Why Man Utd Won’t Make Top 4? | Does Haaland Play Like A League 2 Player? Who’s Winning The Prem?
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- Arsenal get a draw at the Etihad! Gabriel & Saliba are impenetrable! Will Manchester Utd get top 4? Is Mbappe undoubtedly better than Haaland? On today’s episode of Vibe With Five, Rio Ferdinand & Joel Beya review the fixtures from Matchweek 30! Some of the topics include Mason mounts late winner being cancelled out by Brentford’s even later equaliser & Leverkusen’s title charge! Was Ten Hag right in his comments about the players effort? Stay tuned to hear the panel discuss who has been the player of the season & their favourites for the Premier League Title! For more insightful football content, keep up to date with the channel by subscribing and clicking the notification bell.
0:00; - Intro
1:00; - Arsenal vs Man City
3:06; - The Arsenal project is the template & Arteta’s leadership course
7:15; - Rio thinks Arsenal can win the league & the difference in Arsenal’s mentality
11:16; - Gabriel & Saliba
14:48; - Rio on Keane’s league 2 comments regarding Haaland
15:34; - Haaland vs Mbappe debates
16:10; - Rio speaks on rondos in training
19:50 - Joel speaks on Bukayo Saka’s performance
20:59; - Brentford vs Man Utd
29:12; - Where will Man Utd finish?
31:47; - Liverpool vs Brentford
32:54; - Who is Player of The Season this season?
34:48; - Who are the favourites for the Premier League Title?
35:49; - Chelsea vs Burnley & Cole Palmer
37:10; - Joel Rainbow flicks SV2 at the Rio Ferdinand foundation event
40:49; - Newcastle vs West Ham & Kalvin Philips altercation with the fans
42:46; - Other games from matchweek 30
44:14; - Xabi Alonso, Bayer Leverkusen & Harry Kane
47:08; - Outro
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Thank you Rio for speaking the truth about Arsenal football club and its players.
When that other United fan ain’t there he becomes objective
@@rickflosefactos
I love the story Rio started telling around 24:07 about how Giggs and Becks will hate to play on the side close to Sir Alex because he will be in their ear the whole time warning them to track back or they will be subbed...lol
People always seem surprised when players talk about how good roy Keane was as a player? He never lost the ball and always passed forward starting attacks
Rio scans more in charity match than McTominay does in the premier league.
Mcsause isn’t a problem trust there worst players at the club
@@AbdiHassan-uz3wg Let me guess. Bruno and Rashford? That would be the classic NPC response.
McTominay is by far the most horrible excuse of a Midfielder.
It is well
Prolly scans more at home than McTominay does in the premier league
Rio, you dont know what United are? as it looks different week to week?....I'll explain it from what I see.
Last year, with the players we had and how we played, we were playing more like Ole football, counter attacking with pace, and that's why Rashford hit 30 goals & players like Bruno did well.
This year, Ten Hag has brought in more players, and is trying to play a high press transition style with players like Rashford, Bruno, Garnacho, McT etc who cant 'play football' when we win the ball back high up the pitch, because they dont have the space to counter and run into, and this is also why the midfield is being overrun as he plays attacking midfielders in Bruno & McT.
He is trying to play a new brand of football with players that suit last seasons style and the fact that he is not aware that this isn't working and adapting to this, its where the issues are.
Rashford, Bruno, Garnacho, McT are poor when they have to hold onto the ball, keep possession high up the pitch and play through the opposition. They cant do it!
So they lose the ball, then our midfield is cut through like butter, and it happens time and time again, its a mess. That's why you see us play better or more fluid when teams attack us and hold a high-line like Liverpool or Villa, but when we face teams we have to break down, we cant do it.
New day, same old problem. We've been saying this about the team since Mourinho. Once we lost Zlatan who could hold up play and bring people in, we were done
You're actually just wrong to be honest. Last season we were one of the highest pressing teams and the problem this season is we've had no pacey centre backs all season so the high line is now a lot further back opening up the space in midfield. Get rid of Maguire, lindelof and Evans and sign 3 CBs with pace and the system will start working again. Basically we've had no Martinez all season and Casemiro and Varane have dropped off.
