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Awesome tutorial. Thanks!! Here's some stuff I've learned servicing these machines. I use alcohol to clean with. I use the longer wood handle q-tips to get in deeper to the machine. I use dry graphite lube, so it doesn't get gooked up with tobacco dust. If you hit the power button (power off) after activating the machine, it will stop the spoon while extended. Makes it easier to get all those slides and gears lubed/cleaned. I use the round brush that comes with it to clean the spoon/tube with. I use my tray to clean the machine on, because sure as shooting, somethings gonna fall out and hit the floor. (a screw usually) that way it stays on my tray and not in the carpet. The "gate" is actually a "knife", it cuts the tobacco to close off the tube before pushing. I clean that edge too, because it gets tarred up with tobacco. I figure the warranty is over at 20k smokes, so I service it at about every 25-30k. I "process" (cut) my tobacco in an old 2 blade vegetable chopper. I roll for four family members, so I'm up to about 18 cartons a month. That neo magnet on the screwdriver is a key element. Saves a ton of headaches. Anyways, this is the best english speaking tutorial I've seen on maintaining these machines. Thanks again. Now I'm off to check out your other vids too.
friend, anti-seize contains powered metal and is a poor general lubricant. it's primarily used on bolt threads in very high heat applications; for example, exhaust manifold bolts. bolt threads are very commonly deformed by very high heat, especially high heat/cooling cycles. they also oxidize quickly in high heat. the powdered metal in anti-seize is a gap-filler and also will not oxidize coherently with iron oxide. (different "rusts" won't bond.) the lubricant in anti-seize holds the powdered metal and makes the threaded bolt easier to remove. industries with high-heat application machinery use it by the gallon.
WOW!!--that was nice of you to share this!!--I have mine for about a month now and love it--I love it so much I just got another one in case the first one blows the hell up!!--lol--but I will do like you did after I hit 20-25 thousand cigs--I do have some advice for you--I buy my tubes and tobacco online--there are many places and much cheaper than your paying----I ordered a 5lb bag of ohm Turkish yellow tobacco wish is comparable to a marlbaro light to medium and pay $55.00 a 5 pound bag--and $4 is to much for a carton of tubes!!--you can get 4aces tubes which are great for 1.99 per carton--but I did a little more digging and reviewing of classic tubes--and there awesome also trust me I'm not no cheap-ass!!--lol--you can get them for $8.49 for a 5 pack!!--that like a $1.70 a carton!!!-ok just thought I return the favor--you be good--later
Thanks for the foray into the 'Matic 3. I must be rough on my machine. I'm only over 6k on cigs made and I'm now getting constant jams. So I'll have to pop it apart and get groovy inside it.
thank you. Mine had to screw's as well that did not want to come out but did what you did and works perfect. I use a mixer to shread, my tobacco plus use OHM so much better than Kentucky plus Ohm tubes. But thank you so much for the video you rock. My machine is at 46,567 going strong.
I have owned mine for the past three years. I have reset the lifetime counter on it once before but I can’t remember how the regular counter of course is obvious and easy to do. I keep it well-maintained instead of using the brush to clean it out I use my vacuum hose, cleans it out very well. I also shred my tobacco before I put it in so it’s faster. I conquered putting tubes on the machine in the dark. That’s how used to it I am I wouldn’t own another one for the rest of my life. Thank you for the wonderful video. Poof!
@amazonwoman Thanks for the comment. I WISH I had found this machine sooner. I have started using a vege processor to shred my tobacco. This is much faster and safer than chopping with ✂️. I hope you subscribed!
Definitely a subscriber 👍😎 I’ve been an avid smoker since I was 14 and will be 53 soon. Menthol tobacco makes you immortal 😜 hehe K I’m weird but I also disassemble everything I have owned . That’s why I’m the best female wrench from the west and east coast and currently Indiana and Illinois hotrod and monster truck female 🔧. Sorry for the rant I got off subject. I do that at my age but I’m proud of me. I finally made it somewhere in life again it’s hard doing it on your own all the time and you start falling apart but you just Gotta keep being a warrior. Have a wonderful weekend, and I am greatly appreciated for the reply. 💨 POOF!
