Mikel John Obi | Sir Alex Furious Over Picking Chelsea | Playing Messi | Family Feuds Over Money
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It is impossible to defend 1v1 against Messi! What it was like to learn from Claude Makélélé? What it was like to play under Jose Mourinho? Who was the best manager Mikel has played under? Why did the Manchester United Deal fall through in the end? Who helped Mikel the most in the Chelsea dressing room? Why didn’t Salah and KDB make it at Chelsea? Was Essien underrated at Chelsea? Welcome back to the FIVE YT Channel today, we have a special guest joining Rio Ferdinand, Joel Beya, Harry Pinero and John Obi Mikel! Tune in as he talks about his time at Chelsea, his transfer situation at Manchester United, his Champions League Winning Experience with Chelsea as well as discussing his own opinions on current football matters on who likes to watch play in the Premier League today.
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0:00; - Intro
1:45; - What happened with Man United?
4:51; - Mikel’s meeting with Sir Alex Ferguson
6:22; - José Mourinho changing Mikel’s position
7:42; - Learning from Makelele
8:39; - Who is the best CDM?
10:41; - Who helped Mikel the most from the Chelsea dressing room?
11:53; - How important was Mourinho?
14:55; - Why didn’t Salah and KDB make it at Chelsea?
17:55; - Did Rio have similar player stories?
18:36; - Who did Obi have to deal with vs United?
21:37; - Was Essien underrated at Chelsea?
23:11; - How did Mikel stay in the game?
24:40; - Mikel's thoughts on Hazard & his Saudi Offers
27:58; - Managing Money as a Football Player
34:49; - Who’s the best manager Mikel has played under?
37:35; - Was Ancelotti the best man manager?
37:59; - Thoughts on Conte?
49:45; - How difficult is it going to AFCON?
43:58; - Roman Abramovich flying in by Helicopter to sack managers
49:39; - Chelsea Hierarchy players getting managers out
51:39; - Was Steven Gerrard the toughest player he’s played against?
53:29; - Chelsea vs Barcelona
54:37; - How good was Messi?
57:00; - Mikel’s Champions League experience
1:04:59; - Who does Mikel like watching in the PL?
1:07:40; - Outro - Zábava
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0:00; - Intro
1:45; - What happened with Man United?
4:51; - Mikel’s meeting with Sir Alex Ferguson
6:22; - José Mourinho changing Mikel’s position
7:42; - Learning from Makelele
8:39; - Who is the best CDM?
10:41; - Who helped Mikel the most from the Chelsea dressing room?
11:53; - How important was Mourinho?
14:55; - Why didn’t Salah and KDB make it at Chelsea?
17:55; - Did Rio have similar player stories?
18:36; - Who did Obi have to deal with vs United?
21:37; - Was Essien underrated at Chelsea?
23:11; - How did Mikel stay in the game?
24:40; - Mikel's thoughts on Hazard & his Saudi Offers
27:58; - Managing Money as a Football Player
34:49; - Who’s the best manager Mikel has played under?
37:35; - Was Ancelotti the best man manager?
37:59; - Thoughts on Conte?
49:45; - How difficult is it going to AFCON?
43:58; - Roman Abramovich flying in by Helicopter to sack managers
49:39; - Chelsea Hierarchy players getting managers out
51:39; - Was Steven Gerrard the toughest player he’s played against?
53:29; - Chelsea vs Barcelona
54:37; - How good was Messi?
57:00; - Mikel’s Champions League experience
1:04:59; - Who does Mikel like watching in the PL?
1:07:40; - Outro
This was absolutely brilliant Rio I'm so proud of you and the team for bringing this stellar, captivating, intriguing content. Make sure you develop and make the documentary as it would be incredible content. Bless up. ❤
Yall should have an espisode about why Messi is the greatest. Maybe get one legend of the game as a guest to discuss this
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This brudda converted millions of Nigerians into Chelsea fans 💙
100 percent
Faxx
Babayaro started it, but yeah Mikel took it to another level
Automatically!