@@Stegibbon No im not, we were not a high press high transition team last year, you are wrong. yes we played a bit higher up the pitch with Varane and Martinez but we were still breaking at pace from the midfield and Rashford running into space. Yes injuries have played a factor this season but the manager has tried to become a high press high transition team this year and we dont have the players for it, and he plays a single pivot in midfield and its being overrun. We can never get hold of the midfield and we cant break teams down when we play high up the pitch with our attack.
@@martysmith2851 no you misunderstand. I'm not stating an opinion here, we were STATISTICALLY one of the highest pressing teams in the league last year. Your assertion that we were counter attacking is an opinion and it's factually incorrect. I'm not gonna argue with you anymore about this because it would be insanity to do so. It is a fact.
With Man Utd, you have to look at the players at this stage. We’ve talked about United not having an identity for the past 3 managers, all 3 can’t be bad managers ! The common denominators are the core of that team of Bruno, rashford, Maguire, lindelof, mctominay etc. we won’t achieve anything with any manager if this is the core. It’s a team of squad players and luxury players, you can’t build anything unless you have a core of good players with one or two luxury players who make the difference
Now you're getting it. For the most part. When a manager fails it's because the players aren't good enough
ETH isn't blameless in this. Yes, the players are bad, but if he coaches them a bit defensively, they won't concede as many shots as they do. That's down to abysmal coaching
@@jh4892 he’s not blameless at all, but what I’m saying is with this core of players you’ll never be able to play any kind of progressive football because simply put, they won’t run for you. People say they don’t know what ETH wants to do but he’s said many times, wants to be front foot pressing high and aggressively, you’ll never get that from these players. Which is why the only joy they get in counter attacking football, maybe he should adapt to that but I don’t see why he has to, to let these players off the hook again
Rashy completely stunk up the pitch the whole entire game. That guy would never made a fergie team. Hope psg does us a solid this transfer window. Rashy plays likevwe are lucky to have him. But he is lucky to be here. Interview player
Rashford in a 90/00s team would have never made it out of academy ... facts
It’s unbelievable man, I’ve been saying this before Mourinho left. We were placing him on a pedestal like Rooney, without him really proving himself game after game. He’s been on Salah’s and De Bruyne’s salary for years while not evening reaching Nani’s level. Optimises United when managers are sacked and we extend Rashford’s contract. And now, What message does it send to our younger players when they see Rashford not giving a shite yet still getting big money and extensions. It’s gotten to the point where if United sack ETH and keep Rashford on as a key player, I’m done following the club.
"Used to bury him bruv" Lol. Rip Evra.
Keano just said Haalands hold up play is poor and Div 2 standard but a world class finisher.
Spoke the truth!
Can tell arsenals plan for yesterday was hold on and take what they were given. Gotta respect it, it's the smart thing to do at city. Also both teams absolutely mauling each other the whole game was great to see. Nothing over the top, nothing too dirty, and not too much extra ness after, but seeing them fouls and showing both teams will do whatever they got to is nice. Other teams need to grow a pair too
Also Gabriel always looked so rash and like he can take somebody out in a heartbeat, but now he just looks so much more in control and it looks like straight domination now. Too much pace, too much strength, that duo is very scary
Love the intro
They can never do it like I, when you see man pull up and slide, man stepped in the room with legends Rio and Ste, you know it's a vibe, check the podcast, what you want to know? Don't ask me, go and ask Joe, if you're talking Premier League, he's in the front line and I gotta go. It's a vibe with five vibe with five, you already know what it is, it's a vibe with five vibe with five and you already know what it is.
Really enjoyed the show today, not surprised it was the day when ste wasn't on the show. Real football talk, no biased opinions
Agreed, the bickering between Ste and Joel gets a bit much sometimes
Kobe Mainoo hype has disappeared already 😂
Rio we need to see you in those legends games man, class is permanent!
Is a vibe with 5 you already know what it is....
