Head Movement In Golf Swing (Keep Your Head Down Or Swivel It Open?)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 23. 05. 2021
- In this video, Henry and I chat about head movement in golf swing, specifically how it moves through the hitting area amongst the game's best. We separate these styles into 2 ways. Some keep the head down (or "stay in the shot"), and others let their heads swivel open.
We'll look at a few PGA Tour and LPGA Tour golfers that exemplify both movements, including: David Duval, Annika Sorenstam, Dustin Johnson, Henrik Stenson, Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus, and Mac O'Grady. Eye dominance may play a part! So the question is, should YOU keep your head down in the golf swing or let it swivel open?
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Best video on you tube. Thank you guys for some common sense instruction. I worked with this and figured out my eyes and it makes the biggest diffrence yet. Please keep up the great videos.
Awesome, thanks for watching Kevin!
Iâm left handed and left eye dominate and I was going to ask about this exact subject on our next swing evaluation based off of a bit of research I did with eye dominance. Henry said I was moving my head like Duval and I was curious as to why and itâs because of my left eye being dominant. So glad you guys touched on this subject.
Glad you enjoyed Roger!
Excellent video, liked the eye dominance and hat brim knowledge, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching Barry.
Great information I definitely struggle with my head moment and in right eye dominant and right handed
did you ever do a "dominant eye" video?
I am right handed and right eye dominant.
What should I be doing in my golf game with this knowledge?
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Thanks so much! This is the only video we've really done discussing eye dominance I believe.
I was in a practise bay 2 away from one with Ronan Raffeerty - a well-known Irish golfer from a few years ago - who was there for a promotion. He had obviously just read the same Jack Nicklaus's book that my father had, where Jack talks about looking at the ball throughout the swing with his left eye - to stop his head coming up. But he was overdoing it badly and after address turning his head and staring in a 'manic' manner at the ball. The assistent pro with him didn't say anything but eventually I had to point it out. So he tried to stop doing it but couldn't - going from a perfect setup to looking like a madman. Made me feel better as an amateur for those times where you tell yourself to 'keep your head down', but fail miserably. Obviously even the pros suffer in the same way :-)
Wonder what would happen if Duval or Sorenstam kept their heads down.
@@MiloLinesGolf In comparison to an amatuer hitting from the top and early extending, they do keep their heads down ! :-) Just looked at Sorenstams swing and it is surprising how much it comes up and also how early she starts to look at the target, a bit like a pro cricket that stops watching that ball from even just before the bounce.
@@AndrewDCDrummond . Interesting comment about cricketers. Please elaborate as I assumed they tracked the incoming ball up until impact.
@@ulster7717 Within the last quarter of a second there is virtually no chance for the cricketer to make adjustments to where he has commited to puting he bat, so video has shown that some cricketers stop watching the ball, as 1/4 second is before the ball bounces so no chance of reating to the bounce. Some even closed their eyes on the video I saw. That video was years ago so little chance of finding it, but I found this link which might be interesting : www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3596397/. However some players report being able to see the ball when they hit it, and from experience of once (or maybe twice) being 'in the zone' when playing tennis that might be true as the tennis ball certainly seemed bigger - leading us to go 5-0 up in a game of double as I buried anything that came to me, but then I came out of the zone and we lost the set ! :-(
@@ulster7717 Also www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/when-sachin-tendulkar-batted-with-his-eyes-closed
Great video. I have a question Milo. You said in this video its bad for your head to get out in front of the ball. I recently re discovered one of your older videos where you use gears to show that your upper centre gets out ahead of your lower centre in transition then kicks backwards as the pelvis kicks forward. I have been trying this to great effect with my irons. I wonder if you could do a video where you demo and compare how the upper and lower centres move back and forward throughout the swing with driver vs iron not using gears. I sort of feel like i am getting my head ahead of the ball in transition then kicking back. Must just be a feeling as my bad move has been a tilt back and get stuck
Hmm I'd have to see, but yes we can perhaps do a video on this. Thanks for watching!
