Why Mason Mount is actually ideal for Manchester United

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    Mason Mount has signed for Manchester United, but 60 million pounds is a lot for a player who doesn't seem to perfectly replace any member of the Man Utd squad.
    Does he play as a 10? Bruno Fernandes has that position locked down.
    Could he play as an 8? He's no Christian Eriksen.
    Can he even play on the wing? Rashford might have something to say about that.
    So why does Jon Mackenzie think Mason Mount is actually ideal for Manchester United?
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  • @hveisel
    @hveisel Před 10 měsíci +533

    I know it's literally your job, but the way you guys use data to demonstrate your points and analysis is absolutely elite. Another banger video ❤

    • @felixbache5369
      @felixbache5369 Před 10 měsíci +27

      makes you wonder why 'experts' on tv get so much airtime

    • @hveisel
      @hveisel Před 10 měsíci +22

      @@felixbache5369 very good point! I have never seen a pundit/expert on tv even come close to the level of analysis you can find on youtube.

    • @Walter_Birantana
      @Walter_Birantana Před 10 měsíci +10

      As a data analyst myself, I appreciate this, they follow the rudimentary steps with exceptionally

    • @Antonio-hb8rd
      @Antonio-hb8rd Před 10 měsíci

      I bet you compliment the postman for delivering letters. smh.

    • @hveisel
      @hveisel Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@Antonio-hb8rd no i usually dropkick them in their teeth

  • @colewilson98
    @colewilson98 Před 10 měsíci +201

    Mount is an extremely versatile, hard working player. Every coach he’s had has sung his praises. Many top managers wanted him. It’s crazy to me fans doubt him (saying this as a Chelsea fan unhappy with his departure)

    • @HayKay_
      @HayKay_ Před 10 měsíci +5

      I can endure Havertz leaving, but not Mount. But can't blame Mount. Chelsea became unstable under the new owners. Spent £600m on players and most of them don't fit. Won't be playing UCL. Club trying to recoup money and have to sell. Just hope 23/24 will be better for Chelsea and the new players perform. Hopefully, the board have learnt one or two things.

    • @VeryIntellijent
      @VeryIntellijent Před 10 měsíci

      I am gutted that Mount hasn't worked out at Chelsea long-term, but I am not gutted about him leaving, if that makes sense. Watching Azpilicueta's goodbye video just reinforced that. When the going got tough, Mount mentally and emotionally checked out. It showed both on and off the pitch, and that's not what we need.

    • @dylansomewhere
      @dylansomewhere Před 10 měsíci +2

      cause most of our fans are idiots and I can say that wholeheartedly, I hate this fan base sometimes with the ridiculous takes.

    • @JamesHussain82
      @JamesHussain82 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Keeping a player soley because he came through the youth system is stupid. He wanted too much money and wouldn't have played. Simple.

    • @wesley20124
      @wesley20124 Před 8 měsíci

      Think you nailed it. He's hard working, versatile and not much else

  • @glenrobinson10
    @glenrobinson10 Před 10 měsíci +322

    When comparing to his role in Ten Hag's preferred system, it's much more likely to look like Ajax 21/22 than United 22/23.

    • @ludwigstenberg1050
      @ludwigstenberg1050 Před 10 měsíci +17

      That would make sense! So likely a 4-2-3-1 as that's what I recall them playing? With Mount and Case in the pivot and Bruno further forward? Things would of course change around while in possesion.

    • @jaki1584
      @jaki1584 Před 10 měsíci +31

      I think Mount would play the VDB role and Bruno drops deeper. But that’s the good thing, they can switch positions throughout the 90 mins

    • @najibb5405
      @najibb5405 Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@jaki1584yeah bruno has proven hes capable in dm position

    • @mrlace4776
      @mrlace4776 Před 10 měsíci +18

      @@ludwigstenberg1050 will move to a single pivot in casemiro. mount and bruno to play as two 8s in a traditional 4-3-3

    • @Stubz_g
      @Stubz_g Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@ludwigstenberg1050more a 4-3-3 with Bruno and Mount as 8s

  • @joshua7734
    @joshua7734 Před 10 měsíci +1258

    People are going to be shocked by how good of a signing this is.

