Why Man Utd were so bad against Wolves
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Manchester United kicked off their Premier League campaign with a win against Wolverhampton Wanderers, but their performance left little to be desired.
Wolves had much of the play, created more and better chances, and could have come away with a point had it not been for a VAR decision that PGMOL have subsequently apologised for.
But why were Man Utd so bad? What were they doing wrong? JJ Bull explains.
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Briliant tactical play by O'Neil and Wolves. As United supporter, even though we won, it still feels like a loss. We were just so bad. At times it felt like a game of 9 v 13.
You mean 12 v 11, cos United always lines up with the refs on their side
Agreed and very concerned when we face spurs. Whether hojlund is fit or not the problem is still very huge.
Probably dalot will start ahead of awb but still really concerned about the build up and initial press
This is very true, it really feels like a loss and even more now with the penalty issue taking all the headlines today 😂 Beautiful goal but worst 3 points I have seen in a while.
@@midknight bored of reading this rubbish now.
Well he's right.@@diskopartizan0850
Another thing I have noticed is that Wolves players are physically more active than Man utd players or man utd players are too afraid to go into tussle
"that's their job" ~Keane (circa always)
Wolves looked so sharp with their ball carrying abilities and athleticism. United looked slow comparatively.
@@chinaman1 but they(man utd) weren't doing it
@@areeedan2889 I was talking about wolves. They were doing it.
@@areeedan2889 I was talking about wolves. They were doing it.
The highlights were so one sided. Onana got me 9 points in FPL though.
Should’ve conceded 3 and given away a pen
@@austinlatta9278He didn't though.
Amen
@@austinlatta9278you know a gk is good when people say he should have conceded 😂😂😂😂
So was the game....
Gary O'Neil is managing to squeeze PL-level performances out of teams that two "top" managers in Parker and Lopetegui didn't think had anything in them. Earning himself a lot of admirers.
Parker is a top manager…😂😂😂
Lopetegui did pretty well tho
@@zacharylow8132 yea Lopetegui is top but Parker is not top not even near
@@Zidanes_Hairline I think they mean it was something perpetuated by media that Parker was a top manager for Bournemouth, I don't think he was as bad as the results suggested but as always the media tend to hype people up a bit bit too much
PL level performances? Firstly they are a PL club, anything they do is a PL level performance, and secondly he's had one game with them?
I don’t agree with everyone saying, “We got the 3 points and that’s what matters.” Yes and no. The problem is we had waaaay too many of those last season. The underlying numbers show it’s not sustainable.
£969 million debt isn’t sustainable either
I think anybody expecting utd to be world beaters this season and from the get go are delusional. Ten Haag is building something, it's not built. So I will happily take 3 points and play bad.
United finished 3rd after Pep and Arteta who are way further in their project
Top four again this season would be as big of an achievement as winning the league in the Ferguson era. United fans need to brace themselves for numerous underwhelming performances this season.
@@CallMehXiLeits the same bs we said during ole era....
The way Cunha just ran through United felt really strange to see in top flight football. its such a rarity to see someone just torch through the centre of midfield and defence like that.
It was even stranger when he did it again in the same game. Wolves aren't far off being a great team.
If Wolves weren't limited by FFP and could sign a player or two they would be such a threat.
It was astonishing. Almost like school kid stuff.
The 2 Matheus were running around the midfield with ease
@@ConorDoesItAllthey need a decent striker
I disagree.
United just aren’t a team.
Just a collection of overrated egos.
Wolves knew all the players moves.
I won’t even name them it’s that obvious.
Wolves's dribbling from deep through the high press was an absolute killer
It was frightening we played like a Sunday league team........that cunha was basically skipping through our centre midfield we need amrabat like right now and a strong mobile box to box like thuram
Yet we still won the match. Didn't kill much 🤷
@@jasongoodwin7654killed the midfield that’s for sure
@@jasongoodwin7654 Look at the title of the video
@@jasongoodwin7654because wolves can't finish, that's it
This is excellent analysis but 'a cross from Wan Bissaka is not really a threat' is a funny line considering he had the winning assist
outlier really, hes just not a good crosser of the ball
disagree, he is a pretty good crosser@@clairofan01
@@clairofan01 worked more than anything wolves did though, so did their tactic work??
his earlier cross literally led to the handball claim
Bruno's pass was the reason to his success. that was a regular pass from Bisakka
I find it hilarious that I watch former professional footballers more so for their comedic and downright awful takes on football and random dudes I've grown to trust for the insight that actually matters 😂, thank you Tifo!
But Tifo commercialized their videos to the extent where it feels like a tiktok rather than serious analysis. JJ's awful wording and lack of belief in his own opinions doesn't help either
@@haimainjauo242 personally JJ is brilliant to me. I guess we all have our preferences.
Agreed, a brilliant analysis delivered with a great sense of humor. He makes it look easy but it's not. Immediately subscribed. Onana powerhugging players in the box". love it🤣
That is pretty wild init
@@haimainjauo242 Well, being on CZcams, they have to be fun to watch. That's the key. I think they've found a healthy balance. It's technical enough, with just enough silliness to have flavour
Because it doesn’t matter how badly you play against Wolves, everybody gets at least a point from us because we literally never ever score.
You nearly score a lot of goals though. That has to be exciting right?