A pound of shredded tobacco costs me $13-$15. Two boxes of tubes cost me $8 unless on sale. On sale, they are $2+, some change for 200-250 tubes. Me and my wife went through two cartons a week minimum, but our average weekly was around $250. We now only spend around $23-$46 a week, depending on if I'm making more for future use. 😂
I used this video as a dry run to clean up my machine. Everything went smoothly and the powermatic 3+ is rolling great cigs again. I buy whole leaf tobacco on the internet and shred it with the Powermatic S (the best... in my opinion). The leaf costs about $14/# but I dont have to sift through the packaged tobacco to pull out the hard stuff that might make a bad cig. But then again... I spend extra time getting the whole leaf ready to shred..... 6 of this ...1/2 dozen of that!!!
according to the manufacturer, all you need to do is spray air through the hopper and use WD40 on the spoon area. This can be done without taking it apart.
If you remove the 4 screws on the bottom and the 2 screws to the left of the display you can open it for more access. You may have to unplug the ribbon cable from the top to get it fully accessible but its easy to get in and out.
Thank you so much for this video! My machine was running just fine, as a matter fact, I’ve made over 35,000 cigarettes and thought I might just give it a little maintenance. After using my air compressor on a low setting, my machine started making weird noises and the hopper light kept coming on I was pretty nervous about getting into the machine, but you gave me confidence. Great job on the packing tape idea. Also, when I noticed how much tobacco came out of your machine, I figured my air compressor just packed tobacco in places it shouldn’t be, and that’s why I’m having issues. Thank you for the confidence and can’t wait to get into my machine tomorrow. God bless.
I just recently purchased my 2nd Powermatic III+. The 1st one was purchased back in 12/2019. She lasted a GOOD year & 1/2, before she broke. NOT complaining! With the 2nd one I just purchased (2 days ago), I decided to also add a 4-year warranty for it (from Asurion) -- which only cost $31.98. (I didn't have the option to add a warranty on the 1st one, and that 1st one's ALREADY been PAST it's manufacturer's warranty.) STILL, I'm DEFINITELY going to watch your video -- as it may give me some helpful info; thanks!
@@scrappypappymauldin5416 Hi. I had 'er stored away in a closet. I pulled 'er out now & found a plug that works for it (as I can't find the original plug/adapter for it). It STILL turns on, too! The counter shows 14,304. ( The black area of the machine, on the bottom, separated from the rest of it -- leaving a wide, open gap. I can't get it back together. Offhand, I don't remember what happened to cause that. Perhaps someday, I could STILL have it repaired [if it doesn't cost TOO much]. After all, I DEFINITELY wouldn't mind having a BACKUP machine! 😉)
1200pmi took mine apart and found2screws rolling around in the bottom they belonged to the spoon but you can't get to it to put them back,so I took the screws off of the start an counter which is over the spoon but there's 2 screws I can't to?they are angled as such any ideas it's a tight spot!!
I figure if it's broken I have to replace it...but I'll try and fix it... worse thing...I still have to replace it. I don't have one but I would not hesitate to disassemble
Thank you for the video. It was great and has given me confidence to clean my own machine. I have had it about 5 years and so far have rolled 35,257 cigs! I was almost ready to buy another machine in case this one broke, but after reading all the comments (which were very informative) and watching your video, I'm going to hold off buying another one. QUESTION: where can I get replacements for the little silicone tube that holds the cigarette tube in place? Yesterday mine split in half and keeps falling off. For now I'm going to try to fix it with some Teflon tape. I'm not sure that will work but it might keep it going until I can find those little replacement silicone tubes. I appreciate any help you can give me. And once again thank you for the video
You should probably bring your broken piece with you to your local hardware store and match it up. Buy a large piece and cut to size and you'll always have extra for your future breaks. Keep it with your machine or you won't find it when you need it 😅😅😅
Thank you for watching. I think that silicone tube could be replaced with a small rubber band. Like those used by dentists for braces. Other options that come to mind are: plastic oxygen tubing, surgical tubing, or the rubber from a wire insulation on a SO electrical wire (Home Depot) #8 - 3. Hope this was helpful
@@scrappypappymauldin5416 THANK YOU! I really appreciate all your help. With all those ideas there should be at least one that will work good maybe more
That's the kind of tobacco I use. Every state doesn't have it. Alabama dosen't , Florida did and Michigan did. I don't think Virigina doesn't I don't think. But that's the stuff
I know it usually makes perfect sense for the squeaky wheel to need some grease/oil, but not so sure about this. I saw you wiped most of the excess off, but I hope that all the dust doesn't cling to what you couldn't get off and turns to sludge for the next cleaning/maintenance. Not sure how well it would hold up to spraying electronic parts cleaner next time, lol. Worst case scenario, that machine made you money in a month's time if it's fubar next service.