    • @M4NA5
      @M4NA5 Před 10 měsíci +186

      Ye, like Sancho and Antony.
      Either Mount or Bruno will fall off. Come back to this in a year.

    • @lwanelechirwa2057
      @lwanelechirwa2057 Před 10 měsíci +18

      But why did he get no.7?

    • @celtic69
      @celtic69 Před 10 měsíci +76

      @@lwanelechirwa2057ask fergie who gave it to a 1 legged Michael Owen

    • @fishfinger7145
      @fishfinger7145 Před 10 měsíci +61

      ​@sharm4na5 it's antonys first season he can't be a flop yet

    • @litti1047
      @litti1047 Před 10 měsíci

      Hope so

  • @alfiehaigh8412
    @alfiehaigh8412 Před 10 měsíci +264

    I think people are really missing the fact that bruno was great as a deep lying playmaker when he replaced eriksen, leading to the weghorst minutes at 10. Hes more energetic and defensively capable than eriksen (not saying hes a good defender by any means, but a solid improvement on eriksen) and one of the major criticisms labelled at bruno, that being his pass completion %, was actually better when he was playing deeper. Also unlike mount, we have evidence for bruno playing this role outside of manchester united as he did it at times for sporting
    Im not saying bruno next to casemiro and mount at 10 will be what happens every game or the default, but im honestly surprised how little its getting talked about as a posssibility (not directed specifically at Jon/Tifo, just something ive noticed in the general media coverage of mounts potential role)

    • @hambakhaya
      @hambakhaya Před 10 měsíci +29

      Bruno's DLP performance against Everton at OT was one for the books. We were on control of that midfield and Bruno was playing next to Mctominay lol. I am surprised no one praised aside from you has spoken about how well he has played there before.
      My only problem is why didn't Ten Hag play Donny in the CAM and Bruno in the DLP role more last season (Not every game, but more last season)?

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 Před 10 měsíci +7

      ​@@hambakhayaDonny was injured. But I think he's going to be a real surprise this season, should get plenty of minutes.

    • @MrWill1729
      @MrWill1729 Před 10 měsíci

      Mount will definitely be at 8, we shouldn’t sacrifice the best players skill set for someone else

    • @saqib7965
      @saqib7965 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I've noticed this too it's very fluid with Bruno they can change position's during the game they both can play in the wide area/10 and 8

    • @paulstockton7121
      @paulstockton7121 Před 10 měsíci +9

      Expect Mount and Bruno as RCM and LCM respectively. Casemiro as a lone CDM and the whole of the back line pushing further up the pitch, so Casemiro doesn't have to cover so much space.

  • @Anarkey
    @Anarkey Před 10 měsíci +41

    Don't forget the age factor. Casemiro and Eriksen are both 31 this year while Bruno is 28. It's pretty obvious Mount is brought in to replace Eriksen once he hits 33-34 years old in 2-3 years. By then Mount would be 26-27 which is entering into prime age for a midfielder. Added benefit is that he gets to learn from all 3 during those couple of years by training and playing with them.

    • @rwalker0130
      @rwalker0130 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Mount is gonna replace Erikson right now. Erikson is a great player and was a transformative signing for our squad last year but he just can't keep up physically with the best of the Prem and the Champions league at this point and completely ran out of gas last year after coming back from injury

    • @aystefan
      @aystefan Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@rwalker0130 Eriksen still has a massive part to play though has to be said. Being able to switch between him and Mount will be very nice for Ten Hag

  • @rvn856
    @rvn856 Před 10 měsíci +17

    He isn’t a replacement. He is an upgrade.

