For the issue of nesting everything in the pot at once, it is totally possible, and you can even do it with the larger 8 oz fuel cans: INVERT the pot stand and nest under/into the stove and it will tuck nicely in between the folded legs to make a compact package. Put that in the bottom of the pot, and the rest should fit easy. My order going into the pot is small microfiber cloth (6x12)wrapped around the stove/stand, 220g fuel canister, BIC lighter and folding spoon loose on top, then cap it with the plastic cup (I put a strip of gorilla tape with a little tab folded into it on the bottom of the cup to help lift it out), and then the strainer lid should cover the everything with a nice seal, and lock it down with the handle. Enjoy your self-contained kitchen on the trail!
I have yet to mess around with any canister stoves. I like that this one is less noisy than others I have seen. Man boiling water in under 2 minutes though is not something I have seen before. Thanks for sharing Mark!
I have one Mark, and think it is superb! Everything fits inside...yes, even with an 8 oz canister: burner in first (feet on the bottom, I use a thin bit of cloth to protect pan), then the bowl (domed bottom fits over the burner), then canister, then pot support. Not explained in the user leaflet but it is shown on the main photo.
I have the MSR Reactor stove and I love it. Similar to this, simmering is difficult- more like yes/no. I made a pot stand for it so I could use frying pans. But I've been looking for something like this for years - ie remote radiant burner, low center of gravity and a pot stand. I JUST ORDERED THIS SYSTEM TOO. As for cold weather with the MSR Reactor, the regulator keeps the evaporating gas from cooling the canister too quickly. ie, at -20c, I'm enjoying my coffee before my comrades using white gas stoves even have their stoves primed. What I do is put the canister inside my jacket for 10min before using it in super cold weather and it's so fast, the canister just doesn't have time to cool to the point where the gas won't vaporize. Regulated stoves are the best. I'm curious if the canister can be inverted with this stove (ie, is there an internal fuel loop that heats up the gas so it will vaporize in the stove)? This would be another huge plus in super cold weather. But it might be a dangerous experiment to try, so use caution if you do. Thanks for the great video.
G'day Mark, I haven't seen a radiant design like this before, so thanks for showing it on that basis alone mate. We cant get up too high here, even the highest peak above sea level, (Mt Kosciusko) is only a bit over 2000 m, (and I'll never be do'in that, lol). Still, it does often get -0 C in many parts, so I reckon pressure regulation is better to have, than not have; though to be fair, the preheat tube on the Blade 2, has done the business for me so far., ....... and for that matter, nor has the Soto Windmaster, without one, showed any noticeable degradation in performance where I go. However, having said that, over engineered is ALWAYS better than just satisfactory, (or obviously under engineered), IMO. Like the solid, swivel out, legs and for the reasons you mentioned, concur, I'd rather not have a "captive" system. I actually prefer a noisy job, since it tells me more clearly if its on, and to some extent how high. What I really, really like, is the no flame/wind resistance in operation And, I note it recovered quickly from the water spillage too. Btw; I assume a ferro rod will get it going easily enough ..... is that so ? In any case, yes a bit heavier, but quite a compelling set up for my MO. Cheers Duke.
Hi Duke. Fire Maple packed a lot of engineering in this one. Yes, a ferro rod spark works great. I use a lighter to save that tinniest bit of fuel I would waste between turning the gas flow on and striking the rod. Thanks for commenting
Very similar to the Bulin S2400 and pot you revised a while ago . Don’t have the regulated gas output but similar . You must now have quite a stove selection now😂👍😉
Looks ok,Mark,but ill stick with my Boulin 3200.Cost 45$ when i purchased it and has gone up to 60$.Gotta watch that SSI monthley stipend! Good to see you again!🤠
We live in our van, this could be a nice option in colder weather, ans at altitude. We often go altitude of 9000 feet or even higher, and we cook in temperature well below zero in winter.
I think I would try to find a can that the pot stand would fit in. Then I would cut it to make a ring windscreen, leaving a little space at the top to let air in. Or using a ventilation pipe for the windscreen. ✌️🇺🇸🇨🇦✌️
I heard in other reviews that there is an issue with stainless steel pots as the heat is reflected back into the burner and can melt the burner. Have you heard of this?
Fire Maple advised me they had to redesign the original pot/pan support for use with stainless steel pans for the reason you mentioned. They have since sent me a pot support that is almost twice the clearance from the burner. It is included with all new purchases. I may do an update on that. Thanks for commenting
That’s a good piece of info to know! I was thinking between this one and the Polaris pot. What I like about this one is that the heating area is more dispersed so for thinks like frying in a pan it might make more sense.
Good question. Both benefit from the pressure regulator but the MARS is designed to work better at higher altitudes. For me, the Polaris makes more sense. Hope this helps
Great demonstration Mark, that quick boil over shows the efficiency of the unit which could do the job on a lower setting. Are there similar propane models available, or do these radiant stoves work best with butane?