Npc
17:00 - " He ruins it" lol
how many tunes we played matches where a couple of lads ness it upp
Gotta love Rio,he looks like he's been chilling the weekend with Conor,some UFC training,but he talks great football, shame he didn't go management, SAME for alllll the reasons,not just football. Living legend 💯🔥
Giving Joel his dues (pinching myself here) I agreed with his take on getting a result at Etihad. As a Utd fan I’m hoping for Arsenal league win… even if it means those shades again 🤦♂️
(Can’t comment on Utd- too depressing)
Didn’t mention Rice in player of the season shout, Gordon needs a mention also
Joel, as a MUFC fan, your energy levels are dope 😂😂😂
When Rio says "Play the clip" play the clip 🙌🏼
The major problem with Man united is not work rate and application, it's the hybrid low block high press they keep playing to hide the lack of pace at the back.
Exactly. I think if they want to see what ten hag has got, sign him 3 pacey centre backs this summer and let the system actually work.
@@Stegibbon Yes and no. It's also partly Ten Hag's fault, he should have bought players that can play in a high line, eliminated the ones that can't and bought cover for the injury prone ones. The centre back options Man United have are laughable, top managers do not indulge this nonsense and don't compromise their style.
@@mart4414 ok so that's just a complete misunderstanding of how transfers work and how clubs operate. This isn't fifa or football manager and we had players refusing to leave and a poor psr situation. Why just assume a professional football manager who's been in the game for decades doesn't know what type of players he needs to play a system? That's moronic on your part.
@@Stegibbon You really need to calm down and stop fangirling, the manager at Man United has too much power and is involved much more in recruitment than a modern manager should in a well run club. If Ten Hag were to stay, learn to speak English properly, improve on his talent identification and be successful I'd be a happy Man United fan. Managers find a way to impose their identity on a club, Ten Hag hasn't managed to do this at all. This is not opinion, it's facts.
@@mart4414 Simplistic nonsense. Ten Hag knows quite a lot more about football and Man Utd than you, or me. He is a bright, successful coach that played great, modern football at Ajax. We have been mismanaged. End of. In a perfect world, Ten Hag would sell most of the first team but he can’t, for a variety of reasons.
Not gonna lie watching Rio on the ball again brought on the nostalgia of the good time
Rio we need u n and sir Alex on a podcast
Rudiger gave defenders a blueprint n Saliba n Gabriel perfected it
I enjoyed roy keane giving it to Haalaad. A true United Legend
This Podcast needs STE to spice it up.
Joel!! The T-shirt 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
😂Joel is the prince of the show
Correct Rio ,Palmer is flying this season ,I can only see him improving in future. becoming world class .
As a Liverpool fan it drives me crazy how when people nominate the best player from the club this season they say Salah
Lads, it’s VVD. It’s not even close either. Easily been the best player at the club (and imo the league)
is joel the one singing the entrance song coz i think its him correct if am wrong
rio is a way better podcaster and analyst without that other united fan around
😂Ste is biased I know..
Once and always red devil
@@mashalanematjutla5146ruins the show
@@IronicArsenalhe makes points based on evidence unlike most pundit. Ex military too so hes gonna be direct innit
@@IronicArsenalshocker, an arsenal fan doesn't like Ste. You do realise he's trying to trigger you right?
@@IronicArsenal plus i dont even have a team im a foreigner but if you're not being biased to united you're sort of incorrect. Theyve hogged success in the premier leagur era, so you'll sound biased just speaking reality when you're a devils fan
The podcast is better when it's more reflective and less defensive like this one 😅
Who knew Joel had that ability. 😅
They are only commenting on UTD failing to reach top 4 now?! come on, they lost that months ago
It’s always been obvious that Mbappe is streaks ahead of Haaland. Only little kids thought Haaland deserved anything over Messi
Yo Rio what happened to "worldclass Foden" on Sunday? If I'm not mistaken he got subbed
They only like talking on Saka's performances. Never Foden or KDB lol
You don't watch enough football if you think that even the likes of Lionel Messi played well every game
@@dwaynesamuels2543Foden is good but even for England he went quiet
@@dwaynesamuels2543 bro just used Messi to justify another Foden disasterclass 💀
Same as saka
For Rio and JT are the two CB's I've seen with my tekkers on the ball. If he could play this simple and neat without skills and flair. I think he could have played easily in that central park, conducting. It takes an eye for an eye to see that, no diddy tho. Plus I think VVD also have something in him but needs to show it more often. #Riodinho...now I see why when he started Five first couple conty were freestylers 😎💯💯💯
A draw is still better for both Liverpool and City then it is for Arsenal.