@@mctrials23Yeah thats why adama made it much more exciting but im excited to see how it plays out with gary o neil
sadly have to agree with you - utterly blunt in front of goal
That’s the issue
Sell ya balogun for 50 mill if you do the double over citeh :)
Without being a big football knowhow man, to me the GLARING issue was the midfield. As a Chelsea fan I just never got why they signed mason mount. He’s not good enough on the ball to dictate tempo and control possession to free up Bruno. You’ve basically got 2 8’s with poor ball retention who thrive playing transition ball being covered by a single ageing pivot that can still cover ground and win duels but is not good enough on the ball to make up for the deficiencies of the 8’s. He’s also just one guy who will only get less and less mobile. When you have 2 8’s that want to run around high up the pitch in free roles you basically need Rodri. He was left exposed and just run past. It feels like United don’t truly know what they want to be. If they want to be a possession team that plays out the back with players like Onana and Martinez then you don’t buy mount (you basically buy a younger Eriksen). If you want to use Mount Casemiro Bruno as a midfield then you cannot play high possession football. They need to decide on what they actually want to do
Finally a rival fan with great analysis. As a united fan i never liked the purchase for the exact same reason, wasnt even moved when he signed cos i was confused as fo why we bought him
Ten Hag said he wanted his team to be the best transition team in the world. Mount signing makes sense from that perspective.
Ten Hag recognised that United’s problems would be solved by finally replacing Jesse Lingard.
Good analysis mate and agreed. Bit of an identity crisis at the moment with the playing style. I think Ten Hag thinks Mount can somehow play an De Jong type role, whereby he comes deep to collect and progress the ball. It won't work, he's not that type of player at least from what I've seen. He's more similar to Fernandes
Fair analysis. Ten hag dropped a clanger with that mount signing and might well have to do a walk of shame. This is what happens when a club is devoid of DOF who can challenge the manager. This is not a good look cos everyone could see this
Man U doesn't have natural center forwards or central midfielders. They use attacking midfielders on the CM position and a winger as CF. It's really no mystery why it's not working out.
Wolves don't have a centres-forward either, that's not a valid point to make, it is just tactical Ten Hag was outclass last night
rsahford scored plenty o goals in that CF position tho
What exactly makes a CM or a CF? The position you played in youth football? You are positioned based on traits you possess and not some label that says “CM” slammed on top your forehead
The midfield is exactly the same as last season though, except they've swapped Mount (a player with very high work rate and energy) in for Eriksen (who for all his qualities isn't as energetic as Mount). It worked for most of last season, why should it be any different here?
For me, the answer is that Casemiro is showing signs of his age, but most United fans probably wouldn't agree with that
They do have a natural CF, he just isn’t fit to play yet. Hojlund coming into midfield as he does to help out the play will naturally push one of Mount or Fernandes back to help Casemiro more.
We were equally as bad as the 4-0 defeat to Brentford…Wolves let us off the hook. Alarm bells!
and we had onana on steroids too
Fascinating seeing Antony going for the pass instead of the shot a couple of times throughout the game, positive signs from him whenever he found himself on the ball. Sancho looked fantastic when he came on, hoping this season can get him back to his best
Yes, Sancho is looking great: composed, quick, working hard in attack and defense.
Sancho looked good, but he sorely missed someone to link up with. Whenever Sancho passes to Rashford, there is never a clever pass back. The ball stops at Rashford.
Antony and Sancho need to play together more. People rag on Antony so much, but he was one of the only players who looked remotely like doing anything last night.
Sancho and Antony.
Yeah, and I distinctly remember Antony cutting on his right one time (literally only one time lol) and even the commentary pointed it out. He has it in him and is clearly being told to work on it. Also, I genuinely think having a striker will help him a ton. Him and Haller were brilliant together at Ajax, and that's probably why ETH bought him. We just haven't had a proper striker since he's been here.
Anthony will never be good enough as a winger, to get the best out of him he needs to be moved centrally. Think Juan Mata or even David Silva, both were wingers at one point but their managers quickly worked out they didn’t have the physical attributes to play as wingers in the PL and moved them into more central positions.
It had a bit of the tactical stubbornness about it that cost United early last season. It was obvious after the first few minutes that Wolves had come up with a plan to nullify the way United were trying to play, but instead of changing and trying something different (i.e, keeping Mount or Bruno deeper and Shaw staying wide), they persisted with it for far longer than they should have and struggled offensively and defensively as a result. I have no doubt that the system can work in theory, but when the players aren't confident enough to play it properly or the other team is set up perfectly against it, you have to make adjustments.
Playing Mount alongside Fernandes seems not to work. Ik it's just their first game but both are very highly technically good players, so hence both want to attack. If we play them against Tottenham it's suicide. I'd rather have slower but more balanced Christian Ericksen. GGMU!!
Unless spurs get semone like gift orban they wont do too much damage against united. But city, arsenal, liverpool eating tho
Eriksen is more technical than both of them
Mount = Average
@technow1355 Mount is overrated because people rated him as a "hard working midfielder". No one rated him as a midfielder with certain technical prowess.
Eriksen is not balanced. He's a deep lying playmaker who's deteriorating physically with every week that passes. All our big games last season were lost because Eriksen is too old to run the whole match (see Saka 1-1 goal at the Emirates for example). I think the issue with Mount is he's still low on confidence. I'm really sure it'll work out in the end. Mount and Bruno haven't played many minutes together yet, it takes time, but it'll work. Especially if we sign another midfielder.
Also, we had way bigger problems than Mount yesterday. Everyone's passing was off and nobody showed any bravery. We'll improve, for sure.
Playing a midfield of Mount, Fernandes and Casemiro is insane
Mount and Bruno as Number 8's just doesn't work. Casemiro was left exposed whenever wolves were in transition with both Mount and Bruno pushing up the field. For all Casemiro's defensive strength he is not a technician , Someone who can take the ball off the goalkeeper and carry it further up the field for Bruno or find line breaking passes every time. This is the reason Ten hag persisted so much to sign Frankie de Jong because he is the ideal player for that in his tactical system.
