Testing Every Relevant Weapon for Boss DPS in The Final Shape (Still Hunt, Euphony, Microcosm)

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
  • This one's a long one, but there's been a lot of changes over this patch that I've had to cover. Sit back, relax, and enjoy me going over every potentially relevant DPS weapon in The Final Shape.
    DPS spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
    Destiny Data Compendium (perk screenshots): docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
    Projects folder: drive.google.com/drive/folder...
    Twitch: / theaegisrelic
    Twitter: / theaegisrelic
    Speedrun server: / discord
    Personal server: / discord
    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    01:51 Supplemental damage intro
    02:36 Witherhoard vs. Lost Signal
    03:30 Anarchy vs. Dragon's Breath
    04:03 The decline of swap specials
    06:04 Lucky Pants hand cannon hierarchy
    06:29 Exotic primary ranking
    07:10 Outbreak nanite scaling and comparisons
    08:05 Rockets vs. GLs
    09:33 Still Hunt analysis
    10:40 Dragon's Breath analysis
    11:30 Legend of Acrius analysis
    11:59 Leviathan's Breath analysis
    12:25 Whisper of the Worm analysis
    12:52 One Thousand Voices analysis
    13:14 Cloudstrike analysis
    14:02 Microcosm analysis
    15:00 Sleeper Simulant and Thunderlord analysis
    15:23 Two-Tailed Fox with Facet of Command analysis
    16:07 Pack Hunter with Relentless Strikes
    18:00 Sword DPS ranking
    19:18 Swords vs. other heavies
    19:57 Pack Hunter with Cold Steel
    20:33 Heartshadow vs. The Lament
    21:33 Note on Pack Hunter exceptions
    21:44 Ergo Sum update
    22:56 Merciless analysis
    23:33 Parasite analysis
    24:14 The Prospector analysis
    24:42 D.A.R.C.I. analysis
    25:46 Truth analysis
    25:58 Euphony analysis
    29:54 Bastion analysis
    30:36 The Queenbreaker analysis
    31:07 Deathbringer update
    31:36 Ager's Scepter analysis
    32:33 Grand Overture analysis
    33:28 Salvation's Grip analysis
    34:07 Critical Anomaly with Chill Clip analysis
    35:12 Linear fusion rifle (Scintillation) analysis
    36:51 Machine gun (Hammerhead and aggressives) analysis
    37:45 Summary
    40:21 Outro
  • Hry

Komentáře • 741

  • @TheAegisRelic
    @TheAegisRelic  Před 14 dny +63

    Some small notes:
    - Grand Overture, much like every other weapon here, was tested with a simulated Lumina + No Hesitation buff, which is equal (or greater if you include the latter) to Hazardous Propulsion's 35% global empowering buff, and so the numbers you see in this video are as good as it gets for the weapon: the same buff as HP (except it buffs the regular shots and not just the volley)
    - Euphony's damage does not increase significantly as a result of equipping Swarmers, as all that does is apply unravel to the target, which is something that you can do by just throwing out an Arcane Needle on damage start, something you can do with any other warlock damage option
    Please check the spreadsheet for additional info before commenting if you have any questions or feedback to give :)

    • @Galaxy40k
      @Galaxy40k Před 14 dny +2

      Literally posted a comment asking about Swarmers on Euphony before I saw this, lol. So do you think Apotheosis the clear winner then for Euphony builds? Since even considering the entire sandbox, Euphony ammo is probably mostly saved for boss damage, I guess? So anything that maximizes that potential would be the best fit for it

    • @iESCAP1SM
      @iESCAP1SM Před 11 dny

      Question: does Ergo Sum Wolfpack apply to other users’ Ergo Sum swords, despite them being exotic? If so, does the projectiles count towards The Perfect Fifth?

    • @Griever_404
      @Griever_404 Před 11 dny

      We also no longer have surges in raids and dungeons. For the sake of comparison that does not matter, but just to reiterate the beginning of the video.

    • @liamwilliamson7694
      @liamwilliamson7694 Před 9 dny

      Do you have a video that explains how to deciver the spreadsheet?

  • @paul2725
    @paul2725 Před 15 dny +1139

    can't believe thunderlord is still the best dps, i keep using it, thanks for the info!

    • @Alckee6904
      @Alckee6904 Před 15 dny +97

      Can't wait to show all my lfg's who the real final boss is.

    • @marianomarchione6242
      @marianomarchione6242 Před 15 dny +51

      Thunderlord never leaves my heavy slot… LFGS hate me out dpsing them

    • @miaminecrafttiddies
      @miaminecrafttiddies Před 15 dny

      @@marianomarchione6242 thunderlord is good don't get me wrong but they must be really bad if they're getting out dpsed by thunderlord lol

    • @user-vl4iq7bj5e
      @user-vl4iq7bj5e Před 15 dny +2

      *Microcosm

    • @pogdan7966
      @pogdan7966 Před 15 dny +2

      What other guns do you use with thunderlord?