  • @jkkchow74
    @jkkchow74 Před 10 měsíci +129

    When lampard brought him up from the academy in his first stint, I always wondered whether Mount will eventually be molded to be a lampard type CM. He hasn’t shown that he has a tendency to shoot or rush to the front like lampard. But maybe this is the jolt and freedom he needs. Maybe by the end of the season, ppl will appreciate the sort of potential he has. And if he starts scoring he will become the modern lampard.

    • @tequila_tibbs7938
      @tequila_tibbs7938 Před 10 měsíci

      then he can become a manager

    • @alisankoh4052
      @alisankoh4052 Před 10 měsíci +9

      Bruno is the modern Lampard

    • @steliosp1770
      @steliosp1770 Před 10 měsíci

      he s the highest scorer and assister for chelsea since he started playing for them.. literally. he has a scholes-esque volley in him and great first and second touch. in ten hag's system especially if we also get Onana and hopefully a CF (still think Kane will be a real possibility just later in the window once he s had the opportunity to come back from his vacation and sit down with postecoglu and levy and let them know he s not gonna sign a new deal and that even if they dont let him move this summer he s gonna move next summer and still go to united - where he can play with rashford shaw and mount; players he knows from england whom with he has great synergy already as well as the most creative player in europe in fernandes and legends of the game in casemiro and varane as well as hugely talented players like martinez and onana and hopefully a sancho that finally finds his rhythm and confidence in a system that actually works all over the pitch.

    • @stephenonolan4298
      @stephenonolan4298 Před 10 měsíci +5

      What? Literally Chelseas highest scorer since his debut, as mentioned in the video.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Před 10 měsíci +10

      @@alisankoh4052 Bruno is a 10, Lampard was an 8 or box to box midfielder.

  • @chibbyranjo
    @chibbyranjo Před 10 měsíci +20

    Ten Hag is very good at building a team that does the things he wants them to do. That sounds obvious, but he doesn’t restrict himself to individual players performing set tasks. He is happy to move the position that individual qualities are in, as long as he has a collection of players that have all of those required qualities. His Ajax midfield morphed over a number of seasons with incoming players that weren’t always like-for-like replacements. He built a midfield that aggregated a set of qualities. Mount is just that. He has qualities that Ten Hag feels weren’t being covered across a number of players. That’s in part probably his stamina, his resilience to injury and pressing. None of which are particularly glamorous but watch him succeed.

    • @danecadette4714
      @danecadette4714 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Also, Mount can carry and dribble better than Bruno but Bruno football i.q and passing is genius

  • @nolant5791
    @nolant5791 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I've seen Bruno slot into that double pivot role with Casemiro last season. Perhaps Bruno could do the Eriksen's role, and have Mount play in Bruno's original position as a 10. Or they could have bruno and Mount as 8's in a midfield three with Casemiro, I see that as the most feasible

  • @sheep910
    @sheep910 Před 10 měsíci +69

    Truely great analysis. Seriously, compared to a lot of TV pundits you guys are geniuses

    • @zach1619
      @zach1619 Před 10 měsíci +22

      True but the bar is pretty low for TV pundit’s level of analysis

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@zach1619exactly. I mean Rio ferdinand is there just to make Gary Neville seem knowledgeable

    • @saqib7965
      @saqib7965 Před 10 měsíci

      All clueless 😂

  • @raiderwize4411
    @raiderwize4411 Před 10 měsíci +48

    Last season we did see Bruno being played as a deep playmaker

    • @Cee_H
      @Cee_H Před 10 měsíci +11

      We also saw Bruno play everywhere else except keeper 😂

    • @devinaustin1833
      @devinaustin1833 Před 10 měsíci +2

      But if you remember at sampdoria and sporting thats where Bruno always started but he was allowed freedom to do more

  • @stuntmanmike6330
    @stuntmanmike6330 Před 10 měsíci +23

    Love your Maldini shirt.. Best defender I've I've ever seen (Blanc 2nd).. I remember back in the 80s him saying that he knew he'd made a mistake in defence if he had to make a tackle.." That made a massive impression on me about how to defend in football.. LEGEND!

