Is Erling Haaland world class? | Back Pages Tonight
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The Back Pages Tonight line-up discuss Jamie Carragher's article where he says Manchester City striker Erling Haaland is not a world class footballer.
John Cross strongly disagrees with Carragher's opinion.
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“There’s an 83% win rate when they win and it goes down when they don’t” tf are they on about
It's What happens when you prioritise diversity over someone with knowledge.
Helping us stay dumb mate. Sky Sports is for kids
It's called a slip of the tongue. Took me two seconds to figure it out. 83% win rate when he scores.
Btw this brother absolutely annihilated the league last year. If he were English you’d be seeing different headlines.
You’re in the wrong place! You need to go on talksport to farm likes with this kind of BS 👍
Well, he was born here..
He is world class. He is also human 👏🏾
he outscored everyone in the league last season by a mile and the highest scorer in Europe, so yeah he’s world class.
nah
No one in the world scores more goals than him, so of course he’s world class. Not everyone has to be an all around striker
You're in the wrong place! You need to go on talksport to farm likes with this kind of BS 👍
@@M4NA5👈 you can tell the kids aren’t at school. He’s even liked his own comment as well, bless
@@Bert-lw1ot 👈 you can tell the kids aren't at school. He's even liked his own comment as well, bless
Get a life pal @@M4NA5
@@Bert-lw1otpretty sure kids aren't in school on a Saturday regardless of Easter Holidays
Haaland > Nunez all day everyday, Carra would be saying the exact opposite if Haaland was a Liverpool player!
Nunez > Me, all day everyday
@@TheWhisperCorner What? I can't believe that.
@@Blinkers2007GameDev If I lose 90 lbs it might be closer.
@@TheWhisperCorner Nah you're already better than him already
He's won the treble and broke the record for most goals scored in the prem in his first season
Haaland has a lot of Goals and Assists? Then?
Haaland scores a lot, it means that everyone in ManCity are creating for him, instead of creating for each other to have everyone scoring.
The TOTAL number of goals that ManCity scores is not going to be increased because Haaland is there. He just takes away the number of goals his teammates could have scored.
Assists? A miscontrol in front of the goal that bounces off towards his teammate can be considered as an assist. It doesn’t mean Haaland has the creativity of Firmino creating goals for his teammates.
English fans and a lot of casual fans overrate G/A and efficiency. They forget that where do G/A comes from. They are from build up play. If you have a high G/A but you don’t have much build up play contribution, it means that you are just taking the G/A from your teammates, because the TOTAL overall G/A of your TEAM, won’t increase if you don’t add more build up play into it.
Well said, very accurate!
brilliant comment
@@whiteben37
Haaland is indeed a league two level footballer.
@thierryhenry674
@whiteben37
@JimBrooks-qr3pc
You are not going to find another forward in the world with numbers like Haaland’s. He’s completely off the charts and he did not just start ripping up trees at City. He’s been doing it his entire career wherever he has played.
City-91 games, 83 goals, 15 assists
Dortmund-89 games, 86 goals, 23 assists
Salzburg-27 games, 29 goals, 7 assists
Norway-31 games, 27 goals, 3 assists
Total-238 games, 225 goals, 48 assists
Pff you can yap about G/A all day. Fact is City never won UCL or treble before he came..thats a FACT
People criticised Mbappe for not defending much, yet he ranks in the top 1% for every other aspect, dribbling, finishing, playmaking/assists and crosses but Haaland is JUST goals, he is world class though. People just become aware of his other attributes when the goals dry up in a game
I am sorry. I don't think he should win it. It's bad for football. Guys like Lamine Yamal, Endrick, Vinicius, etc. should be winning these awards in the future. It's not an award about who scores the most goals but who is the best footballer.
Halaand can play bad for 89 minutes and then score one goal in the 90'' but someone like Yamal, and Vinicius who perform magic for 90 " and not score a goal should not be ignored.
I think that the question is would he lift a lesser team, or can only play with top support
@paulreed2204
FYI-Haaland is off the charts. If these numbers aren’t World Class for a striker then no striker is World Class. See below.
City-91 games, 83 goals, 15 assists
Dortmund-89 games, 86 goals, 23 assists
Salzburg-27 games, 29 goals, 7 assists
Norway-31 games, 27 goals, 3 assists
Total-238 games, 225 goals, 48 assists
Dortmund, Norway
Yes he Will Winn the Ballondor
It's a big year for balon dor because it signals a new era without Messi and Ronaldo, Haaland was supposed to be a contender which is why he is being criticised, no one criticizes you if they don't expect anything special from you.