City has the easiest fictures remaining
Liverpool wanna perform due to Klopp leaving, and i would say that Liverpool has slightly easier fixtures then Arsenal.
but City is looking weaker without Gundogan and Mahrez, so unless City gets some great quality into the team for next season, i do believe that Arsenal will win the PL next season.
Also people who wanna criticise Haaland, has to simply be hating on him this season is Haaland`s only season in his career where he hasn`t matched or exceeded his expected goals, and also Haaland is a player who is better in a counter attacking system, City atleast this season doesn`t play in a way that takes advantage of Haaland`s strengths, also Saka the star-boy should be called the ghost boy after that City performance, the man was a ghost on the pitch.
Football isn’t played on paper mate,playing Everton away or a spurs etc becomes 10’times harder there is alot of pressure to win.
Liverpool have the easiest fixtures
@@JayDee-rm4zz I`m wel laware that football isn`t played on paper, Liverpool and City have more experience in title runs then what Arsenal does, and both knows what it takes to win, while Arsenal is a good team they haven`t really done anything jet.
@@thetruth4654 100% you’re correct, but even those teams had to start somewhere arsenal eventually have to do it. This could be the year they do.
United fan but think we just lost Martinez, Lindelof and Varane again... not a good feeling about weekend before that and now we are down to one starter in back line. No chance top 4, we will be scrapping for wins to stay in 6th with NC and WH up are arse.
Rio spoke of a leadership course by an Australian company. I’d love to know the name. 🙏
You're proud to see players laying down on the ground faking injury. delaying play and wasting time trying to kill the game. plus you realise it might be boring for the fans. But its a thrilling title race Do yourself a favour and think about what you are saying. Stats say they dominated but Arsenal had more clear cut chances but considering Liverpool won an hour before this match, it was completely damp and not the committed performance to dominated and assume control i would have expected from the two best teams in the league. Or are they ???
Gabi and Saliba are the best CB pairing in the prem... facts at the emirates Saliba pocketed him , Emptihad it was Gabis turn 😂
Lack of fear of the manager inspired that type of game. Fergie could get you going because he was a managing maestro, but you feared him enough as well.
Spurs and Villa have some tough games coming up as do United. We can still do it. My faith in the team is still there.
Villa and spurs will drop points but so will united. Just don't see it. United are so bad. Their underlying numbers are even worse than results so could argue they are lucky to even be 6th
Rio got the Scholesy skills
Rio still got the tek 🔥🔥
Joel should make an appearance for paddock get ste to sort it
Hi Rio I believe that the team is not being coached in the correct way, the senior players are not fighting at all
Spot on rio there is no fear with ten hag them players dont care and dont fear him
Yea exactly did not fear jose ole ragnick and now ten hag. Those players arestill here and need to go
@obongo96 I agree but they did fear jose the few that are still there
Lol no they never. Remember Pogba disrespecting him during training ?
@zinedinezidane4771 yea and I remember pogba been left out of the side not that he cared tho
Totally agree with Rio it feels like you can’t criticize these players nowadays and as fans we can see the same patterns etc week in, week out and nothing seems to change. The sooner the culture changes and some of these players are gone the better - we can’t keep being inconsistently inconsistent and living off moments of individual “brilliance”, it’s just not sustainable
I got on, saw Joel, and tuned out. Can't stand him anymore. No Howson? At least with Howson, I can tolerate Joel more, this means he talks less. Still always delusional. Trossard is a gem for Arsenal. Every time he touches the ball, he can make something happen out of nothing.
