Every Single Raid Ranked Worst to Best (W/ FINAL SHAPE) - Destiny 2
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Every Single Raid Ranked Worst to Best (INCLUDING FINAL SHAPE) - Destiny 2
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This is the ultimate raid ranking video and while I know there is a lot of raids, it should still be stated that there has been 18 of them in Destiny’s 10 year journey since we’re going to include remasters here. In this video we look at every single raid from the original vault of glass to the end of the first sagas raid with Salvations Edge. The criteria is simple for my ranking and hopefully it’s as fair as possible in context. This is a Combination of encounter design, loot, replayability (less waiting mechanics), and day 1 experience. THIS IS NOT FOR STORY REASONS AND FOR LORE. Obviously with a ton of raids there’s a ton to go over, so lets get down to ranking!
18. Eow - bad loot, bad replayability, encounters were bad outside of boss, bad day 1.
17. Crota D1 - good loot, encounter design is solo, long day 1 and not bad.
16. RON - okay loot, encounter design is solo, bad day 1.
15. GoS - bad loot, encounter design is unique, good day 1.
14. CoS - bad loot, great encounter design, poor day 1.
13. KF - boring loot, encounter design got old, great day 1.
12. VOG - day 1 was long, loot was best, replayability, encounters old.
11. Levi - replayable, loot for the time, aged poorly, day 1 was good for the intro.
10. CROTA REMAKE - loot, day 1, replayability/encounter questionable with the waiting
9. SOTP - great loot, good encounter design, poor day 1.
8. Spire of Stars - day 1, replayable final boss, loot was bad.
7. VOG remaster - loot, replayability, day 1 decent
6. KF remake - loot is okay, replayability, day 1 slight better, encounter design is much better.
5. DSC- encounter design, loot, replayability, atraks highlight but day 1 too easy.
4. WOTM - encounter design, loot, replayability, bad day 1
3. VOTD - everything but the connection issues.
2. LW - everything, but aged.
1. Salvation Edge - everything
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Only saving grace I give Ron is that it’s very fun to two and three man. Weird since it’s a raid, but honestly one of the best times I have raiding is just 3 man shenanigans
Honestly if ron was redesigned a little more it could have been a great Dungeon. And then still used the planet encounter for the raid for that year
@@minecraftdragon8583 pretty solid example. Honestly planets was the only thing tripping me and my brother up during some not so serious duo flawless attempts. Honestly I’ve forgives Ron, as it really is just the fastest and most braindead raid to run. Definitely not the best, but I have just loved doing random stuff in that raid
3 man Crown is the most fun I've ever had. I had a 6 person team fall apart on 2nd encounter and 1 guy asked if he could invite his friend in. Said friend joined and they gave me a little time and coaching to make sure I understood the nuances and then, a few tries later, we got it all done. It's a great experience because it's all about knowing exactly what comes next and being there ready to go instead of just reacting to the game prompts and being too slow to keep up with a 3 man's needs.
@@VallornDeathblade exactly why I love it so much. It is predicated on your extensive knowledge of the raid/encounter as well as being able to execute it twice as effectively as a normal raider
WRATH IS NUMBER ONE IN D1 PLAYER’S HEARTS!!
Always will be
You guys always say this but come on it’s not. Its a very cool raid with good loot but I’d never put it at 1
Hot take but, Wrath isn't even that great IMO, sure it's got great weapons and decent looking armor but the encounters feel dull
@@deathbringer5743 nah bro you’re right siva lovers are just coping
@@greenlukesky4615ur favorite raid is probably eater of worlds
Where’s my garden gang at? We may be small but by god we try anyway
Garden of salvation unironically most fun raid. Tether mechanic is prob the best mechanic out of every raid. Problem is that they decided to make picking up gambit motes more important than the genuinely fun and new tether mechanic that required actual coordination with other players.
If they just made tether more important in 2nd, 3rd and final encounter it'd be top tier. Also black garden is hands down the best location in all of destiny (PERSONALLY)
Conceptually its my favorite raid, and its the one I know the least about, I basically got my div and never ran it again, but I've been going back and getting all the raid seals, so I cant wait to play it more :)
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Wrath might be my number 1 but Garden is definitely on my top 5.
The fact that Crown and Spire of Stars are ranked higher than Garden of Salvation is criminal.