    • @Ken_from_Mumbai
      @Ken_from_Mumbai Před 10 měsíci +5

      True. Italians are geniuses in defence. We don't get such players anymore.

    • @farhadchaudhry
      @farhadchaudhry Před 10 měsíci +5

      Michael Carrick had that about him as well.
      Not in the sense of being an expert defender like Maldini. But that he knew how to defend without needing to make a tackle. It unassumingly kept United tight at the back. Matic was brought for this too but lost his legs.

    • @stuntmanmike6330
      @stuntmanmike6330 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@farhadchaudhry Rio also.. My dad always said the best defenders leave the pitch with clean shorts

    • @mkf628
      @mkf628 Před 10 měsíci

      crazy highlight reels

  • @ajuzumaki7399
    @ajuzumaki7399 Před 10 měsíci +6

    With Mount on the team, Bruno can stress less and be more innovative with the accumulating numbers of matches. And I hope none of the players get injured in upcoming season.

  • @eggsII
    @eggsII Před 10 měsíci +8

    One of Mount’s biggest strengths is his pressing ability. Another option for Ten Hag is to play two 10s and moving Shaw into an inverted fullback role. This would solve the pivot issue and provide more opportunity to press high. The only danger is that their wingers aren’t particularly defensively responsible…

    • @iad77
      @iad77 Před 10 měsíci

      I can see that, ETH likes high pressure so probably 1 FB would go inverted with casemiro to protect the middle in possession then press high up if we lose possession

    • @bolajifashola7126
      @bolajifashola7126 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Antony is though. it is the others that arent

  • @danielthomas7351
    @danielthomas7351 Před 10 měsíci +8

    At the end of the window, would Tifo be able to create a video or a podcast discussing and reviewing the Premier League clubs transfer business and perhaps draw comparisons to the sensible transfer videos to see from the analysts perspectives whether smart decisions were made?

  • @Tosa_Capital
    @Tosa_Capital Před 10 měsíci +121

    Just the tactical analysis video I was waiting for 👌🏾... please prove these espn amateurs wrong🙌🏾

    • @BWart-zp5hy
      @BWart-zp5hy Před 10 měsíci

      It seems like every signings can't be wrong nowadays

    • @jt19933
      @jt19933 Před 10 měsíci +16

      @@BWart-zp5hyno. It seems like every signing must be wrong for top teams.

    • @BWart-zp5hy
      @BWart-zp5hy Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jt19933 wrong. I haven't heard any criticism about havertz, mount, rice transfers.
      This channel can't criticise a transfer and try to find positive in it

    • @goncalopereira8147
      @goncalopereira8147 Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@BWart-zp5hy u cant find bad transfers in this type of clubs nowadays because of the amount of data and scouting they have, everything is taken to consideration and they dont just buy because hes good and nothing more, there is always a purpose, especially in this analytical era of football

    • @BWart-zp5hy
      @BWart-zp5hy Před 10 měsíci

      @@goncalopereira8147 you seriously think big clubs can't make mistakes when there has been countless for past 2 decades

  • @simtyful
    @simtyful Před 10 měsíci +4

    You people are smoking copium. MM's game is all about pass and press which is not what Utd currently do. He is a student of the Dutch and Barcelona styles of play. It's basketball mathematics where passing the ball creates the spaces. The current Manchester United style is based on exploiting opportunities in transition and Marcus Rashford suits this style perfectly. Ten Hag obviously wants to move away from the 'red rush' style to a more controlled Dutch style becuase it's what he knows. MM is part of that transition. His arrival is part of a program of disruption not evolution. A footballing keeper and a more technical spine to the team seem inevitable

    • @samwize28
      @samwize28 Před 10 měsíci

      that makes sense, but i still worry about the teams ability to hold on to the ball.
      Mount/Bruno/Cas are not known for their perfect passing and ball control. It feels like even the likes of Brighton will finish games with higher possession stats than us (which isnt the be all and end all, but you take my point).