This is as good as the overlap
Rio class as always
I was going to type, "Is this a running joke, am I missing something? Every time you guys say run this clip, I never see it" Then the clip comes >.>
Rio, did you ever meet Philip Clement from Rangers? see if ETH got sacked and INEOS wanted to bring in a manager like Tottenham did, would you take Philip Clemant especially if he can win the domestic treble in his first season?
what if he wants to turn bayern leverkusen into a modern giant - cos it used to be a huge club in the past. that could be a great football story
12:33 no diddy
Get Veron on or go see what he's doing now in Argentina
Our attack can perform there is no midfield and defense is too far back or too high 🤦🏿♂️
Rio still got that touch on the ball
27% possession, 6 shots, wtf
Arteta ditched all his sophisticated tactics and went for a Jose special, which is park the bus.
More shots than City btw
@@jh4892
More off target hit and hope shots or more on target actual realistic goal scoring chance shots?
@@keyboardwarriorsaint more clear cut chances. If you watched the game, you would know
@@keyboardwarriorsaintApt username. And that is a compliment, Jose was a great manager
That cameo reminds me of rolls royce rio
This is so true.. we can’t make top 4
League 2 comparison by keane was super harsh.
I love the legend that is roy keane, but I wouldn't be surprised if that comment comes from a place of still resenting and hating Haaland's dad Alfie.
He was not scoring about his goals though, his all round game is trash, he is a straight shooter, he gets in the right positions, as easy as tap ins are you have to get into positions to get them
Either the manager or the players are to blame. If the manager is not good enough, then Mourinho, Van Gaal, Moyes, Ollie, Rangnick, and Ten Hag are just as incompetent.
Sir alex..goals win games..but defences win titles.. i think arsenal favourites..
🎉yes ladies and Gentlemen my name is Joel Beya😎 with no shades t
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Why does Joel play football in those grey pyjamas like that palace keeper from the 90s
Rio an industry plant! YOU MAKING THIS CHANNEL crazy
Arteta been there 4 and half years come the end of the season. 8th (FA Cup). 8th. 5th. 2nd. This year?
Nowt
No Van Dijk mention in the POTY...
Played all season with diffetent players in the back line , along with GK in and out.
Playing with Bradley , Quansha in the back 4. Gomez a CB playing at LB.
Rio played with Neville Vidic Evra or Valenica week in week out.
Saliba Gabriel Ben White mainly together while Van Dijk playing with academy kids.
Van Dijk been unbelievable this season bar 1 mix up with Allison away to Arsenal. He gets took for granted
Saka played ball into back stick and Jesus couldn’t reach. Created the best chance of the game
Where is Steve?
It was a mature show without him, much more grown up and people allowed to talk
He is soo bias ,
We need to dump the lot that’s not with Ten Hags or Uniteds philosophy. These “playing coaches” does not want to tug the line.
Arteta is in his 5th year at Arsenal.
Nope he's in his 4th year. It will be 5th come December, this year
missing ste here, the love-hate moments with joel are just pure entertainment.
"Basking in the glory of a draw". Joe L never fails to confirm arsenal fans as no 1 laughing stock of prem.
ten Hag did fuckall on the sideline in the entire game.
One time he berated Antony and that was about it.
He just sits in his seat or stands still in the box. How can Pep and Arteta be so animated and he is just so statue-like.
I don't understand why hes like that. If everything's going to plan, then yeah, but utd are a mess. He doesn't seem to even shout any tactical changes during games. And as for subs, well thats just a bizarre area of his management.
Rio's brain works better when Ste isn't about. More analytical and insightful.
Looks like Granit Xhaka is cruising towards a league title faster than the whole Arsenal team (right place, right time, right manager). 😂
Farmer league bro, tell him to come prem and play against pep and klopp.
@@aleemali3560 farmers league but still showing class in the league and in Europa so that doesnt even matter. 🤝🏽
I dont think it's a thing of not wanting it. I think they're either being overtrained or just not athletic enough. The premiere league has made huge leaps towards athletecism.
bruh ive said this before and I will say it again, Arsenal and Tottenham should just merge into one football club and call themselves London Bottlers FC.