Xaa
Honestly, Mikel should be a TV pundit, he's so articulated and very intelligent when it comes to the game.
He now has his podcast Obione
Great sense of humor too
He should replace Henry in cbs
oh thanks !@@olaoluwamamora
He’s so conversational ❤️❤️
To put this in perspective, 2005 u20 World Cup, Nigeria lost to Argentina in the final. Messi led that Argentinian team and ultimately was awarded the best player in the tournament. Mikel played 10 for Nigeria and was awarded the the second best player in the tournament behind Messi. Mikel didn’t just give up a position he liked, he was one of the world’s best as a 10. His professionalism and commitment can never be doubted.
My man…I was furious he didn’t win the best player of the tournament. He was that good
I have always wondered what would have happenned if he stayed a 10. We can look at the trophies and yes he was successful but I was not happy with what Jose did and this is not about race but very few managers can trust our people as a 10/ Goalie but see us as work horses
He was not the captain. Make your research.
Lololo
@kagsbox high IQ is needed to play 10 or playmaking postions, as a African I see our players rely on physicality over their brain, to be the best you need the brain first.
The fact that Obi was willing to sacrfice being a natural number 10 to converting to a 6 is a testament to how dedicated he was to doing what was best for the team. Players these days would moan and force a move away the minute that happened. Takes a lot of humility to do that
He done it for money like he said here, at Manchester United he could of played his position
Also every player has sacrificed being a striker as they all start out as striker
Mate, tell me any good professional that wouldn't do the same, especially for the kind of money they get in football lol
Dedication or rather not unlocking his full potential. European coaches liked using African boys as DM or CB. This guy could have been phenomenal as a 10.
200 grand a week mate sway ye LOL
I can never forget the 2013 AFCON. We went ballistic back in secondary school. Mikel carried the whole country to an AFCON title
tbh Emenike won us that afcon
And Sunday mba😂😂 but Mikel dominated the midfield against Yaya TOURE though.
He was player of the tournament! He was amazing, I wanted him to win and he actually did! Up the chels
@@chuka6625 In the final, Mikel Obi was man of the match, and deservedly so. He literally dominated the midfield in that game and dictated the tempo of the game. That's why I say he carried the whole country to an AFCON title. Emenike didn't play in the final but he was good throughout the tournament...
You can watch a lifetime of BBC Football Focus and you will not find an interview as honest and as important as this one, well done guys!
When obi talks about family members wanting money from you, it just not only affect football players but also normal people who live in the America or Uk.
Mikel shouldn't gave it too much. Even 15% of his salary already big and rich in Africa
Yes 100%
Dude he’s 100% right it’s happening in my family right now
@@megatafiq1568no it’s not. U don’t know how mental it’s
Africans be killing it on this show. First Boateng then this. Such good vibes. Sending love from Mauritius. Represent.
Respect
uk is not a white country anymore what you mean ???
@@christianbeliever_ UK is a majority white country. Not that it matters unless you're obsessed with identify politics.
ok mr berg who
loves vaush and destiny.,
no problem at all in europe / usa / white continents....
@@christianbeliever_ No problem at all. People are people.
32:01 Obi is speaking absolute facts!! As an African it's true, most African family's get so dependent and think you should feed them forever, rather than investing the money you give them to open businesses and provide for themselves they will just sit and wait for the monthly/weekly allowances. ludicrous! glad someone spoke about it. Great show
Even down here where we’re comfortable not rich and we still have to send money monthly back home.
In my family some even quit jobs while you’re working seven days a week struggling to make ends meet.
Madness how much greed and covetousness can be so rife in peoples' hearts. As it says in Matthew 10:36 - a man's foes/enemies shall be of his own household. So true..... All praise to The Most High Yahuwah!!! Halal-YAH!
Same thing with south East Asian. My wife is Filipino and we send money monthly to the family there
I think this is a mentality of people from poor/ third world countries. I am from Angola, I have friends from Latina America, India, Singapura etc. We all are always complaining about that...
@@simga849 And I think those people are missing the love of Our Heavenly Father Yahuwah. We cannot take our riches with us - we know this very well but still we persist.