  • @irrelevantnamehandle
    @irrelevantnamehandle Před 15 dny +246

    so my takeaway from this video after watching it all is that;
    -edge transit and rockets are still good, but edge transit is better for ease of use, total damage and overall dps without needing someone to run ghorn, and it’s also the best option if your on a warlock/titan for dps.
    -still hunt is the best dps special and overall damage if your on a hunter using celestial. basically it’s so good that it blows everything out of the water when you throw in apex predator and holster mods. (edit: just announced its getting a 25% nerf in august, it’s still going to be top tier, just not as good as it is now, if your combining it with apex predator your still going to be doing extremely good damage).
    -swords are in a good place esp with ergo sum buffing them, and summum bonnum is pretty much the new winner in terms of raw damage in the right situation in terms for swords.
    -microcosm, levis breath, whisper etc. are all good consistent options for dps
    -euphony is a good special, it’s good on its own but better as a dump special after you’ve dumped all your heavy. it also really highlights how bad linears are. Cloudstrike is also extremely good as a dps special.
    -linears are just straight up bad, not worth using besides euphony. euphony highlights how bad this is based upon how it outdamages even the best heavy linear in damage.
    I really do wish Linears were good again, kind of sucks they took the 15% nerf in lightfall and have been powercrept to hell and back. probably the only heavy weapon class that really needs to be looked at and buffed, really do feel like they should bridge the gap between dps and full damage, like more dps than whisper while having good respectable damage, i get during the witch queen era they were a bit problematic (mainly because of div, which is a problem that’s already been dealt with) but nowadays they don’t really see much use outside of niche situations. with whisper basically being back on top and having weapons like still hunt and euphony who do their job better, if not by much more than heavy linears. i do hope bungo reverts the 15% nerf and gives them something more.

    • @brendanlandine8824
      @brendanlandine8824 Před 15 dny +2

      @aegis what would you pair with edge transit for after the dump? Feel like void specials are lacking...

    • @scmatrix_
      @scmatrix_ Před 15 dny +2

      Nessas oblation, the 2023 glaciocasm (overflow controlled burst), and wilderflight seem like the most optimal, but personally I'd just use izi

    • @scmatrix_
      @scmatrix_ Před 15 dny +3

      ​@@brendanlandine8824you're right good void damage specials are lacking, barely any of them run vorpal with the exceptions of some shotguns that are better off for double pellet

    • @di11onm1nkgaming
      @di11onm1nkgaming Před 15 dny

      @@brendanlandine8824fugue is the best special void weapon to pair with edge, either that or use mahees with lucky pants

    • @irrelevantnamehandle
      @irrelevantnamehandle Před 15 dny

      if your using kinetic, id personally iza or if you need a special; father's sin and the other void specials mentioned by others in the comments would work.

  • @stealth6308
    @stealth6308 Před 15 dny +363

    It’s so cool to see that even after all these years, coldheart is still the best dps option

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 15 dny +81

      So true

    • @Toothlessthedragon_
      @Toothlessthedragon_ Před 15 dny +10

      I'm already seeing laser beams everywhere LMAO

    • @emberofeon4868
      @emberofeon4868 Před 15 dny +6

      Now for the ultimate meme, quadruple Lazer beam.

    • @davidcrocker846
      @davidcrocker846 Před 2 dny

      In season of the deep it was my go to for damage in a crown of tempest build I had. I had 100% up time on all abilities and pretty comparable damage to people using apex predator (100-400k less damage if they had/didn’t have surges)

  • @JulioGarcia-pm1oh
    @JulioGarcia-pm1oh Před 15 dny +444

    thunderlord and microcosm is the definition of "put on a shirt" vs "empowering" meme

    • @Real28
      @Real28 Před 15 dny +13

      Favorites of Titans, everywhere. They can eat their crayons and still DPS.

    • @stickupkydd9454
      @stickupkydd9454 Před 15 dny +9

      Micro is soooooo nasty tho wardens luckys and micro bottom slot double kinetic surge mods 😩

    • @PpTheGreatest
      @PpTheGreatest Před 15 dny

      ​@@stickupkydd9454 Yes, but on hunter, still hunt exists so put that suboptimal loadout away and get with the meta

    • @TriggerHappy-mo3fr
      @TriggerHappy-mo3fr Před 13 dny

      ​@@Real28no there fave is hazourdous propolsion. Otherwise they get kicked for "not having enough dmg"

    • @malfeastial
      @malfeastial Před 12 dny

      you're definitely old if you still think about that meme wtf

  • @tirong6955
    @tirong6955 Před 15 dny +155

    Man, hearing lament is now one of the worst sword options for dps genuinely shattered my heart. I absolutely adored that thing ever since it came out and ran it whenever I could. Only recently did I find myself not enjoying it as much and having numbers back that up solidifies its spot in my vault. I’ll be waiting for its glorious return.

