Tough choice. They all sounded awesome! Finally went with V&H HI Outputs on my 2020 Street Glide. Had V&H Longshots in the past on my Softails and Softail Heritage. Also had Rineharts on my Road King. Great video!
Great video... The catless headers make a huge difference... The Rineharts sound great as always but that new style does not look as good to me... S&S MK45 sounds and looks great...
should've used a static mounted dB meter at both locations, gives a better idea of volume. I love these videos, i just wish the sound level was measured, along with the subjective sound tests that us viewers will 'hear' on our side. Thanks for putting in all that work swapping these out!
I listened to the video the second time with a good set of headphones. Recommend that over the speakers on a laptop or any other device. Big difference in the sound.
Have Rhinehart slip-ons. Plenty of low-rumble for me because I like the sound of my music more than pipes and these pipes fit the bill. Be interested in Tab though. Good vid. Thanks!
M8 is an animal all to its own. The four valve heads changed the Harley sound. The counterbalance changed the Harley feel. Drill out the cats and save your money !!
That was my thoughts exactly. I went with Tab Performance slip ons , everything else is stock, gave me plenty of grumble compared to stock. Couldn't be happier. In my opinion, getting the best sounding pipe with stock headers seems like a bigger accomplishment than replacing the entire exhaust.
Donfleebie1 If you like quiet, I guess it’s ok. It just sounded like shredded paper blowing around to me. I installed a stage 1 finally with bassani road rage and I prefer it much more. It just sounds more like a Harley to me.
The stock pipes on an M8 sound better than stock on a TC. I go back and forth. I have SE Street Cannons I run for a year or so, then go back to stock, and so forth. The FP3 allows me to do this. My 2012 FLHTK ran super lean from the factory, and finally got tired of the heat and the pinging, and the FP3 solved this issue. I think I will get rid of that fn cat though, by either head pipes, or having it cut out.
I actually really like the stock exhaust, its quiet at idle and sounds good when you twist the throttle. I hate annoying Harley riders. So all of you with zoomie headers on your bike, you are just annoying. All of these sound the same.
V&H X pipe (power duals) with V&H Torquer 450s will get you a deep, throaty sound thats hard to beat - specifically designed/tuned to be used together.
As stated in the video, there isn't any noticeable power difference from one set of slip ons to the next, but there was a big difference with the head pipe change.
Did the tab performance have the zombie baffles? Makes a huge difference depending upon which baffle setup you go with. For about $550.0 the tab's with the zombie baffles are hard to beat.
i have a question about the header pipes. If I am correct, they are 1 3/4 OD, same as stock headers. I had the cat removed professionally, which gave me 14 more h p with stage 3 Harley slash downs. Bikes with this set up were dyno'd so the hp is real. I could feel the difference. That is my question, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?" I installed a Screaming Eagle Stage One induction on my 2010 Ultra Elect Glide, 96 c i. and it really rocks. I HAVE NO TUNER NO BACK FIRING. Instead of spending thousands I spent 159 from Harley for the stage one induction, 123 for the other work. I LIKE V H PRODUCTS AND THEY RUN A MEAN DRAG HARLEY. THANKS THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK DOING THIS VIDEO KUDOS, GOD BLESS.
2017 Road Glide. I cut out the bafffles. To me it sounds deep. No header change. No popping. Great throttle response remains IMO. Cost=5.00 and an hour changing those damn cheap grinding discs but the cost difference why not try it before spending 400.00 on slip-ons? Personal opinion the stock exhaust with no baffles and yet still keep the catalytic converter for backflow sounded better. I mean it's an open pipe....it doesn't sound "can-ney" to me but wish they would have compared that but that's not how "they" make money,,,,,,
It's stickier than that. Technically, yes. However, all dealerships do it. Usually they'll tell you, "if you have the work done here, your bike will be safe here.". The trouble comes in when you travel. If something breaks and it's because of the work done with aftermarket parts, you could be in trouble. A different dealership might flag your VIN with Harley and void your 2 year warranty. However, like I said all dealerships do it so there's a good chance they won't tell on somebody else's customer because... Well, plain and simple, it's bad business. On a side note, my dealership explained that extended warranties can sometimes help with these if the updates are some when you purchase the bike.