@@technow1355 football???
Good job neither played as a number 8 then...
Mainoo 😢
@@bismarkkwadzo5968mainoo actually was good at this before he got injured. Press resistant, good passer, and dropped very deep to receive the ball
They should try Scott before Amrabat comes
I love how you said "It's Wan Bissaka, it's not a threat" about his crossing, and he still managed to get the winning assist
Hilariously ironic. Nice coaching for allowing the player with 'no threat' to provide the assist to win the game!
“The winning assist.” Wow. 1-0 against wolves. Amazing.
That’s about the only notable thing he’s done in a United shirt in what, 4 years. Boys a fraud living on easy street. Shambolic signing.
feels like he has some hidden agenda towards AWB, why didn't he talk about other players who are clearly underperforming as well
@@shudupassdid you not hear him talk about Anthony
To be fair my nan could’ve got that assist because of that great ball by Fernandes. AWB was pretty bad all game
O’Neil has something about him
Think Bournemouth might have made a mistake that could prove Wolves savior
It may not even be a mistake as much as a shrewd business decision that works out for both parties in the long run. I think Iraola will be good for Bournemouth, but O'Neil could just genuinely be good in general and Wolves will be better for it.
@@williamstallings2228 I agree tbf mate I think Bournemouth will do fine,
I just think that they’d have done just as well with O’Neil
it's 1 game so far. we'll see how it goes, too early to tell anything. Maybe Wolves will finish bottom
I cannot remember how many times cunha ran from his box to our box freely in the centre of the field , I was shocked how we let him make those runs with the ball so many times.
The insistence to play a box midfield meant that United lacked Shaws threat and support down the left on the Overlap. Meant that Garnacho was nullified.
Also didn’t help that Garnacho played like prime Andros Townsend
Garnacho nullified himself yesterday lol, nothing to do with the team
You're not wrong, but Garnacho has shown the ability to make things happen by himself. He did nothing right yesterday. That's mostly on him. Hopefully it's just the nerves of finally starting and won't be a consistent theme.
Ten hag trying way too hard to copy pep. He should use the strengths of his team. Also doesn't help when he's buying players with the profile of mount instead of pep players.
@CoconutJewce he's trying to do things that are way too complicated. His game is better when simple. Run at defenders, pass and go, shoot and score. That's all. No stopovers and fancy tricks. Not his game
This is exactly the type of match De Gea would have held on to the ball too long and made an error leading to a goal.
Would've been like 4-0 lol.
Onana gave a penalty away tbf
@@TonyTynebridgeexcept he didn’t
Baby steps, boys, baby steps!
@@mrlace4776he did, it just wasn't given, the refs have been suspended for incompetence
Fair tactical analysis, especially on how their midfield setup destroyed Casemiro (get Amrabat in immediately pls), but it really comes down to how the individual players performed. Garnacho was abysmal with everything he did, Rashford was a ghost (tbf, not a striker), I didn't even know Mount was playing, Bruno wasn't creating anything, Antony wasn't doing anything, and our entire defense looked uncharacteristically shaky. When Sancho and Eriksen come on as subs and look like the only bright spots, you know your whole team played terribly. And, also, Wolves looked very solid and played much, much better and as a cohesive unit. If this was City or Arsenal or Liverpool or Newcastle or Brighton, this would've been another 7-0 game.
Two things that can't happen/don't work: Rashford as the 9 and Mount/Bruno both trying to do the same thing. Hopefully Hojlund will alleviate the 9 problem, but ETH really needs to figure out the Mount and Bruno situation.
I get the tactical problem but it won’t be this worst if our player can pass a 5 yds ball w/o losing it. Mount need time to adapt with the team but Garnacho is a real disappointment yesterday.
Thanks for this video! I'm a middle aged Wolves fan in Japan and with the game kicking off at 4am here, which is a struggle for me, watching it felt a bit like a weird dream. The bits where Cunha dribbled through half the Man U team reminded me a bit of Captain Tsubasa. I love Cunha to bits, but that's not normal, is it? Wolves next game is Brighton, and I can't imagine that sort of thing happening next week...
Wolves had 23 shots. The way they easily get past Utd's midfield is kind of a joke tbh.
What midfield....?!
Damn! Wolves already gave the blueprint to beat United to everyone else since the first game. Ten Hag has to react fast
That's not how football works.
Ya play the same blueprint.
Ohh yaa so finally I can beat Manunited as a manager
Tbf last season you couldnt do this cuz they had eriksen. Arsenal and many teams tried it but Eriksen can play through the lines. They still have him but play less mins imo.
@@Matthews_Dintweyes it is, brentford literally play the same game as brighton in opening last season and destroy man u
I’ve just realised that Pep’s influence on the game can be used as a weapon. The fact that the top teams now feel they have to play with a box midfield, even if it’s for the worst. Liverpool are doing it with Trent and United tried last night.
The insistence to play a box midfield meant that United lacked Shaws threat and support down the left on the Overlap because he was inverting to form the double pivot with Casemiro. Meant that Garnacho was nullified on his own on the left.
And you already know that Pep will already be cooking up a new way of playing to counter his own play style.
Evil genius
lol pep has 115 answers
Pep is like Rowdy Roddy Piper, when you think you have the answers, he changes the question... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You're right about the box midfield becoming more common now so teams know how to deal with it. However, ten Hag was actually using it last season before Pep did it with Stones. Eriksen played next to and sometimes behind Casemiro (which is how he scored all those goals) and Martial/Weghorst dropped next to Bruno. The problem is Rashford has non existent hold up play and pulling Shaw in leaves Garnacho all alone on the left which he's too young/weak for. I think Sancho looked good because he can play quick passes before he's closed down, even though sometimes it doesn't come off.