    • @gummy3584
      @gummy3584 Před 15 dny +4

      The king will return soon 😤

    • @jacchann
      @jacchann Před 15 dny

      I’m personally glad because I always fell asleep trying to complete that expansion, so I never unlocked Lament, and I was tired of LFG’s telling me to go get it when I had a perfectly usable Goldtusk and Falling Guillotine

    • @jheun83
      @jheun83 Před 15 dny

      😢I'm still out DPSing other swords with Lament on Harold.

    • @revolutioninc7081
      @revolutioninc7081 Před 15 dny +4

      @@jheun83your anecdote is the result of lfg (or your friend group) being horrendous at damage, not a reflection of the weapon in your hand.

    • @PpTheGreatest
      @PpTheGreatest Před 15 dny +3

      ​@@jheun83 You would also do a lot more damage if you used something else

  • @nathanhyman2889
    @nathanhyman2889 Před 15 dny +169

    Everybody: wondering if Aegis is dead
    Aegis: Releases enough testing footage to be longer than the ENTIRETY OF DESPICABLE ME

    • @zachstinnett5475
      @zachstinnett5475 Před 15 dny +7

      "How long is your shift today?" "4.38 Dispicable Mes." Free Sketch.

  • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
    @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Před 15 dny +63

    One argument with Ill Omens: Attrition Orbs allows it to self generate stacks to use for Argent Blade as well as surges. A single heavy I believe on casters is 10 hits so every heavy you're getting an orb. In most scenarios it wont mean much if you already have other members generating orbs too but I think it's something to consider for solo players or random match making.

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 15 dny +50

      We do use Attrition in SE speedruns for Herald for this very reason!

  • @manynukes11
    @manynukes11 Před 15 dny +119

    Lament is one of the most baffling nerfs they've ever made considering only legendary swords got better with wolfpack rounds.

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 Před 14 dny +5

      It's not really - the 2nd encounter in the Salvation's Edge raid is sword-heavy, and if everyone used Lament it'd be too easy. So they nerfed Lament to the point of being laughable now, considering they also added the new Ergo Sum and Wave Frame swords. It makes complete sense to nerf Lament but they went too far. The second it was announced, plenty were suspecting a Sword encounter in the new raid and they were right.

    • @EatsUsedTP
      @EatsUsedTP Před 14 dny +3

      lament gets wolfpack

    • @themagicalex
      @themagicalex Před 14 dny +1

      ​@@EatsUsedTP ...

    • @jay-5061
      @jay-5061 Před 14 dny

      ​@@EatsUsedTPthe brain dead thrall have come out to feast

    • @EatsUsedTP
      @EatsUsedTP Před 14 dny +2

      @@jay-5061 I shall continue spreading misinformation

  • @AuralVirus
    @AuralVirus Před 15 dny +30

    Would love to see a Boss damage Bootcamp series (of) video(*s) to help those of us new(er) to raiding etc requiring hints & tips + to up our dmg output.

    • @zackreph939
      @zackreph939 Před 14 dny +1

      Going in-depth on rotations would be huge, agree

  • @Gaffroninja
    @Gaffroninja Před 14 dny +3

    Thank you for all your work and time putting everything here together, it’s so frustrating seeing other damage tests and things don’t feel explained or tested thoroughly, or not even consistent across tests with wildly inaccurate numbers to back that up. You and the peeps helping you are amazing!

  • @AgnosticRunner
    @AgnosticRunner Před 15 dny +69

    TLDR: Taipan still clears (trust me)

  • @ibiddengt5023
    @ibiddengt5023 Před 15 dny +26

    Was going into withdrawals before this was uploaded. Thanks Aegis!

  • @chapel4
    @chapel4 Před 15 dny +48

    thank god i don’t have to think anymore

  • @ch_hassan-PAK
    @ch_hassan-PAK Před 15 dny +7

    that is a lot of work my guy. very much appreciated.

  • @regal-27
    @regal-27 Před 15 dny +2

    Just wanted to let you know that I love these videos / spreadsheets so much. I've been playing destiny for a long time (mostly PvP), but never had the confidence to push into higher difficulty PvE stuff due to a lack of knowledge of what I should bring. Cleared my first GMs via LFG this week, and even ended up helping someone else get their first GM clear!

  • @UltraStrawberryDreamsMonster

    my opinion has arrived

  • @Rawkr57
    @Rawkr57 Před 15 dny +1

    Love your work! Thank you so much for everything youve done for the community.

  • @tobysealz3574
    @tobysealz3574 Před 15 dny +73

    wake up babe aegis just uploaded

  • @S38RXY
    @S38RXY Před 14 dny

    Gods work. Thank you Aegis. The wait for your content is always worthwhile.

