How to Undervolt and Overclock Legion Pro 7i for 10% More FPS! i9-13900HX and RTX 4090 Optimization
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- How do you optimize the Legion Pro 7i with i9-13900HX and RTX 4090? Today, we will take an indepth look at the settings and optimal undervolting and overclocking to reach peak performance with this beast gaming laptop. You can buy the Legion Pro 7i here:
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00:00 - Legion Pro 7i Undervolting and Overclocking Optimization Guide for Max Performance
00:01:08 - Initial Intro to Lenovo Vantage
00:02:15 - Throttlestop vs Vantage Undervolt Options
00:03:16 - Using HW Info to Verify Undervolt
00:05:19 - Cinebench R23 Benchmarks (i9-13900HX) - Stock - Legion Pro 7i
00:07:40 - Time Spy Benchmark (i9-13900HX, RTX 4090) - Stock - Legion Pro 7i
00:08:49 - Vantage Overclock Options (CPU/GPU)
00:12:58 - Lenovo Legion Pro 7i BIOS
00:14:25 - Undervolting the i9-13900HX With Throttlestop - Legion Pro 7i
00:19:10 - Setting up the IETS GT500 Laptop Cooling Pad
00:19:40 - Cinebench R23 Benchmarks (i9-13900HX) - [-160mV] Undervolt with Cooler - Custom Max Fans - Crashed - Legion Pro 7i
00:23:33 - Overclocking and Undervolting the RTX 4090 For Best Thermals - MSI Afterburner - Legion Pro 7i
00:30:29 - Overclocking the RTX 4090 For Max Performance - Afterburner - Legion Pro 7i
00:35:24 - Time Spy Benchmark (i9-13900HX, RTX 4090) - [-150mV] UV [+250+500] OC - Legion Pro 7i
00:36:45 - Apex Legends (QHD+, High) - [-150mV] UV [+220Curve+400] OC vs Vantage +150/200 OC Side-by-Side - Legion Pro 7i
00:38:51 - Warzone 2 (QHD+, Minimum/Performance [High Textures], DLSS Q) - Stock - Legion Pro 7i
00:39:21 - Warzone 2 (QHD+, Minimum/Performance [High Textures], DLSS Q) - [-150mV] UV [+220Curve+400] OC - Legion Pro 7i
00:39:37 - Warzone 2 - FPS Testing with Applying and Disabling Undervolt - Legion Pro 7i
00:41:08 - Counter Strike Global Offensive (QHD+, High) - [-150mV] UV [+220Curve/400] OC vs Vantage +150/200 OC Side-by-Side - Legion Pro 7i
00:41:39 - God of War (QHD+, Ultra, DLSS Q) - [-150mV] UV [+220Curve/400] OC vs Vantage [+150/200] OC Side-by-Side - Legion Pro 7i
00:43:27 - God of War (QHD+, Ultra, DLSS Q) - [-150mV] UV [+240/500] OC vs Vantage [+150/200] OC Side-by-Side - Legion Pro 7i
00:46:00 - Cyberpunk 2077 (QHD+, DLSS Q, RT Ultra, FG On) - [+220/500+885mVLock] OC vs Vantage [+150/200] OC Side-by-Side - Legion Pro 7i
00:46:44 - Cyberpunk 2077 (QHD+, DLSS Q, RT Ultra, FG On) - Stock - Legion Pro 7i
00:47:39 - Hogwarts Legacy (QHD+, Ultra [Low Textures], DLSS Q, RT On, FG On) - Stock - Legion Pro 7i
00:48:04 - Hogwarts Legacy (QHD+, Ultra [Low Textures], DLSS Q, RT On, FG On) - [-150mV] UV [+220Curve/400+890mVLock] OC - Legion Pro 7i
00:48:48 - Hogwarts Legacy - UV [+220/500+890mVLock] OC and Test with GPU UV - Legion Pro 7i
00:49:54 - Dead Space (QHD+, Ultra, DLSS Q) - UV [+220/500+885mVLock] OC vs Vantage +150/200 OC Side-by-Side - Legion Pro 7i
00:51:52 - Dying Light 2 (QHD+, HQ RT, DLSS Q, FG On) - UV [+220/500+885mVLock] OC vs Vantage +150/200 OC Side-by-Side - Legion Pro 7i
00:53:13 - The Witcher 3 (QHD+, RT Ultra, DLSS Q, FG On) - UV [+220/500+885mVLock] OC vs Vantage +150/200 OC Side-by-Side - Legion Pro 7i
00:53:52 - Recommended Settings for Throttlestop Undervolt - Legion Pro 7i
00:54:04 - Recommended Settings for Vantage Custom Mode - Legion Pro 7i
00:54:37 - Recommended Settings for MSI Afterburner - Legion Pro 7i - Hry
i just caught the bh sale and mine will be here tomorrow. this could not have come at a better time! appreciate you!
