@UCnHmbrV1PzX3KUzJRz4qnFQ It's a wonderful piece, and I don't feel the slightest inclination to change your mind. In terms of musical complexity, however, comparing it to a piece by J.S. Bach, Händel, Haydn, Telemann, etc, seems a bit hyperbolic. Cheers.
It evokes a watercourse - essential part of landscape to realise musically. North of the Border : bold, dramatic, fast moving; there's ''flitches of fern', and it takes me -topsy-turvy -ly -into the action..placid then up and down..survived a waterfall ! Little appreciated, the flute interweaving too near the end. Classical Guitar and Peter Gabriel's Flute never to quite meet in a song. I would have happily stylophoned my way through this.
Nice during lockdown, but there's so much more. I'm having a ball right now with videos relating to the work of Stephen Sondheim, whose songs, though from a different musical genre than prog rock, are just as beautiful and inventive as much of my favorite prog fare.
One of the songs that always gives me goose bumps. THIS album was the first I bought from Genesis. Actually, I didn't buy it for me, but as a gift for my best friend's birthday, when I was just a teenager (we were raised almost like brothers). He never knew about it, for his mother sent it back to me (my mother and her had "a cat fight" ... I think this is the right expression in english), and I was in a Beatles trip, nowing nothing about Genesis. Before I decided to bring the vinyl back to the shop, hoping to get my money back, I started listening to it, wondering what my "brother" could love in this music... And then, it was from Genesis to MY revelation. This IS the day when I felt in love with the band... After The Ordeal means a lot, for me... And believe me, Firth of fifth can't cure my goose bumps (:lol:)
Great track and the album that kicked of my love of Genesis. Within a few weeks I had all the previous vinyl abums too. Now coming up to 66yrs of age. I still have all my Genesis vinyl. Thanks. you
Seen Steve last 3 times he has been within 50 miles of me, Out of all Genesis music this one has touched me the most, beautiful piece of music. Out of all the members Steve is by far the one that carries the legacy of Genesis for the band and i thank him for it. All of those shows were the best concerts of that year.
It also serves as a "palette cleanser", Oh, and there you go, saying it yourself :))) Beautiful piece. Thanks for extending and bringing interesting background information for the music I love for dozens of years now.. amazing.
Hi Steve, this is a fantastic piece of music. Essentially a duet piano guitar. Also the flute melody at the end is just beyond, not from this planet. You have achieved great virtue in music. Thank you for all the music you made with Genesis and solo. Without you the modern music history would be poor.
LOVE this track, particularly the climactic crescendo at the end, followed by countermelodies in the ARP and flute. Absolutely astounding. We used to call it “Music to Slit Your Wrists By.“ Shame on Tony for trashing this one so much.
When listened to the album for the first time I remembered being shocked by this. I was just fifteen then. Thanks Steve for coming back those memories again!
I have often read in the genesis biographies that the rest of the band were not really into the track and considered not putting it on the album.I'm glad you stuck to your belief in the track and fought to keep it on.At first it passed me by,but has grown on me over the years,Selling England..., wouldn't be the same without it.Keep em coming steve.
I love After The Ordeal. It's a wonderful song that fills my imagination with sights of hilltops and castles and green, rolling hills and white puffy clouds somewhere in England. Such a lovely melodic guitar solo at the end. Beautiful!
Love this song so much. Was able to woo a beautiful girl back in 1975 by learning this on piano as it was her favourite Genesis track. I was surprised to learn Mike Rutherford penned that glorious Elgarian melody at the end which you play with such tasteful simplicity. It’s a shame this track tends to be overlooked when this stellar album is reviewed-to me it, and More Fool Me, help give this album such variety and shape.