  • @NingenSlayerZamasu
    @NingenSlayerZamasu Před 15 dny +8

    Hearing how Lament got hit hard and isn’t doing much for DPS sword wise hurts man. It’s one of my top 5 exotics that I love and hearing how it’s struggling this much and how badly Bungie nerfed it sucks. I really wish it ends up getting some buff or catalyst in the near future. Like Argent Blade or something, literally anything.

    • @JoelHernandez-tz3vk
      @JoelHernandez-tz3vk Před 14 dny

      Nerfed and power crept at the same time. Just like LFRs the year before.

  • @user-el2mk8sb9s
    @user-el2mk8sb9s Před 12 dny +1

    You just gained a subscriber ! Amazing video.
    Hope to see Hazardous Propulsion dame testing in the future for our fellow titans

  • @Dayssbefore
    @Dayssbefore Před 15 dny +1

    Aegis, as always great video! Thanks for doing this for the community.

  • @Zasz33
    @Zasz33 Před 14 dny

    Our data analyst cooked hard, thanks for the work. Can't wait for part 2 !

  • @radar345611
    @radar345611 Před 15 dny +9

    Always a W when aegis uploads

  • @sora_2342
    @sora_2342 Před 15 dny

    Very good vid! Lots of work and we appreciate it!

  • @ih197
    @ih197 Před 15 dny +3

    I’ve been waiting for this video since TFS launched!!

  • @arealphoenix9897
    @arealphoenix9897 Před 15 dny +2

    Unsure how valuable this is but something I like about Euphony is that it procs cascade point in just two crits, less than one burst. I could see it making a great pairing with a cascade/bns heavy GL. I've been using it with an autoloading/cadcade Cataphract. Probably not optimal but dumping the nades with cascade gives me plenty of time to switch back to Euphony to keep the spindle damage buff going, and it makes good backup DPS once I've dumped all the nades. Double strand is nice for surges also.

  • @shathieash7067
    @shathieash7067 Před 15 dny +4

    Would you mind testing Microcosm + Hazardous Propulsion? If you have a Song of Flame warlock alongside you, you pretty much have 100% uptime on your Thruster, and you can stack the rockets really quickly with Microcosm. I've been using it for Witness DPS, and it's a pretty easy-to-use option that can still pump out huge numbers.

  • @broodingtree2014
    @broodingtree2014 Před 13 dny

    You're amazing, man. This has got to be so much work

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 11 dny +1

      It is indeed, but the work's been done for a while, now I'm just turning it all into videos :P

  • @rogerorchestry
    @rogerorchestry Před 15 dny +2

    love your content, so valuable. thanks again!

  • @stephenbean1264
    @stephenbean1264 Před 15 dny +3

    I THOUGHT I WAS AWAKE BUT THEN AEGIS UPLOADED. NOW IM AWAKE 🔥🔥🔥

  • @rigoFGC1
    @rigoFGC1 Před 15 dny +11

    Nice to see that Thunderlord is still the highest DPS option with all these amazing options available now. Great testing!

  • @alabamaman1372
    @alabamaman1372 Před 15 dny +4

    Thanks for the numbers.

  • @TheLegoPro154
    @TheLegoPro154 Před 10 dny

    You are seriously a godsend to the community bro. Such an underrated channel. Thank you for all your hard work!

  • @luk4aaaa
    @luk4aaaa Před 15 dny +4

    my goat is back with more funny numbers so I can pretend to know what I'm doing

  • @charlesnieder8512
    @charlesnieder8512 Před 15 dny +2

    Have you tested ill omen with attrition orbs? It keeps radiant, argent ordinance, and surges active. If with 6 of them you can get another super off in a phase then it could be very good

  • @fieryflame6676
    @fieryflame6676 Před 14 dny

    These videos really help put things into mathematical perspective. Thanks for the work you do, although gruelling.

  • @Scryllix
    @Scryllix Před 4 dny +1

    Let's go I don't have to think now. Tysm cutie

  • @chungo2548
    @chungo2548 Před 14 dny

    The nice part with euphony though is that its a special weapon with good damage but its also really good at clearing rooms with a semi decent strand/prismatic build if you build into threadlings a bit so the damage is more of a secondary part of it imo. Also just looks sick.

  • @ActionJacksonDavis
    @ActionJacksonDavis Před 14 dny

    Love the work you do, thanks for everything you provide the Destiny community.❤

  • @darthnater6204
    @darthnater6204 Před 14 dny

    As I don’t play anymore it is very interesting how the game has evolved thank you Aegis

  • @willphelps40
    @willphelps40 Před 15 dny +1

    Appreciate you. Excited for your thoughts on Song of Flame, star eater Song of Flame, and Song of Flame with a demo GL/rocket.

  • @General_Genius
    @General_Genius Před 13 dny

    Great video. Cant wait to see if OG Verity options can still beat prismatic Veritys (Inmost light/Apotheosis/...). Especially without the teammate buff on the Spirits

  • @itzcobrahands430
    @itzcobrahands430 Před 15 dny +2

    One combo I've been trying is Euphony swapping to Cataphract with ALH + Cascade point. Curious on your thoughts if you've tried it. The cascade point lets you dump the mag and get back to Euphony before the spindle stacks fall off.

