What on earth is happening at Man Utd?
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Manchester United have not started the 2023/24 season as they would have hoped. Their loss to Galatasaray in the Champions League follows their loss to Crystal Palace in the Premier League. And they’ve only scored 7 goals in the league, that’s only one more than Burnley, in the relegation zone.
So what’s going on? Why are they struggling to score? JJ Bull explains.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:53 Build Up Problems
03:54 Chance Conversion Problems
05:13 Injury Problems
05:52 Out of Possession Problems
07:08 Example against Arsenal
09:26 Examples against Brighton
11:41 Example against Burnley
13:15 Examples against Galatasaray
15:43 Conclusion
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So they’re bad up front, bad at the back, bad out of possession and bad in possession. Great stuff
None of those things matter because Ten Hag wants United to be the best team in tRAnSitIoN 🥴
Spoiler: they’re not good at that either
Even their manager is BALD too😂
Why watch an analysis channel if you just want to boil things down to a single adjective
@@MrMistaFantastic because it’s funny
😂😂😂
I'm glad you mentioned 2nd balls.
This has been doing my head in since Hojlund came into the team. The amount of times we play long balls to him & whether he wins it or not isn't the point. The area for 25 yards in front of him & the defender he's challenging, hasn't a Utd player in it ever, to win the 2nd ball, this is basic stuff
We don’t even win many headers, every long ball ends up won by the opposition or poorly controlled and given away. It’s not even a flash in the pan, every game it happens. No idea why we can’t win a decent header while retaining possession.
It seems to be a problem with just wanting it, which is a MASSIVE problem because those players just don’t want to try harder than others. You can’t have that thinking in any sport, let alone a sport where the whole team has to work.
“I was in Munich and I spoke with (former Liverpool midfielder) Xabi Alonso. He said, ‘You have to adapt, (it’s) the second ball, the second ball’,” Guardiola said in 2016. “I thought, ‘It’s OK, second ball, OK’. But really, you have to adapt to the second ball, and the third ball, and the fourth. I never before was focused on that, never.”
So true. We never have players close to each other, EVER. We rarely form triangles n squares lol. Players hiding all the time.
“Challenge the first, win the second” - the basics of football
For primary school age me in the 90s, I'd've not come close to believing you if you had told me Man Yoo have been Banter FC for 10 years. Incredible.
Growing up in Canada I was a glory chaser following them during the early 2000s. Now people feel sorry for me following this team. Feels strange.
Arsenal will always be the OG Banter FC....their run was incredible!
To be fair, all they'd need to say is "Ferguson retired" and it would become a lot more believable.
@@mashoodhassan4036 Nah not even close. In fact just like what the OP said, during the past 10 years Arsenal finished above utd 7 times... Also it's kinda cringe to bring them up here.
Life’s a cycle ..bhai
Its not that they're not scoring goals, they've improved on that front. It's mainly that when they do score they always concede straight away. Like every, single time.
Ten hag should implement a high pressing style at man united with amrabat and casemiro in a pivot
The xG would disagree with you
@@rudraaaxdneed fit fullbacks for that. Amrabat is the only option at lb
I would love to see the stats on how many shots Onana has faced compared to goals conceded? It feels like he hasn’t made a save in weeks
Honestly Casemiros I’ll discipline is costing us. Feel like he came to United to show he can do more than what he was asked to do at Madrid. The amount of first time blind lobbed passes he tries every game infuriate me, and then he gets caught out of position so much that he leaves us open to counters/cutbacks to the edge of the box
Good thing JJ is still there, he’s really carrying this whole channel on his shoulders
The podcast has become unbearably dry since the change, can't listen to it anymore. Such a shame, no idea why they seem to have downsized. You're right JJ is really carrying it.
Can't believe it went from one of the best football podcasts around to pretty much unlistenable.
@@oitoitoi1Athletic had a bunch of lay-offs I think
they still manage to have 20+ journalists writing utter drivel about messi playing in that joke league@@zaidabraham7310
JJ makes these videos both informative and funny. Great job. You get a ticket to goal town!
It’s great to see Tifo/Athletic giving an in-depth breakdown of a small club, usually you only get these for the big boys…like Brighton and Newcastle
Yeah it's really weird though. The media and every wannabe pundit and their dog can't stop talking about these minnows...
These mid table teams demands respect being able to play in pl and not get relegated for decades .
You're right, don't know why they keep making videos about boring small clubs fighting for relegation
2 clubs that finished below united last season and both got beaten one in a cup final?
So funny. Did United ruin your childhood?
Yup spot on, ngl Onana did drop his performance since joining MU but the tactical problem has been very glaring too. Sounds like there is an indication of bad coaching off the pitch to me.
Inter could defend better.
Probs more he’s being found out. Feels like he’s a midfielder who part times as a goalie
Inter Milan uses back 3 most of the time.
@@theojenner1902 come on last season he had 7 clean sheets in the cl
@@anandmahamuni5442a clean sheet isn't only due to the goalkeeper
It feels like I'm watching late-stage Van Gaal's team and not just because the manager is Dutch. When they have the ball there's no middle ground between slow passes across the back-line and speculative long bombs across the field or down the lines. The players are clogging up the middle of the pitch when they have the ball, and spreading wide when they don't - fullbacks seemingly inverting just because everyone else is doing it, rather than because there's a plan or capacity to do anything once they're there.
On the rare occasion the ball does end up with one of the wingers (Rashford and Antony for most of the season), they dribble down a blind alley and try to beat 6 players on their own, more often than not leading to a turnover. If they do manage to keep the ball it's then either a low percentage shot that ends up going 2-3m wide of the left post, or an attempted cross that goes 5m over everyone's head and out for a throw-in on the far side. There's no attempt whatsoever at subtlety or craft and instead just going for brute force at all times.