Fire Maple don't make stoves designed specifically for propane; however, they do have an adapter that you can put on a 1lb propane tank and then attach to the stove. I have tried this and it works on all their stoves. Propane burns better at lower temperatures but does not pack they same BTUs per gram as butane. Thanks for commenting
@MarkYoungBushcraft thank you Mark, that's good to know. The weight difference may be an important factor for many. However, I believe propane may be more economical, especially when larger tanks can be used with an adapter when car camping or at a cottage or cabin where weight isn't important.
A question for you Mark. Have you ever produced a review of the Fire Maple "Volcano" alchol stove ? I trawled through your past videos but couldn't find one. Would be interested in your views on this stove. TIA.
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Many thanks for replying so quickly. Looking forward to your review of the stove. So glad that I hadn't missed your review, or , couldn't find it.
HI David. Thanks for your concern. The marks on my face are scratches from a bit of bushwhacking. Having said that, in some of my videos in the new year you may see my face with some pretty gross looking skin. I will have started topical chemo for pre-skin cancer. I have just completed a round on the top of my head. Not fun but is the best way to prevent full on skin cancer. I may make a video to discuss. Again, thanks for asking
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Mark, I go to the skin doctor twice a year and never leave without some burns and cuts. I’ve lost count of the number of skin cancers (full on) I have had. Was a walking mailman in the South Texas sun. You take care of yourself for skin cancer is a killer. Blessings, David.
For the issue of nesting everything in the pot at once, it is totally possible, and you can even do it with the larger 8 oz fuel cans: INVERT the pot stand and nest under/into the stove and it will tuck nicely in between the folded legs to make a compact package. Put that in the bottom of the pot, and the rest should fit easy. My order going into the pot is small microfiber cloth (6x12)wrapped around the stove/stand, 220g fuel canister, BIC lighter and folding spoon loose on top, then cap it with the plastic cup (I put a strip of gorilla tape with a little tab folded into it on the bottom of the cup to help lift it out), and then the strainer lid should cover the everything with a nice seal, and lock it down with the handle. Enjoy your self-contained kitchen on the trail!
I appreciate the tips on packing and using this cook set. Thanks for commenting
I have yet to mess around with any canister stoves. I like that this one is less noisy than others I have seen. Man boiling water in under 2 minutes though is not something I have seen before. Thanks for sharing Mark!
Mostly I like the convenience of the all in one design. Thanks for commenting Steve
As of today, still not on their website, and no mention of price, won't be cheap. Heat control is a problem.
firemaplegear.com/products/mars-radiant-stove-system?_pos=1&_psq=mars&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Mark, the pot stand will fit if you stretch it over top of your fuel can. Amazing how well that entire kit nests.
Thanks. I agree, well thought out
Great video, but I'm not going to lie, seeing all of it in there with all of the moisture makes my OCD go into overdrive.
I hear you on that. Not to worry, I make sure everything is clean and dry before I store it. Thanks for commenting
Hard To Go Wrong With This System, Really Enjoyed This, Many Thanks Mark ! ATB T God Bless
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting Terry
This sounds like a very interesting system for colder weather in Canada
It works pretty good but the gas stoves with a pre-heat tube allow for some real cold weather use as well. Thanks for commenting Alex
I have one Mark, and think it is superb! Everything fits inside...yes, even with an 8 oz canister: burner in first (feet on the bottom, I use a thin bit of cloth to protect pan), then the bowl (domed bottom fits over the burner), then canister, then pot support. Not explained in the user leaflet but it is shown on the main photo.
I appreciate you sharing your experience. Thanks for commenting
I have the MSR Reactor stove and I love it. Similar to this, simmering is difficult- more like yes/no. I made a pot stand for it so I could use frying pans. But I've been looking for something like this for years - ie remote radiant burner, low center of gravity and a pot stand. I JUST ORDERED THIS SYSTEM TOO. As for cold weather with the MSR Reactor, the regulator keeps the evaporating gas from cooling the canister too quickly. ie, at -20c, I'm enjoying my coffee before my comrades using white gas stoves even have their stoves primed. What I do is put the canister inside my jacket for 10min before using it in super cold weather and it's so fast, the canister just doesn't have time to cool to the point where the gas won't vaporize. Regulated stoves are the best. I'm curious if the canister can be inverted with this stove (ie, is there an internal fuel loop that heats up the gas so it will vaporize in the stove)? This would be another huge plus in super cold weather. But it might be a dangerous experiment to try, so use caution if you do. Thanks for the great video.
Great information. Thanks for commenting
I just got this last week, pretty happy with it. Really efficient using 10 grams of fuel per 1L boil.
It is a great value, great performing unit for sure. Thanks for commenting
Good review, thanks for sharing, God bless !
Thanks, you too!
G'day Mark, I haven't seen a radiant design like this before, so thanks for showing it on that basis alone mate.