  • @charlie-vw7zw
    @charlie-vw7zw Před 15 dny +2

    Pack Hunter also makes proc'ing Attrition Orbs easier, I was making orbs nonstop at Herald

  • @jayus666
    @jayus666 Před 15 dny +3

    He's officially done it, now I don't need another Aztecross video for 6 months😂

  • @Drewski024
    @Drewski024 Před 13 dny

    Great video!! Thanks for the work bro!!

  • @KidneyFailure_671
    @KidneyFailure_671 Před 15 dny

    Ty for the numbers again :) i can definitely speak for acrius with it's ease of use and very good damage, was doing salvations edge for the first time and everyone else was on swords while i was on acrius for herald of finality, and i was always at double the damage of everyone else at the wipe screen. I was also wondering if cloudstrike+crux with hazardous propulsion is a viable dps option for stuff like witness (im a titan main so i don't have access to celestial) and i was relieved to see you recommending it. Keep up the great work you do for this community

  • @samuelviden7412
    @samuelviden7412 Před 15 dny +8

    I recently got the Star-Eater/Apotheosis combo exotic class item for my warlock. Fantastic for DPS phases, obviously.

  • @ModularRefridgerator
    @ModularRefridgerator Před 15 dny +2

    Would MARSILION-C (hvy SOLAR gl) with envious + full court, paired with stillhunt, be better than edge transit for say witness dps?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 15 dny +1

      Potentially, will test

    • @warv6552
      @warv6552 Před 13 dny

      Full court only buffs the explosive portion of the GLs damage by 25%, and since marsilion is a 150rpm that means the blast radius is extremely low so full court is not as good.

  • @superman15922
    @superman15922 Před 10 dny

    One note about Bastion, it performs amazingly with Wishful Ignorance, as the Wishful melee dmg buff last long enough to continue stacking it even after shooting Bastion again.
    So if you just Bastion - Punch continuously you'll constantly habe the trench barrel buff + you'll even further buff the Wishful punches.

  • @lizard2361
    @lizard2361 Před 14 dny

    Man you are amazing love your content keep it up❤

  • @CrimsonHeroes
    @CrimsonHeroes Před 15 dny

    The shatter damage from glacial quake on prismatic with star eaters is so good it’s funny

  • @potatis4693
    @potatis4693 Před 15 dny +1

    Hey, Aegis! Im curious if you've tested the viability of Arc Souls vs Star-eater Scales Nova bomb now that we have an easy convenient way of making your entire team amplified via Ascendance. If I remember correctly, your spreadsheet pre-TFS stated that 1 amplified + 5 regular Arc Souls outdamaged a Thread of Evolution Needlestorm in around 13 seconds, the change to 6 Amplified Arc Souls should roughly be an 86% damage increase. In addition, anyone with an Arc Soul on Prismatic will likely give it a 10% damage increase thanks to Facet of Courage.

  • @KDLoki
    @KDLoki Před 15 dny +1

    Ive been getting back into Destiny 2 and although I've lost interest in endgame content I still find these videos entertaining.
    Also, hearing Lament and heavy linears have fell off a cliff is geneuinely upsetting. Cataclysmic was my go to throughout the whole of Witch Queen too.

  • @jedihotdog9890
    @jedihotdog9890 Před 15 dny

    The area denial came in clutch, i can use it and cold comfort and still keep my exotic for add clear or swap to still hunt for some nutty dps

  • @yourbrojohno
    @yourbrojohno Před 15 dny +3

    I've found for me, witness DMG on warlock or titan I'm running parasite and ikelos sniper with a solar holster. I use up 12 parasite shots and almost all of my sniper reserves. At first I thought parasite was a non starter on witness as he is floating and further away, but you can do really good total DMG and it's a pretty chill swap that you can hip fire/quickscope with and never kill yourself from teammates jumping around. I fire the first x20 shot at witness, then 5 sniper shots. Because holsters are wack, each consecutive swap takes less time, but usually I'm jumping around so even with sub optimal 4 shots per. Highest I was able to do in a single DPS phase was 3,750,000 without any debuffs. I also have tons of ammo so I can instakill the subjugators if they are bothering ppl too much.
    Edit: i knew Euphony was overhyped.

    • @pupperaccino
      @pupperaccino Před 15 dny

      Whisper ez 4-5 million on Witness. Very good if not playing hunter, best on warlock due to pre-popping nova.

    • @yourbrojohno
      @yourbrojohno Před 15 dny

      ​@@pupperaccinoI might give it a try, but considering it literally requires you to be hardscoped, it seems like a good way to get kicked from LFGs for dying multiple times in a DMG phase by thinking you are out of the blasts.