Crown was fun but spire should be ranked 19.. like it’s that bad
@@JBreezy_ Spire was the absolute worst of the worst. I hated the visuals of Crown, it looked like everything was covered in shit but the final boss fight was indeed fun.
No gos is just worse compared to sos and cos
@@hallfed Who would've though evans viewers are also as dumb as he is
I despise how GoS had reskinned armor and not unique armor. The black garden has some cool designs they could have incorporated into armor. Hell, I’d even take pyramidion armor where it looks like we are wearing the pyramid ships themselves, given what happens at the end.
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for some reason they switched the raid armor to the season pass
@@controlleronpceasywin2978 source?
idk salvations edge plate encounters get stale pretty quickly. 4th encounter is fun, but I wish everyone could be involved for the boss instead of 3 people on ad clear.
Consider: chaos run where each person gets glyphbreaker XD (its actually pretty fun and super chaotic, if ur dissatisfied id recommend it)
I will say that the last encounter should have had at least one more person be active but I love this raid
While I agree, me and my clannates have found this right balance for roles: I'm the one doing heavy lifting in 4th encounter, so against the Witness I'm just chilling on ad clear while they do the mechanic 😂
imo the final boss is also too predictable and repetitive after the first clear. And 3rd encounter kinda just feels like it was added so it would be a 5 encounter raid instead of the usual 4. 3rd doesn't really add anything to the experience beyond the square buff introduction. Otherwise the raid is great but I would still put Vow, Last Wish, and Wrath higher.
I feel that way, the first 3 encounters are pretty bad, but verity is really fun and felt like niobe labs on day 1. The witness is fairly easy though, damage isn't that hard but it does keep you on your toes
I’d say last wish and salvation’s edge are very interchangeable personally, which is great because honestly I never thought we’d get something on last wish’s level again. My only real complaint with salvation’s edge is just the lack of a third boss. If the raid had say a dual subjugator boss fight where they were as active and dangerous as rhulk it would be pure perfection, but as it sits I’m still very satisfied. Vow is still my personal favorite though followed closely by scourge. Rhulk is my goat.
Telesto catalyst wasn't added with Solstice of Heroes in year 1, Prestige Eater of Worlds and Spire of Stars released a few weeks before Solstice of Heroes.
I got mine in prestige eater of world's. I also got the glowing armor ornaments too. Great memories for sure
Salvation's Edge is a fantastic raid, but I think Last Wish deserves to be #1 instead for the simple fact that Riven doesn't limit what builds you can run while the Witness pretty much locks out an entire class (though, this has more to do with Titans being powercrept into a state of crisis.)
Salvations edge could really use a 3rd boss fight. I know they seem to he switched to 2/3 encounters and 2 boss fights but man.. another rhulk or nezarec-esque encounter in salvatioms edge would be incredible.
Saying they're locked out of DPS is completely ridiculous melodrama. Guns are 90% of what matters for DPS. No need for quirky shit either, just throw on Scintillation or Doomed Petitioner and you're literally fine. Still Hunt Celestial is higher damage but you're 2 phasing either way.
Im all for reevaluating Titans identity, but this whole "Titans are unplayable for everything" shit is annoying melodrama
@@PorcuDuckSlug Agreed for most things, in normal raids/gms this is a generally true thought. But as someone who frequently does master/low man raids, and after seeing each titan on my day 1 team get forced to switch because they didn't have enough damage, I have to disagree. Even as a warlock, whenever I do master raids or low mans, no matter how good they are, I always see titans struggling more at dps, obviously you wont see it in easier shit, but its noticeable.
@@PorcuDuckSlug I didn't say that they were unplayable for everything, I said that they're effectively locked out of the Witness bossfight. The two most damaging Titan supers can't be used on the boss, meaning their supers are relegated to just ad-clear when that's already on lockdown because of the fact that the Heavy slot isn't necessary for damage. Furthermore, that 10% a Super can contribute can be the difference between wiping due to insufficient damage and killing the boss, and when Titans are already forced to do subpar damage thanks to having to use Linears they need all the options they can get to keep up with the rest of the team while they themselves really don't bring anything to the table.
@@EepyGirlLava SE is the ONLY raid titans struggle with, every other raid has tons of solo content with titans
Seeing the original d1 kingsfall gameplay hit a special piece of nostalgia for me. It was when destiny was still kinda new and mysterious, the k8ngs fall raid and all off ttk were awesome to me. It also just so happened to be right when rick and morty launched as well and I would usually think of one when playing or watching the other.