I picked up my Lenovo Legion pro 7i last week. This video is gold. I appreciate all the work you've put into this!
just overclocking the GPU from the Lenovo software, 215 MHz boost. measured it a few times. digging it! Can't wait to see what I get undervolting the CPU!
Hey man, I just wanted to say thank you for this video and for how detailed you are explaining the process. You got yourself a sub.
this was a beautiful video.. thank you... followed your steps exactly... great performance increase.. i think i will keep this now
Cheers for the guide and reviews. For best results with this laptop I can say 100% positively to turn off "CPU to GPU Dynamic Boost" as it causes micro-stutter in numerous games. That goes for all 4080 Intel laptops from what I've learned.
Also go into the bios and enable e-core parking with FN + K, e-cores are causing my unit to occasionally stutter on youtube videos where the sound goes horrible for like .1 second as well as sometimes desktop icons become unclickable among other suspect behaviors that seemingly all went away with e-core parking.
Where do you turn that off? (the CPU to GPU dynamic boost)
I've got the KWCN38WW update (vs the 32WW you're showing) and it looks like they may have done away the CPU overclocking options. There are only a couple sliders for the GPU.
@@paulbreaux909 that's cause you need to unlock CPU overclocking in the BIOS
My bad, I didn't watch the whole video. @@anibalhuneeus
Hmm interesting, I was just messing with that setting last night, I have the AMD variant but I wasn’t really understanding why at 75w is the threshold for cpu to gpu dynamic boost. I didn’t experience micro stuttering at all but that could be because AMD can keep clocks running high with lower power then Intel maybe? Idk tbh I think I would preferred the Intel version. I will say I’ve had zero issues with thermals with the 7945hx to my surprise it actually runs cool as hell.
Was able to get 34290 CBR23 with really good temps. :) 22537 total timespy score. (13900HX/4090)
How? What are your settings?
@@joshuam4993 I'd have to redo them. Right now I have everything tuned for better temps w/o a noticable decrease in performance for gaming.
What settings?
For everyone here, the AMD Lenovo Legion 7 doesn't have PBO or CPU overclocking.
You can enable the extreme setting in the bios and in vantage there is the GPU overclocking same as with the Intel model.
A little bit of a shame that there isn't options on the CPU but that might be AMD more than Lenovo stopping it from happening. Either way with a 4090 this laptop is a beast in games!!
Great job. especially on the cpu. These intel laptops are known for having poor 1% lows in games due to power hungry cpu not getting enough watts when the gpu is active. Glad to see this issue alleviated by undervolting.
I've been having a nughtmare trying to get my samsung external monitor detect this laptop it detects it the first time, but after about 15 minutes or anytime after, my monitor can not detect this laptop! I have an older legion, and it works just fine, so it's not the HDMI cable! But if anyone know, please help 😢
What if you want to undervolt with the express intention of burning fewer watts due to your particular circumstance?
will the same vantage setting work for the 4080? I'm not so much looking for more performance increase as just running the laptop cooler without losing performance? thanks for the video
Hey there! In the latest bios update for the legion 7 AMD, they've added the option to CPU overclock. Do you have a means to do the same breakdown as you've done for the intel 7i?
