Camping cooking pot luck? Or Stove game changer?

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024

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  • @PaulMessner
    @PaulMessner  Před 3 lety +8

    If I could only have 1 stove...czcams.com/video/ZUPiIU7hnB8/video.html

  • @Scotland_my
    @Scotland_my Před 3 lety +29

    Not just a great comparison but practically a public service announcement for campers! I'm blown away by those times. Fuel efficiency next? 👍🔥

  • @DanBecker
    @DanBecker Před 3 lety +47

    Now you've got me thinking I should buy that Jetboil pot to go with my Soto. Another great video, Paul!

    • @JasonChiuTO
      @JasonChiuTO Před 3 lety +4

      Olicamp has a similar pot on Amazon.

    • @Rashoop
      @Rashoop Před 3 lety +1

      @@JasonChiuTO That's the one I went with! Looking forward to pairing it with my Soto Amicus, or Windmaster.

    • @texmexia49
      @texmexia49 Před 3 lety

      I’m just wondering how stable the Stash pot is with the Soto Windmaster stove?

  • @Zicora
    @Zicora Před 3 lety +5

    My friend and I tested the jetboil stash burner against the pocket rocket 2 deluxe and used 6 different pots: Jetboil Stash, Olicamp XTS, Stanley adventure (tall stainless one), GSI 1L kettle, Toaks Ti 900ml, and USGI Canteen Cup. We boiled 2 cups of tap water in each pot with the lid off and measured the time and fuel consumption. It was done outside in 68F weather with very light wind under the back porch. Under ideal conditions the jetboil took significantly longer (3-6 minutes) to boil water but was the most efficient in terms of fuel consumption. The pocket rocket 2 burned the quickest with most taking a little over 1 minute but had a fuel penalty of 1-2g more. I think in the wind the jetboil would rapidly lose it's efficiency. I tested the Olicamp, Jetboil, and GSI pots twice using each burner (to do a low canister fuel test) as they were the most efficient pots.
    The Olicamp and Jetboil pots used nearly identical amounts of fuel (Olicamp 5/6g PR2, 4/5g JB, Stash 5/5g PR2, 4/4g JB) which was anticipated it's most likely due to the rings and not the pot itself that makes the difference. The Olicamp seemed to use about 1g of fuel more. I did read some interesting reviews that said that these pot styles seem to lose their efficiency with wide burners such as the whisperlite due to the flame not longer going in the center and spreading out into the rings. The GSI kettle actually did really well, likely due to the large surface area on the bottom (7/8g PR2, 5/6g JB). The kettle was more efficient with the jetboil stove than the pocket rocket, but again, I think this would change if you had to deal with wind.
    My least favorite pot was the Toaks which surprised me. It was the only one where the handles were untouchable after boiling the water. The Toaks pots also have a notorious problem of the lid not being very stable. Overall it came in second for most fuel consumption (10g - PR2, 7g - JB). The canteen cup did surprisingly well and was nice middle of the road in terms of fuel consumption (8g - PR2, 7g - PR2). The Stanley pot did the worst (10g - PR2, 9g - JB) but it seems to be better suited to open fire cooking given it's narrow profile.
    Overall I liked the design and use of the pocket rocket 2 better than the jetboil (handle is easier to turn, wind ring, build in igniter) and it definitely boils water significantly quicker with only a slight fuel consumption penalty of 1-2g. The other problem with the jetboil is that if you aren't using their associated pot the notches cut out make certain pots unstable because they don't line up correctly on the pot stand. Right now my setup is the Jetboil pot (which I wish you could buy alone) with the pocket rocket 2 and a loaner setup with the Olicamp XTS and the jetboil burner. I was a big fan of the GSI kettle as it weighs the same as the Olicamp and had a nice handle.

  • @JimK404
    @JimK404 Před 3 lety +41

    Trangia & heat exchanger pot is a genius combination - I might never carry a gas canister again!

    • @ke6ziu
      @ke6ziu Před 3 lety +1

      Esbit makes a sturmkocher that has a 2L pan, and a 1.5L pan that both have heat exchangers... I bought one a few yrs ago, but I gave it away... it uses one of those pot support ring for pans that are non Esbit... it looked a bit flimsy, but it worked well enough for a tea kettle...

