Asus Scar 16 vs Legion Pro 7i! Benchmarks, Unboxing, Display Test, Timespy, Cinebench, and More!
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- The 2023 Legion Pro 7i features the new i9-13900HX and 175W RTX 4090 laptop GPU In today's livestream, we will unbox, disassemble, test the CPU, test the GPU, test the speakers, and play 10+ games! I used coupon "EXTRA5" to get an even better discount and bring the price down to the price in the thumbnail. You can buy the Legion Pro 7i here:
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Is Asus Strix Scar 16 with RTX 4090 and i9-13980HX the best gaming laptop of 2023? Maybe. It is clearly an absolute monster machine, especially for its 5.5 lb weight. But how well does it perform? Can it match the larger Scar 18 in a smaller form factor? We'll be testing the display, unboxing it, removing the bottom, internal analysis, benchmarking the Scar 16 with Timespy and Cinebench R23, and then we'll play a bunch of games too! You can find links to buy all RTX 4000 series laptops on my 2023 Gaming Laptop Ranking List: listium.com/@GizmoSlipTech/80...
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00:00 - Legion Pro 7i vs Asus Scar 16
00:03 - Intro - Legion Pro 7i
00:43 - Intro - Asus Scar 16
01:12 - Unboxing - Legion Pro 7i
03:36 - Unboxing - Asus Scar 16
06:10 - Interior - Legion Pro 7i
10:04 - Interior - Asus Scar 16
16:51 - Ports - Legion Pro 7i
18:27 - Ports - Asus Scar 16
19:32 - Webcam - Legion Pro 7i
20:54 - Webcam - Asus Scar 16
21:37 - Speakers - Legion Pro 7i
24:24 - Speakers - Asus Scar 16
28:17 - Software - Legion Pro 7i
32:49 - Software - Asus Scar 16
34:12 - Display - Legion Pro 7i
35:37 - Display - Asus Scar 16
36:15 - Cinebench - Legion Pro 7i
39:47 - Cinebench - Asus Scar 16
40:09 - Time Spy Benchmark - Legion Pro 7i
43:06 - Time Spy Benchmark - Asus Scar 16
43:50 - Apex Legends (QHD+, Low Settings)
44:19 - Counter Strike Global Offensive Benchmark (QHD+, High Settings)
45:54 - Cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark (QHD+, RT Ultra, DLSS Quality, FG On)
47:01 - Dead Space Remake Gameplay (QHD+, Ultra Settings, DLSS Q)
47:40 - Dying Light 2 Benchmark (QHD+, HQ RT, DLSS Q, FG On)
49:24 - God of War Gameplay (QHD+, Ultra Settings, DLSS Q)
49:44 - Hogwarts Legacy Gameplay (QHD+, DLSS Q, FG On, Ultra Settings [Low Textures], RT Ultra)
50:06 - The Witcher 3 Gameplay (QHD+, DLSS Q, RT Ultra, FG On)
50:50 - Legion Pro 7i Summary
57:15 - Asus Scar 16 Summary - Hry
Highly considered the 4090 Legion for a purchase since the value is so great. And of the 40 series laptop gpus, the 4090 along with the 4080 both have more than 8GB of VRAM. I think it's important to have more than 8GB of VRAM moving forward since games will definitely require more. But with the changes to the gen 8/2023 model (decreasing quality of life features) and my budget, I ended up with the top spec'd Legion 7 gen 7 model from last year i9-12900HX with rtx 3080 Ti for about $1k less than the current top spec'd gen 8 model.
Ty for doing these in-depth reviews and for showing inside of the laptops. Good video and earned a sub!
Thanks for the sub!
Great videos, when do companies usually release their new laptops?
Hi!