Hi Steve, I want to thank you for this explaination. I think the entire album is a masterpiece but if I have to describe this song in particular with one word, it might be "anthem". Because it truly is. The combination of your acoustic guitar with the weight of Tony's piano keys are just wonderfull, but not enough. So you took your electric guitar and did what you always do: Magic. I Remember when I was a teenager and listened to this album, was mindblowing. But this track... I don't know, it just got me. And over and over the years I keep listening it. Congratulation for your career and I hope i'll see you playing with Genetics here in Argentina. Greetings¡¡¡¡
When I saw Steve in concert a few years ago this was the song that stood out to me the most. I was surprised because it gets overshadowed by the obvious epics, but live he really pushed the solo on the Mike Rutherford part (as he calls it here) - really beautiful.
Strange that after all that's been said and reported about the animosity between Steve and Tony, Steve always seems to be complimentary of Tony's contribution and truly has very fond memory of his time with Genesis. Now I like to think these guys, at the end of the day, love each other dearly.
Did you ever have a co-worker that you like outside of work hours, but could be annoying in the office because he is either such a perfectionist that gets on your your nerves, or the reverse? Steve and Tony were great together, Tony even said in an interview that Steve was some sort of ally in weird musical parts they were trying. But Tony, from what I can see, was a very dominating and obstinate musician and it must have been hard to work with him sometimes, especially after his counterpart balancing act Gabriel was gone.
Didnt I see in an interview that Tony said he didn't like this piece. Pretty sure it was this one. For the life of I cant understand why he would say that
@@Paddyjack I was thinking about this comment too: " Tony even said in an interview that Steve was some sort of ally in weird musical parts they were trying." I've had the opposite experince with band members. I've been in a couple of bands where musically I got on with a member whilst playing the music. The music united us but I was never keen to spend much time with him outside rehearsals and performing. But yes, your co-worker comment does come into play in my experience.
This was one of the most beautiful songs ever from one of the most beautiful albums ever. Thanks Steve for your videos! It seems that most of romantic passages were written by Mike
During a meet 'n' greet w/ Steve about five years ago I let him know how much I appreciate "After the Ordeal," which he hadn't performed since his '05 acoustic tour, that occasion having been the only time I'd ever known him to have played it. Well, lo and behold, on his subsequent tour he included it in the set!
This was a very emotional song for me. The first part gives me this image of walking through old narrow city streets in Italy or an enhanced soap opera background music. The second part just has the air of relief and a happy ending, I enjoyed the last notes before the fade, abrupt but reassuring. One of my favorites.
Steve- Great song! Saw you guys do this live in Tucson last year. One of the best concerts I’ve ever been to ! Modern Day Classical Music..........you and Jo stay well
This piece gave a much needed break after Battle Of Epping Forest which was very lyric laden. It has a very sweet set of melodies running thru it and a touch of melancholy in the 2nd half that works very well. I can't understand why Tony Banks continually disses this track because he plays great on it and it's such a well written instrumental. A great track.
An interesting question you raise about Tony Banks being negative about it and yet coming up with a piano part so well written. Tony does speak his mind as we all know, but I suppose that it doesnt follow that he won't give his all even if he is less than thrilled by a piece. Committed to the band . . .
This piece always reminded me of taking a sunny stroll or drive through the English countryside and all being well with the world. Although I’ve never even been to Europe, that is the evocative power of this great music.
Will be nice and cheap to visit After the Ordeal of Covid (do you see what I did there :-)). Seriously pop over to Blighty when this dies down - combine it with seeing Steve in concert ... I have tickets for Basingstoke in November - hoping it will go ahead if safe.
Sweet it is... Very memorable from my favorite Gene album. Your parts are never overlooked from the true old Gene fans.. Thanks again for pulling out a timeless classic. Cheers.
One of my favorites, thanks Steve. Long time fan (mid-70's), saw you live in '15. I have a request: please do a track chat regarding 'Kim'. Much appreciated.
Wonderful and thank you Steve, This piece of music has been close to my heart since the week the album was released and i bought at the first opportunity.
Thank you Steve love these videos, learning so much more about these tracks that I have lived with since I first heard Genesis on the John Peel radio show all those years ago.
It’s sweet for me! I don’t know how you guys did it but Genesis just got that SOUND that hits me in my gut. It on all these early albums and it’s still there in at least some of the songs up through the We Can't Dance album. The Genesis sound is always MASSIVE.