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Lol, at Dortmund he was considered world class by consensus. He then comes to City and breaks all goalscoring records in his first season and wins the treble, and he's currently the top scorer again despite missing two months through injury, yet he's not world class? If he played for ANY other club it wouldn't be a question. The City bitterness is so so real.
Aguero is world class. Love his skills, tricks, tekky and silky close control, passing, dribbling skills and creativity.
He drops deep to help the build up play, roams around and swap positions with his teammates. ManCity were so entertaining to watch with their tiki taka play.
I absolutely love that version of ManCity.
Aubayemang has always been a rubsh footballer and I never wanted him at Arsenal. I never liked him even he was playing for Arsenal.
It’s not about the club.
I want all the TV cameras on Carragher's face when Haaland scores the goals at the end of the season that wins City the league over Liverpool
Don't be stupid! He is of course world class. He don't score much now because he is not selfish and follow Pep tactic. Halaand is always a playe every team must be careful and watch out and stop him to score so he is a threat for every team, it's say that all. They plan is always wach out for Halaand because they know what Halaand can do when he got the ball and space.🔥
he is not, i thought he was before but considering many factors about his game, he is not. He can finish in front of goal, but that is only what he offers.
Ofc
Perhaps a world class goal scorer and not a world class player?
That female journalist talked A LOT and saïd ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
So like every other Sky journo?
@@M4NA5 she’s not a sky journo. Neither is John Cross and at least he stated a firm and clear opinion. She just waffled endlessly like she was trying to cover how out of her depth she was.
Well said john
Build up play has become more important in the modern game.
Modern teams are more compact vertically. Which means the distance between their strikers and their defenders are closer. They defend with 11 players forming a block.
Therefore, you need 11 creative players to break down that block. That’s why modern defenders and goalkeepers are required to be so much more technical on the ball.
In the past, being a goal hanger isn’t that big of a trade off, because your team could still be able to create through a 4 men defence. But nowadays, you can’t afford to be one man down in the build up process because you are facing 11 defenders.
This is why modern football has become more “TOTAL”. A striker’s job is not just finishing, but also defending and creating. Otherwise your team would be in a numerical disadvantage in the defensive/build up phase.
The same applies to defenders and goalkeepers. Being “TOTAL” not only means you are not in a disadvantage in other phases, it allows more position swapping opportunities to break down those low blocks, hence more tactical flexibility. This is why serving the system has become so much more important in modern football.
underrated comment
Yeh that's why City won the treble with Haaland last season.
@@TT-hx9nj
Haaland has made ManCity worse. ManCity would’ve won the treble with any other player.
@@thierryhenry674
They didn't win it with Jesus, Aguero etc.
What are you talking about?
@@TT-hx9nj
One unlucky moment in knockout football and you are out. They were unlucky in the past. And also, their other players were not as well prepared as last season.
I left when she said the win rate goes down when you dont win. Oh dear
OH brother
83 goals/88 appearances for Man City - how is it even questioned!?
It's a shame that none of the top strikers these days can't even score one freekick 🤦
That is why he was bench for England all through is career
Who is Jamie Carragher to judge Premier League winner?
He broke PL scoring records in his first season. This is clickbait BS.
defination of great is world class carragr
Haaland was born in England, and would have been great backup for kane.
Not yet to the world class level, but he is promising. Let's give him some time.
wtf you’d say that about hojlund let’s not act like he he wouldn’t start a striker for every club in the world
I'm a City fan and I agree with Jamie, Haaland finishing is great when his on form, but unfortunately the rest of his game isn't great. This is where the issue arises, when he doesn't score, he literally does nothing else. Isak for Newcastle, might not be able to score as many goals, but he contributes more to the build up play. These stupid journalists know nothing about football..I'm a City fan and I watch every game and I would happily swap Haaland for a Harry Kane or a Isak
Haaland has pretty much 1 goal/game in every club he has been in (also 1 season at City)
Now it looks like Peps training/tactic start to take effect (makes him worse). Could hope it is season 2 curse and he comes back stronger next season.
but yeah Haaland should get away before getting ruined at City
There is no “one main job” in modern football.
“A defender is bought to defend”?
So as long as he is great at defending, he can keep passing the ball to the opponent, and avoiding the ball when his teammates are passing to him?
Haaland is just a goal hanger. He is a massive liability in the build up.