If I buy that kind of top spec gaming laptop and like to use for video randering and photo editing. This is where we good choice or buying work station with RTX A5000 ?
i found the 4080 and 4090 version of the legion 7i and asus scar 16 and the legion is like 60 dollars more so which one is better
Really late to this but how's the thermal on the scar 16
HI, really loving the review, In regards to the screen caparison, i really noticed a major clarity difference, strix being so much more sharper/crisp in the games, really obv in the bar scene in cyber punk. or the colors seems quit different in some of the games. are the types of screens that different? for a cost diffrence of around 900$. the cost being 2,789.99 for legion now and 3,699.99 for the strix. is it really that different when your playing? trying to justify the extra $$ for the screen
Scar was on sale btw. Yes, screen quality is biggest upgrade vs the Legion.
Damn asus was at 5.1ghz most of the time and Lenovo barerly crossed 4.5ghz in cpu still managed to deliver more fps is impressive maybe cause of high memory speed of ram i guess
Will u test the Asus Scar 17 Ryzen 9 7945hx + 4090? I think is an amazing option, i got it for 3000$ with 2tb ssd and 64gb ram at microcenter
Hey Gizmo. Great video. Would it be possible for you to invest in a longer table where you can have laptops opened side by side? Would love to see that type of review. You have great videos. I got Lenovo legion i7 4090 based on your videos
My current table can only fit three laptops side by side, and my space is limited in my studio room. Maybe once I get another studio setup.
I had the ASUS Strix Scar 16 w/4090, but had to return it. The screen would flash randomly even more so when dimmed. It was annoying. I am now waiting for a Predator Triton 17X
Probably that mini-led screen
Can someone recommend a screen for the lenovo? I have the version with the 4090 graphics card
Is that miniled scar 16?
is hdr on for both screens ?
I want to buy either of one laptop but, still confuse which one should I go for Asus one or Legion one ?
Both are around the same price for me but, legion is 100$ less with windows 11 pro!!
Please suggest me asap!
I have been very confused with the scores that you have received with the scar 16 I currently have a GE78HX with a 13950hx and have been consistently getting 18700+ on my TimeSpy CPU scores. I do have an under volt on the CPU but I do not understand why mine is so high compared to the 13890hx. Any thoughts on this. Could it just be silicone lottery?
Timespy is a quick burst style benchmark. The GE78 can push a higher for a quick burst. Also, very little difference between the i9-13980 and 13950.
@@GizmoSlipTech I have not had any issues with my GE78HX but it is quite bulky. I was looking at getting the strix g16 with the 4080 and 13980hx but I am not sure if the cooling solution on the strix will keep up. In your experience with the strix do you think that there will be much of a drop-off in performance outside of margin of error?
@@coreyrhea7340hey man i am really confused too between the legion 7i 4080 and msi ge78hx with 4080. And since u already have the msi one can u pls tell me that which one should i go for? It would help a lot❤
Are the benchmarks shown for the legion in 1600p, or 1080p? I believe 1600p is their standard right? Also what is that annoying flashing light under the Asus scar display?
2560x1600 for both laptops, unless specified otherwise.
Yes I needed this review
whats the laptop name which is behind
We’re these results for the Lenovo using the 16 gig ram for hogwarts? It’s 0.1% is the same as when you looked at it then
Thank you very much for your review. I 'I've always the part with color gamut and nits. It is very important as the power of video card. But can you add in your test of gamut a test with an external monitor à real 4k monitor, and test the gamut and nits on the hdmu and thunderbolt 4. Most of gamers are playing on external mo itors or video maker too, so, it will be very interesting to test these video's port and nits and gamut. I will be a real Plus in you content tests. Thank you so much for all your works💋💋❤️❤️
Got Lenovo 7pro i9 4090. Was not impressed. Overheated, issue with graphics card, customer service was awful, keyboard was flimsy and got too hot. Returning and either going to get the 9 or try out the Razer 18 inch.
Which one is better compared to Scar 16 (miniled) rtx4080 or Legion 7i pro rtx4080?
Legion for performance, build and after market service with legion on site
Much better value on the lenovo IMO... and talk about the 4080 version of the lenovo at 2199 when on sale...
