Those lines on the stove are in fact for that preheater. The heater has a solid bottom, with a small fibre glass patch for a wick. As I said, I have separate stand, which I believe I got the idea from you. The stainless dollar store skewers, and the cable crimps. Though I used cut off 22lr cases for one of them. Comes out to a pretty small package. Everything including fuel and lighter fits inside my 1l pot with tons of room to spare.
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Oh, and do you know that o-ring is a pretty basic piece to replace. If you can’t find one in a hardware store, most sex shops will have one…..just don’t ask how I know! 😂😂
Great video Mark. I have the same Trangia stove as you and have had no problems. Nice, light weight choice for a quick coffee in the woods. Stay safe.
Thanks Kevin. The setup is ideal
I have an Optimus heat exchanger pot where the HE is a smaller diameter than the pot. This allows me to use a vented piece of aluminum pipe/ducting as a combo windscreen/pot stand that fits snug to the HE. With a trangia alcohol burner in warmer weather i can get close to 1min./100ml boils. Makes carrying a noisy canister stove on day trips unappealing.
Nice setup. Well done. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for the video Mark! Over the past year or so I have purchased a few items directly from Trangia via their website. That seems to be the least expensive source. I seam to recall another channel that REALLY likes to test stoves having tested the Trangia against the clones, and the original comes out on top, so I've decided to pay a couple bucks more for the original. But I love the idea of using a pot with a heat exchanger!
I have both an original Trangia and a number of different clones. The better clones are very close to the original. The cheap ones, not so much. Thanks for commenting
Great idea using the carbon felt. I saw the same video. It takes a couple of burns for a new stove to break in. I have an ALOCS with the stand, and I’ve never had an issue with it. I think many of the reviewers don’t use the item long enough to find out how they properly function. ✌️🇺🇸🤝🇨🇦✌️
I agree. I can't pass comment on something until I have used it for a while. Thanks for commenting
This Chinese Trangia clones don't have the internal wick of Trangia TB25 burner - a cloth (Linen) tube around the outside of inner tube wall, so their bloom (start jets) is slow.
They need heat - even in summer, to speed the bloom.,
We Have The Same Clone, Works Great. Thanks For Your Demo & Stay Safe There, Mark ! ATB T God Bless
Right on. Thanks for commenting Terry
I have that chinese stand and Trangia burner clone. Stand does not work with typical 9.5 cm diameter pot like my Tomshoo 600ml (reads 650ml but is not). Except stand upside down, then sort of. Works well, but quite slow on my 11.5cm diameter Toaks 1100ml pot. Because the burn distance when the burner is on bottom of the stand is just something like 0.86inch. Needs a disc to isolate from cold ground under the stand. And as you stated a windscreen is needed.
The advantage of a smaller burn distance is less sooting and more economical fuel usage. I suspect that the stand might work a little as a heat sink though.
The guy who totally trashed this stove might be Luke from OutdoorGearReview, with title "Ridiculous Design - Red Camp Mini Alcohol Stove and Stand - Real Review". Then again Luke once could not get Trangia stormcooker, 27 or 25 properly together in his review of that excellent stove ;)
Btw Mark the copy burner is not very strong. The simmer ring holder can disengage from the ring easily. Also watch out for the temperature making permanent formations and the cap then looses ability to hold the stored alcohol inside, instead giving your pot bottom some denatured alcohol flavor. Also the soldered inner wall can disengage, making the burner just some vessel burning alcohol inside, instead a gasifying one, not very effective.
I have quite a few copies or clones. Some are very good like the ALOCS but some are cheap and not worth buying. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I would not trust any cap to seal alcohol burner that is kept inside the pot containing alcohol. My advice is use 30ml measuring cup that fits inside the burner. Leave the cap at home and always burn it empty. Just take the burner with simmer ring/snuffer. Dosaging just enough for to boil. With Trangia fuel bottle and putting the 30ml cup inside the pocket or else wind takes it away.
@@jarmosalonen2068 I agree totally. I keep my burners inside a plastic bag regardless of make. Even the Trangia. I keep my fuel bottles inside plastic bags as well. Thanks
@@MarkYoungBushcraft ALOCS Trangia clone have the internal wick, like Trangia TB25 burner - in this a tube of cloth (Linen) around the outside of inner wall. Other Chinese clones don't have the wick, so they need pre heat for bloom fast.
Thank you for your review.🥰
Mark i too watched his video and came to the same conclusion that he set it up wrong in the first place.
I have one of the very same burners from Ali express and i have used it many times...i am very happy with mine as well.
If you have a problem with the three hands holding up the burner, i just had to bend one of the hands with my thumb back into place, because it had a tad bit too wide gap. It was very easy to push back in to place.
I was disappointed with the review that person gave it, because I knew, having tried out the very same alcohol burner for my afternoon coffee.
I agree. It is a good, cheap piece of kit that works well. Thanks for commenting
Here in the US the GSI rocket only cost $10. I have used mine for several years and for me it makes a good cup of coffee.
Everything is so much more expensive in Canada. I like the Coffee Rocket but it is hard to recommend at our prices. Thanks for commenting
Not to be off topic
How are the wildfires in your area?
Good video Mark , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Hello from British Columbia Canada
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I am sure this is your favourite type of review because you get a coffee at the end as a reward 😂🎉😊😊
I love any method that ends in coffee😊. Thanks for commenting
Could you use a solar still to distill? Probably a stupid question.. but it makes sense that it would. Thanks.
Under the right conditions a solar still does make sense. But because it is slow and does not produce a lot of water, there are a number of better options. For me, I always have lakes or streams nearby. Thanks for commenting
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Thanks for commenting😊
Functional yes but to many pieces for me
I can see that. It could be pared down but the concept of the heat exchanger pot is still valid. Thanks for commenting
well done
Is there a carbon soot buildup on the fins of the heat exchange
The meths I use is sooty
Use Heet in the yellow bottle, no soot at all. It's methanol, not isopropyl alcohol or ethanol. From what I've read, methanol burns cleaner.
We don't have HEAT but the methanol and ethanol we are able to get here does not produce any soot at all. Thanks for commenting
Hey mark do you know what size the gasket is on the trangia/clones? I have a solo stove trangia clone and it leaks like a sib if you have alcohol in it.
It is the same as the Trangia original. I was able to find replacements from a UK company but can't find the link anymore. I see them on Amazon, etc. Hope this helps
That may be through the seam between the bottom of the burner and the top of the burner. They are pressed together. It's a pretty good seam, but not always perfect. You can solder it. Firebox stove sells Trangia burners that have been soldered for a few bucks over the base price.
@@markmartello may very well be. Can't say that it hasn't had a tumble or two in the woods lol.