I've watched a lot of poor United games over the last 30-odd years (often at 3am in the morning), and yet this current way of playing is truly making me question whether it's worth watching. That last half season under Van Gaal was the only other time in my life when I've experienced that feeling, and it very much feels like this is heading down the same path.
You've explained so much of my thoughts about United lately. Me personally, I believe that if Ten Hag doesn't salvage the team's form by November, he gets the sack by January
if Ten hag was a hipster favourite he would have gotten far more stick by now but its finally coming
It was only 4 months ago that most pundits said Ten Hag had improved Utd, as well as individual players, and made impressive in game tactical changes. Tifo itself has had several videos on how Utd will play under Ten Hag, how he has improved/fixed Utd. Yet this video and few pundits seem able to address whether Ten Hag is suddenly now a poor manager, tactically naive etc and what has changed. Is it just the injuries, is it to be seen as a blip, or was the original take by most pundits on Ten Hag completely wrong?
The original take was not completely wrong. He did perform well last season becoming third in the league. While it's true manu are struggling with many other issues at the moment Ten Hag has still made mistakes in my opinion. He's forcing this possesion based football and high line pressing tactics this season and it's not working at all. Manchester united's best players are good at sitting in a low block and playing counter attacking football, it's how they won against Manchester City last derby. Also some of his signings have failed (Antony, mason mount, Onana).
he's been given a tough hand, but also, perception changes based on the job you do. For me, it's reminiscent of the Arteta days where they finished 8th twice because the Arsenal squad lacked a spine and the right players. I think that once stuff falls into place and Utd make a few more signings, they can be good too. Maybe as good as Arsenal. Just that it's a big if. But I do feel like Ten Hag is the right man for the job. Need quite a few more bad results to have to change because let's be honest, who are they going to bring in
the hype of Ten hag laster year was dumb it was just hipster fanboyism, united play mostly the same as last year, defensive counter attacking side who can't build up, the diff now is a few injures and abymsal summer mean we've been exploited more. Ten hag has done nothing to suggest he has a clue.
Or maybe the players are not doing what they are supposed to be doing
According to this analysis, players are lazy to track back, they never win a duel, they don’t win second ball, in my opinion that is all down to the players, even the space between the lines is players related not tactical in my opinion, players are not putting the effort, look at arsenal players for example, Jesus, martenilli and Saka win more duels than the whole United squad
Then I question the environment in Man UTD where the greatest players of this decade degrade so severely upon entering
These problems have been there since the real madrid preseason game where they got ripped apart every time real madrid countered and the struggles in build up were also evident in that game . Even with players coming back from injury, i don't see anything changing.
This is the reeeeeaaaaalll problem , you need a good base to attack .
A left back returning from injury (or dalot to the left, Lindelof to RB as a stop gap) would allow Amrabat to go as the 6, Casemiero to the 8, Fernandes to 10 and Mount to RW. Fernandes will press but needs to track less, Mount will run all day but isn't in the middle where he's a bit light, and suddenly its way more solid but still with the creativity. Badly missing Martinez's passing from the back though.
Preseason doesn't tell you anything, its more for fitness than anything. Missing a real LB is huge, missing Anthony who tracks back from RW is huge, not having Licha who is our most aggressive defender is huge, etc etc
@@MarkG7 can't play lindelof at full back, a full back needs to cover a lot of ground to create pre assists, lindelof is slow af in those things, same with maguire and evans
@@randomhooman3236seen the team for today? We'll see how it goes. I'm not suggesting it's an ideal solution, just that it solves more problems than Amrabat playing at full back.
The problem is to play Ten Hag's way in the Premier League you need exceptional footballers which Utd do not have. Ten Hag should design a tactic that suits the players he has. Plus, if the team is making bad decisions in the final third that's down to Ten Hag and what he is, or is not, training the team to do... Ten Hag should stop blaming the players and do what he is paid to do, get results any which way he can, including dropping his footballing vision and adapting to a more practical style of play that suits his player's abilities, at least until he can put together the team he needs to play his preferred tactics. Ten Hag is being a stubborn fool who will eventually be fired...
Very interesting point. It’s like when people ask: Could [elite manager] succeed at [Championship team]?
Exactly Tenn Hagg don't have the team to play this way, it leaves too much space time again and again, makes the other teams comfortable and once they work it out can have United on the back foot.
Unfortunately for eth,his signings haven't helped him(onana,Martinez, Anthony,mount)
Ten Hag is amazing at turning world class players mediocre.
@ian-flanagan nah it's more like can a championship winning manager take the next step up to manage a big club that is playing mediocre football for the last decade.
I think the main issue is that they're bad at defending, scoring, having a midfield, tactics, buying players, choosing managers, and squad selection. Once they fix that, they'll being competing for top 6 in no time!
Lmao so just a mid team in general?
next level sarcasm
@@AbhishekChauhan321That wasn't sarcasm
"McTominay's not doing enough"
This is true every time he takes the field.
He has hardly played this season. Desperate to be scapegoating him for this mess. Lol
I believe he's just tired of the club at this point. Can't believe we fumbled 30m for him.