Have the Legion 5 2020, and taking it apart is always a pain. Same problematic area. The ROG Strix G16 is very easy to take apart. For me Legion is better for work with the numpad. Both are great. Got it with the RTX4080 and i9 13980HX, the RAM is Samsung 5600 from factory. It is great for work. With the Legion 5 (AMD 4600h) I could knit a sweater and get a coffee, when importing vector graphics files (can be thousands at a time per job). With the G16, it is literally seconds. A very nice gaming/workstation. The only two thing I´m missing is the numpad and ports at the back. The webcam is God awful LOL.
I just purchased the Legion Pro 7i w/ a 4090 for just under $2600. I haggled with the Lenovo folks as well as used some other discounts I have. I also had points from a previous laptop purchase. It is due to arrive at my home in a few days. I am excited to try this one out.
Is this good? did you compared with other laptops before making decision?
@@TheDataArchitect I had the misfortunate ability to test out a bunch as I am very particular. The Lenovo 7i is amazing. I am still using it today. I do not game a bunch, but I have not encountered a game I cannot play. Also, I like the keyboard. It is very responsive. The screen is bright and crisp. I would say for you to call Lenovo and haggle on price/options. I have tried ones from Asus, Samsung, HP, Lenovo, and Acer. For me...I have found the Lenovo 7i to be the best for my needs. It has enough RGB, but nothing over the top. If there is a drawback, there are 2 USB-C. Only one carries power. That is the port in the back deck of the laptop. Outside of that, it is great. You get the 240hz screen. I believe I am correct in saying the laptop screen has a 3ms response time.
@@steveellsworth2547
well i am confused between Legion 9i, Macbook Pro m2 max and thinkpad p16 gen 2
really confused don't know which one to buy, my budget is like $4000
I want a powerful programming machine and a gaming laptop too.
Am concerned about the heating issues as well.
no fingerprint or windows hello?@@steveellsworth2547
How do you haggle like this?
More 4080 laptops? Honestly 4090 laptops have ridiculous high prices for just 8-15fps more and an additional +600€ compared to 4080 (at least these are the prices in EU). NVidia prices for laptops this year are too high in general IMHO.
Wish a Eluktronic laptop was compared as well. I'm debating between the three. Theoretically Eluktronic should beat both, but the issue is by how much and does it cover the price. Another issue is that I prefer Windows Pro AND I prefer a good display. Been a real struggle finding a Eluktronic model that has both for a reasonable price.
Eluktronics/XMG have excellent performance, but I just wish their machines had more premium features--like higher end displays, better speakers, better webcam, and more modern design overall (lot of wasted space inside the case). Very high end laptop in terms of performance though...
@@GizmoSlipTechmy last computer was an eluktronics and it's performance was a bit disappointment, a year ago it started randomly freezing, and it is now (~2.5 years later) literally falling apart
Asus consistently hit higher clocks on cpu and higher tgp on gpu. Still lower fps? Dnt get it, is it the ram difference?
well if you look the video quality of Scar its way better than legion, legion looks like cheap video resolution like a poor acer nitro
i want to go for scar but every video review i see i see the same issue being pointed out, the display going black, don't want to risk paying so much extra money if they still have not fixed that issue.
Same lol. I like Asus design, but always ended up buying Lenovo and have 0 issues with it and better temps, fan noise is absolutely ok to play without headphones etc. I hear only issue with Asus also with their service + high pitch noise coming from the laptop etc etc. So even if I like it I know Lenovo is always solid choice.
I know your comment is old but just in case you haven’t worked it out yet. The reason the screen goes black is when you unplug from mains power and go battery only the screen will go black to adjust from the higher htz to the lower 60htz to save on battery life. The screen “blacks out” for a few seconds during this process. A heap of laptops do this not just Asus and it’s totally normal while transition to lower htz takes place to conserve battery life. @muuz6578
@@lincoln537 I know your comment is old but just in case you haven’t worked it out yet. The reason the screen goes black is when you unplug from mains power and go battery only the screen will go black to adjust from the higher htz to the lower 60htz to save on battery life. The screen “blacks out” for a few seconds during this process. A heap of laptops do this not just Asus and it’s totally normal while transition to lower htz takes place to conserve battery life.