@@rishirajbose2444 I guess it all depends on who is stepping out of position to create the Box. City struggled at first when Bernardo was playing RB and coming into midfield. It’s only when Stones started doing it that everything clicked for them.
Man United went with the "What is a midfield" approach
It’s called the “False Midfield” and its perfect
The main problem was the lack of options in the middle of the park. Casemiro was asked to cover too much space with Bruno and Mount not dropping deep to help. With Shaw tucking in this made the left isolated. So the right side was the only option. It's a lazy narrative to put this on Wan Bissaka. He's been much better on the ball. Wolves just knew this was the only area United had to try exploit so was easy to counter this.
Giving casemiro the responsibility to break play from the midfield while being under pressure from wolves mids is a criminal act. A simple way out would be to push casemiro upfield and have mount and Bruno come deep forming almost a double pivot. This way they have more creativity, more options and better passers of the ball. This tactic was used by Zidane several times in Madrid.
U just read my mind. Thats exactly what Real used to do. So its either ETH doesnt know or he tells them to do it and they don't. Because I don't know how anyone can expect to progress the ball vertically with only Casemiro connecting the first and second phase. Something he's terrible at btw.
It’s not that simple, Luke Shaw was playing in the double pivot when United had the ball, but as you can see in this video, Wolves overloaded the midfield.
@@jameswyatt4443 the whole point is to not have casemiro be the one under pressure making passes as he’s not the best at that. Bruno and mount can do that role perfectly and together could disrupt other teams midfields.
Bruno dropping is so useless
@@katlehotrey212it was quite normal in real’s UCL three peat to have modric and kroos come in deep while casemiro used to drift upfield. It could work for united too 🤷🏻♂️
Defensively United's problem was that Mount was playing forward. This wasn't fixed until Erikson came in and played back with Casemiro to support the defense. Offensively United was just tactically beat the entire game. I love Basaka he is an amazing defender but if I was Ten Hag after seeing the same thing happen after their first few possessions, I would have put in Dalot. United play two cdm's but Mount was out there with Bruno as a cam the entire time. I'm not sure if this was planned to try and overwhelm the wolves back line but it clearly does not work.
The main problem I saw was a lack of movement off the ball, especially in midfield. Movement and switching positions created the extra space during the 15 minutes that we looked decent, and for the goal.
We should have used some tactical pinning where Antony drops deep near bissaka. If he's followed by his marker deep into our half then bisakka overlaps Antony to receive a long ball from Onana to start the counter. If the marker doesn't track Antony then we have numerical superiority in that area and then able to build up. I have always seen man city use Bernardo to pin markers to create overloads and make buildup easy
Wolves did exactly the same at st James park last season interestingly with a different coach. They pressed Dan Burn after marking Trips out. We played quite a lot of king balls consequently and lost possession. It was only a bit of Miggy magic that prevailed.
This channel is the best of its kind, I love your content! Another hugely interesting video. Thank you
All we (wolves) need to do is play well against a top 6 team and we finally get a video on Tifo! I look forward to seeing you 11 more times this season.
Wolves probably won't be playing with this intensity in most games.
To say they don’t need to worry about wan bisaka putting in a cross when he assisted with a lovely cross
Based on the eye test, the back four amd Onana are still not used to each other, Mount is new, Ganacho just broke through. That's 3-4 half hearted passes right there
"The eye test". Lol. Watching the game with your eyes, you mean?
They will learn and improve as the season goes on
I’m curious what they were learning over pre-season then
Wanbisaka is the weak link but the only assist of the game came from him making a clever run. I guess once you have been given a tag it sticks even if it's not true. Wanbisaka was not the worst player in that match by a huge mile.
Any player can make that pass as long as you are in the right position. Bissaka, like other players lacked creativity and ability to take on a player. That was the big difference between manu and wolves. Casmeiro, and grenacho also lacked the energy in the midfield. Mount and Rashford were just lost. Bissaka had a good game nevertheless but his overall performance was below average just like the aforementioned.
Great anlysis, But Tenhag said when you can't do the basics like passing, hustle, defense and decision making, any plan he has prepared will never work.
Players like Gernacho and Antony(who are inverted wingers and can finish) would be more affective if we play with narrow wingers, the closer they are to goal the more shots they'll take and more chances of scoring.
Exactly. Pellestri is the only natural winger in that team.
Brilliant analysis, but it is hilarious that AWB was made to be the "weak man" for United but it was ultimately his passing and his 1v1 defending that won the game haha
The refs won the game.
@@TP-pq9xxno, varane did
All time JJ tactics breakdown. What gem.
During the match, I knew the half space near the box was key, I wanted mount to link up with antony and awb over there in possession... I kept on telling my brother who was watching the match with me that was the way we would score....
Reasons...
1. They were making progression though the middle of the pitch, hard for us, so it's important for us to drag a body out of middle... So Bruno and mount shouldn't play close... Both or them should occupy half space regards of the flank the ball is in...
2. Mount plays ball faster than Bruno... Bruno checks assist first then the simple pass... Mound first goes for simple pass then tries to create in space only. So mount should link up with antony and awb who takes time on the ball.
And late run into space at half space can create goal.
But thankfully awb got it right in the half space.