I have taken mine apart,but I ordered my second one before I began. No need to pull the shorty screws on the bottom center. Don’t touch the circuit boards. Don’t lose the two buttons contacts when you are taking it apart. They are little insulator pads with a small metallic contact. Keeping our smoking purchases should stay a secret,, unless you want a democrat figuring they want their cut. Please edit out the math, the tax stuff before a democrat watches this video.
Brian, Gotta be a bad power switch or power cord. Easy enough to check continuity on both with a multimeter. If those both check good, I would follow the hot lead off the switch to the PC board and make sure there isn't a cold solder joint where it attaches. Thanks for the question and watching the channel.
@@scrappypappymauldin5416 I tried switching the power cord already a couple days ago, but for some reason testing the power switch never once popped into my mind. Gonna have to give that one a whirl after work tomorrow. Thank you for the helpful information sir.
I have the same machine and it broke after 3 weeks, it keeps showing me the word Jam even though I cleaned it very well, I don't know what to do with it, please help me!
@ronson570 0 seconds ago It will only jam if the tobacco is to dry or damp, I use a spray bottle to moisten it is to dry , it only takes a little. Hope this helps. Reply
@@ronson570 it doesn't have any kind of tobacco in it and yet it won't start, it keeps showing me the word JAM, the problem is that I opened it, so I also lost the warranty
@@sebi4457 Oh I see , If you have not already open it up and make sure all the ribbon wire connectors are plugged in making contact and the lid micro switch is working as you know the hopper lid must be closed to operate . hope this helps.
Id love to hear your reasoning for this comment….. I’m saying Why not? I’m OSP/ISP communication engineer, I’ve taken mine apart several times to clean and it works great, if people don’t learn how to work on things they get thrown away, and that’s a huge problem in the world today… I fix everything I own myself, if i can’t fix it i don’t own it… and I’m 100% self taught Mechanical tech and ASE certified (automotive)
The video I've been seeking for months.
Glad you made it and thanks subscribing!
Awesome tutorial. Thanks!! Here's some stuff I've learned servicing these machines. I use alcohol to clean with. I use the longer wood handle q-tips to get in deeper to the machine. I use dry graphite lube, so it doesn't get gooked up with tobacco dust. If you hit the power button (power off) after activating the machine, it will stop the spoon while extended. Makes it easier to get all those slides and gears lubed/cleaned. I use the round brush that comes with it to clean the spoon/tube with. I use my tray to clean the machine on, because sure as shooting, somethings gonna fall out and hit the floor. (a screw usually) that way it stays on my tray and not in the carpet. The "gate" is actually a "knife", it cuts the tobacco to close off the tube before pushing. I clean that edge too, because it gets tarred up with tobacco. I figure the warranty is over at 20k smokes, so I service it at about every 25-30k. I "process" (cut) my tobacco in an old 2 blade vegetable chopper. I roll for four family members, so I'm up to about 18 cartons a month. That neo magnet on the screwdriver is a key element. Saves a ton of headaches. Anyways, this is the best english speaking tutorial I've seen on maintaining these machines. Thanks again. Now I'm off to check out your other vids too.
I'm using mine for more than 3 years now without a problem, but I have to clean it. Thanks for the video Sir
Glad to help!
