Screamin' Eagle Stage III Upgrades | Harley-Davidson
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- DescriptionNobody says "no" to more torque and horsepower. Screamin' Eagle components are the key to greater acceleration, increased passing muscle, & more of that rip roaring raw exhaust note that makes power more than a little addicting. Watch to learn more about Screamin' Eagle Stage III performance upgrades.
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that's a great infotainment.series, these kind of videos helps our customer and answers their questions. GOOD JOB.
Big fan of stage 3 119/122. BUT..
heads up MoCo replaced the designed for the higher 11-1 compression stage 3 kit, 498 cam & springs for the can’t breathe or rev 447 torque cam.
I think this was done because a stage 3 could produce power just a smidge short of the cash cow stage 4 kits. MoCo didn’t want you to know you could get 95% of the power for less than 50% of the kit & labor price of the stage 4.
Just tell your dealership you want the 498 cam & springs instead of the 447 cam & springs with your stage 3 119/122.
FWIW the 498 cam doesn’t lose bottom end torque like the stage 4 515 cam it simply doesn’t make quite as much top end HP. I have a fall of 2019 stage 3 114ci with 498 cam. It dynoed 116 HP and pulls at 2k rpm in town better than my stocker did.
Ummm, so where are the dyno numbers like you gave with the stage 2???!!
We ride our bikes out on the road not on dynos.🇺🇸
"Live to ride, Ride to Live"🔥
what i would like to know is what the difference between stage 2 cam and the stage 3 cam , if its only minor then you might as well nypass stage 2 and go straight to 3?
I really enjoy your videos. Do you guys have any videos on the stages one and two and three and four on the big twins
Hey Brett, to see more Screamin' Eagle Performance videos, you can head over to our main CZcams page and check out the "Screamin' Eagle Performance" collection under the "Playlists" tab. Or, feel free to follow this link: bit.ly/2UTivfC
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Now with the 114 S & Street Bob, should there be an updated video to displacement? Another question is, can the pistons, heads cam etc. of the Stage 4 be bolted on without increasing the displacement on the 114 S & Street Bob?
Hey, Ted. For more info on how to get the most out of your bike using Screamin' Eagle Performance components, we recommend stopping in at your local dealer. Thank you.
Could you point me in the right direction with part numbers for the timing cover clutch cover and airfilter cover 117 please? mine was dealer installed but they didnt replace the covers with 117's thanks
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That's exacly why everybody is sick and tirex of them. You got to be out of your mine not to see how grotesques Harley is f&#? %)!! GRITTY.
Bigger boar and higher compression can you tell me what this does to the displacement number on a stock 114ci
Usually a 114 goes to 117 after stage 3
Where is a video for stage 3 gen 2
Why not make it factory oem on new bikes? Stealership upgrades.
They do they offer these kits so you can keep up with the new developments of the future rides
Lol no. For starters, it's easier to conform to EPA regulations if at stock the bikes are more "tame". It's also cheaper manufacturing, so they can sell the bikes a lower price, sell these kits to enthusiasts (which you are probably not), and stay within the limits of what regulations consider "premium"
Because lots of buyers are happy with the standard performance and lower cost that comes with it.
if i go from stage 1 to stage 3, then all i need to do is buy the pushrods? because stage2 is really the cam shaft, which is upgraded anyway with a stage3.
uhh you need the whole top end
I buy 2hand of 883 seller told me this bike upgrades to 1200.How i can check it sure 1200 not 883 orginal ?
Take it to shop you trust
I heard anything after a stage 2 is throwing your money away! A stage 2 is all ya need.
If your going to go stage 3 might as well go all the way ported and polished heads will make your bike grab you by the seat of the pants
Not gonna address the clutch?
With stage 3, am I going to suffer fuel consumption on mpg? I have stage 2 at this time.
No... I have the stage 3 and haven't suffered any additional fuel consumption. Its all how you ride. If im nailing it, then yeah. But if I'm just cruising it's like I have no stages at all. The power is there when you need it
What breather kit do you recommend for best overall performance of a stage 3 or stage 4?
We'd recommend talking to your dealer as they can give you all the different options for your bike based on your riding style and performance needs as well as answer any other questions you may have.
I did,. They say that top HP and tor QQ ur are obtained with no breather, and of course they want to sell me a 600 buck Screamin Eagle breather,. I have the fuel motor ¹20 kit in my 2018 ultra
Check out the Vance and Hines. They have real nice ones for a good price. 200-275$
So if you go from stage 1 straight to 3, do you need the adjustable pushrods of stage 2 or are the stock ones ok?
UKFlamesey stock push rods will be fine. The only reason to use the adjustable ones on stage II is to keep from taking off the heads. This is my opinion only but skip stage III and go to IV or best bang for the buck Stage II. I have the 4 and my buddy has a 2 on streetglides. 0-60 I have just over a bike length on him. He just laughs and says ok you won but my wallets not as empty as yours.
