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How To Open Up The Chest Through Impact And Rotate
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 28. 03. 2021
- Some say you should have the chest facing the ball at impact, others say you should open it up, well which one is it? Let's explore!
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I have found Milo Lines to be the best insightful teacher in golf. I've learned a great deal from him. And I appreciate the time and effort that he employs to help all of us " lots to improve " fellows.
Thank you so much for the thoughtful comment!
The short time Iâve been watching your channel I have massively improved thank you guys keep them coming đ
Great to hear Marcus, thanks for watching!
I've never heard of the parallel between shoulders and club...interesting! Can't wait to try this out.
Hope it works out well for you! Thanks for watching!
Milo always have things explained wisely so we are not misunderstanding what we're trying to do. Thanks.
Thanks Kenson!
Great stuff Milo and Henry. I couldnât agree more!
Thanks Doug!
Have you been told not to get open??
đđȘ *Milo's 5 KEYS to a Rotational Golf Swing: milolinesgolf.com/5-keys-to-unlocking-a-rotational-golf-swing/
For me, and this is just me... I find that when I sequence properly and unwind the hips FIRST while keeping my upper body relatively passive, that stretch reflex kicks in and like was said in the video, the hips PULL the upper body around to impact - which of course we're evolved to do bio-mechanically. In other words, with proper sequencing from ground up, I don't have to even TRY to open my torso/shoulders/whatever, it just happens automatically. In fact, when I actually TRY to rotate my torso independently, I get out of sequence and hit poor shots.
This is another exceptional breakdown of the why/how of the golf swing - love it!
Awesome Troy, thanks for sharing and watching!
thnx for the info, i've been working on trying to use the body more and get open and it is helping me.
Great to hear! Thanks for watching, Steve!
This is the keyâŠcreating that stretchâŠthanks Milo!
One of my favorite videos we have produced, thanks for watching!
I was very fortunate that I met an old school pro 30 years ago. Who told me body will feel like it is focused towards the target for the motion . And the arms counter that by slotting like throwing the ball side arm. That resistance he showed me back than always made me slot the club naturally. And had had a huge baseball background like you milo . Itâs so much easier to do this naturally than forcing it
I think I have been mislead in the past about turning hips and trying to keep shoulder in check towards impact. This is good teaching. I sometimes have a hard time thinking about chest movement. For me it is easier to imagine my right upper arm attached to side of chest rotating all the way through .
Trail arm/wrist and sternum around with lead hip back out of the way is a great feel!
The way he explains technique is absolutely astonishing. So thoughtful towards the game improvement players. Iâm thinking about the yearly membership. I wonder if the person who responds is going to be Milo or one of his instructors???
The person that responds will be me the first time and then alternating back-and-forth between myself and my assistant.
@@MiloLinesGolf I joined Milo's academy after a 10 year hiatus from golf. I'm sure glad I did, Milo and team are awesome.
Wow loving your info, great stuff thanks
Glad you enjoyed it Roger!
You guys continue to bring great content, which I forget to implement on a regular basis. Iâm consistantly the shortest hitter but the straightest, man I would give up the middle of the fairway for 40 yards or so.
If the form is sound, than grow the sound đ
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I too suffer from this same issue. Good swing stays on plane but lacks distance and power. My coach has me working on getting a stiff left leg and chest turning to the sky. I find this very difficult to achieve
Such good content!!
Thank you!
Milo I've also noticed you have very good head rotation through impact. Do you try to do this and do you find this helps your overall rotation? Are you focusing on the ball with both eyes, or do you see it through your peripheral vision in your right eye?? Either way I think a video on head rotation and what the eyes are doing would be beneficial. I haven't seen anything good on CZcams that explains this. Keep up the good work much appreciated and when I'm down in Arizona I'll swing by for a lesson.
Excellent observation Chris and I'll definitely get a video together on this! Some great players have had their head open up through impact. Sorenstam, Stenson, Duval, DJ to name a few. It can definitely help some.
That explains it very well.
Thanks Steven!
Hi guys, started adopting your swing pattern and damn its hard but going to persist, at the moment I'm hitting 2 out of 10 balls well, not going to give up because when I do strike those 2 balls feels effortless and they go straight as a bullet . . .
Keep grinding and implementing the movements slowly! Check out our website as well if you'd like further help. milolinesgolf.com
Hi Milo, I thought you could help me with one question. It is about after impact. Namely, I try yo use my body to swing through. My question is related particularly to head but also to my upperbody. I know that at impact the head in general stays above the ball. Immediatley after impact and up to 3 o clock does the head go forward towards the target or stays behind to some extent where it is. Thank you so much.
Unwinding starts from the ground, uo through the knees, pelvis and lastly the chest, drawing the free hinging lagging shoulders and controlled arm structure to inertial unstoppable release....
yes, check out my vids on sequencing...thanks for watching Alexander!
