Update from Fire Maple 1. The handle is coated with PVC instead of Silicone 2. The TPE lid is food grade, but not BPA FREE, actually till now, only Tritan is proved to be BPA FREE plastic. Other plastic are not BPA FREE.
I have had this set up for a good couple of years I use this pot with the Fire Maple Titanium Stove FMS-117T @ 103 g The pot is 190 g So my setup is 290 g, which is very light I use the stove on low volume so it uses very low gas as apposed to high gas If you put your hands next to the pot there is no heat loss to the air it is straight into the pot So the boil is slower but the gas usage is minimal So a large canister lasts for weeks with real cooking I also made a cosy for the pot, so I boil food and leave it to slow cook
Nice review Mark. I like what you did to the lid. I have an Olicamp XTS pot, and have been fiddleing with it for years. They are nearly identical. This style pot is a race car when you match it up with the right size isobutane, and works well with alcohol stoves too. The trick is to match it up the base ring with the support arms on the stove or stand. Head space is crucial for true speed or efficiency. Too close and you choke it out. Too far away and is slows down. Bottom line is that it works great and the lid can be reworked or replaced if needed (through Olicamp). I am on my original lid, but I really baby it. When I was a Scout leader, we used to race boil times with 500ml/16oz...this was Always as fast as a Jetboil in real life. Thanks again for your vids.
Thanks for the review, Mark. I own the pot as well. The only thing I don't like about it is the plastic top. It has hardened and discolored over time. I do like the pot. I have similar results in terms of boil times. I wish they made an aluminium top for it. It would be excellent rather than just good.
Thanks for sharing. No reply necessary, thank you. Pity you did not step through the 1,2,3,4 cup volumes /ti pot comparisons. Easy for me to say, you are doing the work. But you did get the pot free to do a review on. Always a pleasure watching your informative video. Many thanks. Take care Best regards Colin
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yes please, as a greater volume of water could provide water for a rehdratable meal and a drink at the same time. Or, that is; a drink whilst awaiting for the boiled water to soak in to the rehidateable meal. Like many others I always enjoy your content, and am very grateful for your passing on your useful findings. Take care Best regards Colin
My only concern with using this pot over a wood fire would be to use only hardwoods. Out here, we have primarily softwoods - pine, spruce, etc. I would expect the heat exchanger to be cool enough to cause the pitch in the coniferous wood to condense out inside the fins and quickly plug them up.
I agree, the more I think about it, the less I want to burn wood for that reason. I may consider wood pellets in a wood gas stove. Thanks for commenting
G'day Mark, not bad mate, concur 1 L is a good size to do most things without going overboard. I reckon the heat exchanger does make sense, but for me personally, I'm questioning whether I really need that feature. Cant say I'm a fan of plastics of any description around flames, though that lid would be very good for transporting food or other kit inside, but then you're left with no metal lid to cook with. I do like that Fire Maple offer a range of options depending on your MO/preference, and decent quality at fair prices too; like the look of the Alti 900 ml Ti pot & lid and the Antarti 1 L stainless pot/lid without the exchanger as a couple of examples. Cheers Duke.
Hello Duke. I am revising my suggestion about using this with fire. I expect the fins will get fouled up with smoke residue. I have a number of other Fire Maple items coming for review as well. Great value gear for sure. Thanks for commenting
I would love to see a comparison between this pot and the larger 1.5l heat exchanger pot. I'm wondering if the wider base of the larger pot will capture the heat better than the narrower pot. And see if it is enough to make any measurable difference. I also do winter camping in the Sierras and just bought a Firemaple remote canister stove with preheat tube. I see Firemaple saying their Polaris pressure regulator stoves work great in cold weather. I'd love to know if the Polaris regulator is better in freezing temps that the preheat tube types? Thanks
Just so I am clear, you would like me to compare the smaller Fire Maple pot with the Larger Fire Maple pot to see if the diameter will make a difference? Also, I have two Fire Maple stoves with preheat tubes that I am testing and waiting for colder weather. I can add in the Polaris to see how well it works. Thanks for commenting
I suppose that lid is great at keeping things secured inside during travel, but I would rather have an easier to remove lid while boiling. I have a 1.8 liter heat exchanger pot; a smaller one would be handy. Mine drips water down the side of the pot every time I do a pour over coffee. I wish it had a bit of a lip.
To avoid the dripping you can use anything like a spoon or stick pressed up against the lip of the pot and descending in the direction you want the water to go. Surface tension helps guide líquids.