Thanks for the info, Scrappy..... It will help me alot when I do the same thing.... THANKS
Thank you now I can clean my original Powermatic III. I love mine.
friend, anti-seize contains powered metal and is a poor general lubricant.
it's primarily used on bolt threads in very high heat applications; for example, exhaust manifold bolts.
bolt threads are very commonly deformed by very high heat, especially high heat/cooling cycles. they also oxidize quickly in high heat.
the powdered metal in anti-seize is a gap-filler and also will not oxidize coherently with iron oxide. (different "rusts" won't bond.)
the lubricant in anti-seize holds the powdered metal and makes the threaded bolt easier to remove.
industries with high-heat application machinery use it by the gallon.
WOW!!--that was nice of you to share this!!--I have mine for about a month now and love it--I love it so much I just got another one in case the first one blows the hell up!!--lol--but I will do like you did after I hit 20-25 thousand cigs--I do have some advice for you--I buy my tubes and tobacco online--there are many places and much cheaper than your paying----I ordered a 5lb bag of ohm Turkish yellow tobacco wish is comparable to a marlbaro light to medium and pay $55.00 a 5 pound bag--and $4 is to much for a carton of tubes!!--you can get 4aces tubes which are great for 1.99 per carton--but I did a little more digging and reviewing of classic tubes--and there awesome also trust me I'm not no cheap-ass!!--lol--you can get them for $8.49 for a 5 pack!!--that like a $1.70 a carton!!!-ok just thought I return the favor--you be good--later
Thanks for the kudos Philip!
Where are you getting your 5lb bags from?
Thanks for the foray into the 'Matic 3. I must be rough on my machine. I'm only over 6k on cigs made and I'm now getting constant jams. So I'll have to pop it apart and get groovy inside it.
One big thank you for your video.
I just fixed Powermatic 3 following your steps.
You are the KING
Fantastic!
thank you. Mine had to screw's as well that did not want to come out but did what you did and works perfect. I use a mixer to shread, my tobacco plus use OHM so much better than Kentucky plus Ohm tubes. But thank you so much for the video you rock. My machine is at 46,567 going strong.
Thanks for watching and for the comment. I still hand sift but chop with a mixer.
I have owned mine for the past three years. I have reset the lifetime counter on it once before but I can’t remember how the regular counter of course is obvious and easy to do. I keep it well-maintained instead of using the brush to clean it out I use my vacuum hose, cleans it out very well. I also shred my tobacco before I put it in so it’s faster. I conquered putting tubes on the machine in the dark. That’s how used to it I am I wouldn’t own another one for the rest of my life. Thank you for the wonderful video. Poof!
@amazonwoman
Thanks for the comment. I WISH I had found this machine sooner. I have started using a vege processor to shred my tobacco. This is much faster and safer than chopping with ✂️.
I hope you subscribed!
Definitely a subscriber 👍😎 I’ve been an avid smoker since I was 14 and will be 53 soon. Menthol tobacco makes you immortal 😜 hehe K I’m weird but I also disassemble everything I have owned . That’s why I’m the best female wrench from the west and east coast and currently Indiana and Illinois hotrod and monster truck female 🔧. Sorry for the rant I got off subject. I do that at my age but I’m proud of me. I finally made it somewhere in life again it’s hard doing it on your own all the time and you start falling apart but you just Gotta keep being a warrior. Have a wonderful weekend, and I am greatly appreciated for the reply. 💨 POOF!
Thank you for making this video. It's so helpful.
Glad to help.
A pound of shredded tobacco costs me $13-$15. Two boxes of tubes cost me $8 unless on sale. On sale, they are $2+, some change for 200-250 tubes.
Me and my wife went through two cartons a week minimum, but our average weekly was around $250. We now only spend around $23-$46 a week, depending on if I'm making more for future use. 😂
I used this video as a dry run to clean up my machine. Everything went smoothly and the powermatic 3+ is rolling great cigs again. I buy whole leaf tobacco on the internet and shred it with the Powermatic S (the best... in my opinion). The leaf costs about $14/# but I dont have to sift through the packaged tobacco to pull out the hard stuff that might make a bad cig. But then again... I spend extra time getting the whole leaf ready to shred..... 6 of this ...1/2 dozen of that!!!
Glad it helped!
according to the manufacturer, all you need to do is spray air through the hopper and use WD40 on the spoon area. This can be done without taking it apart.