To counter your point, I know many people from poorer countries and their families don't hound them for money. In the instance of Mikel, if he were not a pro footballer would his family have to do without at get by like the rest of their community? I think so. Do you know that Money (or Meni as it was written) is an ancient false deity?? And you wonder why people get so obsessed with it?
Marking Ronaldo = Ashley Cole or Dani Alves.
Marking Messi = the whole Chelsea team, or Madrid midfield and all the defenders, watch any El Clasico every madrid player even Ronaldo is chasing n kicking Messi, what a joy to watch him for the last 17 yrs, nothing like him.
Why did the interview end,i could listen to mikel speak for hours and wont get tired,he's such a good story teller and has a good sense of humour as well....His podcast is d bomb as well....thoroughly enjoyed this episode and also the one with kevin prince as well....amazing stuff
Kevin Prince episode was wild😂😂
Fantastic interview, Mikel is so open and honest. Totally agree with him about Gerrard, what a player!
I can't get over how humble Rio is. I absolutely respect him.
Very humble I remember when I saw him AT LAGOS AIRPORT
he seemed like a right bellend when he was younger but i suppose everyone is
Big up Mikel for stating the fact about African relative expectations from the ones abroad. It’s sooo stressful. Big up FIVE
Giving is a spirit if you don't have it you don't have it nobody force you to give if you make money though is hard sometimes But this guy like he mention Oshimeh end in foreign currency very little their family will be fine no need complaining about others having their own kids according to him he stop five years back but the family still going well no need bringing it here you heard Ferdinand saying bought house for his mom did same also is not only in Africa this things happen but do as you can
Most of the times when Chelsea went a goal up, and you saw Mourinho holding Mikel's shoulder at the touchline, preparing him to come in, You knew those were 3 points for Chelsea. Mikel was so underrated in the role he played in destroying opponents' flow of play.
We used to lock that shiii up!!!😂
I miss those days
I swear 😂
Even chelsea fans dreaded this moment, we knew we wont see any extra goals. The dríver of the BUS is here
Most number 6 are underrated thats what he was saying here. Same can be said for Michael Carrick for United.
A truly underrated midfielder. Was class for years in Chelsea. Calmness personified. A blue legend!
He was too inconsistent. Top player on his day but awful on his bad days! Never reached his peak from a Chelsea fan.
@@matrix35And every manager used him, even with the inconsistencies.
He would have been a better and more attacking player at United.
@@matrix35 - Are you joking lad? The best of all his qualities was the utter consistency he had. It was why for all the coaches he played for, he was the first name on the team sheet.
@matrix35 100 percent agree there is alot of people on the comments are making it out like he is the second coming
Such a humble person and a top top player. Our rivalry with Chelsea was intense, they had a great team.
Roman Abramovich era was siiick!! love every minute of it !
I keep seeing a lot of comments across the videos forgetting that Mikel was first team NOT a super sub lol. Across his 372 games for Chelsea he averaged 70 minutes a game. That was across his ENTIRE career at the club, and that would include when he was new to the club, as well as when he was frozen out by lets say Conte etc. Which means that at the peak of his powers in Chelsea, he would have been averaging 85 minutes + a game. The guy is so underrated than people are now forgetting he was actually a pivotal part of the team and not a sub. Crazy.
As a United fan I must confess, Chelsea was a huge success during Roman era, an owner that had interest in football.
He is one of the few owners who didn't care about money more than the club... He didn't care if he had to pay millions to sack a coach who was not performing
United was also successful during that period
Don’t think he had an interest tbh… he bought the club as he needed to get his money out of Russia hence when the last few year they wasn’t spending mega money like at the start he employed good staff at the top and was ruthless with managers and always replaced them with other top managers while maintaining a top squad
Big respect to Mikel John Obi, i remember growing up an Arsenal fan i used to hate seeing this guy in the opposition midfield. He was incredible and exactly what my club needed at the time. Roman really created a dynasty at chelsea and Mikel was the unsung hero of the team no doubt 👏
I never skip anything on this podcast, what a podcast. 🔥🔥🔥 I enjoyed every minute of it.