Milo,
This is a little late since you published this video, but I do have a comment. I was a high school quarter back and I lettered in tennis in college(I went to an engineering school that had no football team). As a result I know a few thing about the chest arm relationship you discuss in the video. From what I learned, it is not so important to focus on the relationship of the hands to the arms as it is to focus on the fact that the chest and upper torso , with all their muscle mass, are literally pulling the arms in the downswing, adding speed and power. Of course, at some point the arms will be "flung" off the chest and away from the upper torso by the forces being imposed by this rotational action. That is why when I throw a football or swing a tennis racket, my chest always leads, because it is pulling my right arm and causing it to speed up considerably. That is why I think your viewers should be less concerned about relative positions of the chest and arms and more concerned that the chest and torso should be rotating to pull the arms until they are literally flung away from the chest and away from the upper torso.
Well said...here is another video on this topic: czcams.com/video/k-ZAskmYGJI/video.html
Ive worked hard on chest rotation in the past,But now ive managed to load/ignite my Lats (Right on backswing,left through the ball) is my prefered method to achieve this.
Looking down the line, if you draw a line on the shaft plane at impact and a line on the shoulder tilt when the club reaches just past waist high in the follow through, the lines will be near parallel! The club is a bit ahead of the shoulders so they don't "match" at impact but they are turning on parallel planes.
Milo, what are your handsâ role in this drill? To just stay passive and let the body do the work to move the club? Or are you actively using them in the release to create club speed?
Passive. Thanks Bradley!
Thanks for the video. My question is how are you shaping shots? The problem I have with the very "body" oriented thinking is I lose track of how to work the ball. Is this feel/thought process strictly for encouraging a quicker club speed?
I work shots by altering the setup which changes the path to face relationships. The motion I teach makes for as stable a club face as possible with lots of speed
Thanks for the video, but I must have missed the drill for that.
some good thoughts there, it seems for me when i'm hitting my best shots it's like i feel the body rotation leading the way and powering and guiding the action and ball direction, maybe like i'm syncing up the chest rotation with the club face.
Absolutely Steve!
@@MiloLinesGolf milo, do you push off your right foot?
Thats the way to do it!
Thanks Chris!
When do you feel your release ? it seems like on the downswing your square up clubface on the way down and hold thru impact is that your feel?
The release is more a byproduct. The shallowing of the club coupled with wrist extension and forearm supination helps close the face early as opposed to having to do it late.
Great lesson Milo!
Thanks for watching, this was one of my favorites!
@@MiloLinesGolf what is insane (and I know my phone is watching me) is that I was working on opening up my chest last night. And then this video pops up.
Technology or law of attraction đ
Any videos on keeps the arms straight or extended in the back swing to get width
Will do another video soon, but here is an older one czcams.com/video/F4cUSSKG1UI/video.html.
Excelent.
Thank you!
Milo...serious question
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but your release is a Dustin Johnson type hold off release, with the chest parallel to the shaft into impact....and your head is turned to be looking past the ball, quite a bit.
Question: Are you right eye dominant? It seems if the turn into the ball you suggest is accomplished, the right eye dominant player will still have his "eye on the ball", but the left eye dominant players dominant eye will be out of position..well off the ball, almost looking to the sky. Valid point? And if so, your move becomes a real difficulty for a left eye (lead side eye) player.
Would enjoy your comments or a vid on this. Thanks for all the great input.
There is a video already uploaded scheduled to be released soon on this very topic đ
Hi Milo, really great demonstrations. How about if I start my downswing with my chest all the way to the opening it at impact and after ? When I do this motion with chest, I eliminate this raising up etc...I really would like to hear your opinion....Thank you so much...
I donât understand your question
I am trying to use for my downswing initiation my chest (and not my hips) and try to rotate it through the ball so that I have more rotation. I feel like chest rotates my body more than just my hips. What are your thoughts? Thank you.
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Thank you!
Iâm going golfing for the first time tomorrow. Iâm trying to learn as much as I can. I would like to at least be able to hit the ball straight.
Hit one good shot and you'll be hooked!
Milo, I have this exact problem and I'm not sure how to fix it... I'm trying many things, but when I go back to the ball I'm still hitting with both of my hands right in front of me... Do you have other videos about this or that may help with this ?
We have a whole series on CZcams about the pivot but if you want more personal life coaching join Milolinesgolf.com where we can walk you through the drills that you need to make these changes
Being open at impact and square at address should we either have a strong grip or grip the club about 45deg closed at address so we have a square club face at impact. Otherwise weâll slice the ball.
To get into this position are you thinking leave the arms up as the body turns?
Up and back, yes. Take a look at my other videos as well. Thanks!
@@MiloLinesGolf Thanks.