    • @aurtisanminer2827
      @aurtisanminer2827 Před 3 lety

      The sterno inferno kit is made specifically for this setup.

    • @janneliimatainen6186
      @janneliimatainen6186 Před 3 měsíci

      Exactly! This was something I had in my mind to test. Now I don´t have to, it works brilliantly.

  • @Rallygupta
    @Rallygupta Před 3 lety +17

    The five people that disliked this video were disappointed you didn't make a coffee with all that hot water!

    • @vulture3874
      @vulture3874 Před 3 lety +2

      Maybe he was running a bath for Jo.

  • @jjexplore9678
    @jjexplore9678 Před 3 lety +7

    I like the fact that even though you’re a fan of certain types of gear you always give everything a fair go. Great review

  • @KaneDoesOutdoors
    @KaneDoesOutdoors Před 3 lety +7

    Never worried too much about boil times, but fuel efficiency adds up on a long trip.

  • @colinmclean3029
    @colinmclean3029 Před 3 lety +8

    I have the MSR Windboiler, had it since it first came out. Yes, it is a teeny bit heavier than the jetboil but it is quicker to the boil and works fantastic in very windy conditions in Scotland and Wales.

  • @swjfc1554
    @swjfc1554 Před 3 lety +12

    Awesome vid Paul can’t believe how fast the pocket rocket did bloody hell 👍

    • @PaulMessner
      @PaulMessner  Před 3 lety +1

      I was really impressed by how quick all the stoves were.

  • @stetomlinson3146
    @stetomlinson3146 Před 3 lety +3

    Paul, you've transformed my life! Or should I say, my cooking outside life. I have been looking to change my kit for an up and coming Coast to Coast walk. Going from my Trangia Spirit Burner to a gas powered set. I've looked at A Jetboil or Windburner. But the expense was one factor, but this video comparison got my looking at alternatives. I've teamed up a Fire Maple FMC 217 Cooking pot, with the "Flux Ring", with a SOTO Windmaster stove. What a brilliant system! It boils 500ML of water in 1 minute 45 seconds, outside on a sheltered, but blustery spot. With the gas NOT fully turned up. I've swapped the pot lid/cup for the lid off my Zebra 12cm billy can, because it blew off in a gust of wind, and I use my Silicon foldable cup instead. The whole thing packs way nicely and with a large 240 Coleman gas canister the whole thing, including my Titanium Spork weighs in at 814 Grams. The lid change hasn't altered the weight at all, but I might even ditch that as boiling without it is just 5 seconds longer! Total spend £75.00, not including the spork!

  • @steveb1972
    @steveb1972 Před 3 lety +8

    A great video Paul. I use only spirit burners as I’m rarely in a rush for a cuppa, but knowing getting that type of pot could speed things up is always useful to know!👍🏻

  • @kenschindel3525
    @kenschindel3525 Před 3 lety +6

    I did this test a week ago with my MSR pocket rocket deluxe, same result just over a minute and a half. The MSR uses the same amount of fuel per minute as it always does, still at just over a minute and a half it uses less fuel than the Jetboil stove does in 2 and a half minutes.

  • @Woodyinnewjersey
    @Woodyinnewjersey Před 3 lety +13

    The first boil was a cold pot. The second and third boil the pot was hot ? Did that make it quicker ?

    • @MoleStation1
      @MoleStation1 Před 3 lety +2

      Unless fresh water was used for each test, the water would've been a higher starting temperature as well, which could also dramatically shorten the time taken to reach boiling point.

    • @rogan70
      @rogan70 Před 3 lety +4

      I was going to ask the same question. Maybe the pot was left to cool down but not mentioned in the clip?

    • @tomaskonkol8894
      @tomaskonkol8894 Před 3 lety +1

      Even if there its heat leftover in pot the difference its miniscule and arround 3-7sec on 800ml of water. Tested with my own set up.