I've tried running these experiments to see how long a stove and pot will boil. Problem is there are far too many variables to control. The pressure of the fuel in the can changes as the can is depleted, changing the gas output at any given valve setting, making it impossible to know how to set the valve, then, how can you really be sure you are setting the valve the same way even if you use a new gas on each attempt. The temperature of the gas also impacts the gas pressure and probably also the barometric pressure. Starting water temperature is another variables. Some day, someone will do a large, well controlled study.
Love the heat exchanger additions and have been a diehard since my first MSR pot but the 1.5 litre kettle has to be the most utilized due to its slightly wider base.
Too bad. @@MarkYoungBushcraft Patagonia sells a heat-exchanger SS pot with their wood stove, i was just wondering if anyone had done it with a random pot. Their pot is the QuantuMiiR if you're curious. SS pot, Copper heat exchanger. Nice but not worth your money imho.
I have used a Bulin HE pot on a wood stove....seemed to work ok. But after 4 or 5 burns I think you lose a lot of efficiency due to the exchanger fins getting all sooted up....and let me tell you, it's no treat trying to get that crap out of the fins, not worth it in my opinion. Thank you for your video, I always enjoy them....
I don't have the SOTO Windmaster but I do have the Campingmoon version which almost identical (I have a video on this stove). It works perfectly with this pot. Thanks for commenting
HE pots are definitely more efficient. Nice pot but I prefer my Widesea which has a small pot as a lid which would work as a cup if needed plus i store small containers of Coffee Tea and sugar in the small pot.
If you mean vapours from the metal heating up, then no. The aluminum is hard anodized and very safe to use, especially if you ensure there are always liquids in the pot. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft is the hole on the bottom of the stove big enough that you could potentially put the stove directly on a side ported alcohol stove. Looks like you could potentially even put it directly on a trangia... Might not be the most efficient that way.
Too bad the fire maple didn’t come with Canadian maple syrup….😉😘 Yep, they should have a made a better way to grip the lid. I wonder if some of these companies ever take the time to test out their equipment.
Garbage ....I did 3 separate boil tests between this pot and my 1100ml Toaks titanium pot with .5 liter of water and there was no difference between the boil times. This was using a Soto Windmaster stove. Not worth the money as a heat exchanger pot over my Toaks, especially for the weight penalty....
I am not arguing with you results; however, I got different results using a Lixada 1100ml pot and Campingmoon XD2F stove. See video description if interested. Thank for commenting
Update from Fire Maple
1. The handle is coated with PVC instead of Silicone
2. The TPE lid is food grade, but not BPA FREE, actually till now, only Tritan is proved to be BPA FREE plastic. Other plastic are not BPA FREE.
Thank you for such a thorough review. I've just bought one for my 14-day wild camping trip to Scotland. 😊
Most welcome. I am sure you will enjoy using it. Thanks for commenting
I have had this set up for a good couple of years
I use this pot with the Fire Maple Titanium Stove FMS-117T @ 103 g
The pot is 190 g
So my setup is 290 g, which is very light
I use the stove on low volume so it uses very low gas as apposed to high gas
If you put your hands next to the pot there is no heat loss to the air it is straight into the pot
So the boil is slower but the gas usage is minimal
So a large canister lasts for weeks with real cooking
I also made a cosy for the pot, so I boil food and leave it to slow cook
Excellent advice. Thanks for commenting
Nice review Mark. I like what you did to the lid. I have an Olicamp XTS pot, and have been fiddleing with it for years. They are nearly identical. This style pot is a race car when you match it up with the right size isobutane, and works well with alcohol stoves too. The trick is to match it up the base ring with the support arms on the stove or stand. Head space is crucial for true speed or efficiency. Too close and you choke it out. Too far away and is slows down. Bottom line is that it works great and the lid can be reworked or replaced if needed (through Olicamp). I am on my original lid, but I really baby it. When I was a Scout leader, we used to race boil times with 500ml/16oz...this was Always as fast as a Jetboil in real life. Thanks again for your vids.
Yes, the similarity to the Olicamp is one of the reasons I asked for it. I agree, with a bit of testing this is hard to beat. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for the review, Mark. I own the pot as well. The only thing I don't like about it is the plastic top. It has hardened and discolored over time. I do like the pot. I have similar results in terms of boil times. I wish they made an aluminium top for it. It would be excellent rather than just good.