Yeah I think I’ll just go Stage 2
I wish the the clutch could handle the extra torque and Horsepower!
How many shop hours does it take to install the stage 3 kit ???
That’s usually like 8-12 hours
@@ericnuernberg3901 : Thank you for the info !! 👍
Approximately how much for installed Stage III?
Hey Charlie, we recommend stopping in at your local dealer for an estimate. You can see the prices of the Screamin' Eagle Performance parts by following this link: bit.ly/3xDT8NW
I have a S E stage 1 could I go strait to stage 4?
Yes
What I'm trying to figure out is how they can sit there and say have it installed by a Harley dealer to keep your warranty intact. By federal law they cant void it just because another shop installed it unless they can prove that is 100% what caused the issues.
The never ending argument 👍🍺
For CVO road glide 2015. What’s require for stage 2?
With cam?
Hey, we recommend contacting your local dealership for recommendations on upgrading your bike with Screamin' Eagle parts. They will be the experts in your area that will help you get what you need to boost the performance of your bike.
As far as I know most CVOs already have stage 2 👍🍺
Can you do a Stage II or Stage III without doing a Stage I.
Hey Brad. Stage 1 Screamin' Eagle upgrades set the foundation for additional Screamin' Eagle stage upgrades. You can learn more about Stage 1 Screamin' Eagle upgrades here ➡️ bit.ly/3qdptWV
this is a 107 to 117 ci conversion?
107 to 114 ci and a better cam 👍🍺
I have oil transfer issues right now 2017 ultra classic at dealership waiting for vent kit called to again part should have came in on last Friday now its Wednesday tech said maybe this Friday the part will come in ??? Fbs
Mo powa baeba
If you have a103 and do a stage 3 what does it bring you up to, a 107? 110?
Big D I don’t believe the 103 is the Milwaukee 8 Motor.
Ya would assume a 107 and stage 4 would be 110 idk taking a guess
What size motor in a ninja to beat a dyna stage 3 kit??? Curiosity in comparisons
why would anyone pay $2500 to $3500 installed too upgrade to a stage 3, when they could just buy the 114 instead of the 107 for an extra $1500 at retail.
Maybe they bought their bike used for a good price with a 107 and want to upgrade to a 114.
I had picked up an Ultra Limited with a 107 for a good price, bumped it up to a stage 3 and it was a loud torquey beast….couple yrs later i moved to a Road Glide with a 114 and for what its worth to me that 114 in my 2021 has more balls than the 2018 stage 3 107. To keep it fair and honest tho my new 114 does have the screaming eagle stage 1 bump on it. And Granted there are some weight differences and diff suspensions but I prefer this factory 114. Now, i just gotta convince the wife to let me take this 114 up to the 122 lol. Fingers crossed
Well if you looked at the release date of this video, it was before the 114ci was released in the specials. Not only that but a built 114ci will produce more power and torque than a stock 114ci motor.
The best option is to buy an American IronHorse, in it's STOCK configuration, and it will blow away the HDs in HP and torque . Plus they look a ton better and at a fraction of the price with a better engine and parts.
Who?
What happens to the gas mileage with the upgrade
Hey, Joseph. A drop in mpg is to be expected with the addition of the kit. How much it drops really depends on the rider and how aggressive they are on the throttle.
@@harleydavidson does that apply to a Stage 1 upgrade?
Yes, you can expect a decrease in gas mileage with the Stage 1 upgrade with the trade-off of more torque and a more powerful bike. But, how much the mpg drops will still fall on the rider.
Who cares?
If you own a M8 like my 2018 Fatbob, 2017 and 2019 CVOs don't waste money on Harley stage kits. The engine will blow up due to oil pump design flaws and/or plastic tappet guides. Yeah and $50k motorcycle with plastic tappet guides. Neither the dealer who installs it or H corp office will disclose this. S&S, Fueling or Zipper all make higher quality performance kits.
My suggestion go any where your Gina get support with your project you won't get it in kingston
All the people that complain about the upgrades, just don’t get them! They make upgrades even for Chevy cars and any other car or motorcycle that there is. It’s not just Harley👍🍺
No...... I will not do that....Not only did that brand new twin cam blow up on me, leave me stranded in the middle of no where off of I-10 in the middle of the night ; ..........when I did manage to get a tow to the Harley dealer ; that fnk service manager tried to Jack-Me-Off by trying to void my factory warranty, and I only had the bike for 6 months............
NO, this is war.........I promise you, this is one of many straws that broke the camels back.......
Gary Moore you go man, I’m done with it. Get a gold wing and shhhh🤫 good luck 👍🍺
@@ericnuernberg3901 shhhhh is the last thing I intend to do.... People need to know just how arrogant and crooked these Harley service departments are......!!!!!!!!