The best results I have achieved are:
- Undervolt with Throttlestop, - 0.1 on CPU core and - 0.08 on p cores and e cores. Throttlestop is better than lenovo Vantage as you can undervolt p cores as well. Below that I will just get crashes
- GPU overclock of +200 core / +500 memory with MSI afterburner.
- I am getting 31-32k on cinebench and 19700 on Timespy (full fans). Very good improvement vs stock (29 in cinebench and 18500 timespy)
Cheers!!
Nice! Are you on Custom Thermal mode in Lenovo Vantage with full speed fans? Also do you have the CPU Overclock option in Vantage ON (green) for 5.6ghz?
are you using speedstep or speedshift in TS?
@@DamageMelody no answer?
pls do also the undervolt and overclock for ROG STRIX SCAR 16 RTX 4090. THANK YOU
I hope the Lenovo software gives me this type of customization in their software with the AMD variant, I’d imagine it will with just different power levels and boost times I believe you can increase the PBO to last longer just like you can with Intel turbo mode. Guess I’ll find out. Is that something you know?
Were you using a laptop cooler throughout the video?
how were you able to use throttlestop? i and msi afterburner. i can't slide most of the slider in the app. please help
What smart mode in the bios does it help or hurt gaming performance?
Gizmo can you do a legion pro 7 (non I) with the AMD cpu? I just bought one with a 4080 32gb of ram, ram speeds are 5200 on amd compared to 5600 on Intel but I have a feeling I can get the AMD mem controller to push 5600 easily unless it’s a limitation from their IF.
I can OC my GP66 memory like +1800mhz but is that even improving performance at that point ?
I heard boosting the memory over ~10% (700 in my case ) will end up in calculating artifacts back to normal is that true and might reduce performance?
I need help!!! Just got my legion 7i pro 4090 32gb 2tb. I only have sims 4. 10 days in 3 days of playing. 36 37 38 Celsius. Warning temp may damage battery. I have a klim ultimate and a keibn 9 fans. Now difference today air went out about 88 inside apartment. Won't be fixed til tomorrow maybe that's it? Concern what happens once I start warzone and other ganes like that. Do I need to return?
Is it possible to set up two profiles in the Bios, one for hand core gaming, and one for more battery saving browsing?
I believe they have already over clocked the CPU for 1 active cores from 5.4x to 5.6x .. for 13900hx it should be 5.4x default
What's the verdict on the AI additions for performance
Where did you find the lenovo cpu Oveclocking Dive ?
Would you be willing to give some insight on optimizing the Legion pro 7 with the AMD and 4090?
Good day! I 'm using previous years legion pro with RTX3080Ti. Have you ever experienced battery % constantly dropping even below 50% while gaming while the AC adapter is plugged in? I used your guide to undervolt my laptop but the problem still persists. Any idea what could be causing it?
there is either something wrong with your power brick or battery or charging circuit
There's a new BIOS out for this model... Wonder if it changes anything
please how to undervolt a lock bios (i have a gigabyte aero i7 11th)
thanks a lot for your responses 🙏 , still I have one more question , when im putting balanced mode wich is the recommended plan from win , it gaves me the best results, less temp ans less noise abd more fps unlike in lenovo software the balance +ai mode or performance mode that's giving me 12c more on temp , fps slightly better almost the same and the fan are noise , how it can be ?