  • @andycoombes161
    @andycoombes161 Před 3 lety +2

    I love the trangia for its total silence. Like you I don't expect fast boil times. Top test Paul :)

  • @MyVikinglife
    @MyVikinglife Před 3 lety +2

    I love the pocket rocket, it's been my go to gas stove for ages now.

  • @xjessukx
    @xjessukx Před 3 lety +14

    Now alpkit need to start making some titanium pots with heat exchanger on they are missing a trick here

    • @nbartlett6538
      @nbartlett6538 Před 3 lety +1

      Not really. Titanium has poor heat conductivity, only 22 W/mK whereas aluminium is 235 W/mK. You don't really need to worry about what the units mean... it should be clear enough that aluminium is more than 10 times better at conducting heat than titanium. By far the best heat conductor is silver at 430! Some fairly obvious reasons why we don't want that though. The second best seems to be copper at 400 W/mK.

    • @tomaskonkol8894
      @tomaskonkol8894 Před 3 lety

      Titanium with aluminium fins and shroud?

    • @nbartlett6538
      @nbartlett6538 Před 3 lety

      @@tomaskonkol8894 Then the problem is that titanium and aluminium have very different melting points, so they are hard (i.e. expensive) to join.

  • @samwilkins6768
    @samwilkins6768 Před 3 lety +8

    Almost 100k paul! Looking forward to the next van episode!

    • @PaulMessner
      @PaulMessner  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks mate. Windows are getting fitted tomorrow so more work after that.

  • @daleyoutdoors
    @daleyoutdoors Před 3 lety +3

    Great combo with the trangia! Who’d have thought it eh 👍

  • @pedroclaro7822
    @pedroclaro7822 Před 8 měsíci

    Wow the difference it made on the trangia is incredible! Makes me really want to invest in one of those pots for my wood gasifier stove. Afraid of clogging up the heat sink with soot but still might be worth it - accepting that I’ll have to clean it occasionally

  • @neemancallender9092
    @neemancallender9092 Před 3 lety +2

    Paul
    Excellent video
    Great set of comparisons
    I have a Fire Maple 0.9 liter heat exchanger pot
    $20 at 200g
    Excellent pot
    excellent price

  • @cxsey8587
    @cxsey8587 Před rokem

    You perfectly answered my question with alcohol stoves as well, great vid!

  • @andrewbaxter9395
    @andrewbaxter9395 Před 3 lety +5

    Enjoyed this, reminded me of Hiram Cooks boil tests 😀

  • @natea1042
    @natea1042 Před 3 lety

    While this .8L pot isnt a standalone accessory (yet) Jetboil did also just release a 1.5L pot that is essentially identical. Its a little heavy but if someone is counting grams they probably wont consider flux ring pots since they add weight and unless you're gone a long time the savings in fuel wont offset the pot weight. Just thought I'd mention it since a lot of commenters seem to want a pot like this. Just search for Jetboil 1.5L Ceramic FluxRing Cooking Pot.

  • @alangauld6079
    @alangauld6079 Před rokem

    I bought a 1L FireMaple aluminium pot on amazon with a flux ring and it drastically reduced boil times with my BRS 3000 stove. (They claim 30% improved times in their blurb which i'd say was about right.) The BRS pot stand fits neatly inside the ring too which makes it pretty stable even in wind. And I can fit my 250g canister + stand + stove + sparking steel, all inside the pot. For less than £30 its one of the best buys I've made.
    PS. I was really interested in the Trangia result though, I have one of those and never use it because it's so slow. I might dig it out and try it with my pot.

  • @ntfd60
    @ntfd60 Před 3 lety +1

    Take a look at the Olicamp XTS pot. The heat exchanger really brings down the boil time.

    • @FJJ18
      @FJJ18 Před 3 lety +1

      The same pot is also sold under the Fire Maple brand on Amazon for even cheaper and with metric markings.