If you remove the 4 screws on the bottom and the 2 screws to the left of the display you can open it for more access. You may have to unplug the ribbon cable from the top to get it fully accessible but its easy to get in and out.
Thank you so much for this video! My machine was running just fine, as a matter fact, I’ve made over 35,000 cigarettes and thought I might just give it a little maintenance. After using my air compressor on a low setting, my machine started making weird noises and the hopper light kept coming on
I was pretty nervous about getting into the machine, but you gave me confidence. Great job on the packing tape idea. Also, when I noticed how much tobacco came out of your machine, I figured my air compressor just packed tobacco in places it shouldn’t be, and that’s why I’m having issues.
Thank you for the confidence and can’t wait to get into my machine tomorrow. God bless.
Thank you for watching, and let me know how it turns out for you.
Great video, I appreciate you sharing it. I felt sure that little piece had fell into the world of the 10mm socket.
thank you got mine running smoothly again. openened it up for the first time with the counter at 31000, was pretty full of tobacco inside lol
Glad I could help!
I just recently purchased my 2nd Powermatic III+. The 1st one was purchased back in 12/2019. She lasted a GOOD year & 1/2, before she broke. NOT complaining! With the 2nd one I just purchased (2 days ago), I decided to also add a 4-year warranty for it (from Asurion) -- which only cost $31.98. (I didn't have the option to add a warranty on the 1st one, and that 1st one's ALREADY been PAST it's manufacturer's warranty.) STILL, I'm DEFINITELY going to watch your video -- as it may give me some helpful info; thanks!
Thanks for watching!
How many cigarettes did you get out of your last machine?
@@scrappypappymauldin5416 Hi. I had 'er stored away in a closet. I pulled 'er out now & found a plug that works for it (as I can't find the original plug/adapter for it). It STILL turns on, too! The counter shows 14,304.
( The black area of the machine, on the bottom, separated from the rest of it -- leaving a wide, open gap. I can't get it back together. Offhand, I don't remember what happened to cause that. Perhaps someday, I could STILL have it repaired [if it doesn't cost TOO much]. After all, I DEFINITELY wouldn't mind having a BACKUP machine! 😉)
You should never use power tools on unknown screws in plastic. Maybe after you know what hardware was used.
they do that the one i have is my second one the version i have now is jam proof
1200pmi took mine apart and found2screws rolling around in the bottom they belonged to the spoon but you can't get to it to put them back,so I took the screws off of the start an counter which is over the spoon but there's 2 screws I can't to?they are angled as such any ideas it's a tight spot!!
Back lash in gears there should be an adjustment screw I suspect it's next to the motor shaft? Without blueprints hard to say. Thanks for your video.
Thanks. I will check that out.
No worries that grease or oil might make it from the slider/spoon mechanism to the tobacco ?
I figure if it's broken I have to replace it...but I'll try and fix it... worse thing...I still have to replace it. I don't have one but I would not hesitate to disassemble
Thank you for the video. It was great and has given me confidence to clean my own machine. I have had it about 5 years and so far have rolled 35,257 cigs! I was almost ready to buy another machine in case this one broke, but after reading all the comments (which were very informative) and watching your video, I'm going to hold off buying another one.
QUESTION: where can I get replacements for the little silicone tube that holds the cigarette tube in place?
Yesterday mine split in half and keeps falling off. For now I'm going to try to fix it with some Teflon tape. I'm not sure that will work but it might keep it going until I can find those little replacement silicone tubes.
I appreciate any help you can give me. And once again thank you for the video
You should probably bring your broken piece with you to your local hardware store and match it up. Buy a large piece and cut to size and you'll always have extra for your future breaks. Keep it with your machine or you won't find it when you need it 😅😅😅
@@bevjs Thank you!
Thank you for watching.
I think that silicone tube could be replaced with a small rubber band. Like those used by dentists for braces. Other options that come to mind are: plastic oxygen tubing, surgical tubing, or the rubber from a wire insulation on a SO electrical wire (Home Depot) #8 - 3. Hope this was helpful
@@scrappypappymauldin5416 THANK YOU! I really appreciate all your help. With all those ideas there should be at least one that will work good maybe more
That's the kind of tobacco I use. Every state doesn't have it. Alabama dosen't , Florida did and Michigan did. I don't think Virigina doesn't I don't think. But that's the stuff
thx for this video I get 5lbs of that kentucky select, transfer into ziplock bags
Thanks for watching sir!