@@esochibuike8477 It's literally a rule of the league that you have to have a % of homegrown players in your squad. If we sold Mct for £30m we would have had to buy a British replacement who wasn't as good at a higher price. It's weird that you claim to be a Utd fan but you want us to sell our local academy talent on the cheap
Make him wear a Scotland kit under his Man United one and he should improve drastically.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot You're half right: he has hardly played this season... because when he has, he's been woeful. Jogs everywhere, loses possession easily and never shows for the ball. I said nothing about him being the cause of our issues so I in no way scapegoated him. Don't put words in my mouth.
this is an excellent analysis. it seems all the analysis of United's woes this season imply that
a) all teams have not only worked out how to attack Utd, but are able to do it quite freely and easily
b) Utd themselves don't make any tactical tweaks to do the same to the teams they play i.e. exploit any weaknesses in their play
c) It is easy to play against Utd in a defending sense, as a compact low block is all it takes
This season it's really looking like pretty much every team IN THE WORLD is able to play against Utd, and we will be relying on the opponent having a bad day or making mistakes to score. The mentality in the squad is poor, and all you need to do is keep the team out for 30 mins, score the chance you get, and the win is in the bag - there is no chance this team will know how to come back, or indeed have the confidence to do so!
so you mean to say Ten hag is not doing enough in his job?
@@badashgr8 I'm saying both. ten Hag needs to be making more proactive and reactive adjustments in-game to address issues and opponent changes, but also the players need to be better at following ten Hag's instructions, and also play with a bit more intelligence based on the game-state i.e. tracking runners better, calming the game down right after a goal, etc.
This team currently lacks real leaders who will put the boot in when players aren't doing their jobs properly, or generally help re-focus everyone during the game. we can't just play for 20mins and then stop, or worse, let our heads drop as soon as the opponent scores. ten Hag needs to help develop a better winning mentality, but the players also need to help themselves in this regard.
I just want to watch us play one match this season where we have the full squad available. It is getting silly when 3-4 fullbacks are out and midfielders are forced to play in that position. There was one game we had 3 extra keepers on the bench and we could still not fill up the squad 🤦♂
City has been playing without a natural lb for past 4-5 seasons by deploying a midfielder/cb in the lb spot
@@user-zv7qp4vo5ithey have system implemented and also they do have 3 left cbs who can play wide centre backs.
United case is different, they're slowly implementing and the players are not good for ten hags system
Perhaps the manager should start utilising players from the academy, fans from other clubs keep hearing from United fans how good it is/was, putting 3 keepers on the bench instead of someone who could play outfield but is inexperienced is ridiculous
@@sivekkr that's just last year before that they used to play without a left sided player apart from laport also city has played with CDM as their main cb in one season so what I am trying to say is that the manager needs to adapt according to the situation which ten hag can't do
Tottenham, Palace and Arsenal are riddled with injuries too.
Palace are without Olise, Edouard and Eze and lost Zaha for nothing in the summer and still won 1-0 at Old Trafford 5 days ago.
Bad on the ball and off the ball.
On the ball:
No pattern, method, identity. All idividuality, no collective, no team work.
Off the ball:
Bad press and bad block.
The press doesn't work hard, and works individually and not coordinated.
The block is easily pulled out off possition.
This is on the manager and coaching, the players, or both.
If it's the players, the manager can't do anything, and even Klopp would be helpless.
Insane how we can not string more than 5 passes together. Long ball is not the only way to quickly transition. In fact it’s the lowest probability way to transition successfully. Klopp never does this. We are basically playing Sean Dyche ball. And not well.
5:16 i will never get tired of JJ's slightly insane sense of humor 😂
Very keen to hear John M on this topic after he backed Utd to finish second this season.
How is everyone ignoring Onana's poor positioning & decision making. The guy steps back to his goal during 1v1, not even closing down the goal scorer.
he is a sweeper keeper he is meant to push up
I think the united coaching staff have done this to him - we saw ddg do the same when at United and onana who used to come out is now doing it too
Y’all really tryna force this Onana hate train. Chill out. Let him settle in dang
@@kukunase1686 you should read the comment again
@@98godofwar Ddg does better during 1v1, he close down immediately instead of stepping back
Ten Haag will be lucky to see Christmas unless things improve massively
But TiFo told me Onana was the best goalkeeper in the Premier League in August????
Dude did play in Champions league Finale. But then again, so did Karius.
which is crazy cuz Allison and Ederson been playing with their feet for like 5 years, how can a newbie be better than possibly 2 best GKs in the last 5 years?
@@blast473he was a major contributor to that run too, which I think says more about Man Utd as a team than him
@@duyanhng8430With all due respect, Onana wasnt born yesterday. He's been playing with his feet longer than some people have been alive. The only thing he's a "newbie" at, is the premier league
Watching the video you'd know Onana is good just that our defence and Midfield let's a lot of balls through.
I just want to write this before even watching the video. Last year De Gea have made the same stupid pass to Eriksen and you made him spitroasted the entire season. Onana comes and makes the exact same thing. The only difference is Casemiro was more aware and saved the goal by getting sent off.
As I have the opportunity to get the attention, I am adding a long edit.
The edit: You have beaten the sht out of Ronaldo because he wouldnt press and your front 3 (sometimes 4) will be on an island because when the first line of press was broken they wouldnt jog back (By the way I also didnt like Ronaldo playing and thought he was a terrible role model for everyone involved.). So you put Rashford in front and get some guys who will jog back and added a defensive anchor and a player who can progress the ball without losing it so often. You play alright and get in to top 4 (Well done.). Then you buy Hojlund, who can press willingly. But to accomodate him you need to put Rashford on the left side again. And now, you are having the same issues. When the first line of press was beaten you have 8 opposition players running at your 6 players. If you try to keep a compact low block you will never getting that ball back and a good passing team is whipping you for 90 minutes. If you try to play man to man you got turned into a piece of gruyere.
I also think the team is on one if its lowest points right now and will be better when Shaw is back to fitness. But I also think Man U. replaced panic buys with well scouted buys over panicked deductions, and they dont think of what will happen afterwards when they try to solve a problem.
Response for people saying De Gea did more mistakes: When they got Onana people said that he is a worse shot stopper but he wouldnt make these mistakes. And for the last season I would say De Gea was demoralized by the huge criticism because he was basically played out of position and you need to adapt for a season or two to be able to play that role and he wasnt given the time.