84 touches in the box is crazy. Thats City playing league one team stats
Rio watches ball never would i tough pascal gross would of got a mention 😊😊😊😊
Troy deeney i wouldn't bother bringing him on
Arteta is a perfect example of why we need to give ten hag time. Arteta finished 8th twice yet the arsenal fans stuck by him and now they are reaping the rewards.
Did they stick by him? Joel is on recorded asking for him to be sacked
What rewards are they reaping exactly?
@@theghost9409 they are atleast challenging and you can see they are moving in the right direction they are not a laughing stock anymore unlike united.
@@theghost9409when your team plays good football and challenges for the big titles, the best players want to come to them. This then allows you to continue to challenge and eventually ein the major titles.
That's why Rice came to Arsenal and not the Carabao Cup winners 💀💀
@@thrilla72doesn't matter if the fans stick by him, it's all about the guys in charge. If it was up to Arsenal fans, Arteta would've been sacked. That's why fans are just fans, and should never be in charge of making decisions in any club 😂
When's the last time Haaland scored in a big game? He's a absolute tap in artist!
We need an All or Nothing Manchester Utd to see what happens under Ten Haag management.
Maybe Rio should try do solo shows just connecting with fans live. He’s a much better analyst and podcaster when he doesnt have Howson nipping in his ear would be even better without Joel.
Joel saying all this and they still haven’t won is INSANE😂😂😂 all these draws are what’s exciting him, not an actual trophy YET 😂😂😂
Rondo - piggy in the middle
its 5 years not 3 years
4 years, not 5
United the Lakers on the NBA top organization, trash management, high expectations low results but die hard fans 😅💯
Isn’t this Arteta’s 4th year 5th season??
Came in halfway through 19/20 season in December 2019.
19/20 - 8th (Only had 1/2 league a season) + FA Cup (managed all the rounds)
20/21 - 8th
21/22 - 5th
22/23 - 2nd
23/24 - Title race
@@JamesSt.Patrick-wj1xl so if he came in, in 19 and were now in 24 then that’s 5 years 😉
@@JamesSt.Patrick-wj1xllike I said in his 5th season. So y was JoeL saying this was his 4th season
@WayofWyrd 4th full season he probably meant
@WayofWyrd 4 years and 3 months
Joe is such a beg nobody is basking in the"glory" of a draw.As a Gooner I'm actually disappointed with the Trossard missed chance at the end.
You're so miserable mate, he's allowed to be happy with a result away at City
@@shrisiva4016 you're mediocre if you prefer a draw over a win at this stage of the season...
@@KP00777I mean they took 4 of the 6 available points off of City this season ffs. The only way i could understand someone being upset at that is the fact that this last game was against a City team plagued with injuries
The discourse around haaland is so funny man. Hes a top top striker who gets pelters when he doesn't get service in games. If he played in a side that didn't face low blocks every other game he would score even more and he's already scored way more than most at city
He's not a good footballer,for example you can't ask him to play in other positions other than straight up striker
So, he play CF outstanding well. What you want him to be versatile like Rashy 😂
No one’s had the nuts to slide in on Rio 😂
Respect Arsenal for getting a result. But their performance was shocking. Would've thought I was watching Sheff Utd at times. Didnt even look they ever wanted to score a goal yday. And the less said about either team's StarBoys the better. Feels like yesterday's result has firmly put them 3rd in the 3 horse race. It's in Pool's hands to lose this now.
Bro worry about conceding 31 shots to Brentford 😂😂😂
@@jh4892🤣🤣🤣who said I'm Man United?
@@edtcreative your team's crap compared to Arsenal, that's all that matters 😔
@@jh4892🤣🤣🤣🤣 if you ever decide to become a CZcamsr let me know, coz you've really made me belly laugh today. Keep up the content 👍🏿
@@edtcreative bro Arsenal got you too scared to tell CZcams comments section what your team is. That's what's really funny 😂😂
How to determine if a manager needs time or he is just shite? There is no way everyone deserve 3-4 years of time right
Didn't arsenal have to go to pens to beat Porto and Porto are 3rd in there league 12+ points behind top and have a 41 year old at centre back 😂
Didn't utd celebrate like they won against Brentford then concede in the last service to stay 6th 😔