As a result, his team will have less and lower quality of possession, ball progression and chance creation, which will eventually reduce the total number of goals his team can score.
Three times against Arsenal this season. Haaland is invisible, and registered an extremely low xG.
If ManCity had played a tekky/creative false 9 instead, Arsenal would not be able to defend. Because ManCity’s tiki taka play would be so much more dangerous, it’s like they have 16 players on the pitch.
The purpose of football is to maximise the TOTAL number of goals your TEAM could score. It doesn’t matter if you score 50 goals a season if you are the reason your team is scoring less in total.
What your team WINS is the most important thing. And they won the treble with him! If your team scores 5 less over a season, but your opponents score 10 less because they’re scared to commit players forward, it’s a net gain of 5 goals, even though you’ve scored 5 less than the previous season! It’s not just how Haaland effects Man City, but how he effects the opponents
@@Bert-lw1ot City were unlucky in previous seasons. Last season, Bayern and Madrid were not the team they once were. City were less unlucky. They would have won it with or without Haaland.
this is spot on
@@Benjamin-gt6si literally your opinion, proper “trust me bro” comment! The fact are they didn’t win it for YEARS without him, and they did win it in his first season…probably just a coincidence though 🤣🤣🤣
Whole lot of waffling just to be debunked by the fact that they had that player in Jesus and he done all the cute passing and dribbling yet they were no farther forward. Yet when Haaland arrives and he starts scoring they win a treble.
These pundits throw up and discussion and keep talking about it as if the rest of us are. A convo started by keane and carragher.
Tall poppy syndrome at its worst. Last year everyone was in awe. All of a sudden he’s rubbish. Amazing!😤
define world class
Last week everyone on the comments was kissing Roy Keanes a55 and agree with him, and now the comments are saying how world class Haaland is lol....Football fans are so pathetic!
Give him luton town.
Never shows up in big games, not world class his team mates around him make him world class
scored against you lot this season tho 😴
Dumb question, just for content. World class striker
What kind of crap is this? He’s the best striker in the world. If scoring 50ish goals a season in the best league in the world is not world, then what is?
Jamie knows how to demotivate man city at right time... to benfit liverpool, mental games, jamie still playes for liverpool
Focus on Darwin Nunes JC
Jamie carragher wasn't world class that's a certain fact.
I'm baffled by this being a discussion.
I genuinely feel like everyone in and around football has become dumber. Or they purposefully act dumb to bait online debates so they can get more clicks on their stupid narratives.
wat has kane won?like carragher winning nothing
“Het up”. And then she used it afterwards too. Jesus, did anyone at Sky stay at school for more than 3 years?
He is world class. Not a better striker than him
Who cares what Caragher thinks?
So I'm to decide if he's World class because of caragher? Nonsense.
They always want to criticise world class foreign players in premier league as oppose to talking about English overrated overhyped players ....
Lets all jump on the Roy Keane band wagon😂
What a stupid question
From Roy Keane(who knows what he's talking about to an extent) to another bum of a pundit in Jamie Carragher, he just loves to talk absolute shite when he wasn't even in the pinnacle of his career till almost he retired. 🙄👀🤣🤣🤣
yes what a deluded question 😂😂😂
Of course he is. 🤣
The English media 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
What a bunch of clowns
He is good goal scorer but certainly not world class
Correct he isn't world class
Woman u got no clue smh
Klopp is 5th Beatle "Let it be" blessing in disguise to lose Europa. Man C & Arsenal will play 3 more games than LFC (of very high intensity & risk lots of injuries & red cards & mental fatigue) whilst LFC heal up & hit top form.
Destiny wants Klopp & LFC to win the premiership- enjoy the roller coaster- don't fear it- enjoy it.
A double incoming- with 10 amazing kop kids & a huge injury list of older stars, who are all coming back to end the season in GLORY.
its written in the stars- they said Messi won't win World cup- but u can't stop destiny.
Kop fans & LFC team are praying hard to win the treble.
Angel of Good luck karma is aiding LFC to win treble.
As per Carragher, captain chaos Darwin is main reason LFC are top club 4 creating goal chances. He is not clinical like Ian Rush & Owen but is more like Eric Cantona in assisting goals & scaring the life out of defences via creative chaos.
Carra is just a dog ,, ignore him
Hes world ASS
but carracher was just an ordinary useless player he never won any league
No not yet he is overrated
Sky sports desperately wants the twister crowd 🤡