I ended up going with the pro 7 (AMD variant) from Lenovo website, it trades blows with the 13980hx and my available options were the 13900hx or 7945hx, so based off those choices and the AMD variant being $200 cheaper, and should out perform the 13900hx, I got it with a 4080 and 32gb of ddr5 5200mhz (guess that was the max speed for the AMD variant, Intel was 5600mhz) don’t think it will make much difference as I’m sure I can mess with the bios/ ram timings and can get the IF to support higher speeds but I guess I’ll find out. I just had the 13900hx ordered and I called to cancel and get the 7945hx variant, just sucks there isn’t as much software like Intel xtu and all the stuff. I think I can use Ryzen masters with the 7945hx it also has an 80mb cache but that is because of the split ccd I believe each ccd has 40mb cache, but regardless it still has more L3 cache, then the Intel from what I researched. Seems more efficient, lower power levels to achieve same clock speeds should lead to lower temps. I’m super stoked to get this beast,
The AMD variant crushes the Intel variant in multicore, and is only like 150 points behind in single core. They both boost to 5.4 and AMD always gets faster with a modest undervolt and I’ll be doing that with 80-110w instead of 130-170w lol. I dunno seems to me like the smarter cpu, I am worried about the AMD chip throttling if they only give it that 95c throttle limit, while Intel let’s it get to 100-105c before throttling. I have yet to see someone do a legion pro 7 vs pro 7i with same config, maybe you can make a video out of it.
Hey, did you get the AMD version? How is the temps?
@@rezamajidizavie oh so also the clocks go above 5.4ghz btw, I’ve seen em get to 5.45 without enabling overclocking in the bios, you can push it to 5.65 with the bios overclock, you can change PBO settings and how long it lasts, and how much is pushes, but I only saw a small UV selection it was a +\- and the values are 1-5, I dunno if that is -1mv or if the 5 is actually a .5mv undervolt or if it’s a .05 it really isn’t that clear but .05 is like nothing so I’d imagine it’s 10-50 on those values, and you can do a 10-50mv or .1 to .5v UV through the bios. That part was confusing as hell so I’d rather just use software. I’m gonna see if this unlocked cpu let’s me download Ryzen master so I don’t have to use some third party utility, like xtu. That being said I have an Alienware m16 with the same exact specs just 16gb ddr5 and just the Intel variant (still in the box too, caught it on sale, it’s back to $2700 now but I’d sell it for cheaper 😉), and I’d like to see if it offers a wider array of tuning with the Intel chips besides some power sliders and a small (and hard to understand) bios undervolt with the AMD cpu. If Lenovo won’t let me UV the AMD cpu more, I’d almost certainly go with the Intel one cuz we have seen you have full control of that aspect of the cpu with Intel.
@@doubleshot9448
So you can't overclock the AMD cpu with the Lenovo Vantage software?
@@rezamajidizavienope
i have the same laptop, but my offset in throttlestop doesnt apply (vm, core isolation and all the bios settings are the same as in the video)
Is the procedure same for slim 7i gen 8??
Been doing a lot of tweaking and I think I've hit my limit. 36,089 baby!
In cinebench r23?
@@GizmoSlipTech i.postimg.cc/R4bVj9RN/CBR2336089.png
Would you be willing to share your cpu settings?
@@GizmoSlipTech yes
Settings?
I am Doing after a lot of testing on my Dell G16 7630 with a RTX 4070 and 130W (Stock Voltage is 0.0940 and Stock Clock is 2350Mhz):
For max Performance:
2600Mhz at around 100W with 0.0940V and an average of 71-72°C and 8400Mhz on the Memory - is it good?
For max STOCK Performance:
2445Mhz at around 85W with 0.875V and an average of 70° C and 8400Mhz on the Memory - is it good?
Fans are spinning always in Auto-Mode which is fine for me and try to hold the GPU around 70°C.
Hey. Thanks the Video. Somehow my GPU only reaches around 150watts in Timespy but reaches up to 175watts in Furmark. Anyone knows what causes this problem?
Got this one for $2649 at B&H. Promotion is still going on.
I'm looking forward to receiving my i7 Pro 14900hx RTX 4080 and using this video to fine tune it.
did u end up doing it? have the same laptop since a week ago and also using this vid as a guide to get my cpu undervolted as its getting rlly hot in a certain game, like reaching 100 degrees celcius.
did ur values kind off match the ones the vid used?