The armor you showed for EoW was the armor from Leviathin
One thing you gotta give Crown is the Hunter helmet is one of the drippiest helmets in the game.
Saying the 5 other legendaries in kings fall are not that good is wild. Doom of Chelchis is one of the best scout rifles and smite is a pretty decent pulse.
I hoping most of the raids that got sunsetted do get some remasters or reworks and then be implemented back into the game. Also, I hope the current raids like Garden of Salvation gets some updates to its loot pool like how Deep Stone and Last Wish got
GARDEN is one of the best raids EVER!!! Every encounter is different and the boss is beefy. The art is AMAZING too. Crown rated higher than GOS might be an ACTUAL CRIME.
Crown is much better than Garden, the loot sucks and its bosses are just very big enemies
I still think Garden's mechanics are head and shoulders above a lot of raids you ranked higher.
The loot is good, not great, but the experience and div quest are just awesome
Salvation’s Edge is definitely not high on replay-ability as an LFG player.
The main reason (above others) that Last Wish clears Edge is that every encounter is far more memorable. Like without looking it up, what is the first encounter of Edge called? Because everyone knows what the first of LW is. And everyone says Edge is better because of Verity but that is so different than the rest of the raid, it may as well have been pulled from a completely different raid.
I think the fact LW has 4 bosses vs SE 2 makes up for the aging of the raid. I also really just like the dreaming city playspace more than the one we got for SE. But those 2 are for sure 1 and 2
Salvations edge as #1 is a tough call. Considering its only been out for a very short time and has already been speed ran in 25 mins is kinda crazy
Was looking for this Evan. Never fail to deliver!
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LW will forever be my #1, I don't care how many people disagree. LW was the most impactful raid I had ever been a part of.
Zip last wishes pants up when you are done over there buddy
It's a good raid but my god is it overrated
Last Wish is still my #1
Bro eater of worlds was a raid lair, is unfair to compare it to full raid 😂
he just violated crota's end remastered but i can see the chalice timer beign annoying for some people
Considering most of the raid is waiting for a timer, yes it’s pretty shabby.
Out here repping GoS as my favorite raid still lol.
GoS being way lower than leviathan is just criminal.
Gonna be honest, I know the community is in a honeymoon phase with Salvation’s edge, but once the ends I don’t see that raid staying top 3. It’s mainly because of the first half, especially encounter 2 & 3 which are easily some of the most forgettable raid encounters in the franchise.
Yup. This is the take I’ve been coming to terms with
Where would you put it though
I love encounter 2 but I can agree with you on encounter 3 being a little forgettable
wtf? I love the herald fight!
I think it’s fun as like a campaign conclusion and everything but it lacks that WOW moment for me that a lot of the other raids have. No Siege Engine, Space Walk with Deep Stone Lullaby, Leviathan Underbelly, Pyramid Traversal of Vow, Black Garden windmills, etc. it feels like it was designed as a major challenge and a fight to the end with mechanics and everything but it just lacks the moments I show to my non-Destiny friends to be like “look how cool this is!” I think in a year or so the raid will likely drop in rankings once we’re out of the Final Shape / Witness honeymoon era and it’s no longer our big threat. Definitely a top 10 but I don’t feel it’s a top 5 if that makes sense.
Wow… I did NOT expect to disagree with this video as much as I did. Would have to replay the D1 Raids to get a real grip on it but dang. Only one I will say is I freaking love GoS lol. Great video as always though.
Garden had a lot of hate but the hate for the raid has begun disappearing because the things that made it bad are mostly gone. When it came out it was buggy and barely playable and the divinity runs made many hate it but now most people see it as a decent raid not the best but not the worst. His rankings however seem more difficulty based rather than quality I mean Spire is one of the lowest quality raids in Destiny history having even less quality than the first d1 raids it didn't even have proper loot being just re-skins and only being 2 legendary weapons. It only had difficulty and that's why I think this is difficulty over quality.
Last Wish is Number 1.
Each encounter was unique. No real overlap. Everything stays fresh.
Best final boss fight in history and it's not even close imo.
Salvation's Edge:
Encounter 2 should have been a two subjugator bosses in the pit- strand and stasis forcing groups to split into two teams on DPS.
Encounter 3 was a huge waste and should have been a scrapped for different encounter entirely.