Great music from my favourite Genesis album ( visually and musically) The wonderful guitar piece was what partly inspired me to want to learn to play classical guitar. Thanks!
For me, the song sounds like and Interlude, Steve. There couldn´t be any other song that could give the album its dramatics and roundness. Great piece of music that sets the stage for the epic finale that is the Cinema Show.
Well there is quite a back catalogue, his own solo and the wonderful collaboration with Djabe - Tomas Barabas on bass is superb (as are the other musicians). To hear The Steppes reinterpreted as almost Arabic is mind blowing. And of course it is highly likely Sir Hackett might write some more material. But we all hear the sentiment of what you are saying.
It's so refreshing to see Steve appreciate his work and time with Genesis and not have any kind of negative or bad attitude about it, or act like they are too good for the music they did in the past. Steve's not only a great musician and one of the best guitarists of our time, but he seems like all around good guy.
Steve , absolutely brilliant. Thanks for these talks and performances . Can you please do a discussion about fly on the windshield ? The inside of your house looks very similar to my Dad’s btw !
A seriously underrated piece. This is the stuff that 18th century composers would froth over
It's a nice piece, but let's not overdo it.
@UCnHmbrV1PzX3KUzJRz4qnFQ It's a wonderful piece, and I don't feel the slightest inclination to change your mind.
In terms of musical complexity, however, comparing it to a piece by J.S. Bach, Händel, Haydn, Telemann, etc, seems a bit hyperbolic.
Cheers.
gringochucha Ye I probably went a bit overboard there hahaha
It evokes a watercourse - essential part of landscape to realise musically. North of the Border : bold, dramatic, fast moving; there's ''flitches of fern', and it takes me -topsy-turvy -ly -into the action..placid then up and down..survived a waterfall !
Little appreciated, the flute interweaving too near the end. Classical Guitar and Peter Gabriel's Flute never to quite meet in a song. I would have happily stylophoned my way through this.
you would be arrested, or taken to court by the compo hunters, if you were found practicing frothing in 21st c.
It fits in so nicely between Epping Forrest and Cinema Show. Perfect.
Loving these Hackett talks.About the only good thing about lockdown.Thank you
They're great ... But the only good thing about lockdown?
Nice during lockdown, but there's so much more. I'm having a ball right now with videos relating to the work of Stephen Sondheim, whose songs, though from a different musical genre than prog rock, are just as beautiful and inventive as much of my favorite prog fare.
"Palate cleanser," true! Epping Forest is quite a workout, and my brain always took this track as a beautiful, lyrical cooldown. Love it.
One of the songs that always gives me goose bumps.
THIS album was the first I bought from Genesis. Actually, I didn't buy it for me, but as a gift for my best friend's birthday, when I was just a teenager (we were raised almost like brothers).
He never knew about it, for his mother sent it back to me (my mother and her had "a cat fight" ... I think this is the right expression in english), and I was in a Beatles trip, nowing nothing about Genesis.
Before I decided to bring the vinyl back to the shop, hoping to get my money back, I started listening to it, wondering what my "brother" could love in this music... And then, it was from Genesis to MY revelation. This IS the day when I felt in love with the band... After The Ordeal means a lot, for me... And believe me, Firth of fifth can't cure my goose bumps (:lol:)
And??
NEVER. STOP. MAKING. THESE. VIDEOS....pure gold...
A brilliant piece of music, underrated and often forgotten.
This was always my favorite tune on this outstanding album...all of the songs on SEBTP are pearls on a string of pearls.
How sweet this song is... since my youth I’ve been deeply touched by this pure Genesis melody. Thanks for sharing your story, Steve!
Really you say. Who can't hear the beauty in this piece must have a heart of stone.