When I heard the commentator talk about Gary O’Neill I had this image of old Martin O’Neill on the touch line
Wasn't the main problem that United players were so static and not creating passing opportunities for each other...the commentator said numerous times that the players were not moving...you can't play Ten Hag football if you don't create space for each other ...ETH has had over a year and a full preseason to drill his players and if they still aren't doing what he wants then that's on him
Yep, ETH system is based on constant positional rotation and they weren't doing that. It was bloody frustrating to watch 😅
Agreed. I was a big fan of ten Hag at Ajax, favoured his move to Utd, think he did great last season with everything going on, but this season (particularly with Onana no signed), I expect to see something actually materialise on the pitch (not necessarily perfect results, but more noticeable patterns and style).
Exactly … give and go which elementary schools are taught wasn’t happening
Yes, no movement and no effort. Wolves won every 50:50 and pretty much ever 70:30. It was embarrassing.
The main problem is that everyone thinks Maguire is the only problem, when the entire squad is unfit for purpose
It's painful to watch Antony. Also Rashford without a goal looks like a mid-table striker. Our problem last season was lack of goals, which I don't think has been sorted. This will haunt us the whole season.
Rashford is in dire need of a pivot to play with.
Hi, appreciate your work and analysis and it could look even much better if the wide shot has your closeup blocked on the side instead of the Lowerthird. That way we can still follow the pitch graphic and still see you. 👍🏾 ⚽️
This is incredible work. Keep up the videos!
I remember last season this guy made a similar video on the Man United vs Newcastle game (0-0). He said Newcastle are so much better than Man United and are playing with a clear identity and Man United looked clueless. Fair play Newcastle were really good last season but United still finished above them. That is why one game really doesn't matter a lot but if this becomes a pattern, thats a problem.
And he was right, the cup final was a sad performance from us, but man u were also very lucky with the nature of the goals and their timings. And this 1-0 win from man u vs wolves is the perfect summary of how man u acrue points in the Prem. With a large dose of luck, and ref/vars aiding them
@@keitholiver6152 lmao Stop the copium overdose, man. Even City, in all of their glory, very often scores scrappy and "lucky" goals. Goals 2 and 3 against Burnley were exactly that. Right place, right time with a lucky set of events that lead to a goal. Arsenal had loads of last-minute goals in ET last season (and even in the Community Shield against the almighty City). At some point, "luck" happens over and over enough times to where it can't just be "luck."
@@keitholiver6152that game wasnt a ref game, fairly lucky but that type of game happens all the time when a less talented team plays better than a more talented team, the more talented team still win sometimes based off small moments of class, this time from bruno awb and varane
Only just. Newcastle humiliated us in the league towards the end of the season. We're supposed to be challenging for the PL and CL trophies. And your argument is that we were slightly better than Newcastle last year. Desperate. Lol
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Well the analysis of the game between us and Newcastle made it look like we were miles behind them. My point was one game doesn't mean a lot and in fact we really were ahead of them despite what that one game suggested. Sure we should be competing for PL and for that you need to get the points even on days where you aren't at your best - exactly what we did yesterday.
I think it looked like United were not fit. Kind of mirrors last years start. Wonder if Ten Hag's training methods exhaust players at this period of them? So many of the issues you cited come down to being too slow.
United were also harmed by Garnacho turning over possession every time he got it in the first half.
Yeah we were second to every single ball. I’m gonna be honest, this is the first time I am feeling doubts about ETH. We will lose almost every time playing like yesterday, we look a million miles off it. I hope your right and it is just fitness because I don’t know how he turns this around quickly if it’s not.
@@seb1554 tbf our preseason was crazy. Too much travel and too little training
Great analysis as usual. Also, there's a weird amount of silence at the end (I didn't see another comment mention it)
Thank you for breaking down the tactics. Its interesting to see it from the overhead and learn some tactics
WOW 13:00
Manchester United spends money in a very inflated market.
There were some moments in this game where Ten hag had Martinez and varane push into the midfield during buildup keeping Shaw and Aron at the corner of the box. Thought that was an interesting tactic
Moments FC
The problem was that neither Bruno or Mount helped in build-up. It was left to the centre-backs and Casemiro whilst every other player was so far up the pitch. The very few times one of Bruno/Mount dropped deep we successfully shifted the ball forward, even the goal came from Bruno staying in the middle third with Casemiro and Mount in the box. Playing Bruno and Mount together can work but there needs to be more structure in possession, with one dropping whilst the other runs in behind, it could potentially be very effective. The problem right now though is that both of them seem to have complete freedom in possession and having not played with each other a lot end up drifting into the same positions and this also becomes a problem in the defensive transitions with both of them caught upfield and Casemiro expected to defend against the entire opposition midfield/forward lines. I think the other problem was also how deep Onana stayed throughout the game. Probably because he was a bit nervous with it being his debut, it meant we just weren't compact at all with the back line deep but the front players much further up the pitch leaving massive gaps in midfield like JJ showed. If Onana has a much higher starting position everyone can push up and it'll be much harder to play through us. But then obviously we have to protect the space in behind.
Love this breakdown. No time to watch the game but the detail and insight keep me up on this new season
You know, i'd love to see these guys play Football manager... There technical analysis is fascinating.
The problem is that as good as football manager is it's not tactically flexible. You can't really set up your pressing traps how you really want even if it gives you some options
Also, some of the qualities players they talk about players having can't really be expressed in the FM engine.
@@Jur1_00 oh i know, but still, would be fun.
JJ dropping some shade on this one. "Wan-Bisaka isn't going to run the overlap anyway." "Not a brave pass." "What's he going to do? Probably go inside." Great analysis with a lot of humor that highlights how Manchester United may struggle this season.