I stopped buying the overpriced ASUS products and got this Legion Pro 7i (with the 4090), 8tb (4tbx2) Samsung 990 Pros, 96gb (48gbx2) Mushking 5600mhz DDR5 sodimm ram kit and a intel be200 wifi 7 card, all new items for $3k usd (including tax). I prefer the cooling setup in the legion to that of the scar. I am not gaming but using this laptop as a portable workstation and it is a beast. I would of paid closed to $5k if I would of gone with the scar 16. Over $6k for the Razer counterpart.
plz review Acer Predator Triton 17x.
Not sure why I thought Asus was off brand. Silly me. Great review!
Been gaming pretty hard with my legion 7i 4090 and I'm loving it I got $900 in savings too so I can't complain.
Dang how'd you get such savings! In the market for a different gaming laptop.
Same here brotha! It’s a beast
@jacobchristiansen3697 they had 16% off and I got military discount and $100 off coupon so I got very lucky
When tuned the Legion can perform better than every other major 4090 laptop out there except water cooled hardware modded ones from Eluktronics and XMG. With my 24/7 stable prime95 Testmem5 config, I score 23,000 GPU and 19,700 CPU in 3dmark timespy
Unfortunately I can't post links to the results because Google / YT keeps censoring it
I didn't overclock anything, only undervolted both GPU and CPU. Disabled Lenovo and Intel's performance gimping drivers.
The MSI GT77 is also faster than the Legion in terms of Timespy GPU score--but obviously super expensive. Otherwise, I'd say the Legion is on par with the best RTX 4090s out there in general (Blade 18/Omen 17), which is to say has excellent performance.
This video appears to be made up of various separate reviews. Overall, it looked like the Legion 7 pro smacked the Scar pretty hard in every category except the screen. Lower temps, better performance, better build, better ports location, cheaper price, and unlikely to get coil whine that Asus adds to their laptops. Watching the gameplay on my oled phone, the only game where I saw the Asus colors pop was in the witcher. I thought the Legion screen looked better in the other games. I know it's a youtube video captured on another camera so it may not represent real life viewing.
Yes, it is a combination of two longer livestreams that were dedicated to each laptop specifically. Scar 16: czcams.com/users/liveG-MxUsUBbn8 Legion Pro 7i: czcams.com/users/liveAGVIGiojqy4
I'm about to throw £3000 at a new laptop so thanks for this . legion 7i seems to beat the 9i in a few ways. Subbed today . cheers
Can I work with Lenovo in the library? Can it disturb people in silent mode?
Silent mode should be good on both, assuming the Scar does not have coilwhine on your unit.
other suggestions?
Possible upgrade this Strix with Ram 5600mhz,its will support it?🤔
it will support DDR5-5600 from various kits as long as they are single rank 2x16(32GB) (memory chips banked on one side of each stick/module) or it will handle DDR5-5200 dual rank (memory chips on both sides of modules) I am currently running a DDR5-5600 (2x32GB-64 GB total) kit in my SCAR 16 but it's running at 5200mhz. It's cleared up a lot of my 1% lows in games like Hogwarts Legacy and Jedi Survivor, both which really are impacted by RAM speeds when it comes to stutter/1% lows. I am perfectly happy going from DDR5-4800 cheap Hynix to a much faster/higher quality Crucial kit.
Wow, crazy to think the Asus has the better binned cpu and higher wattage gpu and in games 10-15fps behind the legion…. Also the cooling seems better in the legion.
Cooling defo better in legion. Rog's cooling is not so great, especially after 1 year usage.
So what is better? Scar 16? Or Legion pro 7i?