  • @azclaimjumper
    @azclaimjumper Před 3 lety +2

    I rec'd my Fire-Maple 1L Aluminum heat exchanger pot this afternoon.
    I ran 3 complete comparison tests between the new heat exchanger pot & the one I've been using which is a 750ml Titanium Toaks.
    I have & used my Soto Windmaster stove. For all tests, I turned the stove's heat output control wide open. Yes, I added the same volume of water (24oz) that was the same temperature to both pots in all 3 comparison tests.
    Boil times & fuel consumption between the 2 pots were infinitesimally inconsequential.
    I'm planning to return the new heat exchanger pot to amazon tomorrow that I paid $32.75 for.
    Not what I was expecting. Adverting/Promotion claims of 25%-30% lower boil times & fuel savings have no more substance to them than the tooth fairy. Definitely not worth the added cost or weight.
    Curiously, Soto hasn't marketed any Heat Exchanger type of pots to compete against the Jetboil Stash system which is specifically designed for solo hikers/backpackers/thru-hikers. Considering that Soto is THE company that first introduced fuel-efficient stoves with "Regulators" you'd think if heat exchanger pots actually resulted in lower boil times & significant fuel savings they would have been one of the first companies to introduce heat exchangers on their pots. That SHOULD tell you something. Just a thought/observation.
    I'm hoping others will compare the pot they've been using with an aftermarket Heat Exchanger type of pot. I eagerly look forward to their test results.

    • @SpaceExplorer31
      @SpaceExplorer31 Před rokem

      I’ve experienced firsthand that their is a big difference in HE pots. Optimus, JetBoil pots make the best HE pots hands down.

    • @azclaimjumper
      @azclaimjumper Před rokem

      @@SpaceExplorer31 I try another HE pot when Soto makes one. I have confidence in their products & advertising claims.

    • @SpaceExplorer31
      @SpaceExplorer31 Před rokem +1

      @@azclaimjumper good to know. I love Soto products!!

    • @azclaimjumper
      @azclaimjumper Před rokem

      @@SpaceExplorer31 I emailed Soto shortly AFTER I'd bought their 4Plex Windmaster stove & told them I'd like to buy a set of rubber gaskets for my stove. They sent me a complete set, no charge. I've not had to replace any rubber gaskets, however, I now have 'em as spares if or when needed.

  • @allenwilson5235
    @allenwilson5235 Před 2 lety

    Good test. I had tested my pocket rocket against my Jetboil with a regular pot using the adapter, but I never tested the pot on other stoves. I have a gen 1 Jetboil, so it is a small diameter pot was wobley. I never thought of trying it with the wider Jetboil pots.

  • @grevedanko
    @grevedanko Před 3 lety +1

    Yes! The comparison I was waiting for. Thanks!

  • @mysterylovescompany2657
    @mysterylovescompany2657 Před 3 lety +1

    Brilliant video, Paul. These sorts of "in the camping lab" videos are an interesting shift, just for something different.
    I'll always love your trip videos best, but these are great, too. 🙂

  • @joekelly9369
    @joekelly9369 Před 3 lety

    Iv been using a vango ground level folding stove with braided lead to gad cylinder for over 13 years , and heat exchanger 1L titanium pot , if the heat exchanger does anythong its saving gas , iv had the tall ones topple in high winds , the higher flame catches the breeze you need bigger wind breaks

  • @SimonOutdoors
    @SimonOutdoors Před 3 lety +1

    The pocket rocket is wild, such a winner. The pot massively improves it too. Thanks for another top video Paul

  • @markatchison9974
    @markatchison9974 Před 3 lety +1

    Impressive. It's all in the pot design & not so much the burner. I'm surprised Jetboil don't provide a better burner for the money. All things considered; I've bought a heat exchanger pot. The Vango Ultralight Heat Exchanger. I have a cheap stick stove for forests & a very old Gaz gas stove for the hills. Here we go. Thanks Paul.

    • @markg6320
      @markg6320 Před 8 měsíci

      Hi - how much does just the Vango pot and lid weigh please? Thinking of replacing my existing pot/lid combo but it only weighs 110g together so I'm worried the Vango will be much heavier. Can only see the weight of the whole Vango package (incl cutlery, bowls etc) of 387g.
      Many hanks in advance. Mark

  • @gordonanderson9432
    @gordonanderson9432 Před 3 lety

    Been using a windmaster with an alocs heat exchanger pot for years now. Much better than a jetboil. Last jetboil I had was the sol ti. The windmaster is and new soto stoves are just the best stoves available. Remember the windmaster will perform outdoors in the wind where the pocket rocket 2 and jetboil won't. I've tried and own much of the competition as well. Soto stormbreaker is equally impressive and I use the bigger alocs pot on it.