I know right but bissaka the weak link made the assist 😂 football is very funny
the wan-bisaka disrespect is crazy considering he was likely utd's 2nd best player from this game (behind onana) it was his runs down the line that really have united some of their only decent chances.. and he took advantage of the disrespect they played on him and turned it against them probably being the reason utd won the game
@@brmvrm992 tell them not to understand still ha.ha.l like English
@@brmvrm992 being the best player when you are the weakest link that teams are targeting goes to show how bad everyone else was and how the system doesn't suit the players at hand.
I have a strong gut feeling that some teams have and/or will try and tweak their in-game strategy following the news of ‘more added/injury time’ this season. Especially those clubs involved in European football, who have the added pressure of playing that many more games over the course of the season.
Whether it’s slowing down the play more often, not pressing as high or as intense, not forcing the play, trying to counter at 100kmh etc
I saw glimpses of it during Arsenal v Bournemouth. Arsenal consistently slowing down the game making short passes around the background for minutes on end, not worried about getting a goal or forcing anything. Same with United against Wolves here to a similar degree. It’s as if they have the end in mind and know that come February/March time, they might be dropping like flies due to injuries, exhaustion etc
I could be completely wrong though. Anyone else thinking the same thing, or picked up on any of this?
This video was much better. Very good breakdown and JJ Bull is actually able to breath with this pace. For a second there I though all of the videos were now just going to be incredibly rushed and with the presenters just speaking way too fast.
Excellent breakdown
We lost our first two games last season, not worried at all. Ten Hag will adjust and we will improve.
Having a proper CF alone will make a world of difference as Rashford is a better outlet on the left.
Mount I think has to learn to play deeper, which I think is the plan. He has the attributes for it, just needs time and practice.
Last season we scraped a top four finish with just over an hour left to play, and were a million miles away from City and Arsenal. Bizarre that everyone imagines we had an amazing season when it was nothing of the sort.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotprobably it's the context of the year before that when it was absolutely dreadful, last year was good and positive top four and a trophy because it had been ages without silverware and the previous year it was the worst statistical season in the prem
@@tonilando Last season was tracking worse than the season before up until around March, when we ground out a decent run of narrow victories. We were shocking. SEVEN to LFC, SIX to City, THREE to Arsenal, FOUR to Brentford, TWO to a managerless Leeds at home. I could go on...
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotTbf, we were actually within range of Arsenal and City around March but suspension to Casemiro forcing McT and Fred into startis and major injury to Martinez making Lindelof and Maguire have to start was NOTICEABLE and resulted in some bad draws and losses. Depth is a problem for this team
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot we were unlucky with injury. City was the only game where all our players were fit.
the moment i saw the mount in the first 11 i was a little bit scared and when the game started it was exactly what i was fearing of... the moment they start playing with one 6 and two 8s or 10s, however you wanna call it, they play like its their first game in their life... clubs that play like that either have a fast and agile nr 6 or the players that play 8s or 10s are actually doing their defensive part... you can go back and watch every game they were positioned like that, they sucked.... the problem is just continuing to happen, when you watch the game you see 5 or sometimes even 6 players (when they are attacking) squashed in the oppositions back line... they tried it like that before and it didnt work... ever, even against "easy, bottom of the league" teams... its just a frustration because you see casemiro trying his best and none of the front 5 is coming back to help bring the ball out the defence, and get it through the lines... the moment they start looking less at actual positions they are at, and start passing the ball and moving around (not always pushing to the oppositions defence and staying there), something is gonna change and i think the confidence problem is gonna start to fade away... they need to be more fluid with their positions imo
I think the reason their was such a lack in the middle of the pitch is that Mount, who made some really good runs in behind, and is really good at that, didn't show short often enough. And when he did show short, he played it safe. But, I think Bruno should have been the one to drop deep instead and play that Eriksen role when Mount is on the pitch. Because, Mount does give you lovely runs from the midfield. That's what he's really good at. Bruno, even tho he's a little higgledy-piggledy with the ball at times, he's also really decisive and is always looking for a progressive pass. Plus Bruno is better defensively than I think most people give him credit for and he plays on the right hand side with Wan-Bissaka, so if he drops to receive the ball Bissaka now has someone to play a one touch game with, nullifying Wolves pressure, and allowing Varane to become a defensive outlet and security, which gives Bissaka more license to get forward and gives Onana more options in the center of the pitch, if Bruno drags Nunes with him. This takes away Wolves midfield advantage and stretches Wolves back line as Man U. (supposing Bissaka plays further up the pitch) now have a consistent 2 on 1 against Ait-Noure on the right side of the pitch. But that didn't happen and that is ten Hag's fault for failing to make that adjustment.
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Given they were pressing wan bissaka so hard I find it very harsh to be so critical of him. He played very well through the pressure and was the catalyst for the few chances we had.
The disrespect is crazy.
Is not so much a disrespect, but pick your poison. Is like the Jorginho thing, who makes one of the most tackles per 90 in the Prem because teams much rather target him than say, Kante. With United, do you rather have Martinez pinging balls through, or Shaw driving up the wing, or do you prefer Wan Bissaka having to do the difficult pass? Is quite an easy choice.
De Jong would have been a perfect fit for this game.
One little thing, I liked Fabio Silva’s cameo for Wolves. Hope he steps up this season and can find some goals after being out on loan last season.
Love your content mate! Great analysis, thorough explanation & a little bit of comedy to boot. Quality!
Garnacho getting a lot of stick for his performance. But hes a 19 year old making one of his first starts in the senior team. The majority of his career growing up he would have had a full back near him or overlapping creating soace for him and decoys. By shaw tucking in that left him isolated. I think there is still no pattern of play and United are still relying on moments
The likes of Giggs and Rooney were tearing up the PL when they were much younger. His age is irrelevant
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Garnacho is not on that level...be realistic.