    • @simtyful
      @simtyful Před 10 měsíci

      @@samwize28 don’t worry about MM in terms of ball retention. He’s one of those players who retain the ball against all odds. With respect to the others. There’s been a massive improvement since TH arrived. Before that, half the team wasn’t even getting their body position correct to receive a pass for efficient redistribution. But you can only play so many tunes on a broken piano. New more technically effective players will arrive. Slightly worried about Marcus Rashford fitting in. Raheem Sterling can’t retain possession at Chelsea.

  • @0_Baba
    @0_Baba Před 10 měsíci +1

    great work on the analysis, greaat video too.. but i just have to say, that that shirt is fire

  • @bigfudge2031
    @bigfudge2031 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Eriksen will be great to play in the easier home games to offer more creativity and also to bring on as a sub when we need a goal.

  • @Dazzmondo95
    @Dazzmondo95 Před 10 měsíci +2

    This is completely wrong. Utd already played with Casemiro as a single pivot last season. Bruno wasn't a single 10. Both he and either Eriksen or Fred played as advanced 8s/10s on either side of Casemiro. Mount is 100% coming into the team to take Eriksen's place. Maybe he could occasionally fill in other positions in times of major injuries but he'll play most of his time in a midfield 3. If we played a double pivot we would have gone for Caicedo instead of Mount.

  • @simonhdfifa1685
    @simonhdfifa1685 Před 10 měsíci +2

    John's hand movements makes me feel like everythings gonna be alright

  • @plus12gaming
    @plus12gaming Před 10 měsíci +26

    When Eriksen signed, people didn't think he could play that deep...

    • @olamilekanakala7542
      @olamilekanakala7542 Před 10 měsíci +1

      And he really can't

    • @jorregritter3669
      @jorregritter3669 Před 10 měsíci

      He had already played much deeper than he used to at Spurs at Inter and Brentford tbf

    • @toastedgrapes7961
      @toastedgrapes7961 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@olamilekanakala7542 He can. He doesn't have the pace he used to have at Spurs, but the attributes needed for a deep-lying playmaker are pretty similar to the CAM role he had at Spurs. Passing, vision, ball carrying, composure, set-piece delivery, etc. are all attributes Eriksen still has. The only real change is a lower number of goals and a slightly larger defensive responsibility, but Case does a fantastic job covering (mostly).

  • @matheusvilas770
    @matheusvilas770 Před 10 měsíci +2

    You have to make a video about Ancelloti coaching Brazil. It is a turning point in South American football

  • @Amar-Yg6
    @Amar-Yg6 Před 10 měsíci

    I think that in a lot of games, where man united would dominate with possesion, we could see mount as that no 8 on the right, alongside bruno, with Casemiro behind them two. What mount would do though, is do something similar to what he did under tuchel a few times when playing as a right winger, and have a partnership with the widest player on the right hand side. With Chelsea, it was Reece James, and with united, it would be antony. You can see on average heatmaps in the 22/23 season that united still have a tendency of players drifting towards the left hand side, which left antony to do all the work on the right. He's more of a link up player imo, so I think you could have Mount overlapping with antony and providing that link up, whilst providing more balance to united, even with sancho as well (if he's still at united). It also enables that flexibility into the final 3rd which was something we kinda missed. I don't see mount playing as a pivot at all for united to be honest, could be wrong though.

  • @mylanpolderman6322
    @mylanpolderman6322 Před 10 měsíci

    Jon's "title" at 0:12 was class, lmao. Great video, as always

  • @Nippleless_Cage
    @Nippleless_Cage Před 10 měsíci +2

    Jon's trying to jinx it. 😂 I support this effort.