  • @richlovin2173
    @richlovin2173 Před 2 lety

    After watching your video I bought the Bulin tea kettle with the flux ring. Using the Solo Windmaster I got very short boil times also. Thanks for the video - it helped!!!

  • @robertgullickson8758
    @robertgullickson8758 Před 3 lety

    Wow! A minute and 37 seconds! That’s incredible. That pot is a great improvement. Sounds like a good investment.
    Thank you for your videos. You keep me involved and motivated.

  • @thomasmusso1147
    @thomasmusso1147 Před 3 lety

    An interesting comparison .. very interesting .. thanks.
    Now my Trangia (and Gel Fuel Burners) can go 'Turbo' 😊.

  • @garrycollins3415
    @garrycollins3415 Před 3 lety

    I thought I'd seen every possible stove video that can be made. I was wrong. Great video with data to geek out on.

  • @keithlivingstone2525
    @keithlivingstone2525 Před 3 lety

    Love my Jetboil Flash. Used it half a dozen times in the past fortnight to make coffee and cook sausages and bacon whilst hiking and biking. Thanks for the recommendation.

  • @jpnurminen
    @jpnurminen Před 3 lety

    I just got the Jetboil 1,5L Ceramic Cook Pot (with fluxring) to be used with my PocketRocket Deluxe & 2. The recession in bottom of the pot fits great on the PocketRocket. I think I have to do some boiling this weekend.

  • @bertman4
    @bertman4 Před 3 lety +2

    Brilliant Paul. That heat exchanger made a huge difference. Would be curious to see how the Trangia with heat exchanger compares to, say Trangia with flat bottom pot with Caldera Cone, which is a different way to try to capture all the heat.

    • @techguy9023
      @techguy9023 Před 3 lety

      Grizzle gear was doing an A.T. through hike . He had a homemade caldera cone in the winter and gave up on it. I tried making one but it boiled the alcohol out of the Fancee Feast burner.

  • @sitgesvillaapartmentneilsc7924

    They would all perform better with the lid on, thats why I tend to use a kettle over a pot. Again in external conditions at the end of the day the best thing in your rucksack will be a decent windshield, all these timings go out the window outside and in cold conditions.

  • @SweeneyTTodd
    @SweeneyTTodd Před 3 lety +1

    Great these comparison video's always reminds me of the Hiram Cook series of videos
    I'm an alcohol stove/burner fan as i'm never in a rush when i'm out and enjoy the silence of them , saying that i do sometimes use a Primus No96 paraffin stove that has been passed down in my family generations ,it's a roarer ! heavy smelly but great fun old school !
    Great video
    Edited bit , i nearly forgot great to see the pots improve the boil time with the Trangia !
    Best regards Shaun

  • @markwalker6757
    @markwalker6757 Před 3 lety +1

    Just ordered a stash. It would be interesting to know which set up used the most gas. Give me something to do with my other stove this weekend. Bought the stash for the weight and the fact it is a complete system. Thanks for this video. We'll be back in the Lake district soon before the masses descend. Hope they behave better than last year. Leave no trace.

  •  Před 3 lety

    Well it's exactly what I expected at the video before with just the titanium pot. Enjoyed the video. Greetings from Taiwan

  • @starlingblack814
    @starlingblack814 Před 2 lety

    Flux rings have increased the efficiency of my alcohol burners by approximately 30%. Yeah, they ain't no "flash or stash" but I don't like the sound o the propane stoves. Thanks for the video.

  • @brucemcfarling7810
    @brucemcfarling7810 Před 3 lety

    I have tried it with the solid alcohol fuel disks common in China, and it speeds boil time up for those as well.

  • @RICHARDROLLINSONDESIGNPHOTOGRA

    As you mentioned being a ‘fan boy’ of Jetboil, but I’m glad you did this test again. There is no right or wrong and it is down to personal preference, but it was nice to see the results and for people like me who now prefer value for money over brand inflated pricing.
    Hope the van build is going well

  • @chrishanssen1980
    @chrishanssen1980 Před 3 lety

    Paul this feels an actually important video! The improvement on boil time on a trangia is mind blowing! It makes it hard to not take it on the hills again.