@@MiloLinesGolf Thanks Milo! Im specifically interested on how the club is kept on plane by these body moves. I feel more on top of the ball getting my centre ahead in transition. As opposed to what i have always done which is tilt back and get stuck under....
Iâve been unlucky in that Iâve been forced to go from right eye to left eye dominant (result of stroke). Pathetic depth perception! My trend has been to try swinging harder by pulling left shoulder up and swinging flatter which is over the top. Now because of your videos I am turning shoulder more on the swing plane and getting better ball flight with draw. I add every one of your vids to a playlist so I can rewatch as my memory like my swing sucks!
You have my sympathy. As a result of a stroke I went from left eye dominance to right eye. Lost my ability to juggle overnight. Played havoc with my golf. Only consolation is we are still here to talk about it. đ.
@@ulster7717 Thatâs a fact! My friend suffered a massive stroke and didnât come out of the coma! I still play golf every weekday, truly Iâm a lucky chap!
Thank you so much for sharing and keep up the good work!
You stated that you have some spine extension, and a little leftward lean. Wouldn't that be difficult for a right eye dominate person? What are the pros and cons of the spine extension? Some UTube golf gurus say don't extend, but compress into the ground lowering your head and knees during the backswing so you can extend verticallly later. However, others are like you and extend - then compress-and extend again. Can you clarify this extensions / compression? You have really great insights into the mechanics of the swing.
Can you talk about hip sway vs head movement? Basically how to allow for head movement but not start swaying
Watch our previous video on reverse pivot.
I am a believer that the head will stay in the correct position until the body release pulls it up and around IF the rest of the swing is correct. That's assuming that the head doesn't shift off the ball in the backswing.If the head is coming up early it's because you are doing something wrong elsewhere.
Agreed, sequencing-wise it should be later down the pipeline. However, sometimes getting the head to "feel" like it's moving in tandem with or ever prior to the rest of the body in a lesson can help open things up though and produce a better pivot.
Milo, does you head also back up when hitting irons? It seems to be more with the driver and the slight hitting up motion. Head backing up might lead to fat irons?
Isnt it true that in all hand to eye events you want your eyes steady? (at impact)
Hogan and Snead very much the head cock and the left eye on the ball...this also seems to mentally begin the turn and clearing for the backswing.
Thanks for providing this link.....very good video. Enjoy your presentations...hope to take an "in person" some day..
Depends where the head is coming from in the backswing. Mine for example tips slightly towards the target at the top of the swing, therefore it moves slightly more back coming into the ball.
I think my head moving ahead of the ball is a huge problem of mine. Have been working on it.
Ahead isn't usually a good thing. Opening up can be okay if on plane.
It almost looks as if they are not looking at the ball at impact. Is there something to be said on that if your swing is sequenced in such a way where you donât need to see the ball at impact and just rotate around.
Ball just gets in the way =).
Can plumbom however itâs spelled the putter like youâre reading a putt to tell which eye is dominant
There's a simple test where you look at an object in the distance and make your hands into a triangle.
The real problem is that we always want to look in the direction that we're swinging or directing our force. We do this in every other sport - we look at the target. So why do people tend to look up in golf - because they're swinging in that direction. Why do good players keep their head down? They're swinging in that direction! Good players are not swinging toward the target, they're swinging toward the ball and therefore it's easy to keep your head down. Every good player does this whether they're aware of it or not. It's how the golf club works and it's simple physics.
Thatâs an interesting observation but teachers as diverse as Shawn Clement and Manuel de la Torre tell you to swing the club at the target. I know you are an elite golfer maybe you could do a video on your channel on this and target focus. I would genuinely like to get your take on this.
@@ulster7717 I have several videos about this subject and all the problems that stem from it. It's truly amazing how simply changing your direction of force makes everything happen properly.
Milo would you say this video is an update to Milo & Malaska 7 (czcams.com/video/sv-d9pW97SY/video.html)? In that clip, you looked so uncomfortable throughout your swing when your head was being held still.