Everything else is perfect imo.
For me, kings fall has a special place in my heart, I remember watching my brother beat it and we were so happy jumping up and down, I also love the boss battles in it, and I love oryx as a villain, for me, it is the greatest raid, but also great ranking!
I actually came up a raid idea my own that has the winnower as the final boss and I call this raid Winnower's will
Winnower's will has 8 encounters 5 of them are bosses 1 puzzle encounter like vault and verity wich is the 6th encounter and 1st encounter bieng like acquisition like encounter from vow and the winnower boss fight has 2 encounters in one room and before the 1st encounter is a entrance like kings fall and between each encounter except between the winnower and the queenswalk like encounter has traversal sections and really longs ones too
Top 3 in no specific order:
Levi
Last Wish
Garden
Having been at least 10 years of following Destiny content I haven’t actually touched any Raids yet because I don’t have friends
“Eater of worlds armour is perfect for my titan.”: *shows Leviathan armour*
both versions of vog over garden is criminal
The only thing salvation’s edge did wrong was have underwhelming and boring armor that looks weird
Like every new raid since leviathan? Idk, they all look weird.
@@mylittledota4653 DSC has some the coolest armor if you ignore the helmet
@@FadedMaple07 I'd also argue that Titan raid sets have looked decent across many raids. Last Wish, Vow, Ron (Though the armor shades horribly which is why nobody uses it because why does it shade differently from every other armor? Even pyrogale which is an exotic version of the armor set shades normally), even the new Titan set is okay unlike the other 2.
Let’s be honest second half of CoS was some of the best high intensity action destiny has ever done. I am not a puzzle guy so I prefer action instead of solve this. So my opinion is probably far off from the res of the community but I have had a pretty bad experience with SE. the timing is too tight without a clan team. People quit way to quick and are just unwilling to adjust their playstyle for the raid. Last wish #1.
Vow will always be my number one. My favorite day one experience to this day, even though I didn't finish it.
love the vids evan keep them coming!
DSC in top 5 makes me happy. Thats my personal favorite raid, that shouldn't be number 1 but is because nostalgia. Incredible loot, music, design, and its fallen enemies which is always a fun time. The next 3 are hard to choose. I really like Salvations edge, Vow, and Last Wish. I think if I had a gun to my head it would be that order: DSC, SE, Vow, LW. I didn't play Destiny until Beyond Light so I never played the old D2 or D1 raids.
I've played every raid at this point from D1 to D2 and I would put DSC at #1 because it's as close to a perfect raid as exists for the average player. The mechanics are a nice medium complexity that actually get people involved. The loot is some of the best looking ever in destiny and especially perks wise. Like even Bequest is still unbeaten in sword dps. The armor alllooks fantastic to. And the music... enough said. Also the lore that it added for Clovis Bray is just so so good.
@@oxsila The difficulty is perfect for newer/casual players. Its a great first raid. I mean RoN is a good first raid to drag someone through but DSC is a good first raid to have someone do mechanics in.
I've the same top 5 (minus Wrath bc I didnt play it; so KF in its place) but I have Salvedge at #2 and LW for #1 (razer thin difference) only bc Witness feels mechanically simple.
Good list. While I may not entirely agree with some, your points and opinions on why things are where they are is well laid out. That armor set you show in the video for titan during Eater of Worlds was the set from Leviathan. Titan set from Eater was the Nohr Suit.
Still think the majority of RON was supposed to be a dungeon
I’d like them to bring back vaulted raids. Never did Spire and Crown, and I miss my Leviathan and Scourge.
I feel like garden gets way to much hate for no reason, i think its mainly because of it coming right off of forsaken and then took so long until dsc
Mechanics are weird and don't work sometimes.
@@mylittledota4653 mechanics work fine you just aren't good at doing them
Like always an excellent video.
Wrath of the machine holds a special place in my heart, it's in my top 3 definitely, It was my very first raid that I started and completed with the same fireteam (due to my personal life I never had the chance to play the previous ones in the right way, VOG and Crota loot was not updated with the actual power level so wasn't worth apart from the pleasure of doing them, and I played King's fall in chunks, every encounter with a different team), I loved the encounters, I loved all the bosses, I FUCKING LOVED THE SCORE (the tune that plays during the wipe mechanic still haunts my dreams and everyone who played that raid knows exactly what I'm talking about), I will never forget the feeling to having finally made it.