  • @paultownley5825
    @paultownley5825 Před 3 lety +1

    I've suspected this for a while! Nice work Paul 👍

  • @oddmanout98
    @oddmanout98 Před 3 lety

    Wow. The most surprising bit for me is the Trangia with the pot and the heat exchanger. I'm not normally in a rush so I tend to carry a Trangia, always cary it as a backup anyway. Thanks very much Paul. Paul

  • @piggymito
    @piggymito Před 3 lety +1

    Jet boil won't be happy with you! 😂
    Thanks for a good honest video dude!

  • @Rickstar270
    @Rickstar270 Před 3 lety

    Great video Paul. I know myself and many others wanted to see this test. Thanks for taking to time to do it. The results are what I expected.

  • @nickforsythandkids
    @nickforsythandkids Před 3 lety +3

    I was really shocked by the trangia with the flux ring. That’s amazing. I think I would prefer to wait the 5 minutes with the peace and quiet rather than blast the gas for 1 minute 30.

    • @thomasmusso1147
      @thomasmusso1147 Před 3 lety

      Yep, I'm not into running to catch a train during such times.

    • @michaelwhittaker5432
      @michaelwhittaker5432 Před 3 lety +1

      HI Nick ,after 30 years of been a gas snob I have gone back to using a Trangia yes slower but i really enjoy the silence more maybe its an age thing ...!

  • @j3hikes444
    @j3hikes444 Před 3 lety

    i love the jetboil pot, hate the stove. i have found the pot works great with my alcohol stove (cuts cook time by a few min) and the BRS stove fits perfectly underneath.

  • @neemancallender9092
    @neemancallender9092 Před 3 lety +1

    A major difference is the flame pattern of the stove head
    Both tested have a very focused pattern that stay within the fins of the heat exchanger

  • @trinovantian1
    @trinovantian1 Před 3 lety

    Excellent comparisons and advice Paul......cheers.

  • @gild484
    @gild484 Před 3 lety

    For some reason, I didn't think that you could use the heat exchanger pots over a open fire. Thank you for the video.

  • @hypo345
    @hypo345 Před 3 lety

    I just purchased an Optimus terra HE pot and tested it with the SOTO Windmaster (2 cups/473ml) of water and got a boil time of 1:40
    I also used a SOTO fusion trek remote stove and that gave the best time I have ever achieved of 1:22 seconds.
    I had been sceptical of HE/flux ring technology but the gains are real and substantial.

  • @moe_1886
    @moe_1886 Před 3 lety

    Great experiment Paul, what a difference that heat exchanger makes. Very impressive. Thanks for taking the time in doing this video. Cheers.

  • @AndyWragg
    @AndyWragg Před 3 lety +2

    HI mate good comparison, it was the only thing missing when you did the last test of that bling Jetboil Stove, next time wear a white lab coat and weigh the gas after each burn. Not long till we can go out camping again!!

  • @earlebacciochi9796
    @earlebacciochi9796 Před 3 lety

    Thanks👍 amazing results, surely manufacturers must be aware of this efficiency!

  • @markashworth6293
    @markashworth6293 Před 3 lety

    Love the fact the trangia boils much quicker with a flux ring I will try with my oex cook pot that has this technology on it.

  • @AntwonDaBusiness
    @AntwonDaBusiness Před 3 lety +3

    No company makes a solo sized heat exchange pot. They are all too damn large. Would be nice to see maybe a 650-700ml sized pot rather than 1-1.5 liters.

    • @neemancallender9092
      @neemancallender9092 Před 3 lety +2

      Fire Maple have small flux ring pots
      On Aliexpress
      They are very good quality

    • @natea1042
      @natea1042 Před 3 lety +1

      Depends what you're doing with it but I dont consider 1-1.5L too large. I actually think 750ml and below are comically small. Dont forget that capacities are with water literally filled to the brim which isnt realistic. Most people force a small cup on themselves for the weight savings rather than functional reasons. In reality a freeze dried meal takes anywhere from 400-600ml on its own so you have to double boil in those cups for the meal and coffee or tea. You can forget about cooking a decent portion of pasta, or really any reasonable meal, in 700ml too.

