What "Tekken" Looks like Around The World
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I'm PhiDX, I play Tekken professionally for @ParagonFGC and ArcadeShock.
“It is important to draw wisdom from other places. If you only take it from one place, it becomes rigid and stale. Understanding others, the other elements, the other nations will help you become whole.”
-Uncle Iroh
Apparently I play like a european...
"What your'e plus? Let me do a slow ass launcher."
a true european is mashing armor moves at all times if even slightly negative (or victor)
A true European loses to North Americans
Holy fuck I'm so European hahah
😂😅 Yo and some of these slow ass launcher hit because nobody expects them on negative frames
@@yellowscarlightningscream8347 and that is true lmao
you win 1 game out of 7 bec of that strat.
Brain: ThaI's a good strat, keep doing that shit.
I enjoy the South American style
Don't let anybody know your next move, not even yourself
I don't know how else to say it other than your analyses and your way of speaking is just perfect for this kind of content because you are so articulate and know how to make the explanation make sense. You've got something special here man, also thanks for teaching me Tekken.
I do British style Tekken, I don't do any research or studying. I just play ranked, with Kazuya, spam electrics and then complain about how hard my character is :)
At least you can do electrics so it's not that hard for you.
This was hilarious!! 😂😂😂 British style appears to be heavily adopted almost everywhere.
The mindset you described in those JP FT1 tourneys made me think of how you'd have to approach a street fight. Unlike in an organized combat sports fight, where you'd have some of that meta knowledge to work with going in, or more rules to help you poke for knowledge in the moment, you have to read your opponent and execute your own plan pretty much simultaneously. It's an interesting thing to think about.
I could watch these kinds of videos all day, love the analysis. Tekken 8's my first one and it's been a fucking godsend having your channel to run me through the basics, I love this game.
7:53, yeah that's what i observe with Nobi's playstyle, he always try to end the round as fast as possible.....but then he's start to fell off in the last 25 second 😂
If this channel doesn’t have 100k subs by the end of the year il be shocked... S tier content every video
Yeah these new waves of Tekken channels is dope.
@@djfusionkotb This channel started posting Tekken content 7 years ago and regular posting of Tekken content 4 years ago.
I would love a video about how to read and analyse your opponent.
As a newer player I realised I don’t do this actively.
I would like to know what to watch out for and how to adjust during a match.
Since I started watching your video my tekken skills have gotten so much better I did my second major tournament and first one I finished 25th out of 56& came back kept grinding watching your videos and this past weekend I finished 9th out of 36th🙌🏾
im new to tekken and fgc in general ur content is really helping me with my tekken 8 journey! very insightful and clear!
Love the content Phi. Keep it up. It's helping my improvement a lot
really love your channel, I'm a Tekken newcomer and I love that community has content creators like you. Really informative and positive
THIS is why Arslan Ash's Zafina was so deadly
The real question is, how do I get good when I have a full time job? How much time must I sacrifice a day to get good? Seriously if I wanna be a pro in a few years, how much time a day do I play this? I work from 2pm - 10pm, so I basically only have my waking hours.
Study what you can and work on little things here and there. As long as you're practicing, you're making progress. Plus, once it's ingrained into your muscle memory, you'll always be good.
in due time with enough commitment and consistency anyone will get good
Work on a single thing every day from a single match. "I want to break this throw." "I want to duck this string from this character" "I want to sidestep this move"
The real questions right here
I think it's at least 5 hours per day. Bare minimum
I have always noticed a difference in the various play styles but man, the way you put it into easy to understand words is great. So much easier to understand. This makes me enjoy the game even more.
I now realize that I struggled with certain characters exactly because of me playing in EU style!
Now that you mentioned these styles, I think I will try and study other styles better and fully understand how to mix them up
It is true that I often rock-paper-scissor my matches and it's the reason I find I have a decent consistency at reading others (reason why I prefer characters with reversals, since I manage to use them consistently) but this style is, probably, the reason I have a 45-50% win rate
I'm literally gambling my matches on reads trying to figure out other EU style players with my EU style
Damn
More study to do, love it
I just stole a match by parrying the low after Azucena's clap into rage art and I feel like a Tekken god and I just needed to tell everybody.
True Tekken happens in the orange ranks.
i woulda went mid.
just me tho im like that.
Lmao
Hey not sure if you take suggestions but I was wondering if you could expand further on the topic such as like pulling out a map or an atlas and discussing the different styles of play around the world and which player(s) embody each style the best, that way it'd give some solid direction on who people could look at when they try to study the style. I really loved this video, I always pondered this question myself.
On another note, without a doubt you're the #1 Tekken content creator in the game rn frfr happy to see how much you've grown as a content creator and player.
I mean, you could just go by the top players in each region.