  • @frassefrazer
    @frassefrazer Před 10 měsíci +2

    Very good analysis! Feels like a very strange decision to buy him based on your injury table. United needs a center FWD and a good backup/replacement for Eriksen/Casemiro.

  • @AwakeningFromADream
    @AwakeningFromADream Před 10 měsíci +1

    Can listen to Jon all day, always a joy

  • @fantasy104-3
    @fantasy104-3 Před 10 měsíci

    love the vids. keep it up!

  • @leel9186
    @leel9186 Před 10 měsíci +15

    I actually think we will have to No 8s. Mount and Bruno either side of Bruno, with them both taking in turns to roam and make late runs.

    • @ArunaUtd
      @ArunaUtd Před 10 měsíci +7

      Either side of Case?

    • @lewisblackwiththenicehair
      @lewisblackwiththenicehair Před 10 měsíci +15

      ​@@ArunaUtdnah Bruno has cloned himself over the summer 😂

    • @ArunaUtd
      @ArunaUtd Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@lewisblackwiththenicehair Bro's about to play 102 games next szn 😭😭

    • @lewisblackwiththenicehair
      @lewisblackwiththenicehair Před 10 měsíci +3

      @Ventovader123 knowing United that's probably per Bruno too 😂

    • @toastedgrapes7961
      @toastedgrapes7961 Před 10 měsíci

      @@ArunaUtd Homie played 59 games last season lmao, he needs a rest occasionally.

  • @tryinggaming414
    @tryinggaming414 Před 10 měsíci

    if mount was the only signing for the deep play i would be worried but since its very likely we are getting onana
    . the pressure on him to play as a pivot will be minimal since onana can play as an extra man during build up

  • @jackielivsey
    @jackielivsey Před 10 měsíci +1

    There is only Casemiro at Mounts level , I’m a Chelsea fan and I would buy him back tomorrow at £110m without a shadow of a doubt . It won’t be long until he is a crowd favourite there , you can’t fool the fans that attend the games they see they effort individuals do first hand Mount always gives 150%

  • @ronanfitzpatrick1261
    @ronanfitzpatrick1261 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great video Jon. Covered a huge amount of ground in less than 20min without it being overwhelming.
    Love to hear who you think Utd could/should sign as a striker for 50m or less & why. (Rumour the budget is 150m so if they do sign Onana, might be all they have...)

    • @anderpodd2677
      @anderpodd2677 Před 10 měsíci +1

      It’s looking like it’ll be hojlund

    • @ronanfitzpatrick1261
      @ronanfitzpatrick1261 Před 10 měsíci

      @@anderpodd2677 Heard they're looking for €70m though

    • @nicknewman7848
      @nicknewman7848 Před 10 měsíci +1

      If you sell, Bailly (4m), Williams (7m), Maguire (30m), Fred (20m), Henderson (23m), Martial (25m).. that's 109 million back in the pot. Those are estimates obviously.. some you'd get more, some less. Man Utd have to sell to fund what will be considered a decent window.

  • @florme6494
    @florme6494 Před 10 měsíci +16

    He is probably the best player at total football. That’s why he was my favourite player at Chelsea. People get that confused as being the best individual player. He is no where near that. He allows managers to quickly change tactics in game without subbing and yet the standard won’t drop. He makes every player around him better with his intensity on and off the ball. He will improve Fernandez massively. It will go unnoticed but watch for his second assists.

    • @jorregritter3669
      @jorregritter3669 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I mean, it’s not like he was far off from being their best player

    • @ireplytostupidpeople4750
      @ireplytostupidpeople4750 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jorregritter3669 he isn't. Chelsea's best players have been Thiago Silva, Reece James etc. But there isn't one standout player from Chelsea

    • @GatterSzn
      @GatterSzn Před 10 měsíci +3

      He was their best player for the last couple of seasons

    • @obiigwe8349
      @obiigwe8349 Před 9 měsíci

      @@GatterSzn He was the fan favorite. Get it right

  • @user-lp3lo5iv9l
    @user-lp3lo5iv9l Před 10 měsíci

    Wonderful, thorough analysis. Thanks for these videos!