Great track and the album that kicked of my love of Genesis. Within a few weeks I had all the previous vinyl abums too. Now coming up to 66yrs of age. I still have all my Genesis vinyl. Thanks. you
This song is Pure Hackett! Love it for life! So beautiful! Inspiring! Thank you so much , Steve! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇧🇷
This Is for me one of the best song of Genesis ❤️
A musical box of delights that highlights every song on an album full of enchanting light
Seen Steve last 3 times he has been within 50 miles of me, Out of all Genesis music this one has touched me the most, beautiful piece of music. Out of all the members Steve is by far the one that carries the legacy of Genesis for the band and i thank him for it. All of those shows were the best concerts of that year.
It also serves as a "palette cleanser",
Oh, and there you go, saying it yourself :)))
Beautiful piece.
Thanks for extending and bringing interesting background information for the music I love for dozens of years now.. amazing.
Exactly the phrase I was going to write ! It's a blessed relief after The Battle OEF : )
Hi Steve, this is a fantastic piece of music. Essentially a duet piano guitar. Also the flute melody at the end is just beyond, not from this planet. You have achieved great virtue in music. Thank you for all the music you made with Genesis and solo. Without you the modern music history would be poor.
LOVE this track, particularly the climactic crescendo at the end, followed by countermelodies in the ARP and flute. Absolutely astounding. We used to call it “Music to Slit Your Wrists By.“ Shame on Tony for trashing this one so much.
One the finest instrumental Genesis pieces. So delicate!
When listened to the album for the first time I remembered being shocked by this.
I was just fifteen then.
Thanks Steve for coming back those memories again!
I love After the Ordeal. And I am honored to have seen you play it live, Steve. Thanks for the clip.
I have often read in the genesis biographies that the rest of the band were not really into the track and considered not putting it on the album.I'm glad you stuck to your belief in the track and fought to keep it on.At first it passed me by,but has grown on me over the years,Selling England..., wouldn't be the same without it.Keep em coming steve.
Love hearing your passion for each song that you played in! You're a gift to many of us genesis fans, love revisiting the good days!
I love After The Ordeal. It's a wonderful song that fills my imagination with sights of hilltops and castles and green, rolling hills and white puffy clouds somewhere in England. Such a lovely melodic guitar solo at the end. Beautiful!
Love this song so much. Was able to woo a beautiful girl back in 1975 by learning this on piano as it was her favourite Genesis track. I was surprised to learn Mike Rutherford penned that glorious Elgarian melody at the end which you play with such tasteful simplicity. It’s a shame this track tends to be overlooked when this stellar album is reviewed-to me it, and More Fool Me, help give this album such variety and shape.
And... How long did it last? Longer than the track I hope
alan simon Sadly not much longer than this gem of a piece!
Justin Ubele - Rapturous Renaissance women; no teeny-boppers!
This song will be played at my celebration of life.
Very sweet, Steve. I love that track. 💓
Hi Steve, I want to thank you for this explaination. I think the entire album is a masterpiece but if I have to describe this song in particular with one word, it might be "anthem". Because it truly is. The combination of your acoustic guitar with the weight of Tony's piano keys are just wonderfull, but not enough. So you took your electric guitar and did what you always do: Magic.
I Remember when I was a teenager and listened to this album, was mindblowing. But this track... I don't know, it just got me. And over and over the years I keep listening it.
Congratulation for your career and I hope i'll see you playing with Genetics here in Argentina. Greetings¡¡¡¡
Love ya Steve! You are a very big deal indeed to a lot of people. A mountain of thanks for a ton of great music over the years.
When I saw Steve in concert a few years ago this was the song that stood out to me the most. I was surprised because it gets overshadowed by the obvious epics, but live he really pushed the solo on the Mike Rutherford part (as he calls it here) - really beautiful.
Strange that after all that's been said and reported about the animosity between Steve and Tony, Steve always seems to be complimentary of Tony's contribution and truly has very fond memory of his time with Genesis. Now I like to think these guys, at the end of the day, love each other dearly.
Did you ever have a co-worker that you like outside of work hours, but could be annoying in the office because he is either such a perfectionist that gets on your your nerves, or the reverse? Steve and Tony were great together, Tony even said in an interview that Steve was some sort of ally in weird musical parts they were trying. But Tony, from what I can see, was a very dominating and obstinate musician and it must have been hard to work with him sometimes, especially after his counterpart balancing act Gabriel was gone.