After about the third time somewhere there,I was confused to as what are we doing here?...it seemed to be repetitive as always ending up being V&H and all sounding the same 🤔🙄... When was the stock and then the slip-on's and it was always getting back to the Vance&Hines🤔🙄...which was supposed to be stock and which were slip-on's🤔🙄....Sorry but it was like you repeating again again with the same pipes,mostly the Vance&Hines....totaly learned Nothing here🤔🙄 O wait!....I came back after thinking maybe I get it now,...Its an add for Vance&Hines pipes...Yep👍😂
No, it’s not. You didn’t pay attention, did you? They compared different slip ons against one another. But they also did a comparison of each slip on muffler using the stock header pipe, and then the V&H Power Duals head pipe. What you were seeing is whatever slip on, first with the stock header, then with the V&H header. Sometimes you have to actually watch something in order to comprehend it. Tough, I know.
As in Vance and Hines Power Dual header with Rinehart slip on's. He compares each set of slip on's with the stock header pipe and then with the V&H header pipe.
@@daryllect6659 I ride my 2017 Ultra Classic with stock exhaust because Harley has all the features I wanted. There is also dealer support all across the country and any kind of aftermarket part you want. That just isn't available with any other manufacturer. I wish I had as much leg room as I had on my Kawasaki or Yamaha touring bikes, but Harley beats them everywhere else hands down in my opinion. I don't ride to be loud. I ride because I enjoy riding. What do you ride?
I think it sounds ok, but I definitely think the twin cam sounds better. For performance and reliability, I'll take my M8 over the TC any day, although Harley did do a lot to rectify the TC shortcomings.
See more at Countersteer. www.jpcycles.com/countersteer?Milwaukee_8_Slip_on_Exhaust_Shoot_Out&WS9Aih5AXds
First set of Vance and Hines were the best sounding
Rinehart's sound the best , I've had Vance & Hines and Rinehart .
Man that was a lot of work. Much appreciated. Vance and Hines have always sounded best to me but they all have their own look and sound.
I have the full V&H system on my Street Glide, hiflo intake filter and dyno tuned gave me 110 foot pound of talk and 100 hp, very happy with my ride!
I have Vance & Hines slip ons on my 2019 Street Glide but those Vance & Hines high output sounded pretty good too!
Sharp performance with enough time spent per product, Thanks!!!
Awesome comparison. A lot of work on your part so thanks very much !
Tough choice. They all sounded awesome! Finally went with V&H HI Outputs on my 2020 Street Glide. Had V&H Longshots in the past on my Softails and Softail Heritage. Also had Rineharts on my Road King. Great video!
Great companion, this helps a lot trying to decide on new exhaust. Thanks guys 😎
Thanks for all the work, very much appreciated.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. My vote is for Vance & Hines Power Duals
I got 4.5in tab performance zombie baffles slip ons on my 2014 ultra limited with stock headers and they sound AMAZING!!!!!
Them crushers sounded so good
Great video... The catless headers make a huge difference... The Rineharts sound great as always but that new style does not look as good to me... S&S MK45 sounds and looks great...
Rineharts were a standout. So much bass and warmth but not muddy sounding and when you rev them they have a solid meaty bark !
Rineharts have by far the best baffle system. Best sound too. I’m looking to get them.
Yep, that head pipe did the trick. Sounded so much better.
excellent video, thank you so very much
should've used a static mounted dB meter at both locations, gives a better idea of volume.
I love these videos, i just wish the sound level was measured, along with the subjective sound tests that us viewers will 'hear' on our side. Thanks for putting in all that work swapping these out!
Thank you!!!! Very helpful.
I listened to the video the second time with a good set of headphones. Recommend that over the speakers on a laptop or any other device. Big difference in the sound.
I play this on my car stereo loud enough for people in the Tim’s drive through to hear. Lady at the take out window says the V&H sound the best.
Vance and hines sounded the best
Thanks Pauly.
The Vance and Hines sound the cleanest with the headers
Have Rhinehart slip-ons. Plenty of low-rumble for me because I like the sound of my music more than pipes and these pipes fit the bill. Be interested in Tab though. Good vid. Thanks!
M8 is an animal all to its own. The four valve heads changed the Harley sound. The counterbalance changed the Harley feel. Drill out the cats and save your money !!
What baffles are in the tab bam stick?
Thanks a lot. Best regards to You.
Any slip ons with a deep rumbling sound is good for me.
So, remove stock headpipe removes the cat?
is it a good idea to put slip[ ons and then put a tune on the bike for an M8? will this make the nike run even better?
Power duals 👍👍👍
Conclusion - All better than stock HD exhaust!
That was my thoughts exactly. I went with Tab Performance slip ons , everything else is stock, gave me plenty of grumble compared to stock. Couldn't be happier. In my opinion, getting the best sounding pipe with stock headers seems like a bigger accomplishment than replacing the entire exhaust.