@@garymoore3497 I didn't know that when you upgrade or have parts changed out that people should ask for the original parts back. I was extremely disappointed when I found this out. The dealership that I bought my SGS hosed me from jump. I also found out that a lot of the "old parts" not "claimed" off of bikes are often resold at "rummage sales" at your local HD stores. Trust is a very big part of my world.....and these guys lost mine. I still love my beast, though. I'm going Stage 3 this winter cuz I'm stupid. lol.
The warranty is bs can’t even experience stock and enjoy it...60 days ain’t shit would be nice to ride it stock for a lot longer then install stage 4 and appreciate the upgrade even more would be like getting a new bike...imagine 6 months later doing stage 4 for $5,500 and the tech fucks the install up OR something goes wrong and your engine is compromised a wk later then you have to pay more for them to go back in your engine it’s bs the stage 4 should have its own warranty or some 500 mile peace of mind agreement basically a short warranty
Call zippers performance in Maryland. You get alot more bang for your buck and it'll beat these stage crap kits anyday..They know what they're doing. Unless your some big throttle jockey that needs to brag how big their numbers are just leave it alone. If you want big horsepower then you shouldn't buy a Harley.
"You know this $22,000 bike that you just bought.... You know how it's really slow right!?.... How about you spend another $4,000 and get Real Performance out of our bikes and by the way it's going to cost you labor and $500 for a retune..."
You are right sir. That's why I happily riding a Triumph Storm , and between two lights, it pulls in front any 30.000$ stage 2 Pedalson. Mabe a stage 3, I dont know yet, but I still lookin' for one more to embarass.
And that's why I am happy that I ride an American Ironhorse Texas Chopper (Originally $30K but I only paid 8K plus it has a RevLoc clutch so no tired left hand) that already kicks ass throughout the RPM range.
Think you’re getting any of that money back on trade in? Think again sir! Bend over! Haha
The tuner is already in your toolbox from stage 1 you most likely have.
@@mthewolf1095 >
How a bolt on operation can be FUCKED UP by my local Harley Davidson dealer in Rahway new Jersey Hunnans Harley Davidson, bring new streetglide special Milwaukee 8 2019 they put everything screaming eagle and fucked it up still cant fix stupid can you?
I wouldn't buy anything at the dealership after the work they did.
10 grand after it all 3 dynos the last one being 6 hours the timing never changed it looks like Harley home threw in random numbers in the timing map fuckin useless 2 years and pitted hi compression pistons the headwerk all pitted.
From now on I'll use Andrews ,s&s or redline Harley dealership will not see my business anymore. Sad thing I wanted all Harley racing performance I got it it just wasn't adjusted right.
Better place to throw my money away than the Kingston dealership.
I do have to say the mechanic that worked on the bike seem to do well it's the tech side. Hey I guess that's why the mechanic didn't stick around
We're disappointed to know that you had this experience, Frank. We'd like to speak with you personally to get more details about this and document it. When you have a moment, please give us a call at 1-800-258-2464.
I ride a CBR why am i here?
You mean a Hurricane?
Stage 3, three times as likely to fail.
3 times more grin factor
How so? Not as much reliability as stock over time? Or?
Harley stock been in a steep nose dive last 7 years. People are fed up pouring money into these engines which are designed to fail. People not paying 20 to 30 thousand dollars for new bikes... I predict this company will be bankrupt inside of 5 years from now..... We have access to company balance sheets, showing the company way over extended on existing loans and credit to the tune of almost 500 million dollars. This motor company not have that kind of cash to pay back..........Is only a matter of time now, before banks start calling these notes back over-due for payment............
Wow you really sound angry, just buy a Honda and get out of the Harley Davidson videos. If you hate them that much just don’t watch the videos👍🍺
@@ericnuernberg3901 We not only watching the videos, we are warning others just what a screw-job these Harley's really are..... and I mean "screw-job" and we mean "screw-job" builds.......
@@ericnuernberg3901 Because by the end of 2020, Harley will be bankrupt, and the only few remaining sources for big bore v-twin motorcycles probably will be Honda......
@@ericnuernberg3901 We have the failed cam bearing from 1999 twin-cam engine, and from 1986 soft-tail....These factory cam bearings have tin alloy cases, which are designed to fail. The timkin cam bearings are case hardened cold rolled steel cases. Probably why harley mechanics under orders to never return failed parts to customers......Now we know reason why......
The real loser here, is Harley's 1.7 liter air-cooled M-8 engine. We don't know what kind of chimpanzee monkey pack of fools decided best engine cooling was
to "turn off the rear cylinder" to mitigate engine waste heat.
Gary Moore give it a rest dude... I have lots of friends with Harleys that have never had a problem on them. Just relax 👍🍺