@@Mad_Intalect Yes that was my point. Well done for working it out
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot And you clearly didn't get mine, he needs more time, less pressure NOW, he's not a starter yet.
@@Mad_Intalect I clearly did. Yes, he’s not good enough to be a starter for Man Utd. Just another over promoted academy player to save the Glazers some money. What do you want? What is it that you are crying to me about?
Tifo is high level analysis.
Thanks for your videos.
We also need to know why the referees were so bad
Yeah, gave Wolves way too much.
nah he was great both penalty shouts were perfectly given,non pens...the last minute one both onana and your cb were looking at the ball going for the ball and they collided,in what world is that a penalty?
Fr martinez deserved a red card
Fr, in that Liverpool game it was a clear penalty but they’d didn’t give it for some reason.
@@shahinyoussef08it wasn't a pen bro
Happy for 3 points
Fergie was clearly on the VAR yesterday. Should have had a penalty and possibly even a red for Karate chopping the wolves player. Good game by Wolves considering really!
what program do you use on the table? 🤔
This whole thing ten Hag wants to do requires players of very high physical, tactical AND tactical abilities to execute and do it consistently as well. The keeper must be good at sweeping up the space behind the defensive line and must be an accomplished passer of the ball with a varied pass selection and an extensive range. They must also be good as saving the ball obvs, esp from long range. Thecentre backs have to be great at defending space in wide areas, the full backs have to be able to defend the middle of the pitch and both groups should be excellent at progressing the ball through midfield. The advanced midfielders must be able to receive the ball on the half-turn and quickly play a creative and, most importantly, accurate pass forward and the forwards should be able to attack the space off the ball to receive forward passes or drop deep and link up play or retain possession briefly to pace themselves between fast bursts forward. The attacking players must be close enough without the ball to press aggressively and recover and wide enough on the ball to receive the pass. All the players must be able to rotate positions within the game, so a full back could end up in the center forward position, and change to the setup continuously to catch the opps out or to react to the opps tactics. They must also be willing to press intensely, intelligently and consistently so the opposition don't have enough time on the ball to exploit spaces. With this picture in mind as a checkpoint of sorts, run all the current United players through and see how many make it through as capable of this system. One key thing to remember is that this is very similar to peak Liverpool under Klopp and see how often they burned out or had to deal with numerous injuries.
This is great analysis and so well explained. It’s such a shame for wolves to not get a result from this match but with this level of performance against other teams they will get points and they’d deserve to stay in the PL.
If they keep playing like that, they're going to get a lot of neutral fans too. That ball carrying was scintillating. What opposition goes to old trafford and has the guts to play like that?!
varane was supposedly the only positive in this game, also awb and onana, but varane is a class defender
His record in the EPL is diabolical.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot i think i only said about this game and not take any record in account
@@somsundarchaudhuri7766 You said he is a class defender but his record in England shows that is demonstrably false
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot alright alright. What about his whole career, internationals
@@somsundarchaudhuri7766 How does his previous record mean that his time in the English game hasn't been diabolical? Lol
Few years ago in the Europa League Final, Unai Emery done the same thing.
He also set-up his team in a such a way that united players who are good on the ball are not allowed time & space to pass the ball or move forward. They are also forced to pass the ball to McTominay & AWB because Emery let them free because he knew they are not a threat on the ball and let them have it.
If Man Utd want to be successful with ETH, then they have to sell AWB & McTominay.
AWB has a lot of fans, so they will say bro he is a world class defender, bro best in the world in one on one's etc. These people forgot that he plays for a team that dominates ball in most of the games. If his on ball qualities are not good enough, then he is a liability in possession. We had the same issue with DeGea for years. Opponents are looking for the best weak spots, after DDG, AWB is the next big weak spot. After him Varane & Casemiro. If Dalot played instead of AWB, then opponents will target Varane. This cycle will continue till we have players who are brilliant on the ball in all positions.
What application do uou use to do these animations and graphics where u can move ur 11
They sucked at the start of last season to I think they will be fine
Yeah, I've seen a lot of Ajax fans say that when ETH was their coach they always struggled at the start of the season until all the players ETH brings in adapt and injuries from pre-season play themselves out. It was definitely an awful performance but better than getting whipped by Brighton and Brentford on MD1 & 2 last season. A bit worrying but still confident we'll look better once Mount adapts to a new role and Højlund gets integrated.
@tfc91420 I remember when he came in at ajax he was heavily criticized for experimenting too much
We barely scraped top 4 last season. Your comment makes no sense. Lol
Ten Haag was tactically outclassed here. Also, no way mount plays in that team as a 8. Worrying signs these.
Spent 400m in a year.. must’ve had some spare change to buy the guys in the VAR control room
@@midknight Keep crying, bud.
Sure, if only we got rid of the ENGLISH men, Mount and Maguire, we would start winning all the top trophies. Lol
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot No way we are getting rid of Mount anytime soon. We literally just signed him. ETH needs to find a system to fit him in.
@@Ilovetohaveachangenowandagain I agree that it should've been a pen. Bad officiating != "buying the refs." Keep up, bud.
The problem United have and will continue to have is that they actually did not identify and address the two biggest issues from last season. we dont know how to control the tempo of games against good quality teams (that can hold possesion), which is why we struggled against the top 10 teams particularly away. When playing away controlling the tempo (winning the midfield battle) is crucial to winning and if you do that the chances of winning are really high. The second issue is that we dont have a reliable striker who we know can get us 20 goals minimum.