Korea - Knee / LowHigh
Pakistan - Arslan / Atif
Japan - Nobi / Ao
NA - Joey Fury / Anakin
EU - Joka / Sephiblack
PhiDX has been killing it with the content since Tekken 8 was released! Much better than other channels. You're so good at explaining these concepts. Could you do an in-depth Lili guide?
Interesting the way you tried to describe typical Japanese playstyle. I remember asking Suiken about my playstyle and he said I reminded him most of Japanese playstyle. I wouldn't say I play the actual RPS 50/50 guessing well especially with how my ghost ai plays. A ton of the difficulty and strength of ghosts in T8 seem heavily influenced on if you yourself are good at enforcing 50/50 playstyle.
I would say my style is predominantly rhythm/timing based to a fault, I'll find the flowcharts that typically works for me and run those as my plans (if I'm on point I'll switch between them seamlessly or fluidly) against the opponent during my offensive mindset. My defensive mindset is mix of finding counterhit opportunities and gaps where I can squeeze in crud that hurts the opponent hard that they don't want to run the normal plan against me. I play Yoshimitsu who has a ton of the best risky counterhit defensive play options for this, blade flash is the most obvious one for people, but there's also CD2, rookick, hopknee, and FCDF4. These are on top of the game buffing [sidestepping] movement and Yoshimitsu's backdash even being buffed if you ask me.
But anyways, I'll refrain from ranting on about Yoshimitsu any further, back to the playstyle discussion. I think your theory about the FT1 style checks out for Japan, at least for why I developed my playstyle the way it is. I've been playing Tekken actively since the console online tag 2 days and even still I mostly spectate and only do short sets. Tag 2 this was especially the case however because I only played in rooms with quite a few others and this was like a classic arcade type style. You get in line to play in these rooms and you only get FT1 against everyone to win and maintain your streak or you're back to the end of the line. Tag 2's rooms were even longer than T7's so spectating in full rooms you're subconsciously encouraged to change up and learn from watching everyone playing before you in this type of environment, I didn't start playing competitively at all in Tekken until end of T7 S1. I still don't even have a regular sparring or training partner in T8 and I just did my 2nd long set with someone ever in T8. I think long sets are my biggest weakness in Tekken.
I'll leave this comment with this quote I feel is relevant since I saw someone quote Iroh from Avatar. lol
"A man doesn't excel because of his style. It's only when a man can go outside the bounds set by his system that he excels. If a martial artists can practice a style without being bound or limited to his particular school, then and only then can he be liberated to fit with any type of opponent." - Dan Inosanto
This is a real gem of a comment
bro. You are my master. The one who defeated both KNEE and ARSLAN
I love this topic please do more of these. Great video as always 🙏
As European thats why we love Mishimas because they fit perfectly into that. Looking at MainMan, MoMo and Medusa we have insane Mishima players because of that. And yeah we will do the low, especially because you wont expect it: "risk reward would be terrible hes in the lead hes not gonna risk a low" Europe: "im not gonna sugarcoat it" f,n,d,df,4,1 "Win"
Not the best examples I'd say
@@nobodyknows-hb5ge Literally all 3 of them are objectively VERY strong players, the literal only way you could disagree is by comparing them to touring, competing, professionals. They're great examples.
@@nobodyknows-hb5ge def not the best examples lol
They all perfected fundamental and movements,
But in western tourney most players are lacks defense and doing panic 50/50 flowchart mashing
@@nobodyknows-hb5gehow are boxing champions not good examples just cause they’re not prime Tyson?
Gotta say that you're the first person I've seen that actually breaks down the word "style" in an analytical way. Far too often I see players/streamers use the word "style" but don't actually know what it really means when it comes to the differences in regions. It's especially difficult IMO to nail down the Pakistani playstyle since there's really only Arslan and Atif to look at, and it's hard to define an entire region's playstyle based off of a sample size of 2 players. You've done amazing research to clearly show those styles and make it easy to understand for all levels of players. FGC community is very lucky to have someone like you!
Yep, started out with Pokken where there’s only one and done system on ranked matches heavily shaped my preference for mind games/setup/mixup characters in my subsequent games/play styles.
Ranked in Asia Region on PC is brutal af. Half of yellow rank players I encounter feels like the typical red rank guys I see on YT.
I've met Hafiz tanveer in online and didn't even try on 2nd set. I can never beat a man who's 2-0 against knee and arslan.
I've actually matched up against Asian regions before in ranked (I was awake at 5 am and couldn't go back to sleep lol) So far for me it felt pretty similar tho.