@@mugetsu9393 i do not have your pc but for my msi ge68hx you can limit the target temp of the cpu and also lower the TDP or wattage for the cpu to stay in lower temps, because the cpu won't be able to get more wattage so it has to lower it's clock speeds
@@mugetsu9393 funny, I havent yet. I'm lovig my Legion and unsure If I will tweak.
I purchased a couple of fold down stands/feet off Amaazon to lift the back of the laptop up, one of the cheapest and best tweaks I've ever made. Temps are holding out considerably with air being allowed to filter through.
Can i do the same optimization for the legion pro 7i 4080 variant?
100 percent yea you can almost any Intel laptop this will work just works a little better on the 4090 cause it’s cpu bottlenecked in some games but you will still see improvements every cpu is different silicon lottery
I have the same laptop but with a RTX 4080 and in the bios it didn’t have some of the features of such as undervolt cpu
Good day,have you tried to undervolt processor on Strix 18 ?Do you know what software is safe to use for that model?
Originally, you could only undervolt via the bios settings, but I believe if you update the bios and turn off undervolt protection you can use throttlestop now
hi there :) can you please let me know what kind of driver you installed to let you overclock the CPU? everytime when I press Install button it goes me to Update page but nothing happen....thank you in advance!
did you find a fix for this
I have the same system with RTX 4080. Should I undervolt for day to day usage and would the same settings work for i9 13th gen and RTX 4080
@neelshah1901 did you do any under volting with the 4080, if so was it successful?
Can i use this settings for the Balanced modus??
Can I undervolt my CPU and GPU and later turn to Balanced mode or Quiet mode to maybe preserve power or keep laptop quiet? If needed.
It will mostly be plugged in but on occasion it will be transported with me while I work.
Im a home health nurse.
Thnaks guys.
i have the legion pro9 with rtx 4080, 64g ram, and i9-14900hx and 2t ssd. does anything in this video help me and my rig??? thanks
Hello, I have watched your video for three days, to try to get a feel for its performance and especially the low temperatures that you achieve, I have the Legion 7i pro 8gen 2023 with the Core i9 13900HX and the RTX 4070, and there is no way that You can get your temperatures after three days, best regards and a good day.
Pro 7i with 4070 does not have a vapor chamber cooler like the 4080/4090 model.
Please reply: So i did this on the same laptop as you but with the 4070 and my fps in warzone is around 100 fps on low settings, is this normal? am i doing something wrong?
To start with his GPU is much more powerful and has a lot better clock speeds!! So obviously, i would think, you shouldnt copy paste his settings!!!! Its two very different tiers! Look for a 3070mobile overclock instead.
Dont think its gonna help though.
Hiya! How are you getting all the stats to show real time while you are running TimeSpy? I'm talking about the stats showing in blue, green, and orange letters that you are using to help dial in your settings. Sorry, it's probably a dumb question, and it is quite possible you covered it and I missed it.
Msi afterburner and Hwinfo paired with rivastatistics server. I have gone over this in videos and setup the overlay a while ago.
can i do ur settings with my lenovo 4080????
I’m just having trouble with mine with the delay in Fortnite right now 😪 the gaming is very stuttering and choppy and I don’t know what else to do about it 😭
I wonder if this laptop can runs a VR Pimax Crystal!! I just have bought one, and want to buy a VR to use in racing games.
Yes, it can run it. But optimal resolution and FPS may not be hit in every game, but many of them, yes. Think of the laptop 4090 as a desktop RTX 3090 with less vram.
Please do this with omen 17 i9 and rtx4090
Can i use do these settings on 5i pro (i9, 4070)
My lenovo legion 7 pro rtx 4090 keep blue screening memory management. It's memory modules fault? Using dual crusial 5200 64gb
Could be yea, but could be other things too. Would sens in for repair if phone support can’t figure it out. Maybe trying swapping ram module out
I don't have the CPU overclock option in Vantage, what should I do?