  • @cormac6536
    @cormac6536 Před 3 lety

    That's a brilliant follow up Video Paul. Great to see it.
    Also, a real eye opener on pots with flux rings, especially if you want to use an alcohol stove. Thanks Paul.

  • @gilljo1
    @gilljo1 Před 3 lety

    I do like the jet boil but it's too expensive. That pot worked great with the little alcohol stove. Good vid. Thanks and stay safe.

  • @markashworth6293
    @markashworth6293 Před 3 lety

    I am glad I bought the oex cook kit pot, it has the heat exchanger system on it and I've been impressed by the boil times with the oex etna stove.... took it out last weekend for a bike ride and had a nice coffee when I stopped off for a picnic.

  • @spartantkd1970
    @spartantkd1970 Před 3 lety

    Happy birthday Paul! Thanks for video btw

  • @keithguy8573
    @keithguy8573 Před 3 lety

    Looks like I need a new pot for my pocket rocket and trangias, my missus will be pleased 😁

  • @lechprotean
    @lechprotean Před 3 lety

    I don't particularly care about the speed, but I do about efficiency - the jetboil style pot uses less gas in the end so I can carry a smaller gas canister for a given trip. Frankly for my overnighters where I usually only cook 1 upper and 1 breakfast even 1 100g cartridge is ok and with jetboil style pots, that could last me the whole weekend...

  • @georgecooke5639
    @georgecooke5639 Před 3 lety +8

    I do need that trangia triangle adapter plate. Where do you get one of those?

    • @nictorrance1345
      @nictorrance1345 Před 3 lety +1

      I'm sure he said in the video that is pinned to the top of these comments his friend made it for him. Maybe we can convince him to make us one too?!

  • @garybarker9355
    @garybarker9355 Před 3 lety

    Trangia with bioethanol has to be the way forward for carbon footprint and pairing with a flux ring pot not only brings the boil time down indoors but actually allows a pot to boil at all outdoors in the wind.

  • @stumpymacgabhann
    @stumpymacgabhann Před 3 lety

    Thanks for that. Cheers. Not long before we are back on the hills.

  • @Sir_Chuckmyster
    @Sir_Chuckmyster Před 3 lety +8

    Now that was fast. No excuses now for getting Jo her tea in bed 1st thing of a morning now 😁

  • @MikeycatOutdoors
    @MikeycatOutdoors Před 3 lety

    I have an Optimus Terra Weekend heatsink pot & lid pan set for stashing my Svea stove into. The heatsink flux ring makes a difference but like others said, a removable one would be handy for campfires.
    Thanks for doing the dirty work of comparing stoves & pots.

  • @northumberlandmountainhopper

    Great test video
    Wonder if any wind would have made a difference to the cheaper pot, but use a wind shield and save some money
    Great

  • @stevec-b6214
    @stevec-b6214 Před 3 lety

    this is great intel buddy! thanks for the work you put in. I cranked up my 40+ year old optimus paraffin pressure stove (bought for the Coast to coast with four of us to cook for) just to see if it still works, after many years, it works perfect, very heavy but you could weld with it is so hot

  • @azclaimjumper
    @azclaimjumper Před 3 lety

    This video sure takes the wind out of Jetboil's sails.
    One of your subscribers on the other Jetboil Stash video comparison vs other stoves referred me to this video.
    Just as I suspected, the lower boil times are due to the heat exchanger type of pot, not the stove.
    I've just ordered the less expensive Fire-Maple 1L Hard Anodized Aluminum Pot for $30.00 on amazon that I will be using with my Soto Windmaster.
    I'm willing to bet the farm & EXPECT Soto to come out with their version of a Pot with its built in Heat Exchanger shortly.
    Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

  • @andycoombes161
    @andycoombes161 Před 3 lety

    Glad you did that test Paul... I knew that would be the case as I've been using heat exchanger pots with great results.... Even with a Trangia rip off.... MUCH cheaper

  • @markperry4474
    @markperry4474 Před 3 lety

    Really useful video, thanks. I echo what someone else said about this being a game changer for alcohol stoves.