  • @keesh7
    @keesh7 Před 10 měsíci

    What is the app you guys use to show the pitch? I want to use it for my intramural team lol

  • @hanif-pl5hd
    @hanif-pl5hd Před 10 měsíci +2

    nice, how about amrabat, is he a good cdm for united, casemiro desperately needs cover especially with ucl matches

  • @abhishektyagi2128
    @abhishektyagi2128 Před 10 měsíci

    What you have not considered is the possibility of Ten Hag changing his system or moving some personnel around. For example he can play 4-3-3 with Bruno and Mount in 8 or he can use Bruno as an 8 and Mount in 10.
    He actually played Bruno in 8 a few times when Eriksen was injured and Sabitzer played in the 10 position, Bruno's performance in 8 were actually world class he has the vision, range of passing, clever touches and work rate to play in that position. This allows Mount to play in his preferred 10 and provide goals from open play, Bruno scores goals as well but I'll argue Mount is more prolific of the two.
    So for me it makes more sense to move Bruno to 8 and play Mount in 10 or play both as 8s and they can decide based on the situation who moves forward to support the attack

  • @kingof206
    @kingof206 Před 10 měsíci +12

    There’s actually not many players like him in football. The closest I can compare him to is Gavi from Barcelona.

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Can you elaborate? What is it that makes them unique? I agree though, they're both very particular 8/10 hybrids.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Mount does way more off the ball than Gavi IMO but Gavi might be slightly more technically gifted. What Mount lacks in skill and natural ability he makes up in tactical awareness which is why every manager he's played under absolutely loves him.

    • @jorregritter3669
      @jorregritter3669 Před 10 měsíci

      @@areebsiddiqui758dk the stats but Gavi isn’t a player that’s afraid to get stuck in

  • @steliosp1770
    @steliosp1770 Před 10 měsíci

    When United want someone to do the deep playmaker role and Case moves a bit further like you described, its more often than not Bruno who does that and he ll still do it because he has a great ping and Case is a brilliant header of the ball. that wont change. if anything it just simplifies things for United cause Mount's job will remain the same as it ll always be even when the situation calls for this "Switch" lets call it. Mount will be the box to box 8 with the license to make 3rd man runs at the edge of the box and Casemiro and Bruno will play around him not the other way around. Bruno is hugely intelligent positioning wise; go listen to his BT Interview with Rio Ferdinand (same series that they did with Modric - brilliant content btw if you re a young midfielder). Bruno talks about how he has to adapt in different games and modify his role - after all its a pretty free one - depending on the specific game and situation and what he s often found is that "marking the referee" as he called it is pretty effective cause oppo players tend to avoid the space that refs occupy and it often leaves a small gap that can be exploited. That's just one example.

  • @jopearson6321
    @jopearson6321 Před 10 měsíci

    It's very rare that the fans are wrong about a player. If the fans are unhappy to see them go, it usually means they are a sefless soul who is putting in the hard yards. They may not show up as often on highlight reels, but the season ticket holders definitely notice and appreciate.
    The core problem is the defensive/progressive side of the game is still hilariously underrated. Your defenders can generally function if your attack is not firing. But if your defence isn't cohering, then your attack is probably screwed too. Everything builds off the back.
    I've always felt that the most important and cutthroat position on the pitch is central defence, and consequently your central defenders are your most important players. But they rarely get rated as highly as strikers, attacking midfielders, or wingers. But technical skill ain't everything. Not even close.
    Similarly, good attacking players who also have good defensive upsides are underrated. But having a profile that is strong across the board is a lot rarer than people realize.