Eriksen can actually control the tempo of games against lower oppositions, but I noticed that he cant do it against the big teams because he no longer has the legs to do the defensive work necessary to win such games. Instead of getting a midfielder in the ilk of verrati or rabiot, who are really good at dictating play and to a certain extent breaking up opposition play, we got a watered down version of bruno in mount. instead of getting harry kane, we got an unproven young player who cannot be expected to contribute right away.
if we had resigned de gea, bought verratti for 50m, signed rabiot for free and bought kane, we would be in much better shape than the players we bought (while spending less money).
Antony is one of the worst signings in premier league history
Yeah I agree even though I'm Brazilian. Extremely overrated player. Martinelli is miles better and yet Antony keeps getting called 🙄
I'm hoping Amad gets his slot in the team.
That's a stupid and bad take
He's being nurtured into a playmaker and also he has a high defensive work rate not many wingers go back to help their wing backs defensively. So if you are using the basis of goals and assists he's terrible but in other aspects he is really good
@@jamesvictor6682 PRetty much all prem wingers have just as good if not better defensive contributions nowdays. THe only exceptions are salah, rashford (when playing out wide), Mahrez (has gone now), and Willian (but hes old). PRety much every single other winger has good defensive contributions to their team. It's part of the package, what makes a winger good is their attacking play. Not G/A. Grealish doesn't have many, but he is such a good ball progressor. Anthony really is just annoying to watch. He has no pace at all, and he also is extremely predictable. He also can't cross to the back post well at all even after cutting onto his strong foot. He's a very useless player unless he gets into a 25 yard range shot from goal with his strong foot. He's a one trick and hes not underrated at all.
Mount, Bruno and Casemiro treat the ball like its a grenade. I seriously doubt Ten Hag's game plan here
That is so true
His game plan was to win
@@mrbeanie5314 We won through luck and awful ref decision. What were you watching?
Why does nobody ever call ten hagg out because he's got it wrong more than once
I honestly don't understand why the same people who wanted David De Gea gone, now try to shift the blame on Varane and Casemiro's ball-playing abilities which is factually incorrect - but then say AWB is better than Dalot. Dalot is so much better for the system in the inverted role next to Casemiro. He helps us control the midfield better and you see that difference when he doesn't play but people don't realise it's him who makes that difference because they look at his game on an individual level which is scrutinised anyway on a macro level because the fanbase is so flippant from hating AWB, to now hating Dalot, instead of from a birds-eye view.
As we progress through the season we'll see Rashford on the left where he's better and Højlund/Martial at CF. I'm confident ETH will figure something out to make Mount-Bruno-Casemiro-Eriksen work together in some kinda rotation to fix the midfield.
My prediction: Mount will continue to not quite work however Ten Haag plays him *and* people will spend all season making excuses for him.
I predict you are very wrong. He's only played a few mintues and he wasn't exactly awful was he.
My prediction: Everyone will now start scapegoating the ENGLISH man, Mount, instead of Maguire. Oh look! It's already started!
This was the analysis I’ve been waiting for after watching my club play so bad against a mediocre team like wolves last night…thanks for another great piece of review guys🤝🏼🔥
At the end of the season we will see how mediocre we are …as for you …let’s see you need to be outstanding to win the league or finish in top 4 …let’s see
@adrianrichards247 But Wolves are mediocre, even a professional like Lopetegui saw it.
cool to see these things during the game and you explain it perfectly. great video. as a United video, not happy at all with the performance!
I saw the game. Tactically superb. Players also did very well to follow orders. I would love to see brentford / brighton even forrest play United with similar tactics.
Do you plan to make 38 episodes of this?
I didn't watch the match, but the title is suggesting that Man Utd didn't play so well. It feels funny because, in pre season they were so much better than us (Arsenal), they looked far better prepared for the season too, sharper in every way. But it seems like we had a better start to our season than United did. So strange.
They were only good against Arsenal in pre-season. Most of their other games were questionable at best
We had Mainoo against ye, he's injured now🙁.
It's pre season
It’s an awful excuse, but the pitch seemed extremely slippery (fresh turf for the new season, heavy rain before kick off). Wolves obviously dealt with it better, but everyone was slipped over all over the place, made the game very clunky with favoured wolves.
Utd were also really really bad on top of that though. Worrying early signs
I say it every year, preseason means nothing.
It’s not unusual for a team to enter the season unable to execute perfectly on a tactical plan. There are three issues:
1. Tactics - perhaps ETH predicted Wolves lining up a different way. The second half subs briefly showed a path through Wolves before settling into a low block.
2. Execution - key players here are Mount, Garnacho, and Antony. Mount is new so it can be excused, Garnacho is probably not 1st team ready (Rashford would be playing that side with a CF), and Antony is underwhelming. Overall, execution comes with repetition so this should improve.
3. Personnel - Wolves always left a man open in space. If AWB can’t play through, maybe Dalot can. On both sides, United were unable to get past the first line, but there were no options bc Garnacho and Antony were bottled up. If a team does this again United need to able to win 1-on-1 with better personnel or just fizz it to a deep playmaker like Bruno.
I’m not that concerned. Even as a layman watching the game, it was obvious where the problems were and how they could be fixed.
I can listen to JJ do tactical analysis all day!
United have no press resistant Midfielders.
United will have a lot of trouble generally this season
They will have to win games through their teeth or hop for counters.
It's more of the midfielders getting way to stretched and pushed up the field so basically leaving casemiro alone in the midfield for me and that's a really big problem too
They need hojlund back
How would he have helped? The video is far more than just them missing a player they have yet to play with.