  • @mariogalarza5036
    @mariogalarza5036 Před rokem

    Thank you

  • @InimitaPaul
    @InimitaPaul Před 3 lety

    I may have to ditch the Jetboil burner for an MSR, I already have the Minimo set up and the burner is huge. Glad I went with the Minimo now, the pot is even better than I thought, it will likely replace my standard Ti pots.

  • @timanderson8833
    @timanderson8833 Před 3 lety

    When I'm out in the wild, the boil time is not as important as the fuel used. -It would be great if you could weigh the canister before and after.

  • @srlewis29
    @srlewis29 Před 3 lety

    Great Great demo with the pots, but where the jet boil does exceed is in the amount of fuel that consumes.

  • @propellerheadnj
    @propellerheadnj Před 3 lety

    I love how informative and fun your videos are. I never was a big fan of jetboil rigs since the cost was pretty high and I couldn't see carrying the extra weight. Now the wife has agreed to some day hikes (miracles do happen). Since we will be re-hydrating dry meals, this is starting to make sense. I just picked up the Bulin 1.5L pot and the matching windproof infrared stove on Amazon for around $65 USD. Can't go wrong for that price. Oh well, buying more gear is fun anyway. :-)

  • @James-km7yz
    @James-km7yz Před 3 lety

    Real shame you didn't do this with your scales as you did last time. Adding fuel efficiency to this information would give users everything they need. 👍

  • @SMafam5
    @SMafam5 Před rokem

    I prefer titanium to aluminum. I have the budget friendly Bulin stove& pot with heat exchanger which rivals quick boil times. Looking for a titanium heat exchanger.

  • @ruairidhalexander7631
    @ruairidhalexander7631 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video.
    Where did you get the adapter ring for the Trangia Triangle stand to enable using smaller pots?

  • @RS899847
    @RS899847 Před 3 lety +1

    STOP POTTING ABOUT AND GET THE VAN FINISHED😊👍

  • @johnorille8318
    @johnorille8318 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for demonstrating this as I’ve been very curious how the JB Stash pot would do with other stoves and heat exchange type pots. I suspect the JB Stash fuel efficiency smashes that of the other stoves and pots.
    Great show!!

  • @kpj5
    @kpj5 Před 3 lety

    Very timely thank you!

  • @pops6638
    @pops6638 Před 3 lety

    Another great video Paul. I’m loving your kit comparisons videos. Very useful information for your captive audience and newcomers to your channel.

  • @graemesaunderson4218
    @graemesaunderson4218 Před 3 lety

    Great comparison.Very handy to know these stats.Thankyou Paul.ATB

  • @babboquintale7525
    @babboquintale7525 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you Paul, this is great info!

  • @alancarter4270
    @alancarter4270 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for this details of your experiment. Awesome

  • @mihaidavid359
    @mihaidavid359 Před 2 lety

    Me at 4AM: "Hmmm...interesting!!!"

  • @mikelambrou4462
    @mikelambrou4462 Před 3 lety

    Great stuff Paul. So next time I go out I’m going to take the pot from my old Alpkit Brukit with my Windmaster. If your experiment is right I’ll maximise boil times and save some weight too - win win! Plus the Windmaster is much better at simmering that the burner that comes with the Brukit. Could be good hack - thanks!

  • @Francois_Dupont
    @Francois_Dupont Před 3 lety

    thank you very much for testing my theory!

  • @wayneberry8703
    @wayneberry8703 Před 3 lety

    That’s a great review on those pots, Paul. I’ve done the same tests myself and found mixing different units can be beneficial for sure, mate.
    Cheers from Down Under 🍻

  • @northernswedenstories1028

    The only problem with the trangia test is that we really need to see how much fuel was consumed. It is quite common when trying to make alcohol boil water quicker that the alcohol starts to overheat in the burner drastically reducing efficiency at the cost of speed. Not saying that's the case here but it's a pretty important aspect