Thanks for listening
This is the first time I'm watching a 1 hour CZcams video. Enjoyed every bit of this, as a Chelsea fan and a Nigerian. Kudos to you guys.
Lyn legend!
Lyn is finished xD
You should see their biggest rival Vålerenga😂 They are getting relegated this season
We absolutely need a Vibe with Five with Mario Balotelli idc how much you dislike the guy you can’t deny he’s a character and it would be a very good watch
Zlatan will be a Good one as well
You are very correct
Agreed
He won't be as interesting, though.
Mario would be epic
It's so crazy. 5 has brought on great players on this show but Mikel and Kevin Prince have been the best interviews for me.
Another great show! 🔥
Ask the glazers why they touch children on Epstein island next, please
Very true
Wow what an interview, loving these African ballers interviews 👌🏽
No way you’ve watched over an hour interview while the video has only been out 10 mins or so
Only been out for 5 minutes🤣
@@chrisconnolly947 lmaoooo watched 30 mins of it now, but I just knew it will be a good one from the start u knw😁
@@chrisconnolly947🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fantastic stuff
This was one of the best podcasts/interviews I've seen in ages.
Loads of great questions and Mikel is such a great storyteller, really captivating.
This guy is a legend! One of my favourite Nigerian players ever along with Obafemi Martins and Nwankwo Kanu.
Fantastic player ⭐ he kept it simple yet he was so important to the team & an instrumental part of the team. I really wanted him, Eden Hazard & Michael Essien at United but unfortunately Chelsea snatched them up. Top-class players 💥 Nice to hear Park Ji-sung getting a mention he was a fan favourite 🙂
He went to talksport recently on same topic which I commented on. Won’t do same other than to say John could have done a lot more than play DM.
Bro said "you can't defend one-on-one with against Messi, you dead." 😂😂😂😂
I think only someone like Kante could do it but there's clips of Messi dribbling him too
@@Riftwavezfortunate to say I was born in 91, and I watched most of Messi's La Liga and UCL games and let me tell you... The only people who say Messi is not the GOAT are people who did not watch him in those years.
@@awfan221Kante is world-class (was?)... But Prime Messi was a killer. As Obi says, "You're dead".
@@awfan221 😂
@@Riftwavezmessi terrorised Chelsea as an 18 year old. The game in the yellow kit and there just booting him all game
Mikel will be a good technical coach because of the training he had and the ability to read games and individual players on and off the pitch.
Estas son las anécdotas de Messi que disfrutamos, jugadores que hayan estado cerca de el y contar su experiencia y no de periodistas que nunca han jugado al futbol profecional o aficionadores sin objetivo.
Totalmente de acuerdo, gente con propiedad, no pseudoperiodistas antiMessi o envenenados del Madrid que ningunean cualquier cosa de Messi por el hecho de haberlos humillado por tanto tiempo. No es menospreciar a Cristiano, pero jugadores élite, que compiten todos los días y han vivido la experiencia de jugar contra ambos, todos o la gran mayoría reconocen que el esquema es pararlo a él a como dé lugar y siempre en bloque, jamás 1 vs 1 porque no existe manera de pararlo y durante tanto tiempo. Cristiano es un gran Killer del área pero, más completo futbolisticamente sin duda Leo!!’
I think (I know!) that is the most honest and interesting sports interview I've ever watched. Obi really told us the truth about how life in football can really be...so educational! Seems like a top man (although as I'm a blue I probably would say that! haha). Thanks for interviewing him guys!
The best interview so far, great job lads
Obi's decision to play for Chelsea FC increased the club's fan base - significantly. Starboy Mikel.
This table Mikel decided to shake over family entitlement 😂😂😂 I strongly agree with him 💯
U see am too abi, brother..😅😂
Great interview. Really enjoyed the whole video.