I think the stock pipes on the M8 sound pretty darn good, especially after a 4 or 5 hundred mile day.😜
Donfleebie1 If you like quiet, I guess it’s ok. It just sounded like shredded paper blowing around to me. I installed a stage 1 finally with bassani road rage and I prefer it much more. It just sounds more like a Harley to me.
The stock pipes on an M8 sound better than stock on a TC. I go back and forth. I have SE Street Cannons I run for a year or so, then go back to stock, and so forth. The FP3 allows me to do this. My 2012 FLHTK ran super lean from the factory, and finally got tired of the heat and the pinging, and the FP3 solved this issue. I think I will get rid of that fn cat though, by either head pipes, or having it cut out.
I actually really like the stock exhaust, its quiet at idle and sounds good when you twist the throttle. I hate annoying Harley riders. So all of you with zoomie headers on your bike, you are just annoying. All of these sound the same.
M8, SGS, Screamin eagle street canons, Rocket 444 torque cams, very chirpy after the cam was fitted.
I think I like Rinehart
V&H X pipe (power duals) with V&H Torquer 450s will get you a deep, throaty sound thats hard to beat - specifically designed/tuned to be used together.
I love that combination
Does anybody have a good suggestion for head pipes to pair with CFR slip on's? 2021 ST Special
'21 CVO SG with V&H Power Duals and V&H TORQUER 450s. Sounds great without being obnoxious on the highway.
Power Duals catted or uncatted ?
@@tracys2753 shhhh....we don't speak of such things 😉
Please tell me what helmet Pauly was wearing.
Any performance comparisons? I mean, they all sound pretty good. Anything but the stock pipes and slip ons. But what ones pull the best?
As stated in the video, there isn't any noticeable power difference from one set of slip ons to the next, but there was a big difference with the head pipe change.
Bassani ?
none of the slip ons need a tuner?
They are measuring all the Vance and Hines from the same angle and the others from a different angle. Really!
Yeah, I thought that was bullshit too. maybe they get a kick back if they sell/install more V&H over the others demonstrated here
They may have a higher % of profit on VH, but the test should have been done same, not much help this way.
They are probably corporate shills...
No Firebrand?
Did the tab performance have the zombie baffles? Makes a huge difference depending upon which baffle setup you go with. For about $550.0 the tab's with the zombie baffles are hard to beat.
I like the Tabs as well.
The stock sounds better than the crappy Cobras that came on my 2019
TAB all the way. I get a lot of complaints on mine
S&S definitely sounded best imo. Should have used dresser duals for a real sound test😎
Should have included Rush pipes, my personal favorite.
Did you use a catted or uncatted version of the Power Duals for this comparison?
cat model
Pauly, I'm ordering Full Boar 2 1/2 in. slip on from JP cycle for my 97 FLHRI king. Do I need to tune if I put these on.???....
No, you won’t find a tuner or anyone to tune it anyway. Early fuel injection is garbage
Stock is the clear winner...
Maybe you should do the test the same way next time
I'm team rinehart
Why change locations on the V&H?
David Phillips exactly. Seems fishy to me. That change removes the objectivity from the comparisons.
CORRECT VANCE & HINES EVEN BIG RADIUS SOUND BETTER ASWELL ON THEM..BAFFLES OUT..
What fuel programmer did u guys ???
czcams.com/video/dHgYGudQOSQ/video.html Here is the link to the programmer. Thanks for watching.
i have a question about the header pipes. If I am correct, they are 1 3/4 OD, same as stock headers. I had the cat removed professionally, which gave me 14 more h p with stage 3 Harley slash downs. Bikes with this set up were dyno'd so the hp is real. I could feel the difference. That is my question, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?" I installed a Screaming Eagle Stage One induction on my 2010 Ultra Elect Glide, 96 c i. and it really rocks. I HAVE NO TUNER NO BACK FIRING. Instead of spending thousands I spent 159 from Harley for the stage one induction, 123 for the other work. I LIKE V H PRODUCTS AND THEY RUN A MEAN DRAG HARLEY. THANKS THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK DOING THIS VIDEO KUDOS, GOD BLESS.
Do I need a fuelpak if I put new headpipes
Yes
Fuelpak is junk, get a real tuner
FP3 is not "junk" ! But it works very well for most people.
S + S....Then Crusher
Which baffle was used in the TAB Bam?
We used the Zombie baffle
J&P Cycles that sounded quite for being zombie baffles
V&H is the best
Rinehart 1:58
Crushermaverick 2:47
S&S 3:35
Vance&hines 4:19
Try Khrome Werks
2017 Road Glide. I cut out the bafffles. To me it sounds deep. No header change. No popping. Great throttle response remains IMO. Cost=5.00 and an hour changing those damn cheap grinding discs but the cost difference why not try it before spending 400.00 on slip-ons? Personal opinion the stock exhaust with no baffles and yet still keep the catalytic converter for backflow sounded better. I mean it's an open pipe....it doesn't sound "can-ney" to me but wish they would have compared that but that's not how "they" make money,,,,,,
Will void warranty?!?!?!!