I can open my chest and hips up quite a bit in downswing, but I find that if it's my swing thought then it starts opening up way too early/fast in DS and gets way ahead of my arms and the club (feel sorta stuck and disconnected).
Would have to see, but would guess your arm structure does not align with the rotation or the sequence gets off. Thanks for watching!
@@MiloLinesGolf Sounds about right. My trail elbow does tend to get away from my body too much at top of backswing (but my arm is on the shoulder plane, and I don't suck the club inside on takeaway).
At the impact position. The shoulder should square or open ?
They will appear fairly square given the left shoulders positioning with the left hand on the club, but when measured on 3d they are open slightly amongst the best players.
@@MiloLinesGolf thanks a lot Milo.
This approach seems relatable to me. Where are you located?
Mesa AZ
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Any drills for this?
Go to my instagram and youâll find many or if youâd like more personalized help join milolinesgolf.com and weâll walk you through a few
But, what direction are you trying to hit a golf ball vs baseball?
How about repeatable solid contact? Setup is square. The more open at impact, the more side bend needed to get to the ball. Variable side bend means unpredictable tops and fat shots. How do you maintain a consistent measurement to the ball from setup to open impact?
Front bend is converted to side bend so your inclination stays relatively constant. This pattern significantly easier to time than throwing the club down at the ball
@@MiloLinesGolf Thanks Milo! Iâll work on it. Thanks for your teaching videos. đ
most that I have seen, even in Milo's vids, is his chest is open but not as much as some people may get the idea of. Definitely open though. look at 0:14....
The shoulders appear fairly square which makes the chest look less open than it actually is. According to gears my chest is 48* open with 7 iron and more than 50* open with driver
Love your swing Milo, but canât understand how you can see more of your glove strap at impact that you do at address. If it was me the face would be wide open, what donât I get?
My left hand is slightly on the stronger side and I get the face is a strong position during my swing. Thanks!
very instructive-but not sure about the biological distinction being made at one point about shoulders not being as open as the chest. The arm in its shoulder socket is one thing, but I do not see my shoulder being distinct or separate from my chest as the golfer turns through the forward swing.
The shoulder blades glide in the golf swing an example on gears my chest turns 80* in the backswing and my shoulders to about 95*
So what's the drill?
I would refer to the impact drill video we recently posted for a drill to go along with this: czcams.com/video/gMXi1Ajjyiw/video.html
If one can't have the club fall inside then this move is complete death, hence the reason most don't do it. If you rotate to early the club goes outside the line and you're screwed. You guys feel the club release naturally in the downswing but I would guarantee most people trying to do this are choking that grip and the club will not release. Theoretically I love what Milo teaches, Gankas etc but there are niuances to the feeling that just don't get covered and I don't see any recreational golfers achieving it.
Yes Adrian, as we talk about in other videos as well. Thanks for sharing!
Seems like this would not work for those who just can't get their hips moving first to initiate the downswing....like me.
Sequencing needed, yes. Thanks Brad.
If your chest doesnât open youâll quickly run out of right arm trying to get back to the ball. If your idea is the shoulders should be closed or âsquareâ at impact you need to understand the chest is open and pay special attention to what he says about the appearance of the shoulders being square because of their independent movement. Heâs also right about the club doing weird things, especially shanking. Ask me how I know :) All new players should see this video early on. Itâll solve a lot of problems before they start. Open the chest ;)
Thanks for watching!
SO, I'm just guessing here....you dont like, "keep your back to the target"./s
Casting then is a result, indirectly, of the chest stopping its rotation. If the chest rotates to open, properly and at the proper instant, it promotes the lag everyone seeks...
a ha!
You got it!
Although many similarities, the golf swing is not the baseball swing.
Watch my recent baseball swing video, I make that clear, although there are numerous similarities. Thanks Sean.
Miloâs kinda like Happy Gilmore! Like when happy won his first tournament and wanted to replace the golf guy to a hockey guy, Milo would want a batter on top of his trophy đ
yep
What a lot dont get is the difference between swinging an axe to chop a log and chopping into a tree.
i like the video. But i am missing the real movement with hitting the ball. You explain it with words. I like more real time hitting it.
Here we go with never ending arguments over two degrees or 10 degrees wasting so much time and money over things that are always going to be different in peoples swings. the on ly thing that really counts are the hands and release at impact. Look at the tour with 50 different ways to swing the club if you count small variances in the swing. No one would ever pick Jim Furyk but he's a world class player. No one can swing like John Rohm or Rory.
Youâre correct but how our bodies move can make good impact much easier to consistently achieve! instagram.com/reel/Covozopje-j/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
1:58 "the shoulders are aways going to appear square at impact."
followed by a correction "they're going to appear square-ish."
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Haha that's a touchy subject for many.