The legendary "Makelele role", so cool to hear from the perspective of someone who learned directly from him
We need these kind of “inside information “ kinda interviews from other players too. Dope interview
this and the overlap is the best thing to grace YT, especially loved the KPB episode!!! sick stuff guys keep it up!!!
Everyone needs to go back and watch the masterclass of Mikel at the UCL Final 2012, what a way to understand the game. Massive respect John Obi Mikel!
100% my favourite player interview so far, can't wait for the next :)
Wow this is one of the best interviews I have watched. Thank you, Mikel John Obi. This was real.
One of my favourite episodes ..open, honest and a great insight to the behind scenes from a top level elite footballer . Interesting...
These last few months have been the best you’ve done for years. Prince & Obi 🎉🤩✌🏾🏆 keep up the interviews with the top guys.
This podcast is class, great character John Obi Mikel is
More interviews like this please team FIVE.. excellent interview
Where Mikel talks about the level and degree of money he had to give his money was so well said. It is something that needs to be talked about more.
When he said family member wants to do something and he funds it, that's not a lie. His brother wanted to be a musician 😂 he sorted it, he started a transportation company for his father etc etc
I'm loving these guests you're bringing. Honest & entertaining
What an interview, some of the best on this channel. Cut above the rest on CZcams
Straight from the heart ❤️. Very frank and penetrating, enabling us to see what goes on beyond the playing field. Well done Mikel, Rio and all the panelists 💞👏👏
Top! Top top player. A joy to watch for us defensive players. Under rated and doesn't get mentioned enough.
I literally watched everything & Any time my attention got taken off this podcast for few seconds I had to skip back, wow this is really really exiting to watch Weldon everybody and thank you Rio, please don’t forget to do that documentary you talked about. ❤❤❤
Nice pod. Enjoyed watching it. Well done to Rio and the rest of the team. Big ups to Mikel for expressing himself freely. He’s obviously doing better than I expected when it comes to communication and personal expression. Mikel John Obi 🇳🇬💙💪🏽
Mikel was always a very underrated player but despite that he was still able to achieve incredible things n even tho I’m a United fan who’s Congolese I still respected him a lot as my fellow African brother🤝🏾🤝🏾
Enjoyed it, bring more retired players and let them talk about their experiences it's the best
I do not spend 1hr watching people talk but brah, this conversation got me locked in for 1hrs from 6am to 7am. Totally loved it!
Nothing but respect to MJO. As a Barca fan, I always admired him and wished that one day he joins the team. Regardless, his career was nothing short of amazing, having watched this interview made me like him even more. Guy is humble, speaks from the heart. Great example for young players.
this was PURE CLASS lads .. big up Mikel !
What an interview you guys are too good , Joel’s interviewing skills are crazy
Probably one of the best episodes yet. What a story Mikel and what a character
Every episode I see him in he’s my favourite footballer to tell stories
mikel saying messi and gerrard the best two players he’s played against. the man knows ball
Mikel can be a top pundit!
John is amazing. His story is legit 🎉🎉🎉 big up to AFRICAN footballers around the WORLD 🌍
Rio Ferdinand is truly a legend ❤this stories of retired footballers are really interesting 👌💯
I love Ferdinands eagerness to keep the stories flowing
Never heard of a player named as “human final whistle”. You knew you weren’t scoring once Jose subbed him on
What a player Gerrard was, best midfielder the prem has seen.
Banging interview 🔥🔥🥵🥵
Great interview lads, love mikel what a legend, the insight from the pros is next level, love the fact he says stevie g was his toughest opponent, can't argue with a top player saying that about a fellow pro. Also his description of why Messi is a freak should make people realise that Messi and Ronaldo is not a debate, different players, listen to the pros who have been on the pitch with them
Messi is the only GOAT
To be fair, Mikel compared Messi to the Man United CR7 and not the Madrid CR7. It was the Madrid CR7 that was supernova.
Did u hear Rio's reply messi played as a false 9 and often played in and around mikel's position, ronaldo didn't become the player he is today untill he got the freedom to roam freely like messi did. Ronaldo struggled against Ashley cole for one reason he doesn't like playing with his back to goal and ash was always aggressive and never allowed him turn. Not saying messi isn't great but his assessment was based on the fact messi played around him.