I am wondering if that will happen to this one as well. May look to see what I can find as an alternative. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for sharing.
No reply necessary, thank you.
Pity you did not step through the 1,2,3,4 cup volumes /ti pot comparisons.
Easy for me to say, you are doing the work. But you did get the pot free to do a review on.
Always a pleasure watching your informative video.
Many thanks.
Take care
Best regards Colin
I know you said no need to reply but I am curious is you meant additional tests with each volume? Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yes please, as a greater volume of water could provide water for a rehdratable meal and a drink at the same time.
Or, that is; a drink whilst awaiting for the boiled water to soak in to the rehidateable meal.
Like many others I always enjoy your content, and am very grateful for your passing on your useful findings.
Take care
Best regards Colin
I must say Mark that I really like the size and functionality of this pot. Very interested in this product. Cheers my friend!
I agree. Near perfect size. Thanks for commenting
My only concern with using this pot over a wood fire would be to use only hardwoods. Out here, we have primarily softwoods - pine, spruce, etc. I would expect the heat exchanger to be cool enough to cause the pitch in the coniferous wood to condense out inside the fins and quickly plug them up.
I agree, the more I think about it, the less I want to burn wood for that reason. I may consider wood pellets in a wood gas stove. Thanks for commenting
Great video, thanks. Very informative.
Less yapping than others.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting
Another great review Mark. I don’t have any of Fire Maples Titanium pots, but I love their Stainless Steel cooking gear.
Hello my friend. I am about to do an intro video on the FM Antarcti lineup. Great bushcraft gear. Thanks for commenting
Good looking pot and review Mark , have a great day , God bless !
Same to you. Thanks for commenting
G'day Mark, not bad mate, concur 1 L is a good size to do most things without going overboard.
I reckon the heat exchanger does make sense, but for me personally, I'm questioning whether I really need that feature. Cant say I'm a fan of plastics of any description around flames, though that lid would be very good for transporting food or other kit inside, but then you're left with no metal lid to cook with.
I do like that Fire Maple offer a range of options depending on your MO/preference, and decent quality at fair prices too; like the look of the Alti 900 ml Ti pot & lid and the Antarti 1 L stainless pot/lid without the exchanger as a couple of examples.
Cheers Duke.
Hello Duke. I am revising my suggestion about using this with fire. I expect the fins will get fouled up with smoke residue. I have a number of other Fire Maple items coming for review as well. Great value gear for sure. Thanks for commenting
I would love to see a comparison between this pot and the larger 1.5l heat exchanger pot. I'm wondering if the wider base of the larger pot will capture the heat better than the narrower pot. And see if it is enough to make any measurable difference.
I also do winter camping in the Sierras and just bought a Firemaple remote canister stove with preheat tube. I see Firemaple saying their Polaris pressure regulator stoves work great in cold weather. I'd love to know if the Polaris regulator is better in freezing temps that the preheat tube types? Thanks
Just so I am clear, you would like me to compare the smaller Fire Maple pot with the Larger Fire Maple pot to see if the diameter will make a difference? Also, I have two Fire Maple stoves with preheat tubes that I am testing and waiting for colder weather. I can add in the Polaris to see how well it works. Thanks for commenting
Did you try the Polaris remote stove compared to the heat tube stoves? Interested how the remote Polaris performs in below freezing temps
I suppose that lid is great at keeping things secured inside during travel, but I would rather have an easier to remove lid while boiling. I have a 1.8 liter heat exchanger pot; a smaller one would be handy. Mine drips water down the side of the pot every time I do a pour over coffee. I wish it had a bit of a lip.
Good point! Thanks for commenting
To avoid the dripping you can use anything like a spoon or stick pressed up against the lip of the pot and descending in the direction you want the water to go. Surface tension helps guide líquids.
@@pedroclaro7822 Thanks; I'll give it a try.
Mark, thanks for another great video. When you were talking about the speed with gas I was thinking, what about alcohol? Then you covered that too.
Yes sir. I do like my alcohol stoves. Thanks for commenting
I've tried running these experiments to see how long a stove and pot will boil. Problem is there are far too many variables to control. The pressure of the fuel in the can changes as the can is depleted, changing the gas output at any given valve setting, making it impossible to know how to set the valve, then, how can you really be sure you are setting the valve the same way even if you use a new gas on each attempt. The temperature of the gas also impacts the gas pressure and probably also the barometric pressure. Starting water temperature is another variables. Some day, someone will do a large, well controlled study.