    • @pupperaccino
      @pupperaccino Před 15 dny +2

      @@yourbrojohno I've found that dodging the lasers is a good option

    • @codypeoples1243
      @codypeoples1243 Před 15 dny

      Which sniper do you pair with Parasite?

  • @aeveryhawk3036
    @aeveryhawk3036 Před 15 dny +2

    really early into the video still but I'm happy to see that lost signal is competitive with witherhoard

  • @arshmakhi9721
    @arshmakhi9721 Před 15 dny +1

    Ergo Soom and Ty for the video!

  • @ThePizzaDevourer
    @ThePizzaDevourer Před 11 dny

    Man, I could feel the dive linears had taken, but I didn't realize just how grim it was. Hopefully they're adjusted soon since they take at least a bit more aim than most of the other options.

  • @AtlRopeGuy
    @AtlRopeGuy Před 15 dny +1

    A true boss. Thank you!

  • @nerdherder9340
    @nerdherder9340 Před 11 dny

    Damn bastion is looking really nice for solo dungeons. Good at nuking a major, synergizes with a lot of the common melee-based builds, decent boss damage. Could def see it being pretty good on something like gahlran where damage phases run long

  • @Weebfox
    @Weebfox Před 14 dny

    Im less excited for christmas than these, bless 🙏

  • @never3nder
    @never3nder Před 14 dny

    The one place I really like 4th times retrofit for is final boss of Warlords ruin. A boss that is very easy to crit, and has enough seperate phases that you can reasonably actually make use of the total reserves

  • @nytrix9406
    @nytrix9406 Před 15 dny

    God blessed aegis upload!! will we see a rotation designed around hazardous propulsion some point in the future? (i really want to see how good it is with grand overture)and is pro memoria with recon BNS good compared to other LMGs?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 15 dny +1

      Overture numbers use Lumina here which is the same buff

  • @xblp2
    @xblp2 Před 15 dny +9

    kneel for the king

  • @friendlyelites
    @friendlyelites Před 15 dny +1

    Ager's with Icefall mantle is very good for Titans to use during a stasis surge since Behemoth doesn't work on anything further than 10 feet than you, ran it on the Arc/Stasis pantheon and almost always topped out damage while using it with a half decent Cold Comfort. If Pantheon comes back keep that combo in your pocket for Caretaker and Explicator.

    • @pupperaccino
      @pupperaccino Před 15 dny +3

      It is unfortunate but stasis has the single worst choice of weapons for DPS, the only one that stands out really only being Cold Comfort. Good thing that there's always at least 2 surges available for any activity. :)

    • @CarpetFTW
      @CarpetFTW Před 15 dny +1

      They ruined stasis titan with the stasis rework (nerf). It's to the point that the behemoth clan fell apart because the subclass now has no viability.

  • @MrTmm97
    @MrTmm97 Před 14 dny +1

    Many of us wish we could give you way more than 1 like on the video. Here’s a comment to go with it. You put so much time and effort into these videos. There’s no way they pay out to the effort you put in. Thanks!

  • @strippelhoff4898
    @strippelhoff4898 Před 15 dny

    crazy work dude

  • @Konnerading
    @Konnerading Před 15 dny +2

    It would be cool to see how the scorching rounds from song of flame works with better kinetic weapons like outbreak, supremacy, microcasm, bastion, lucky pants.

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 15 dny +1

      In my experience the effect isn't that significant but I might test it later

    • @Konnerading
      @Konnerading Před 15 dny

      @@TheAegisRelic yeah it seems scorch rounds only proc every so often depending on the weapon type so it probably isnt substantial. The only other thing that would possibly work would be if swapping weapons resets the timer. Even then the only real world benefit might be for a dragonsbreath rotation but i feel like song of flame + apotheosis veil probably do the best or close to the best damage and is far easier to pull off than some wild swap stuff

  • @MrTrombonejr
    @MrTrombonejr Před 14 dny

    What would be the best option to pair with cloudstrike for a longer dmg phase i.e. the witness? My choices are auto loading full court/EL/cascade wendigo or recon EL crux termination (no wolfpack).

  • @freddyflo7364
    @freddyflo7364 Před 15 dny +1

    i still think that the darci buff a while back should not have been jolt, which essentially made it a heavy ammo cloudstrike, but instead give it the ability to scan the type of champions and then apply that type after a second or so, thus giving us a choice between burst heavy or that.

    • @cookies23z
      @cookies23z Před 15 dny

      damn... that would have been super cool actually

  • @alexA.7529
    @alexA.7529 Před 15 dny

    What about Dragon's Breath and Scatter Signal? It's a simple swap that I do quite often in a lot of content, and I would like to know how it fares with other damage options

  • @RBF__
    @RBF__ Před 15 dny +5

    wow! I love airgow soom!