Further edit: It seems like De Gea had his contract ran down. So the same as I suggested but the mainline of my statement was to have a gk grow into the position in time. I am saying spending 50M€ for not an improvement should be out of question for Man U. because they needed so many outfield players to fill the gaps that already exist in the team building.
It was also the exact same pass that De Gea made to Maguire against Sevilla and the deranged internet mob have been abusing and attacking Maguire ever since
Probably because De Gea did it every week, if you can be bothered to engage your brain that much I know it’s hard.
@@PullThatUpJamiethe fact is that we didn’t need a gk, you can just buy a gk and expect him to do well for a big club never really works out, you have to gradually bring him in
we should’ve bought either CB or midfielders and not mason mount
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotRewatch it. That was maguire's fault. He asked for the pass and for some reason passes it directly to En Nesyri causing the first goal. And with our fragile mentality when losing it helped hasten our downfall.
@@PullThatUpJamie He didn't do it every week, you must have damaged your brain to have that bad of a memory.
For an amateur like me this man to man marking feels a lot like Leeds when they were not able to carry Bielsa’s instructions. It’s got to be stubborn as a manager but when your team can’t press after 18 months under you, players like Rashford can’t be bothered, either change the players or change the system. When we went down to 10 men, should’ve gone back 5 and dig in for a draw and maybe a lucky counter.
0:34 "..their non-penalty xG [10.4] puts them level with West Ham, which tells us they're not creating enough chances [11th in the xG table]..." Arsenal are in 10th place for xG with 10.8 but are joint 2nd in the league table by a single point. Are Arsenal not creating enough chances? Is xG not really relevant to show in isolation without xGA?
They interestingly also play fewer fouls than the rest of the league. Considering how often they are found running behind the action this would be imperative to do though.
There are more “what is happening at Manchester United” on CZcams than wins by United this season😭
well there are hundreds if not thousands of those videos, so... yeah?
@@T.E.S.S. wym so yeah?
More like there are more statements released by Manchester United than wins this season
@@akg1301 can go either way really. But this isn’t a statement and it has no correlation so
There are more videos about what's wrong at United than there are premier league fixtures... soo whatever bud.
ETH is the master tactician that United finally deserve ❤
I honestly think Pep, Klopp, Howe would fail at Man Utd. Failing there doesn’t necessarily reflect on the manager since they don’t seem to have the required tools
@@ian-flanaganyes pep only succeeds with billions of euros
This reminds me of liverpool 20/21 where the defense was wrecked by injuries to the centre backs and liverpool played dms (fabinho and henderson) in cb spots and it just made the team imbalanced.
And rival fans went in on liverpool that season. This will go on (for man u for the whole season) unless they can salvage their season
The different is Liverpool lost player that game changing in the back like Virgil, Konate even Matip so they don't have choice but to put Mid like Henderson, Fabinho or Milner in that position, basically they lost all their first squad CB. Now see what Utd injuries list and see which player that are important enough that will change the game for the better for Man Utd ? I can't see it.
I think a lot of Liverpool rivals knew what the problems were, which is why they got bantered and why Manchester United are getting smoked by rivals as well.
@@senoalamsyah7481 only one fit fullback? Varane just coming back from injury. Licha out from a second foot surgery. But see it however you want, doubt I could reason enough to change your opinion
@@punctualwizard yeah i can't change my opinion because i can't see it. The only thing i have trust is on LB back from injuries so he can free Amrabat but will it change the game for the better it still uncertain. Maybe the manager need to start with 3 CB without FB formation than stick when it hard to work
@@senoalamsyah7481Shaw? He basically locks the left flank, and is the best progressor at the club, also our midfielder is playing lb since coming at the club
Tldr:
- played the most games last season
- 12 injuries
- using players out of position
- forced to use existing players
- new style of play with players who don’t know how to play it
- losses = low confidence
- conceding goals after scoring
Played the most games last season? City played just as much and won the Treble. And have romped the PL again from the first day of this season. Ridiculous excuses
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotHave you compared the quality of players? Man City may have played the same amount of games, but are able to rotate the squad far more without sacrificing quality. You change 2-3 players in the Man United squad and it will collapse from lack of quality
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot - the quality of the players meant we were forced to rely on players to get the expected (from the board / fans) results
@ jhpfdijtuiweruot ah yeah the most expensive squad in the history of football built by one of the best managers ever vs a frankenstein monster created by 4 different managers and overspending at every opportunity because big clubs know they will pay because they’re desperate.
Totally the same.
- ten hag buying his former player just for the nostalgia
The good thing with 4-2-3-1 out of possesion is that both your 10 can drop and the wingers can drop to help the defense. But mu doesnt really do any of that, so if their pressing gets played out, its a free road to the goal
That damn Ronado never pressing smh...
Warra world cup for penaldog 😂
He was a problem, look at how holjind is doing, but there were so many other problems
I'm just happy Ronaldo left this mess and is back to his form again now.
@@reesemccluskey1906 neither degea and ronaldo were the problems. they played in a bonkus team. Hojlund is just suffering what ronaldo suffered . scoring goals but let down by a dysfunctional team
@@reesemccluskey1906He won 5 UCLs without pressing like a headless chicken under world renowned managers. But Erik Fraud thinks pressing is more key than to score pivotal goals
The analysis is pretty spot on. I notice our inability to quickly move the ball out of the back in every game. The ball keeps moving between Onana, Lindelof, and Varane. Casemiro is always blocked by multiple players and doesn't make any movement to be in a better position to receive the ball. We need to move the ball faster and drop in more players from midfield to create an overload.