@@Paddyjack That's true, but what a great time for the band. Songs never die along with Peter's stage presence.
Didnt I see in an interview that Tony said he didn't like this piece. Pretty sure it was this one. For the life of I cant understand why he would say that
Harold Burrows - Yes, Tony thought he played poorly on it.. It might be a little out of time for a second, but Steve & all of us love it!
@@Paddyjack I was thinking about this comment too: " Tony even said in an interview that Steve was some sort of ally in weird musical parts they were trying." I've had the opposite experince with band members. I've been in a couple of bands where musically I got on with a member whilst playing the music. The music united us but I was never keen to spend much time with him outside rehearsals and performing. But yes, your co-worker comment does come into play in my experience.
Pure magic.
This song was actually my favorite on the album. I bought it in high school. great record, great track! Beautifully written and arranged (and played)!
Middle age and beauty music .It is worthwhile to listen that !
I have got this collection !
😀😂😄☺
All your talks of Genesis and your solo music are sweet. Thank you very much! Please keep them coming.
This was one of the most beautiful songs ever from one of the most beautiful albums ever. Thanks Steve for your videos! It seems that most of romantic passages were written by Mike
During a meet 'n' greet w/ Steve about five years ago I let him know how much I appreciate "After the Ordeal," which he hadn't performed since his '05 acoustic tour, that occasion having been the only time I'd ever known him to have played it. Well, lo and behold, on his subsequent tour he included it in the set!
This was a very emotional song for me. The first part gives me this image of walking through old narrow city streets in Italy or an enhanced soap opera background music. The second part just has the air of relief and a happy ending, I enjoyed the last notes before the fade, abrupt but reassuring. One of my favorites.
A bright highlight from “Selling England...”
Steve- Great song! Saw you guys do this live in Tucson last year. One of the best concerts I’ve ever been to ! Modern Day Classical Music..........you and Jo stay well
a great lovely song -I still love it.
Steve, this is my favorite Genesis piece of all time. Thank you.
I always hear Free Bird on the second half of the song. Both released around the same time.
This piece gave a much needed break after Battle Of Epping Forest which was very lyric laden. It has a very sweet set of melodies running thru it and a touch of melancholy in the 2nd half that works very well. I can't understand why Tony Banks continually disses this track because he plays great on it and it's such a well written instrumental. A great track.
An interesting question you raise about Tony Banks being negative about it and yet coming up with a piano part so well written. Tony does speak his mind as we all know, but I suppose that it doesnt follow that he won't give his all even if he is less than thrilled by a piece. Committed to the band . . .
@@arthurmee yes.
Very sweet thank you Steve. Never tire of this Album.
This piece always reminded me of taking a sunny stroll or drive through the English countryside and all being well with the world. Although I’ve never even been to Europe, that is the evocative power of this great music.
Yes Genesis evoke the gentle southern english countryside very well, you've already been there (in your mind).
Will be nice and cheap to visit After the Ordeal of Covid (do you see what I did there :-)). Seriously pop over to Blighty when this dies down - combine it with seeing Steve in concert ... I have tickets for Basingstoke in November - hoping it will go ahead if safe.
Thank you 😊 Steve love and best wishes to you both stay safe and well 🙏❤️
All that is Hackett in one track. Its like a c.v.
This was great - getting sentimental about my high school days ‘81, haven’t heard this since then. Lead at end excruciatingly perfect
The electric guitar at the end where it repeats and fades is one of my favourite Genesis moments. It's so hauntingly beautiful.
Sweet it is... Very memorable from my favorite Gene album. Your parts are never overlooked from the true old Gene fans.. Thanks again for pulling out a timeless classic. Cheers.
It's a very clever little piece of music, well crafted and as you say very well, sweet. Always loved it
I've always loved this track. It's incredible. I also really love the "fast version" from the rehearsal sessions. It's classic Hackett!