Answer: Scar
@@maxvorobyev9596can you tell me why. I need a laptop for gaming, working with 3D and 2D graphics and creating animation + programming. I also create games and I move often, and the reliability of the laptop for frequent transportation is important to me. And good cooling didn’t hurt
Wish the scar 16 had a metal chassis. For that price you'd expect it
Some people prefer the quality plastic, but I hear you... the trick is the expensive mini led screen being the best you can buy. The bloom can be annoying at times though.
in term of screen quality aside of resolution, how Scar 16 screen comapred to Legion 9i screen? I have both Legion 9i and Blade 16 mini led, but never compared them to Strix Scar 16@@GizmoSlipTech
@@Dserebrakov they are all pretty similar in terms of perceived brightness, but the Scar 16 hits the 240 hz QHD+ sweet spot for resolution and game performance. The Legion 9 and Blade 16 being high resolution will be more valuable to some people who arent as focused on gaming
Due to the screen, the temperature increases by about 5-10 degrees which is Asus Mini LED, but in terms of performance, I saw Legion better. If you game less, Asus is a good option. When it comes to gameplay, Legion seems more logical. Asus color quality is very superior, even legion could not show some effects, it is obvious that Asus does not build only on games with this model.
Shouldn't have ignored the outrageous qc issues on Asus this year. There is almost a 50 percent chance you will get a machine with coil whine which is simply unacceptable. You can't work with that static buz. It will drive you mad. On the other hand Lenovo is quite as a whisper in silent mode. Even if both are priced same, I would still consider Lenovo. Plus the vapour chamber has done better job in cooling the machine. Screen is the only department where scar outshines legion.
Coilwhine is annoying if you are a noise sensitive person. The coilwhine on my unit would not be that noticeable if I had fans going at all. But I do prefer not to hear it at all, which is one of the reasons I did end selecting the Blade 18, since it is so great in the fan noise and quality speakers departments.
I have heard some people's coilwhine went away over time, and from a recent buyer who said there was none. I had several reports of coilwhine in a row at launch though... Not good.
My biggest concern for my Blade 18 is battery bloat and the flickering while in hbyrid mode. Going to have to see what happens with that.
Agreed but screen is a big deal
legion 9i has entered the chat@@nellatl
Agreed. I bought Asus rog strix 15 2 years ago and it was taken for repair 2 times on USB ports and wireless lan card issue！
@@GizmoSlipTech 46:02 cyberpunk 77 (lenovo) has been played at balanced mode or performance mode please answer me .
Got my Asus scar 16 decked out at around 5k, tweaked it a bit to get cooler temps, more and faster ram, lowered vcore and able to get an overlock, it’s as fast as my 5k desktop with an Evga ftw3 3090 ti, maybe faster.
Im stuck between the Legion 7i pro with a 4090 & the Asus Scar 16 with a 4080. The Legion 4090 is $2800 & the Scar 4080 is $2900 at my local micro center. Heard the Scar has had some coil wine & thermal issues. Have you had any issues? Kinda leaning towards the Legion but Ive always had Asus products such as my current laptop & desktop gpu. Hard to switch brands
@@jordans486For this price Legion no doubt. Lenovo is a pretty reliable brand, don't worry.
@@jordans486legion monitor is garbage if that's something you care about or if you do design work. But legion wins in everything else.
@@SchwarzeSun It's definitely far from being garbage but indeed Asus is better there.
i like the scar 16 but the price difference between the two is too much for me especially considering that I got the pro 7i 4090 for 2400 before tax. What I can tell you is if you can afford the scar 16 go for it. the display's color gamut difference between the g14 6900hs and legion is noticeable to me. the g14 has better colors when compared side by side.
for 2400?..which website?
bhphoto. they run frequent sales on this model. most common has been $2700@@vikramadityareddy1554
I had a légion, it costed 1.3 millión huf, it went wrong after 1.5 years
Asus with the liquid metal still super hot lmao stop buying asus products guys, I myself have it but sheesh super hot temps even when playing minecraft
Ever since Asus screwed me on their android tablet warranty im avoiding them. Service is garbage
I heard Asus displays stop working after 2 years. Is that true?