We're not beating the accusations of (South)/East Asia ranked being the most torturous place to play Tekken online
And I am fine with it
Would love to see a video on how to improve defense in general, hope you do it someday! Great content
this dissection and explanation to the different styles is absolutely fantastic, but also extremely intimidating. im an old, old player who prefers to watch strong players now instead of putting myself through the stress, but to hear the analytical break down is great for anyone who listens to this - we didnt have such resources back in the day like this
People complain how Arslan is boring to watch because of how defensive he is. In the end they don't know Koreans are more defensive. They just don't see how high level Tekken game is played.
All that matters in a fight is who walks away - some fake Japanese mob boss
Clutch video, lookin to pick up another character and wanted to start from ground zero while choosing p2 side cuz I'm weak there. Great topics lately, keep up the great work, very helpful info consistently.
Awesome stuff. Thank you for explaining.
"Too much neutral. You've lost!"
6:40 As a player from scotland (no quite EU) i feel personally attacked 😂😂
You cracked this game too fast . Even people like me who played this for more than 20 yrs didn't know this extreme advanced shit!
I would LOVE some Shaheen analysis if you're looking for video ideas! I don't see a massive amount on him for T8 and he teaches fundies very well - but love your work so far too!
Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰🇦🇫 phidx my brother ❤
Speaking of Africa. When I visited my family in Senegal. Tekken 3 on the Playstation and X-Men vs Streetfighter in the Arcade were my first real exposure to fighting games.
Because of the language barrier I couldn't really talk with my cousins as our shared English wasn't that great, but we still had a good time.
Yeah, for Pakistan, i think part of it is KOF influence. Arslan has KOF background. They play sort of 2D in a way.
Like Devilster, I see a lot of backdashes. The match of Devilster and CBM, one is really backdashing and then go up in your face while CBM is looking for opportunities and whiff punish sidesteps.
Tekken is still kinda 2D. 2.5D perhaps and that's why it feels solid. 2D with sidesteps. Games like Soul Calibur or DOA are full 3D game and the movements are 3D, it's something I feel like going into for some reason.
Tekken is really a nice spot of 2D and 3D
"That was the big reason they blew up in tekken 7" nah i think they blew up in tekken 7 because that was the first tekken game they played internationally...
So far my favorite thing to do in the game is do that REALLY hard defensive option, like side step duck Azucena, don’t know what kinda style that is but it’s the most enjoyable for me
I mean I'm sure all styles do that, but Korean is the most defense-based. I did the sidestep duck on Azucena's WR move multiple times, but never managed to get a punish in ffs
3:41
Love the transparency
I feel like europeans also play like there is no in game clock, they just go for putting your health bar to zero as fast as they can. I noticed the opposite with american tekken, they really seem to switch gear when they have a life lead and play the defense and let the timer run down and hold the advantage. im european btw
Already the goat of T8 and it's been out less than a month
Playing a lot of offline Dead or Alive growing up ingrained that Pakistani style rhythm breaking poke/counter hit game into my brain. The way strings/hitstun/counters work made it a necessity!
This kind of reminds me of the different boxing styles.
Pressure fighter
Out-boxer
Brawler
Boxer-puncher
My boxing knowledge is pretty poor, but it seems equatable, and i wonder if we could learn from those styles
Good stuff PhiDX
It's interesting to think about where and who these styles comes from. Like if the European style tends to be known by high combo technicality and damage awareness, I would think that is because of that meta more or less revolving around super akouma being the guy on top and the man to beat for a while and everyone basing their game on him
thank you for the amazing videos, best tekken channel
This is a fantastic topic 👌
Yeah SBO and FT1 style events were a huge part of how the Japanese competitive scene grew up; because their anti-gambling laws are so ham, tournaments were always lower stakes and less of a focus when events did happen (as opposed to just getting casuals in and stuff)
The moment you described the European style I was like “that’s it, that’s me!” Now it’s a question of how to get even better within that mode. I love your analyses of this game man, keep it up!
That makes sense about the Japanese Style. Nobi, for example, is recognized for playing a highly oppressive style.
PhiDX
I love that the EU style also applies to so many other games where we just go for risk reward, but only consider the reward haha
3:35 "Im not korean thats way I got hit" 😂
why*, not way.
I’m an old head. I wear that badge with pride. You can say it lol
Don’t limit yourself to one style pog
Video request: I read recently that in tekken, if your string/move leaves you at small - frames (the guide said -3), then it's still your turn. This was really mind-blowing for me as a 2d fighter player, where if you're safe but -, you should just block and wait for your turn/take the throw/maybe try to tech. I assume this means you can do something with small - frames, and then pick a movement option to beat a section of their options if you have a read on the situation. Is this idea valid in 3d fighters, and if so could you elaborate on it for us 2d players?
If you want to learn more about that I recommend watching gajimaru's "Tekken 7 Alisa- How to poke for whiff creation" on YT. Even though it's a character specific guide it does a great job introducing the concept in a way where you can start applying it to any character and your general gameplan.