We cant get up too high here, even the highest peak above sea level, (Mt Kosciusko) is only a bit over 2000 m, (and I'll never be do'in that, lol). Still, it does often get -0 C in many parts, so I reckon pressure regulation is better to have, than not have; though to be fair, the preheat tube on the Blade 2, has done the business for me so far., ....... and for that matter, nor has the Soto Windmaster, without one, showed any noticeable degradation in performance where I go. However, having said that, over engineered is ALWAYS better than just satisfactory, (or obviously under engineered), IMO.
Like the solid, swivel out, legs and for the reasons you mentioned, concur, I'd rather not have a "captive" system.
I actually prefer a noisy job, since it tells me more clearly if its on, and to some extent how high.
What I really, really like, is the no flame/wind resistance in operation
And, I note it recovered quickly from the water spillage too.
Btw; I assume a ferro rod will get it going easily enough ..... is that so ?
In any case, yes a bit heavier, but quite a compelling set up for my MO. Cheers Duke.
Hi Duke. Fire Maple packed a lot of engineering in this one. Yes, a ferro rod spark works great. I use a lighter to save that tinniest bit of fuel I would waste between turning the gas flow on and striking the rod. Thanks for commenting
Very similar to the Bulin S2400 and pot you revised a while ago . Don’t have the regulated gas output but similar . You must now have quite a stove selection now😂👍😉
So may stoves. The Bulin is similar in many ways but the radiant technology is a bit different here. Thanks for commenting
Looks ok,Mark,but ill stick with my Boulin 3200.Cost 45$ when i purchased it and has gone up to 60$.Gotta watch that SSI monthley stipend! Good to see you again!🤠
Totally understandable. Thanks for commenting
We live in our van, this could be a nice option in colder weather, ans at altitude. We often go altitude of 9000 feet or even higher, and we cook in temperature well below zero in winter.
Sounds like this stove would be perfect for you. Thanks for commenting
I think I would try to find a can that the pot stand would fit in. Then I would cut it to make a ring windscreen, leaving a little space at the top to let air in. Or using a ventilation pipe for the windscreen. ✌️🇺🇸🇨🇦✌️
Interesting idea. Worth considering. Thanks for commenting
I heard in other reviews that there is an issue with stainless steel pots as the heat is reflected back into the burner and can melt the burner. Have you heard of this?
Fire Maple advised me they had to redesign the original pot/pan support for use with stainless steel pans for the reason you mentioned. They have since sent me a pot support that is almost twice the clearance from the burner. It is included with all new purchases. I may do an update on that. Thanks for commenting
That’s a good piece of info to know! I was thinking between this one and the Polaris pot. What I like about this one is that the heating area is more dispersed so for thinks like frying in a pan it might make more sense.
Thanks for the review Mark. How would you compare this to the Polaris? i.e. when would you choose one over the other?
Good question. Both benefit from the pressure regulator but the MARS is designed to work better at higher altitudes. For me, the Polaris makes more sense. Hope this helps
Great demonstration Mark, that quick boil over shows the efficiency of the unit which could do the job on a lower setting. Are there similar propane models available, or do these radiant stoves work best with butane?
Fire Maple don't make stoves designed specifically for propane; however, they do have an adapter that you can put on a 1lb propane tank and then attach to the stove. I have tried this and it works on all their stoves. Propane burns better at lower temperatures but does not pack they same BTUs per gram as butane. Thanks for commenting
@MarkYoungBushcraft thank you Mark, that's good to know. The weight difference may be an important factor for many. However, I believe propane may be more economical, especially when larger tanks can be used with an adapter when car camping or at a cottage or cabin where weight isn't important.
A question for you Mark. Have you ever produced a review of the Fire Maple "Volcano" alchol stove ?
I trawled through your past videos but couldn't find one. Would be interested in your views on this stove. TIA.
I don't have the FM Volcano stove yet but will be asking for it. I am interested in it as well. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Many thanks for replying so quickly. Looking forward to your review of the stove. So glad that I hadn't missed your review, or , couldn't find it.
You can buy his gas stove and cookware, but their alcohol stove design is not what they are good at. Don't buy it, trust me.
still looking where to get mine...
Have you tried direct from Fire Maple?
@@MarkYoungBushcraft not yet sir...they have a store in one of the online shopping app, but this specific stove is yet to be available...
20 or 30 below?? Doubt it.
Thanks for commenting
I noticed that you have a mark on your nose and forehead. Are you alright my friend?
HI David. Thanks for your concern. The marks on my face are scratches from a bit of bushwhacking. Having said that, in some of my videos in the new year you may see my face with some pretty gross looking skin. I will have started topical chemo for pre-skin cancer. I have just completed a round on the top of my head. Not fun but is the best way to prevent full on skin cancer. I may make a video to discuss. Again, thanks for asking
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Mark, I go to the skin doctor twice a year and never leave without some burns and cuts. I’ve lost count of the number of skin cancers (full on) I have had. Was a walking mailman in the South Texas sun. You take care of yourself for skin cancer is a killer. Blessings, David.