Legion is better Overall, but I'll 100 percent choose Asus just for the display. SRGB on a 3000 laptop is a massive deal breaker
HDR looks pretty bad in most games and Windows imo. My friend has an HDR10 monitor and he just runs it in SDR anyways because it looks better. Windows is in sRGB anyway so I'm assuming you meant SDR.
Asus has the vastly better screen it seems, lenovo needs to step up cause screen is the most important thing for me when choosing.
how is it vastly different ? the build quality is so much better on the legion is not comparison let alone the thermals ?
@@justabeardedguythatisahero9848 better dcpi color rating, i saw both and the color just pops more on the asus
@@niloykesslar2447
A miniled that asus provide is not really that great tbh, I would not recommend for anyone, go check both on hdr and see for yourself which is better for you
the asus 16 strix scar is high end laptop, but does not provide a good build quality and a lot of people who I knew did send it back because it was not that good .
Yea but everything else is worse comparatively. You can get an external screen if you need it. You cant fix poor service from Asus
@@Cenot4ph yeah, you are right but for some people external screen isn't an option, for me in a laptop, the display is the main thing i consider
Legion is better
No it’s really not. Asus Strix Scar has more power and better cooling. Better GPU usage as well. Literally played a Scar for 6 hours and the temp never went beyond 70 degrees
@@brandoncook8300for the massive price difference, it probably really is
Yup the simple and straightforward answer 👍
@@brandoncook8300I own the asus scar there’s some problems the stuttering screen is awful
@@alisinarezai4539when does it stutter?
Legion just lead like 3-5 FPS, but damn Scar is way better screen resolution while legion looks cheap video quality
Just because it's brighter doesn't mean the Legion's screen is bad. Video compression prioritizes scenes with higher gamma so yes the Scar will look better, but in reality the Legion's screen is still really good. I have one and I'm always amazed at how much the colors pop. Certainly not worth paying $700-1000 more for the Scar. And the difference is way more than 3-5 FPS in every game.
@@nocommentarygaming2644 thats why legion cheaper, the quality of screen is not apr to scar, simple as that thats not debatable
@@joeymanny So you would pay $800 extra for 300 nits extra brightness? Because Windows runs in sRGB so that's all that matters and both have 100% in that respect. And I don't even put my 500 nit Legion on max brightness because I find that's already too bright for me indoors. The Legion also has other advantages that just make it a better overall laptop (like performance, temps, undervolting, etc).
Actually ASUS accidental damage protection is a gimmick... 🤣. 😂. After buying an ASUS Product you're on your own. They don't care at all... Unless you pay double the price you brought it.
Asus automatically wins because it has a centered keyboard.
Lol that's stupid. Left hand spread farther apart makes for a more comfortable experience, so I would argue the opposite. It certainly isn't make or break either way.
I was ready to buy it , but I build mini atx Ryzen 7800x3D with rtx 4090 for the same price and I'm getting double performance in games , I'm playing everything in 4K ultra and more than 130fps in the most demanding games and I couldn't play it in 4k with scar 16 more than 55fps. What a nice choice I did not buying a laptop 🙏
Hey, desktops are great! I usually own a desktop and a laptop. But some people need the mobility, some people don’t. Some people want to play at 4k, but I think most of us are super happy with QHD resolutions, especially considering that is the native display resolution. Congrats on your desktop, but lets not put down others favorite tech just becuase you don’t need to be mobile.
Yeah I agree with @@GizmoSlipTechthat both serve different needs. If you want raw power while using more energy then go build a desktop. I current have a 7800X3D with a 4090 FE as well. That's my home setup and I also have a Strix G18 4080 to use around the house. Lastly I got an Ally for in the go. If I want something bigger in the go the I'll grab my Flow X16 or Blade 15 OLED.
😂 this has always been the case. Although only recently we can see comparable performance with desktops.
Pure biased!
I bought a legion pro 7i without rgb it look like gay for me 🤣
I'm surprised with the cooling it's very effective good laptop 👌🏻
Asus looks cheap