Yes. Any non HD factory exhaust/air filter will void the warranty. Had to wait till warrant expired.
the head pipe will if there is no cat in it. it is mainly up to the dealer though.
It's stickier than that. Technically, yes. However, all dealerships do it. Usually they'll tell you, "if you have the work done here, your bike will be safe here.". The trouble comes in when you travel. If something breaks and it's because of the work done with aftermarket parts, you could be in trouble. A different dealership might flag your VIN with Harley and void your 2 year warranty. However, like I said all dealerships do it so there's a good chance they won't tell on somebody else's customer because... Well, plain and simple, it's bad business.
On a side note, my dealership explained that extended warranties can sometimes help with these if the updates are some when you purchase the bike.
My dealer says slipons won't void the warranty. Changing the headpipe will.
Next time try American Custom Exhaust. Kicks all of these asses.
I may sound as a nerd but i like the stock the best.
adamsv1000 yes. Nerd.
why did you not start all of them from the same spot?
Anyone pull out the packing?
no, pulling the packing would negatively affect the performance of the mufflers.
Can y'all fix my Buell? ha
After about the third time somewhere there,I was confused to as what are we doing here?...it seemed to be repetitive as always ending up being V&H and all sounding the same 🤔🙄... When was the stock and then the slip-on's and it was always getting back to the Vance&Hines🤔🙄...which was supposed to be stock and which were slip-on's🤔🙄....Sorry but it was like you repeating again again with the same pipes,mostly the Vance&Hines....totaly learned Nothing here🤔🙄
O wait!....I came back after thinking maybe I get it now,...Its an add for Vance&Hines pipes...Yep👍😂
No, it’s not. You didn’t pay attention, did you? They compared different slip ons against one another. But they also did a comparison of each slip on muffler using the stock header pipe, and then the V&H Power Duals head pipe. What you were seeing is whatever slip on, first with the stock header, then with the V&H header. Sometimes you have to actually watch something in order to comprehend it. Tough, I know.
@@rogermurph101
Uhmmm🤔,isn't that what I had said?🤔... Yup😉
Stock!
I thought that the Amish couldn't mess with motorcycles. jk
Harley in Australia won't promote V&H as they have become a poor company to deal with. I'll never buy from them myself and will stick with Rinehart's
Don’t like V&H sound. Tab sounds best to me. Everyone has their preferences.
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If you stop it at 2:00 mins exactly, when it says "Vance and Hines Power Duals," zoom in and you can see the mufflers showing are actually Reinhart.
As in Vance and Hines Power Dual header with Rinehart slip on's. He compares each set of slip on's with the stock header pipe and then with the V&H header pipe.
All of them sound like tin cans. Now go to American Custom Exhuast and get the real slipons
sorry...fuel injected motors don't turn me on...no pipes on that pipe do...
The M8 does not sound good period no matter what pipes you put on it. Twin cam is the way to go if you want a great sound and rumble
Typical low-performance Harley owners. Only concerned with the sound._*VROOM! VROOM! drip BLAT! POP! GUDDA GUDDA GUDDA drip VROOM! BLORT! BLAT! drip VROOOM! VROOM! POP! BLAT!! drip BLORT VROOM! GUDDA GUDDA GUDDA GUDDA drip VROOM! VROOM!! BLAT POP! GUDDA GUDDA GUDDA drip VROOM! BLORT! BLAT! drip VROOOM! VROOM! POP! BLAT! drip BLORT! VROOM! GUDDA GUDDA GUDDA GUDDA drip...*_
Really? I just bought a 2020 Street glide special. That quality enough for you?
@@chrisrocker1108 I guess that depends on how loud it is, seeing as that's why people ride 'em
@@daryllect6659 I ride my 2017 Ultra Classic with stock exhaust because Harley has all the features I wanted. There is also dealer support all across the country and any kind of aftermarket part you want. That just isn't available with any other manufacturer. I wish I had as much leg room as I had on my Kawasaki or Yamaha touring bikes, but Harley beats them everywhere else hands down in my opinion. I don't ride to be loud. I ride because I enjoy riding. What do you ride?
I think it sounds ok, but I definitely think the twin cam sounds better. For performance and reliability, I'll take my M8 over the TC any day, although Harley did do a lot to rectify the TC shortcomings.
None of them really sounded Harley.
They all just sounded kind of obnoxious.