Until Phi gets around to this, try searching up a video called "Tekken 7 Alisa - How to Poke for Whiff Creation" by gajimaru.
It's Alisa focused (obviously) but it does a really good job of illustrating the options you have while slightly minus and how by threatening movement which might make your opponent whiff, you can dissuade them from pressing buttons and so continue your turn.
It really levelled up my game; hope it helps!
Some characters have a really strong -frame game because of their movement or fast counterhit. Reina, Lili, Asuka and Lee off the top of my head. Like when you block Lee's df1, he's - but you are more F'd then he is. His Magic 4 will beat your fastest mid and his d3 will launch your high string you do to not eat Magic 4 and if you try to step and punish cuz you don't wanna get counterhit his 1+2 mid will counterhit you. That's why Tekken is so beautiful, one poke can lead to tens of interactions. Now what you can do is use your pokes and see how your opponent likes to react to them (duck, step, backdash, poke, big commintment etc.) and you can immedietly formulate a gameplan based on rhythm and timing.
3:35 😂😂😂😂
I play underworld Tekken...... The moves that gets me blown up
Perfect explanation of Pakistani Tekken
Good observation... Moreover, Pakistanis also have great guessing skills on a high level.
My style is...trash
My wife thinks im hella good tho, she tells everyone
You lucky man
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In EU we play for fun, we don't care about competitions.
Same in every country in the world we play to have fun
@@tenzinsherpa776What I mean is you don't hear about competitions here, there's next to no tournament either, where it seems that everyone is a pseudo top rank player when you scroll down comments in US youtube videos. Git gud and so on messages don't originate from european fgc, if such a thing even exists.
What do you think contributes to Europeans, Pakistanis, and Koreans having a distinct style while NA does not? You touched on how Japan's style arose from how they ran tournaments, and I would assume that Pakistan would be a relatively insular scene, but what would make NA more variable?
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watched this video 2x now, i really want to change how i approach my "style". do you think NA has a specific style?
Nope there are lots of pockets in NA
I think this best defined high level footsies
Best Tekken content creator by far
So America is Tekken hotpot. Got it.
Would you say that T7 is a great game to hone your fundamentals on since some of the risks e.g low parry into full combo is now no longer a thing in T8?
I personally enjoy EU and Pakistani styles. It reminds me of how we played in the US before Korea came and crushed our confidence. Think 5.0 and DR era.
your guide are so helpful
what would the :american" style be only high end americans ive see is ghangas don anakin and lil majin but i havent noticed anything between the 3 to recognize as a style
Can you descript TH Tekken ? if they have specific style or enough players for you to summarize.
'I'm not Korean that's why I got hit' lmfao
How would you describe the Japanese playstyle PhiDX? Ah you putted it at the end, apologies XD
I like how you talk about korean and japanese style, but then also african and european style. 😅
I think there are definitely more specific styles throughout african and european countires as well.
I am too uninformed 😅
Sbo! 🗾
How can i do my own research? Would it just mean watching other players? What other sources can i use?
Hi PhiDX, how can I learn more on the timing game? It seems like this is something people pick up as they play over a long time but I'd like to learn more
New Choke Dix video while I finish my work? Aww hell yeah!
question for you PhiDX
I notice a lot of the time when you do live commentary on your gameplay or analysis on your replays you will often talk about "running" a certain move for a certain situation, like a tracking move when your opponent is stepping or a mid when they duck
however, doesn't simply running one or two moves at a time become predictable? for instance if a Jin were to decide "I'm going to run f4 now" wouldn't that leave them vulnerable to sidestep?
what are the advantages of this mentality of committing to running a certain move, compared with playstyles that don't do so?
It's the same in real fighting. You try to set up the situation, try to push the opponent into the move you have chosen.
It does not mean you perform just one move. It means you are concentrating on implementing a chosen move for a chosen moment which you are waiting for or inclusively setting up.
Also, can't forget the Latin American style. They were beating Koreans in TTT2 and early T7 days
awesome man!
"I'm not korean. That's why I got hit"
correct me if im wrong, but on top of Pakistani style utilizing half count plays, aren't they also known for having a gameplan when they're in minus frames?
All top players have gameplans for negative frame situations.
Fuck me I truly am European huh... using Laugh's theory I must have heart to the max, and then 50/50 on brain - muscle. AND MAN I SURE LOVE MY RATIOS
This was really cool✨🌺💕
im still trying to learn the basics...
i’m exactly the same lmaooo, i love the korean style and love to try and emulate it, but when i autopilot i go full european mode 💀😭
NA style is aggressivu just like harada intended
I LOVE OCEANIC TEKKEN 🌏🌏🌏WHAT THE FUCK IS BLOCKING🗣🗣
how about peru!? peruvian wavedashers
i am a mix of a wannabe korean style and a pretty heavy europe style haha