Every team that plays from the back has a DM that has good technique on the ball, being able to wriggle out of pressure. Casemiro doesn't have that, which is why he doesn't scan around him that much. It also seems like he has lost his legs. I have a feeling he would have been dropped a while back if we didn't have the injuries we have - Mainoo would've come in and played in a double pivot with Amrabat. We'd have more legs and energy in midfield. Cas seems slow to react to danger, much like Fred and Scot.
Varane, Lindelof, Dalot, and Casemiro arent technical enough to play out of the back. United needed to bring in someone like Minjae and Pavard, its going to take a couple more transfer windows to fully revamp the squad.
Just a thought midway through the Onana kick map but I think it would help to put up numbers to accompany a pass map like this so you can show % of successful long balls v short balls when that's essentially what's being discussed
So I mostly hear that the system isn't bad (defensively at least), it's the players that either don't track back, sit around freely or don't have enough confidence to commit to chances created. The biggest criticizism I can do to Ten Hag is that he should probably be a bit more flexible with tactics because transition and long passes has never been a good way to attack a low block, like ever.
This is like the 4th or 5th what's wrong with United video this season. Oh to be a United fan 😢
Can you send in your CV to Carrington please. Maybe present the game breakdowns to the players twice a week, that should do it.
No need. They should be smart and humble enough to find videos like this on CZcams for free
Great analysis but I do believe with a full strength team it will be more effective. 3 first team defenders are out that would be a miss for a lot of teams.
Do you think Amrabat would be the CDM protecting the backline with Casemiro further forward?
Great video. I'd love to see this analysis of what Arteta was trying to achieve in his first few seasons at Arsenal to illustrate how long it takes for a system to evolve and players to learn how to play. Utd are in transition. Yes, it's ugly, but Ten Hag us trying to create a way of playing. It won't happen overnight.
JJ said it takes one player to screw up, the problem will cascade. So the one who makes the first error should quickly react to recover and take on his man. Our front 3 don't seem to do that, except for Garnacho and Antony when they play.
True, when Antony plays we seem as a team to be much more compact.
not even the notif gang is this fast
That was a great in-depth analysis. Thank you got that!
The tactics board setup. Does it have a function to select all or a select a group of players on the same team? I think that function would be nice when you explain counters and transitions. Just a thought.
New system didn’t work first two games, everyone proceeded to get injured, now we’re playing decently again but can’t finish our chances and keep making errors in defense.
Pretty crap start the the year, but I think we’ll turn it around, only problem is we’ve dig too deep s hole for top 3 or success in the UCL imo.
"now we’re playing decently again"
Lol. Clearly you live in a different universe to the rest of us
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot You're on every comment saying something negative. Bit sad.
@@CoconutJewce Lol. The Moderator wants me to stop typing my thoughts out on social media because my words made him cry
Galatasaray were the easiest and most open team ever to create chances against and you scored 2.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotClearly you have no real understanding of football. Or nuance. They're playing good football but inconsistently, and in spurts. Individual mistakes are costing them.
Considering all the injuries and the spine of the team being new players, not unreasonable to think they'll improve with time and players coming back. Martinez and Shaw alone will make a huge difference.
u can’t break up a defence and bring a brand new gk in and just drop him in there, he need to be gradually brought in
de gea did not to get yet, we should’ve used that 50 mil on a new midfielder or defender he did need to move but not yet
As a depressed Man United fan I was hoping this video would tell me not to worry and why everything will be fine once we have our players back. But turns out knowing exactly what on earth is happening at Man Utd makes you even more depressed.
Love this video 👏🏻👏🏻 well explained ♥️
damn yall nabbed HITC7's series title lmao
I thought that I wanted HITC7. I got JJ. Not sure if I am disappointed
The fact Joel Glazer didn’t come on and score an overhead kick from the halfway line just tells you everything you need to know about the ownership.
Never have I seen another club that brings out the ownership to the light at every chance. The club politics should be invisible on the pitch and among discussions regarding the team.
Yawn. The owners of a football club are 100% responsible for the club. Your copy and paste meme is embarrassing
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Maybe they just need to spend another couple hundred million and the players will stop being arrogant pricks or domestic abusers - who knows?
@@enemywithin1295 what a bizarre comment
This is elite analysis, very nicely done.
Can you compare this to how Ajax were playing under Ten Hag. I want to see if it’s a player personnel problem or if he changed his tactics to something that doesn’t work so we know if the blame lies on the players or on the manager/tactics
The Dutch league has at most 4 good teams.
West Ham won the Conference League.
The likes of Bournemouth spend more than top 4 teams in most leagues
I know that it's "dunk on Utd" season again. But we've been really close in most games this season - a few decisions/moments go the other way, and we're looking good for the season
They all love Dunk on United season… more hits, more views, more traction, more pressure… our manager gets sacked, we get a temp manager for 6 months, hire a new big name to steer the ship and rinse and repeat for another 18 months…
I see the cycle, media doesn’t help us at all. If you have the largest fan base it pays to take the piss unfortunately. Won’t be fixed until glazers piss off. Could you imagine being an “elite team” when your training facilities and home ground is crumbling, we have Wolves level facilities and Real Madrid pressure.
Dunk on Utd? We are tenth in the league with a minus goal difference and rock bottom of our CL group below Copenhagen. Lol
@@scottlinton6577 100% accurate. Arguably the best take I have seen on Utd. Real Madrid level expectation with championship level infrastructure.
I think they would be better as a counter-attacking team. Playing as a defensive 7 man block and 3 upfront just loitering. Also they need a decent keeper.
Yeah, that's in the Man United spirit, stick to basics. That's what gets the fans going too.