  • @MordecaiandMonroe
    @MordecaiandMonroe Před 15 dny +1

    Love when i setup bait n switch on my linear swap and start firing and im hitting numbers that look like special sniper numbers

  • @thomasellis2213
    @thomasellis2213 Před 12 dny

    When we get to Act 2, I am excited to see how much higher the solar weapons climb above everything else.

  • @MylestotheGallon
    @MylestotheGallon Před 15 dny

    I have a build that I use with Euphony that does not match still hunt but does let me not lag behind as much, I've found that with an apotheosis star eater bond running threadling nades and needlestorm, I am able to do super, nade, fire, nade, fire, nade, fire, nade, fire then swap to an auto loading BnS cataphrac then continue back to Euphony keeping up the buff while firing 2 shots with it before swapping back to cataphrac, it could be better if the cata has cascade over BnS but I tend to get out my ammo in the GL before Witness damage is over, could be something interesting to test for a warlock rotation

  • @KoHaku1229
    @KoHaku1229 Před 14 dny

    My GOAT has returned

  • @nickt5985
    @nickt5985 Před 15 dny

    Wow, so even though still hunt is still a beast it wasn't the kind of beast I thought it was. Still could probably use some tuning so it isn't literally pushing other swap options out of contention, but good to know that it isn't anihalating the heavy slot like people have been saying it has.

  • @siwadejpumee7399
    @siwadejpumee7399 Před 11 dny

    how about the banner of war post-nerf? i tested it on warlock's ruin first boss with BoW + Syntho + 1-2 punch + tractor + shield crush, the damage is 488k per hit (244k*2). i wanna know titan grapple melee dps is still worth it or not since the grapple melee damage rotation itself is so hard to perform without making mistakes, it needs high affort but is that worth it?

  • @KrachBone
    @KrachBone Před 12 dny

    ive been using my legendary blast furnace over outbreak, and it is amazing. curious what the dps would be. my roll is frenzy kinetic tremors with a 60 rnd mg

  • @xTheLostLegendx
    @xTheLostLegendx Před 15 dny

    grand overture, people always doubted it but its generally amazing

    • @jonahbrown5669
      @jonahbrown5669 Před 15 dny

      I'd use ir more if it didn't have that charge time. I find it awkward to use in things like GMs

  • @lewismcdowall9873
    @lewismcdowall9873 Před 15 dny

    Holy wowza all that stream time coming together to make one saucy dmg explanation papa aegis is spoiling me today

  • @jonahbrown5669
    @jonahbrown5669 Před 15 dny +1

    God I hope jolt is added to arnarchy. Sure it wouldn't add too much extra damage, but it would make it much better at ad clear while making it great for overload champs

  • @grenade_37
    @grenade_37 Před 12 dny

    Dude your vids are amazing thak you so much !
    I still have a quick : What do you recommend to supplement the dps of a (Titan) Tractor user ? Preferably in slot 1. I'm using Scater signal with Overflow and Controled Burst, but i wonder if there's anything beter i can use

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 11 dny

      That's a good starting choice, double sniper or double slug are also fine

    • @grenade_37
      @grenade_37 Před 11 dny

      @@TheAegisRelic i'm affraid i'll struggle with no primary

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 11 dny

      You can run rocket sidearm until damage then swap

    • @grenade_37
      @grenade_37 Před 11 dny

      @@TheAegisRelic oh yeah okay, thanks dude!

  • @lyle7836
    @lyle7836 Před 15 dny

    Any plans to add how much damage you pick up per heavy brick on the spreadsheet, I think it would be a good addition and I think that’s the reason I still have competitive damage on retrofit in certain boss encounters

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 14 dny +1

      Yeah that's a cool idea I was considering adding :)

  • @blueknightcraze6766
    @blueknightcraze6766 Před 14 dny

    For summum bonum is that assuming chaos reshaped is already at x2 at the start of dps? Does chaos reshaped work like shot caller did in pantheon where you can hit something while its immune to get it going before dps phase starts?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 14 dny

      Yes, and it works on any damage received/given so you just need to be in combat

  • @BuckShot456789
    @BuckShot456789 Před 15 dny +37

    I still hate how Bungie robbed Two Tailed as a viable DPS option when they changed the RoF for the catys 3rd rocket. Most exotics get their 15 minutes of fame, but Two Tailed only got 5 and it was unjustifiable for a change as drastic as that. Can you imagine the rocket meta with Gally, DBreath, Apex, Crux and TTF swap rotations? It would have been pure bliss. Especially with TTF applying void weaken or suppression effects just by using it with certain artifact mods.
    Im not a huge stan of TTF but i will always back it when i say that Bungie dropped the bag with the change they gave it. Think Anakin not being a master levels of disappointment and frustration.

    • @warv6552
      @warv6552 Před 15 dny +17

      The real nail in the coffin was when they standardized all jolt values so TTFs Jolt no longer did more than other sources

    • @ginjadingo2941
      @ginjadingo2941 Před 14 dny

      @@warv6552so ttf is useless?😔

    • @warv6552
      @warv6552 Před 14 dny +1

      @@ginjadingo2941 Yeah the jolt went from like around 17,000 damage to around 4,000 which is a 76% nerf. And since it’s dps was lower than legendary rockets, that jolt was the only reason to use it in endgame content.