I also use the 5 lbs of Kentucky select , went to Walmart and bought a plastic storage bin with lid works great and just big enough.
in addition the machine does not run if the door is open
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adding grease and oil i don't think is a good idea. now all that tobacco is gonna cake up. better to just clean all that dust out.
I get cha, but I cleaned off the extra, except for the main slide. We shall see if that was a good decision or not!
I know it usually makes perfect sense for the squeaky wheel to need some grease/oil, but not so sure about this. I saw you wiped most of the excess off, but I hope that all the dust doesn't cling to what you couldn't get off and turns to sludge for the next cleaning/maintenance. Not sure how well it would hold up to spraying electronic parts cleaner next time, lol. Worst case scenario, that machine made you money in a month's time if it's fubar next service.
Great point!
I have taken mine apart,but I ordered my second one before I began. No need to pull the shorty screws on the bottom center. Don’t touch the circuit boards. Don’t lose the two buttons contacts when you are taking it apart. They are little insulator pads with a small metallic contact. Keeping our smoking purchases should stay a secret,, unless you want a democrat figuring they want their cut. Please edit out the math, the tax stuff before a democrat watches this video.
I have the powermatic 4. My cigs cost $10.00 a carton or $1.00 a pack. If i didnt roll my own my wife and i would never be able to afford to smoke.
I'm only like 4 carton in on mine and it as well stated squeaking did it go away after some maintenance let me know thanks
Yep, the squeaking went away after the maintenance I did. The tobacco gate closing has a close clearance. Lubing it's pivot points was key for me.
если при чистке шахты во время хода поршня еще раз нажать кнопку "старт", то поршень остановится до следующего нажатия этой кнопки.
What are the size of the Silver screws
They appear to me to be a #8 × 1/2 inch.
not fully jam proof
It will only jam if the tobacco is to dry or damp, I use a spray bottle to moisten it is to dry , it only takes a little. Hope this helps.
I pay $0.63 a pack same setup.
Nice!
Slap Happy Pappy!
Any suggestions why my Powermatic 3 would just stop powering on?
Brian,
Gotta be a bad power switch or power cord. Easy enough to check continuity on both with a multimeter. If those both check good, I would follow the hot lead off the switch to the PC board and make sure there isn't a cold solder joint where it attaches.
Thanks for the question and watching the channel.
@@scrappypappymauldin5416
I tried switching the power cord already a couple days ago, but for some reason testing the power switch never once popped into my mind. Gonna have to give that one a whirl after work tomorrow.
Thank you for the helpful information sir.
Thought you might want to know, the knock offs are made in china. The originals are made in USA. cheers
You thought you had a lot of tobacco stuck in the gears this time. Wait until you take it apart next time with all the oil and grease you used. Lol
Great point!
I have the same machine and it broke after 3 weeks, it keeps showing me the word Jam even though I cleaned it very well, I don't know what to do with it, please help me!
@ronson570
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It will only jam if the tobacco is to dry or damp, I use a spray bottle to moisten it is to dry , it only takes a little. Hope this helps.
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@@ronson570 it doesn't have any kind of tobacco in it and yet it won't start, it keeps showing me the word JAM, the problem is that I opened it, so I also lost the warranty
@@sebi4457 Oh I see , If you have not already open it up and make sure all the ribbon wire connectors are plugged in making contact and the lid micro switch is working as you know the hopper lid must be closed to operate . hope this helps.
Mine lost 2 screws that belong to the spoon im trying to get to the motor but 2 screws are at an angle a screw driver cant unscrew it
U should not be opening this machine at all!
Id love to hear your reasoning for this comment…..
I’m saying Why not? I’m OSP/ISP communication engineer, I’ve taken mine apart several times to clean and it works great, if people don’t learn how to work on things they get thrown away, and that’s a huge problem in the world today… I fix everything I own myself, if i can’t fix it i don’t own it… and I’m 100% self taught Mechanical tech and ASE certified (automotive)