Well said
Well said let’s go back to basics we need to or just going to go backwards every week
Man United have been a counter attacking team for the past few seasons. Ten Hag by his signings is trying to change that. Losing a world class shot stopper in De Gea and exchanging that with Onana who is all about passing..idk man I feel like United are in this weird middle ground where they can't thrive at anything
@Erik Ten Hag could you change the tactics until everyone is fit, thanks.
I personally prefer united to play 3-5-2/5-3-2 (depends on perspective) especially right now, The arsenal analysis is a perfect example if we change hannibal to a LWB casemiro would be able to stay central and we would still have 5 on the defensive line which will allow Dalot to press. With this I guarantee as well that we would not have conceded those Brighton goals. I feel we are putting an unnecessary man in that attack especially if we're playing long balls both Rasmus and Rashy alone can break opposition's line easily without the extra man in the middle.
Losing posession from the GK attempting long passes that often is a shambles.
There's at least 100 teams in Europe with better ball usage than Manchester United. This goes back to the Mourinho era. We seem to hire managers who are stuck in the pre-Pepcelona era. How ten Hag managed to fall into that category is just our luck. He's otherwise also a very poor decision maker. The Antony signing at 80m seemed absurd to everyone at Ajax except him, he also bought Onana because he wanted to play out the back but still lets Casemiro spam long wasteful ball(he got rid of a shotstopper in goal for what exactly?)
One could argue that at any modern football club, the manager isn't the one who has total control over transfers. Why is it at United that things are different ?
@@FieldTestedSemenKun The manager should never have total controll over transfers. And ten hag is a good example of why. He got almost every palyer he wanted and they can´t play his style of football. His talent ID and profiling ability is non existent.
brilliant video!
Painful and enlightening, God bless buddy! Great vid 🏎️
I think the Rashford to Fernandes pass is clearly the correct decision executed wrong. Executing that pass was significantly easier than finishing the chance and would have lead to a tap in - he just fucked it up
He's made that 1v1 plenty of times before. He clearly has confidence issues and has probably been told to look for passes more often (since he's so selfish most of the time). It was the wrong decision to not shoot.
@@CoconutJewce Lol. You appear to be in multiple threads making negative comments about Man Utd players. The very same thing that you falsely accused me of doing. Projecting much?
I agree, theres nothing wrong with squaring the pass to have an easier shot at goal, the problem was the pass was terrible.
@@CoconutJewce just because you've done something plenty of times before (he's also missed chances like that plenty of times before, as have most attackers) doesn't mean it's not easier to square a ball 10 yards
Choosing to pass was better, just lazy execution
Hopefully it’s a matter of getting fit and in form. The tactics Ten Hag used against Brighton, for example, were similar to how Villa went about playing them. Very different results, but point stands.
Ten Hag went with 41212 diamond formation pressing with no wingers and De Zerbie adjusted his the CBs to go wider. Aston Villa went with 4231 pulled down the line. So I don't get what you mean by 'same tactics'.
@@msfklfl123 41212 diamond? what are u smoking thats not a formation 😹 they both played a 442 diamond to shut down their 6 man buildup shape centrally, but what AEK athens and Villa did was have a better plan and execution for when the ball inevitably made it down the wings into midfield
Getting fit and in form? That's what pre-season is for. Lol
its a matter of getting rid of ten hag and replacing him with someone who knows what hes doing
@@ultimateblaze23 when you have 5 different managers and the same problems, you dont sack the manager lol. lets start with the owners and the sporting director
Stats aside looking at the matches you can clearly see that the CBs seem to press forwards leaving huge holes behind. And when they dont press nobody tracks runners at DMF position.
It’s all correct but fundamentally I’d say 2 things:
1. United’s midfield is being over worked because the back 4 aren’t the first top 4. When you had Varane and Martinez with Shaw they were comfortable and on it enough to direct the midfielders. Now we have midfielders playing in defence, trying to do too many things. The midfielders are having to do a lot of pressing up the field and then when the lines are broken they’re having to track back out of position to help the defence. That’s why they are getting tired and stretched all over. More tiredness, more stretchedness.
2. We are creating chances but players like Rashford are picking the wrong option a lot. He’s been trying to dribble through 2/3 players sometimes where he could square it (signalling in a non chance created- but it would have been one if he squared it) or he shoots from far out when he shouldn’t. Rashford seems to square it (prior to his last two games) only when it’s the last option, when pushed very far wide. When Rashford does a wingers job and pulls full backs wide, and squares it we score. Like vrs Gala. Arsenal do this well. Wingers pull full backs wide, meaning stretching the back 4, square ir to the D, and Odegaard or Saka get on the end and score. We don’t, we either dribble and lose the ball or shoot and lose the ball, they have a goal kick - we start having to “work again” at breaking their play up. Meaning we get tired running after the ball, midfielders stretched again, and so on it goes.
Please make a 3-step plan for Erik to fix us 😭
It's a 2-step plan:
1) Glazers
2) Out
I’ve really hated watching them play this transitional style of football. It sounded like a bad idea, it’s been ugly and it’s useless when you’re playing against teams that can defend. I wonder how long before ETH has to change.
It's all a bit Sam Allardyce.
Lump it up to Kevin Davies and hope Nolan, Okocha or Stelios pick up on the rebound.
@@luckyspursAt least those players had the ball sense to make the right decisions sometimes. United players just can't do the right thing
Thank you for breaking this down. The weaknesses are so obvious, and finally we see ten haag’s system and it stinks.. the tactics are the problem
Both the confidence and hunger matters. As mentioned in video, the press is not one unit, tension is not there, man to man press need to be one unit and aggressive. It’s like the liverpool last season, front line press lost its intensity, middle field cannot held, then dropped defence leaves too much space.