It's a joy watching him talk about real African stories in football. Top guy and happy listening to him give Steven G the credit.
Sometimes with opposition players you only see them on the pitch and don't give them enough respect, as a United fan I always remembered Obi for red cards in big games. Hearing Obi talk is incredible, elite mentality and to play at a big club as long as he did you have to be top class. Great interview and content
That decision alone is why I support Chelsea today. Would've been a Man United fan otherwise.
The way Interviewer begins to talk about the trophies won by Mikel absolutely perfect 👍🏾
What an episode man had me gripped for a whole hour plus and what an insight to be at a top club under top coaches man looking forward to more of these!
Was never a big fan of mikel because of what happened at United. But he comes off really well in this interview and my respect for him has changed completely
Great episode. Loved the bit about Macca. As a Blues fan, our status as a club moved up the football ladder right after his arrival
First interview I have watched from start to finish.. absolutely informative and entertaining. Great stuff guys.
Man I jumped on this to take 5 mins before getting with my night...had to stay until the end (sigh, lol). Fkin brilliant and great vibes all round. Big up, Obi!!!
Til this day im still upset that he never joined utd as he would have transformed our midfield but what a player and hes had a good career at chelsea tbf 👏
Weird to see how nice he is, always loved a fight on the pitch n was aggressive as hell
Lol you should know it's a serious business on the pitch 😅
Mikel is one of the most underrated players of all time a true Blue 🔵 what a player this man was in his prime
What a great interview 👏🏼🤲🏼
Im still pissed off Chelsea squeezed the flair out of him by turning him into a defensive midfielder. He had top tier playmaker potential
Just Jose things
jose being jose
What Jose did to Mikel and Joe Cole should be illegal
He made him a great Defensive midfielder. So why complain?
@@isaac-77 because he was and would have been a better Attacking Midfielder
Can I ask a favour for future guest? Can you ask them what their best eleven was during their playing career from all leagues they've played in with Manager?.... In addition to what they think best eleven is in the Prem currently based on form if the season is less than 7 games in.
One of the best people you had on the show yet not being bius as Chelsea fan but jhon obi so real with it great personality and a TOP player for us beast
Wow! Such An Interesting Interview. Just stumbled on this interview Can’t believe I watched the whole thing. Great Show Guys! Keep it up! 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Really well spoken from Mikel. Huge episode
as an African I enjoyed every second of this podcast...
This is fun to watch, thank you
Amazing interview 🎉thanks guys
Great episode. What a guy Mikel! Very honest and open and funny
Both of you should definitely do documentary educating young players out there of the limit of money they should be given people back home I don’t want to see enough is enough as a individual so they cannot empty your pocket so I would appreciate if you should lights on this important topic another note this was a fantastic episode with John Obi Mikel what a fantastic career he did have and I wish them the best in his next adventure going into the podcast direction god blessed you 🙏❤️
I was waiting for this 🔥🔥🔥
It's the way Mikel speaks he is crystal clear, lovely, that kind of clarity
Was lucky to have watched this guy play for over 10 years
Almost all players and coaches say Messi is better than CR7 and Messi is harder to defend. This proves once again that this "debate" is a media-forced debate that only takes place among fanboys, bcs everyone who understands something about football knows that Messi is better
Bro the debate will always be on the air for intertament and business reason thats it. Because thats a topic that will remains interesting for many people
I disagree. Ive said this time and time again. The best player on the ball is Messi but when you want to win, you go with Ronaldo, period. But the main point I wanted to make is, if you literally take Messi's brain and put it in Ronaldos body, he would never be as good as 5 ft 7 Messi. There's literally nothing Ronaldo can do to ever move the ball around better than Messi. it's like asking a 5 ft 9 NBA player to win a dunking contest vs lebron james. Lots of ppl have GOAT lvl football IQ amongst the top ten players of all time but Ronaldos body can never let him move the ball around like Messi, same with r9s body, Zidane etc Now how tall is Messi? 5 ft 7, pele? 5 ft 7, Maradona 5 ft 5 (on the deficiency side).