    • @BuckShot456789
      @BuckShot456789 Před 14 dny +1

      @warv6552 Back when the caty first dropped and people put in the grind to unlock and use it, TTF was putting up some competitive numbers, despite the jolt being out of band. It was just as easy to use as any other rocket, and if you used strand grenades that by-passed the reload, which most people were doing with gally swaps and legendary rockets to begin with. That Thump-Thump TTF had knowing you sent a 3rd rocket for extra damage was bliss. Now it's Thump-Thump-Thump, which tanks the RoF and DPS. It was so sad of a change.

    • @warv6552
      @warv6552 Před 14 dny +1

      @@BuckShot456789 Without the extra damage jolt it’s damage couldn’t really compare to pack Hunter lengdaries. It’s only real place was in niche solo situations like Solo prophecy speedrun on Kell Echo esp since the season that they nerfed jolt was the same season Apex Predator got refreshed and basically made every other rocket irrelevant, as well as them changing surge mods so that 3x void weapon boosts no longer benefited all 3 rockets essentially meant TTF had 1 single season where it was a competitive damage option. By the time they changed the fire rate it was basically already dead but apparently they thought it needed another nerf so now it’s dead.

  • @Shiroyasha830
    @Shiroyasha830 Před 15 dny

    so for warlock and titans we do cloudstrike and crux termination/wendigo or should we go still hunt and apex rotation? Also can bns edge transit with still hunt swap but with full void surge be better on titan or warlocks compared to still hunt and apex combo?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 15 dny +1

      I'll test rotations specifically later this season but Apex's better perks might outweigh the decision

    • @Shiroyasha830
      @Shiroyasha830 Před 15 dny

      @@TheAegisRelic Thank you brother

  • @KryptOKnight184
    @KryptOKnight184 Před 11 dny +1

    maybe this is just really, really bad but what does Tessellation's grenade shot w/ Song of Flame look like?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 10 dny

      It's not great haha you can see Tessellation swap DPS in the spreadsheet

  • @ruijikisu
    @ruijikisu Před 9 dny

    im interested how surge matching affects lucky pants
    i always wanted to use wardens law with microcosm to surge match, but i wonder how that compares to something like a vorpal Trust with dragons breath, or erianas with apex
    it seems like wardens is still the best legend lucky pants option, better than malf without taken buff even, but even you do, malf can never match surges with another weapon and erianas can, but takes the exotic slot too

  • @jaymac21490
    @jaymac21490 Před 10 dny

    BIG GG for this video wow

  • @puddind222
    @puddind222 Před 15 dny

    Hey Thanks so much for the video man this is amazing, do you have any data on Leviathans breath without oathkeeper? Is it still worth it ontop of something like Micro?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 15 dny +2

      The difference is extremely minor no worries

    • @puddind222
      @puddind222 Před 15 dny

      @@TheAegisRelic Thanks so much for putting the time in for us, can't wait for the ability video!

  • @jrmind8084
    @jrmind8084 Před 14 dny

    Bumgie REALLY should make a dedicated damage tester somewhat like the enclave but with stats of the info

  • @life-destiny1196
    @life-destiny1196 Před 15 dny

    Any word on Sightline Signal as a Lucky Pants option? Enhanced Precision Instrument should put it around where Malf is at base, right? Though needing an arc super isn't great.

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 15 dny +1

      I don't think so? I will test it when it's out though

    • @life-destiny1196
      @life-destiny1196 Před 14 dny +1

      @@TheAegisRelic Sorry, Sightline Survey. And it's an act 1 gun, you can get the pattern. Curious though!

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 14 dny

      Wait you can? I'm copping :D

  • @gdshark9558
    @gdshark9558 Před 15 dny +2

    Lament being out damaged by heart shadow kinda stings

  • @ThatGuy-rz6tv
    @ThatGuy-rz6tv Před 15 dny

    Would the “Other Half” sword be a decent substitute for Bequest? With the recent reintroduction of old Dares perks to the crafted weapon pool, Other Half can now also get relentless strikes + Surrounded.

    • @postmental_thoughts
      @postmental_thoughts Před 14 dny

      it would work as a replacement but you might as well use a different sword anyway bc bequest is as good as it is due to having more impact than other swords in the same frame. the perks on the bequest are nice but if its impact was normalised there are many other swords that would outclass it due to having better perks.

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  Před 14 dny

      It's worse but not that much worse

  • @The_Drifter_From_Destiny_2

    Thx now i know cerbrus+1 is still the number 1 dps option

  • @abyssosque
    @abyssosque Před 15 dny +2

    L video didnt try out 6x rat king (nah jk thanks so much for making the best videos, really carrying the community on your back)