Yes, you point out some of the issues with this type of testing. Gear Sceptic is working on this now. Thanks for commenting
Good Looking & Performing Pot, Great Demo, Fair Price. Thanks Mark ! ATB T God Bless
Win-win. Thanks for commenting Terry
Love the heat exchanger additions and have been a diehard since my first MSR pot but the 1.5 litre kettle has to be the most utilized due to its slightly wider base.
Hi Rob. Guess I am late to the party on these type of pots. They have a bit more bulk but they do save fuel. Thanks for commenting my friend
@@MarkYoungBushcraft the kettle I use is an ALOCS brand that Dale ordered for me. Not sure where. Take care my friend!
The Goshawk would be a good stove for the pot.
Fore sure, I will be trying it out. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for sharing. Great review.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
hey mark! did you ever end up using a heat exchanger pot with a wood stove? i'd like to see that and differences in boil time. cheers
I decided against it as the soot and resin would collect in the fins of the heat exchanger. Thanks for commenting
Too bad. @@MarkYoungBushcraft Patagonia sells a heat-exchanger SS pot with their wood stove, i was just wondering if anyone had done it with a random pot.
Their pot is the QuantuMiiR if you're curious. SS pot, Copper heat exchanger. Nice but not worth your money imho.
I have used a Bulin HE pot on a wood stove....seemed to work ok. But after 4 or 5 burns I think you lose a lot of efficiency due to the exchanger fins getting all sooted up....and let me tell you, it's no treat trying to get that crap out of the fins, not worth it in my opinion. Thank you for your video, I always enjoy them....
Interesting observation. Good reason not to use it with fire. Thanks for commenting
Question: Would this "nest" with a Nalgene? Too big, too small, or just right?
This quite a bit bigger than a Nalgene. Thanks for commenting
Good!
Thanks!
Will this pot pair well with the soto wind master stove?
I don't have the SOTO Windmaster but I do have the Campingmoon version which almost identical (I have a video on this stove). It works perfectly with this pot. Thanks for commenting
Did you ever add the extra holes and if you did would you recommend it I just received mine
HE pots are definitely more efficient.
Nice pot but I prefer my Widesea which has a small pot as a lid which would work as a cup if needed plus i store small containers of Coffee Tea and sugar in the small pot.
Good point! Thanks for commenting
Doesn’t Widesea pot holds only 800 milliliters vs 1 full litter in this one? I’ve been looking at both and can’t decide.
@@carmenmartinez2882 800mls less capacity because the lid is a cup.
Have you ever experienced a toxic vapour from the pot when used with a trangia spirit stove...??
If you mean vapours from the metal heating up, then no. The aluminum is hard anodized and very safe to use, especially if you ensure there are always liquids in the pot. Thanks for commenting
Nice 😁. Not a bad price either . I bet you could rig a pot support for a gasifier stove that fits right up inside the heat exchanger .
I have been considering using it with my Solo Lite. Thanks for commenting
I bet this would pair very well with a small wood gasification stove. I love my nano but it would probably just dirty it up.
I have a couple of small wood gas stoves I will try it out with. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft is the hole on the bottom of the stove big enough that you could potentially put the stove directly on a side ported alcohol stove. Looks like you could potentially even put it directly on a trangia... Might not be the most efficient that way.
Would you recommend this pot with Esbit, or would it foul the heat exchange?
The more I consider it, I feel it would foul the heat exchange making it less efficient, Same for wood burning stoves. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you ... although I was hoping for a different answer.
Thanks for the review. I want to buy the pot, but the 05FIREMAPLE code isn't working at amazon.
It is possible the code may have expired. I will see if they want to provide a new one. Thanks for commenting
Too bad the fire maple didn’t come with Canadian maple syrup….😉😘 Yep, they should have a made a better way to grip the lid. I wonder if some of these companies ever take the time to test out their equipment.
Good point. I know they watched this video as they sent me a few comments. Thanks for commenting
Garbage ....I did 3 separate boil tests between this pot and my 1100ml Toaks titanium pot with .5 liter of water and there was no difference between the boil times. This was using a Soto Windmaster stove. Not worth the money as a heat exchanger pot over my Toaks, especially for the weight penalty....
I am not arguing with you results; however, I got different results using a Lixada 1100ml pot and Campingmoon XD2F stove. See video description if interested. Thank for commenting