The Glazers are thinking about selling. So they are running the club on life support. The squad is filled with free transfers and loans and overinflated academy players. And they then complete a few token signings like Mount across multi year deals that have very little impact on the day to day cash flow. It's very simple and obvious what's going on for anyone who understands how the football industry works
You realize the Glazers and other venture capitalists have nothing to do with day-to-day operations, right? Right? Rigggghhttt?
All your players cost fuckin mental amounts. Anthony, casemeiro, mount, Hojlund, Onana... wtf are you talking about?
@@patientswim6888 Yes, the Glazers pay ridiculously overinflated sums and wagesfor the players that they do buy and spread the payments out across multiple years so that they can bulk out the balance sheet and fund transfers from cash flow (fan money). Just like I said. It's one of the strategies they used to increase the value of the club by billions. Anything else I can help you with?
Half your team cost over £50 million.
@@luckyspurs Yes, the squad is bloated out with overinflated transfer fees /wages that are spread out over long contracts. Just like I said. What's your point? Which part of my comment are you struggling to process?
Go get the green and yellow Norwich scarves out lads
Green Bay Packers*
7:50 Technically, you have to have the whole team shift to the right side of the field, forcing them to have to either pass back or switch play to the other side. If the team is not shifting over (e.g., Mount 8:25), then the players are not doing what they are supposed to do, and it isn't exactly Ten Hag's tactics that are the problem.
We didn’t have a proper start just like last year. Drama and injuries. From here on we can focus on the football and I’m already seeing better football than before. There’s potential here. Watch.
In what way was Galatasaray better without the ball?
With the ball, you looked decent against them, but Galatasaray are a really open team that sort of invites anyone to look good in attack against them.
@@luckyspurstheir press was way more cohesive and ferocious than us
Good point! I think we need a few games defending and pressing from a 4-5-1 or 4-4-2 mid-block structure. The high press cannot work because we don't have the pace in defence to push the defensive line into the opposition half and compact the space that way. The back four need more protection because too many players are out and they get exposed every week, then the midfielders get exposed because they have such a massive zone to cover.
If Fernandes doesn’t track imagine the other side of the field
Geniunely insane stat: the player who has registered the most assists in a single game at Old Trafford this season? Davison Sanchez with 2 for Galatassary.
10:58 in Casimero's defence, it's not exactly a trap I would say, as to the reason he has stepped up to the defender, but is rather due to Mitoma being such a threat that you have to try to prevent his receiving the ball. This is why McTominay is looking for a chance to intercept or to double-team Mitoma. Mitoma is too good to allow a 1v1 situation. So Casimero has stepped up to try to allow McTominay the ability to help mark-out Mitoma.
Ten HAgs wants to play a certain way but then his handpicked targets can´t play that way. That is incredibly funny.
He wants to play possession but the team gives better result on counters. He can't seem to strike up a balance between both. He's not known as a master tactician anyway
they need word class ball playing defenders and deep lying playmakers, which ten hag just refuse to buy and spend the money on signings that should be made way later than rn
If you watched the game, you’d see that the pieces are slowly coming together.
@@duyanhng8430 You´re spot on. The only consitently good ball playing defender they have really is Martinez. But the rest aren´t up to par except maybe Shaw. Neither is the defence strong enough to compensate for Onanas slippery hands. Ten Hag apaprently wnted De Jong as the deep playmaker as well. Which is a good profile for what they need, but he was unattainable (obviously) and they wasted time on that front. And now he has brought in a completly different profile in Amrabat who is just a worse version of Casemiro. Then they bought Mount who is a worse version of Bruno. So Ten Hag has either not brought in what he needed for his style of play, or he has brought in players simillar to what he already has but not as good.
@@wespicedmemes How is that? The pieces are either mismatched for what´s needed or just not up to par.
Other than the tactical problems out of possession it is also a problem that some of the Man Utd player just do not have the athleticism and/ or willingness to cover distances and press agressively.
I think this is key. They are all good players but they look so «stale».
This is not down to the individual players, it's down to how much ground they're being asked to cover and in an intense way. I don't think many players in world football could cover these distances. It's tactical, manager instructions that's killing them amongst other things.
@@grobocop2213 It is partly down to individual players as well imo. Of course you are right that there are also tactical issues and spaces become to big. But even in tighter spaces it matters that these players are not explosive enough to be on top of things, they are just way to easy to bypass. Then the backbone starts dropping of and distances explode.
Best piece of analysis JJ Bull has presented on this channel imo. Utd's lack of structure, coordination and cohesion in rest defence is so blatantly obvious that it should be included in coaching textbooks in UEFA pro license curricula.
What do other teams which play in similar systems do differently to solve the issues Manchester United are making for themselves?
Nothing matters anyway
Ok Albert Camus
I miss the butcher! He was the key for our good momentum last season. We need our leader back
Really?? The Butcher who was present in all the disastrous losses last season? 4 against Brentford, six versus City, seven versus Liverpool, four against Villa? Before getting injured- I think not 😢
he be only back in december and by then man utd will be fighting relegation
Martinez is officially and undeniably one of the worst CBs to ever play for Utd. He has been an unmitigated disaster in the EPL. What have you been watching? Lol
@@kobidebee2621it came out this week he was playing with a broken foot at the start of the season so…
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotYou clearly didn't watch much of last season. Pipe down.
I think transition or counter attacking tactics are hard because u get fewer chances and also more pressure on u to make the right choice when u break, because if ur too slow then theres no point of the break cuz everyone is back now. But when ur ange or pep, u press high and keep trying to get thru low block and theres less pressure because u create more chances
would love to see a breakdown of what Roy Hodgson is doing to make Palace perform so well with such a thin squad
park the bus
Frankly I think ajanalysis has the best takes on this.