Last Wish and Salvation Edge at top shit as of today, but WOTM is the GOAT in my heart.
Leviathan's design was so good. The interconnected nature was the best.
4:47 black spindle was d1 whisper
Edge is so good it doesn’t have as many bosses as wish or kf but each encounter feels so meticulously designed
Great vid as always Evan
Honestly, your Top 5 aligns with mine. For awhile, Deep Stone was everything. Every single week my clan was in there doing mutliple runs. We mastered that raid. And yeah, it's so very tragic that Wrath of the Machine hasn't been remade for D2 yet.
I am personally biased towards Wrath, I remember pulling and all nighter and blind running everything. The outbreak puzzle was so cool and the final boss room was probably the coolest set pieces I've ever seen
Spire at 8 above scourge, crown, garden, ron, leviathan og kf is crazy
Hot take, personally, just because of the pace my team was on until we hit Rhulk (we got only 1 error code, and I think it was super early, like we had only spent 5-10 minutes, and that was it) we didn’t think of Charged With Light w/Radiant Light strat, but legitimately were in Top 50 contention, and just didn’t fully optimise damage, VoW is my Top Raid experience. I don’t think I had a Day 1 completion up until VoG remaster (not even being toxic, my teams were too casual, or I just didn’t have a team on certain Day 1’s), so yeah. It’s been a rocky ride, that’s for sure haha.
21:26 Atheon just zoomin
You should do that world of Warcraft thing but with Verity. See how long it takes them to figure out Verity
Salvations edge is hard because of the teamwork part of it. I honestly think it’s a raid (with the right team) you can successfully do the way it is intended underleveled. This raid is NOT an LFG raid, specifically for the rescuing gaurdian part in encounter 4, there’s no bad guys, just call outs, and when it’s a bunch of strangers…. Good fuckin luck
Are you going to make the WOW players trying the destiny raids you mentioned on the side into a video? I would love to see that
yeah! It's a big time commitment but im excited for it!
Wrath or Edge is my guess on #1 let’s see if I’m right!
haven't finished the video yet, but inb4 recency bias of salvations edge being top 2
update: nailed it (ty evan for also admitting potential recency bias)
I’m so glad spire is ranked top 10 at least. I loved that raid so much even tho at the time I was a raid report nerd 😂. Spire was so fun and I agree its main issue is the loot granted in y1 loot was bad overall. If they bring it back they need to add an energy primary, another special (sniper, rocket sidearm or slug shotgun maybe?), and a sword and it’s got a standard loot pool
My issue with edge of salvation was that the witness felt TOO much like oryx, this is the big bad of destiny that’s the reason for everything we’ve done…a being that is genuinely a true god…and we get to stand in a circle and shoot his chest. Using his own attacks against him in some form or having to do a more lore appeasing damage phase would’ve been an amazing send off that goes into excision (which is also basically shoot glowy chest)
Titan titan armor at 3:40 was from normal Leviathan. I have it, never did the raid lairs after.
Yeah that was a weird mistake
I hope crown gets some sort of a remaster. The last two encounters are such a fun use of a fun mechanic and the final galran encounter is such chaos with callouts and mechanics. But yeah I genuinely don't have much memory of the earlier sections. I also like galran's right hand (the auto rifle)
The thing about oryx fighting back is you're immune the entire time. It'd be difficult to make him fight back.
If you had to where would you put pantheon?
how come no one’s talking about he put d1 kings fall lower than d1 vault of glass
Now we need to find a way to break shiro's Shield and do the puzzle by ourselves and beat vault and last wish is fully soloable on hunter.
I love salvation edge as 1# but to call it’s loot the best of all time is the craziest statement 😂
I love Garden, but I gotta agree on some point here
Once you have a team that knows how things work and can do it it's wonderful. If not, well...
Crota remaster. Good raid, way to boring for my ass.
Vow is the reason I want Pantheon back. Caretaker and Rhulk were just so good on their own, but damn, without Pantheon they just feel way to easy
Watching knowing I haven’t done any raids since I played destiny 😂
Came in, saw RoN ranked at 16. Justice has been served.
Very solid ranking apart from number one. I just can't justify calling a raid where 1/3 of the playable classes are essentially useless "the best" in any way.