He’s probably the only person I can forgive for talking over this masterpiece of an album.
A Masterpiece. One of the most beautiful songs ever made. (and the live version with Roine Stolt is just amasing❤️)
I’ve always loved this song, it’s such a beautiful song.
It nice to hear who came up with what on these tracks.....more please
One of my favorites, thanks Steve. Long time fan (mid-70's), saw you live in '15. I have a request: please do a track chat regarding 'Kim'. Much appreciated.
I simply love this song.
The battle being the ordeal 😂 thanks for these gems 👍
Masterpiece
Very sweet indeed Steve. I love this piece. Thank you once more for sharing this with us.
Wonderful and thank you Steve, This piece of music has been close to my heart since the week the album was released and i bought at the first opportunity.
Thank you Steve to bring us in a time machine with you! Love from Quebec!
Absolutely love this album and song.
Classic piece from a classic album. It sounds amazing on vinyl!
Thank you Steve love these videos, learning so much more about these tracks that I have lived with since I first heard Genesis on the John Peel radio show all those years ago.
You should do 'Inside and Out'. Great song!
Wonderful memories Steve. Thanks for that.
Thanks Steve and Minions of Steve.
It’s sweet for me! I don’t know how you guys did it but Genesis just got that SOUND that hits me in my gut. It on all these early albums and it’s still there in at least some of the songs up through the We Can't Dance album. The Genesis sound is always MASSIVE.
Once played it during writing lesson of 10-year olds. It made them work more precise and focused.
One of the authentic original masterpoece of the extraordinary composer Steve Hackett!! I love this track! Thank you Steve, thank you Genesis!
Great music from my favourite Genesis album ( visually and musically) The wonderful guitar piece was what partly inspired me to want to learn to play classical guitar. Thanks!
I’ve always loved that piece so much ! Thank you Steve
Love the baroque style of this song.
Thank you for taking the time to do all these videos.
For me, the song sounds like and Interlude, Steve. There couldn´t be any other song that could give the album its dramatics and roundness. Great piece of music that sets the stage for the epic finale that is the Cinema Show.
Mr. Hackett, can you please lower the music so I can hear you talk? Thanks!
Sweet memory indeed, cheers Steve!
When he runs out of songs to tell us about it will be a very sad day :(
Well there is quite a back catalogue, his own solo and the wonderful collaboration with Djabe - Tomas Barabas on bass is superb (as are the other musicians). To hear The Steppes reinterpreted as almost Arabic is mind blowing. And of course it is highly likely Sir Hackett might write some more material. But we all hear the sentiment of what you are saying.
Takes me back to 73, when I was 19, and part of a rare breed which was, a fan of Genesis. When Steve left Genesis, it was the final straw for me.
Another shining gems !!!!!!!!
Love this song.
I think the electric version sounded great Steve, hearing it on the album rehearsals.
A GREAT MASTERPIECE --------
Always one of my favorite Genesis songs. It is a beautiful track Steve and I have so many great memories with it. Loved it live!
Such a beautiful song! Excellent work on this Steve!
Just amazing. Thanks Steve.
I have played this so many times
I’m melting!!!
SALUDOS DESDE MEXICO!!
Selling England... My favorite Genesis album. Interesting to hear that the ability to play certain pieces of music developed over the years.
Just...mesmerizing!
It's so refreshing to see Steve appreciate his work and time with Genesis and not have any kind of negative or bad attitude about it, or act like they are too good for the music they did in the past. Steve's not only a great musician and one of the best guitarists of our time, but he seems like all around good guy.
Steve , absolutely brilliant. Thanks for these talks and performances . Can you please do a discussion about fly on the windshield ? The inside of your house looks very similar to my Dad’s btw !
Another masterpiece. Thanks Steve!
Indeed it is sweet! Thanks for all you do!
I love this piece, Steve. So cool that you are doing these vids! 💕
It surely is, sir. You've been an inspiration to the many, as well as me. Thank you for everything!
A masterpiece. Thank you Sir. 😍