Erik Ten Hag is definitely the right man for the job, but it's going to be impossible for Utd to achieve success when City and Liverpool are investing in the latest technologies and have better facilities, and even if they do have success it won't last long, as long as the Glazers are still in charge. Do you remember what CR7 said, the glazer never visit the club. Meanwhile City, Tottenham, Newcastle and even Chelsea's owner constantly work on investing in the club. If our club was anywhere as good as Ajax at recruiting players we'd be challenging Liverpool and City by now.
Factos
Excuses, excuses. They're not good because the massive amount of money those meany greedy owners have given the manager have been squandered by him.
He buys poor players, for way over the price they should be bought because he knows them from his time at Ajax problem is that for ever RVP or Ruud they comes from that league there is an Alvarez or Kezman. The team seem oblivious of what they are supposed to do and that is all in the manager. As for injuries not having it, when Liverpool had 4CBs out and the midfielder covering at CB all at the same time they were told get over it
I like Eric, but he makes very stupid decisions sometimes.
He's been responsible for every loss this season imo
The glazers don't play in the team or manage the team tactics. Ten Haag is the problem atm
I've been out of the loop with football due to my time zone but isn't tenhag meant to be a tactical genius? Why hasn't his approach changed already it's quite a few games into the season and it's clearly not working. I see two reasons for this, first the quality in defense isn't there and more importantly everyone is doing the same thing to break their lines. It doesn't matter how good you are if the opposing team knows your next step.
Remember when Dalot was the future of FBs? And Onana was the savior of Man Utd bc he is the greatest GK of all time? How do they keep bringing in good players and yet no matter who is the manager, there is no desire to hustle.
Theyre missing 3 of their first choice defenders, and have 3 signings who are still injured and only just came back, they also have a Bruno, who does everything he can to give the ball away every time he gets it. Literally no control
Even as man city fan im feeling bad for them its not embarrassing anymore its just sad
Onana makes so many mistakes trying to save shots. Rashford, Fernandes, Casemiro, Eriksen, McTominay, Maguire is on too high and too long of a contract to listen to their manager and actually press the opponent. When the tough gets going they'll eventually throw Ten Hag under the bus like they did Mourinho, like they did Ole, like they did Rangnick. Like JJ said nothing changes because the players motivation/determination doesn't change, yet they're all on 100k p/w wages with 5 year deals. It won't matter even if we have Qatari owners, unless we have a Director of Football to actually stick with a football philosophy for more than 2 seasons and not giving Rashford 350k a week on a 5 year deal after 1 30 goal season we won't get any better. Sorry for rambling, this club is pretty bad from top to bottom yet they're too big to fail. We're just a banter club with too much money. 👍🏼✌🏽
Except pretty much every time Maguire has played for Ten Hag, we have won comfortably with lots of clean sheets and lots of goals scored.
Excellent analysis best I've seen of united all season
So it is just 2 small issues.
1. They are not good out of possession
2. They are not good in possession.
Simple.
During the dark days during which Steve Bruce was in charge of Newcastle I saw an analysis show on which Eddie Howe, of all people, at that time unemployed, explain why Newcastle's tactics in the previous few matches were naive, primarily because he was playing a 442 diamond. Now, it was a particularly strange 442 diamond in which he had the strikers split so that we had strikers playing on the wing, central midfielders playing as strikers and wingers playing fullback...it still makes me cringe to remember it. The main point of the analysis was this....442 diamond was a formation that he, Eddie Howe, would only use for brief intervals during a match when one needed to try and take control of the midfield, but that he'd never start in it, especially not for several games in a row as Bruce just had, culminating in an awful loss to Chelsea which they used to graphically aid his analysis, because the formation has some obvious inherent weaknesses for the opponent to exploit. Mainly the fact that our fullbacks were easily doubled up on in wide areas forcing midfielders to waste energy going out and in all match in a vain attempt to cover them.
How nice to see the current Man U boss has seemingly the same tactical nouse as their club icon Steve Bruce. Perhaps he should be their next boss. :)
Ten Hag just can't manage big stars. The players respect him out of fear, not the other way around. That would end with a few more losses too. I don't think there's an immediate solution, United will have to suffer.
There isn't one star in the entire Utd squad. What are you talking about? Lol
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot what does that even mean?
@@manwhoasked5942 Which specific part are you struggling to process? Did you forget what you said already in your original comment? Lol
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot I am perfectly aware of what I said.
@@manwhoasked5942 Ok, so why do you not understand my relevant and extremely easy to understand comment? Which words do you not know the meaning of? I want to help you here. I really do...
Yes they are bad 😞😞😞😞 thanks for pointing out. Hope ten hag sees what you see. Not sure why he didn’t until so many games are done this season.
This whole channel would be 10x better if you could use videos of events from matches instead of just freeze frames. I'm sure it's a legal thing to do with copyright and it must be very expensive, but if the Athletic could work out a deal where the PL allows them to use short clips I think it would increase the views on these videos significantly.
People just dont want to accept that Ten Hag isnt a good manager and never will be
Put him in a well run system like Brighton and he'll shine. Man Utd don't have a proper director of football, horrible scouting and terrible negotiators. Only 4 of 40+ coaches in the club were brought in by Ten Hag and the owners don't spend a cent on the club and let the stadium disintegrate. I can guarantee you not even Klopp, Pep or Ziadane would be able to perform with those conditions. Even as a neutral towards Man Utd, I'm able to see it so why can't you?
Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ragnick, Ten Hag, there's a pattern with these managers.
Now go check out these managers after Utd, and find another pattern.
If you notice these patterns, you might have just realized, it's more of a club issue.
Couple good examples in the above comments 😂😂
No Antony, No chance
as a United fan i really hated u until about the 16:50 mark. U made a ton of sense for all the craziness going on at my club. Hopefully soon you can make a video showing us how they corrected their issues and get on a win streak.
Gets more painful with every year... the glory days are well and truly gone