My top 3
Salvations Edge
Vow Of The Disciple
Last Wish
I actually agree with your stance on OG kings fall because man was the last encounter such an headache with LFG at the time… Only had 5 clears in D1 whereas with other raids in D2 I have 38 for Vog.
Rookie numbers
My personal favorite raids in order are:
1 -King's Fall (either version)
2-Salvation's Edge
3-Vow of the Disciple
4-Deep Stone Crypt
5-three way tie between Last Wish, Wrath of the Machine and VoG
Just me personally
My list
1. Last Wish
2. VOW
3. King's Fall Revamped
4. WOTM
5. Crown of Sorrow
6. SOTP
7. VOG revamped
8. DSC
9. GOS
10. CE revamped
11. EOW
12. RON
13. LEVI
14. SOS
Haven't done Salvations Edge yet, but based on what I've seen it can possibly be in my top 5. Also, not including D1 Raids other than Wrath because their Remastered versions are better.
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For those hoping for a wrath of the machine remake, and say that they wont because of the Siva assets. The husk new dread enemy has a VERY similar feel to one of the more major aspects of Siva fallen. Coding that to be a little different + a change of style would not be that difficult i think. SO THERE IS HOPE
King’s Fall will always be number one to me 🖤
Unpopular opinion probably, but the final witness fight in salvation's edge is probably the most disappointing final boss out of any raid. Mechanics can be done by 2 people. The difficulty part comes from ads(sheer amount + subjugators) and not the mechanics. If you are doing adclear, it feels like a strike tbh
It a fight between last wish nd kings fall but I always will have special place in my heart for kings fall since it's the first raid I ever did
Wotm better
@@riioas5543 wrath was a buggy mess that would be considered a dungeon these days.
Remastered KF weapons really only have like 3 gems: the scout, the HC, and Touch. The LMG is alright but its got poor trait synergy, and the other weapons basically just have better ones to replace them with.
Defiance of Yasmin is a solid PvP sniper
i think if wrath came back it would be the next to wear the crown
Nailed it. VOW & Last Wish are my favorite raids. But Salvations Edge deserves deserves to be in the top 3.
I might be in the minority but i realized why i love RoN, vow and salvations so much. I love the fact the "god" boss talks to you throughout your trip to them. Yes ron has some weak spots but i still enjoy the journey because of how he communicates. I love vow and my group constantly jokes about "the upended". I would love to have seen kings fall where we get a voice for oryx as it adds so much depth to the boss youre about to kill. If they dont communicate, i fewl like you lose a lot. Just me though
14:47 we kind of have the d1 year one system at least in the sense that every item has a level or light level and in order to reach max level you need every item to be max level.
“Why are we travelling away from the main story of the game” going to neomuna is the main story to stop the witness getting the veil
Yea, but it didn't feel that way initially. We didn't even get a full explanation of what the Veil was until well after the campaign. If not for the final cutscene of the Witness entering the Traveler, it could have been easily confused for a side story.
@@sandman1008 Sadly this is the issue with removing seasonal content. We learnt Neomuna was housing something important in Season of the plunder and learn what it is that's on Neomuna like directly at the end of Seraph but we're too busy with the station to deal with it. But now that the seasons are gone this is cut and now you just have some weird moment where we somehow know a bit of the veil and that it's on Neomuna before we go there.
Kings Fall being number 13 is insane to me.
The raid is amazing and has some of the ebst boss fights.
And sure the loot wasnt 10/10 but def had some very good guns like the pulse or rocket since it was the first weapons with auto loading holster.
Deep stone and Vog D1 and D2 are both worse imo.
Salvation edge is a good raid but i don’t think deserves to be #1? Only two bosses, 3rd encounter fills a like a filler where last wish has everything
Idk you putting garden of salvation that low is actually criminal like huh? That was a great raid
No way Vault of glass is better in D2. Also genuinely curious about why Riven is always so high on the list ? It just felt stale for my group, standard bosses with only Riven last phase interesting
3:43 that is def not the EoW set, you silly goose
I see RON more of an attempt to get people to do raids before TFS raid. Helps people dip their toes into raiding. Only thing I do wish for is slightly more mechanics so people dont get used to being stirctly on add clear.
I don't doubt the SEdge is great, but I'll never know because it's so damn challenging that none of my friends want to run it, and nobody in the community outside youtube wants to teach. It will probably be a year or do before I get to try it, and I honestly don't know if I will be playing destiny at that point.
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