You need to enable it in BIOS (press F2 during boot, go to more settings, configuration)
Why am I not getting sustained 140w on stock? I am getting 78.6w on average with peak being the 165w and the current typically at 109w. My score was 26016 running on performance. Basically question would be why did i throttle so badly down to 109w when only my core 5 hit up to 97w max ? Edit: Found out why his and mine were different scores! Important if you don't know what that performance switch does! In the bios, dude didn't know what that performance mode setting was. It was to allow you to have a sustained long term tpl of 140w, that's why he was getting 29000+ vs my 26000+ in r23. He had already had it switched on extreme before hand, and that's not by default. He turned it on not knowing what it did. But i'll give him credit for making this video, otherwise I may have never known why my laptop never goes at full power. So you choose in the bios what you want. Normal or extreme performance mode. That's what that switch is for. It caps your long term TPL! So I answered if there's a difference? 26000+ vs 29000+ on The Lenovo Legion Pro, huge difference!! Lol, he was talking like it was nothing important!
i have 4080 version so can i use same settings?
i wish you write how to open advance bios settings for undervolt
Which is better, Lenovo Legion 5 pro with rtx 4060 and i7 13700HX or Asus ROG Strict G15 with 3080 and R9 6900HX? Asus is 100€ cheaper
avoid asus, the exhaust gonna kill the screen in 3-5 years
I can't understand why undervolting isn't lowering temps anymore...
I remember Dave2D posting a video saiung that undervolting really lowers the temps.
Because most modern cpus just clock higher to hit the same temps.
@@Hunter1st so if it's useless to UV to lower the temps, what to do nowadays?
@@PhilD-cs9pm Set target temperatures or turn off boosting.
@Hunter1st but I'm going to massively lose performance, am I? I mean, without the boost, my i9 will be like i5?
@@PhilD-cs9pm Just find a better cooling solution
Hi I need some help I can't decide what laptop I should go for I really need your help so I have found a asus rog strix g16 for 1.3k i9 with 24 cores which goes up to 5.6ghz and rtx 4070 with 140watts ram is 32gb 5600mhz cl40 screen 1920x1200 165hz but I want to know am I better of getting a acer helios 18 Intel Core i9 13900HX processor, one of the fastest laptop CPUs available! This is paired with 16GB of fast DDR5 RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD as well as an 8GB Full 140W RTX 4070 GPU or should I get a lenovo legion 7i Inte
l Core i9 13900HX processor, with 24 cores and 32 threads This is paired with 32GB of newest DDR5-5600 RAM as well as a 140W Nvidia RTX 4070 GPU. It can run RTX 4070 please if anyone can help me it would be much appreciated
Lenovo
Can alienware m16 undervolt?
no
I was annoyed at fan profiles only being available in custom mode
But then noticed in custom mode you can use revert to either balanced or performance or actual custom you've chosen and apply your own fan curve
Therefore in custom actually having it reset to performance mode but full fans if wanted at the same time
Easier to understand if you just look And try its confusing to explain
35:00 GPU glitch!
is this some bug or actual defect? I keep getting this glitch...
@@RiverDragonz you overclocked or undervolted too much
@@RiverDragonz or your gpu is dying
@@Skeleleman everything is stock so I guess my gpu has been bad since I bought it.... :(
@@RiverDragonz Is it a laptop? Maybe there is a bad connection between monitor and GPU? Have you tried updating the drivers and bios?
barmelly
Man, sadly I can't undervolt my 7i, I guess 😢
After some researching, I found out that I'd only be able to undervolt it if I disable VIrtual Machine and some other feature that might be getting in the way (undervolting doesn't even show on BIOS mode).
As a developer, I use WSL to work, so I did try to uncheck VM, but WSL died 🫠
Is there any other way for me to undervolt the 7i?
I only wanted to set a cooler clock for the CPU when I'm not gaming, cuz it runs above 40mhz all the time, and it's an unnecessary power consumption.
Maybe try different user profiles?