There's just no way cr7 can move that way. He's 6 ft 2. Being the best for me is simply your impact every time, in small games, in big games etc. I don't think you have to be the best on the ball to be the best but that's literally what ppl use to say Messi is better. The trophies, ballondors etc even stats are just icing on the cake. They prioritize movement only.
Some ppl with low IQ will say, "what about r9, or Ibra etc" None of those players dribbled at a high level till retirement anywhere near Messi, Never moved anywhere like Messi. Im also not saying tall players can't dribble at all, but a tall player who can dribble, becomes better every single time if his heights reduced until deficiency levels like 5 ft 4 or 5 ft 5 or less…THAT IS A FACT. So it is unfortunate for Ronaldo but I still believe Ronaldo is better because when you want to win, he's THAT guy. A professional football player who is a Messi fan once said "Messi is the best player in the world but if I want to win, I go Ronaldo".
@@Gray_xo your first point about if you want to win you choose Ronaldo is just wrong. If you look at head to head Classicos, which is the most important game for both Ronaldo and Messi at their peaks, Messi won more games, scored more goals, and was by far more important to the team than CR7 ever was. He played in a great RM team that won the CL even when he left. So this point that CR7 is a better winner is just wrong. And then you talk about how Messi's height means that you cannot give him the credit as the better footballer which is stupid, football is about intelligence with the ball, vision, dribbling, playmaking - thats what football is about. If you dont agree, then go watch Lebron dunk over players in the NBA. You cannot change the scales just because it makes CR7 look bad.. And just for record everyone who says Messi is better are players who played against him, Mikel, Lampard, Scholes, Rooney, Van Dijk, Robertson. Almost no professional player who played against both thinks CR7 is better.
@@fuaddanial2029 Your rebuttal to being the better winner is complete rubbish.
First off, Ronaldo scored in 6 consecutive el clasicos while Messi didn’t for 9 straight el clasicos which alone doesn't suggest Messi was by far anything. Now I agree that Messi was better head to head but that has literally 0 to do with who is the better winner. If one does better head to head but flops against other big teams, it doesn't make him a better winner lmao. What about all the other teams.
Secondly, Barcelona won more games, not Messi and the Real Madrid you speak of that won the UCL, yes that was peak RM that Ronaldo only got to enjoy for 3 years, he would have won more ballondors and more.
I'm not changing the scales, I literally agreed that if that's your criteria, then sure. Now, you are half right in saying football is about those things but it's also about GOALS and winning, I saw how you left that out conveniently. Now off what you described, you're basically saying once ordained to be 6 ft + you simply cant be better than Messi or Maradona which I won’t agree with. I also gave my props to Messi by mentioning his IQ. It's not just body, IQ matters too.
Idc who says Messi is better, I have a mind of my own. 30+ years of football. Has any great footballer ever talked about the physics of height and its impact? no. We are allowed to think differently sir. When I was growing up as a kid, the best was simply the person that could dribble the most. We all grew up thinking that till I got older.
There are players like Lampard who also said Ronaldo was better. Drogba, Ruud Guilt, Jan Aage, Frank Lebeouf but neither matters to me.
Man I am CR7 and Manu fan from 2003 because of him but Brother let's be honest First: Messi 's beaten with CR7 us two times at UCL Finals ( 2009 and 2011) and Manu was strong during those years.
Second : Messi is almost best player of all tournament he played while CR7 Great performance is only found in UCL
Third: Do you even remember that Messi has more Goals if no penalties included? I mean in open play Messi beat CR7 in goal scoring. So what do you mean by saying that if you want to win you choose CR7.
Man we love CR7 but let's not too biased. This debate went on 'cause he played for RM and Manu two teams with big fan base in the world but in reality it's never debatable Messi better than all else by far.
Great interview. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Good to know that ex-Nigerian player, Sunday Oliseh, left a big impression on Rio. Respect!