  • @johnjosh7539
    @johnjosh7539 Před 10 měsíci

    Nice input details. The only that worried for Mason is his ability on defend

  • @ranenekubia5351
    @ranenekubia5351 Před 10 měsíci

    @tifo - Please ask mr goal post to check his facts. Mount said in November - "I like to think I'm a traditional midfielder even though I can play a number of roles for the team," said Mount, speaking back in November. "I've always said that I'm best as a No.8 and I've played there ever since I was a young kid.

  • @benitojayadas1876
    @benitojayadas1876 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Also last season we ran our squad to ground so it's not ideal for mid fielders to start that much game

  • @BJatTheMovies
    @BJatTheMovies Před 10 měsíci

    Been waiting for this one, thank you lads!

  • @fergigaming3622
    @fergigaming3622 Před 10 měsíci

    I think he missed the detail that bruno is very efficient at the 8 role and played there a few times last season so a set up of mount 10 and bruno 8 could also be expected

  • @leo1fun
    @leo1fun Před 10 měsíci +1

    Casemiro/Mount are the two signings United needed for a good amount of 4 years in order to play properly a 4-3-3 with the strong wingers they've had. It makes me happy that Ten Hag pulled this off in 2 summers without problem. With Ole this goddamn team were NEVER linked to a proper CDM or to an alternative to Pogba, at the time.

  • @sayankumarbanerjee7653
    @sayankumarbanerjee7653 Před 10 měsíci +28

    I wish Manchester United bring in Onana and a number 9

    • @potetoesman
      @potetoesman Před 10 měsíci +2

      Costa is better

    • @sayankumarbanerjee7653
      @sayankumarbanerjee7653 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@potetoesman Yeah bud, but Onana has played under Erik ten Hag before but also Costa is younger.

    • @someone-zx1xh
      @someone-zx1xh Před 10 měsíci +6

      ​@@potetoesmanheight issues, onana is a lot more polished and a bigger character in the dressing room as he has shown in inter and ajax

    • @litti1047
      @litti1047 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Hojlund and onana are coming

    • @youngdaggerdick6323
      @youngdaggerdick6323 Před 10 měsíci

      And a rb and a cb and a cdm backup and a winger backup and a striker backup AND NEW OWNERS

  • @MusicAndMonologues
    @MusicAndMonologues Před 10 měsíci +4

    Bruno, Casemiro, Mount, Eriksen and Donny..... are all ballers. Comfortable with fast pace, two touch, through balls, passing forwards. Hark back to sideways Fred and McT and it looks like ETH class is in session. Might be worth watching again.

  • @Mason.Greenwood
    @Mason.Greenwood Před 10 měsíci

    15:33 casemero patrolling in the area, and that's all fine. *The Goat*

  • @RoughRunnerAce98
    @RoughRunnerAce98 Před 10 měsíci

    Great video John!

  • @benkidd4954
    @benkidd4954 Před 10 měsíci +18

    Any thoughts on United switching to a 433, and also using Bruno as an 8? To me that seems like the most logical solution, Ten Hag didn't seem to mind playing him deeper at times last season

  • @sephus99
    @sephus99 Před 10 měsíci

    They could also fit players into a 3box3 if they wanted now

  • @onwuegbuzieafamefuna5934
    @onwuegbuzieafamefuna5934 Před 10 měsíci

    Damn, Jon. This was really good. I mean, elite tactical analysis!

  • @skfootballislife
    @skfootballislife Před 10 měsíci +15

    As a Chelsea fan who has seen him play since his move to Chelsea, I like how you spoke about how he generates space and looks to make those tough passes but in reality, he doesn't make anywhere near the amount of passes he needs to. Another aspect of MM is he is pathetic as a double pivot and as a DLP if Casemiro is moving forward. However, he is good as a situational Double Pivot as seen form his many games. He is also not a No 10 as many believe. He has neither the vision nor the passion range for Bruno. He is a Henderson style of player, a pure 8 with a little bit of everything. He is a HUGE upgrade to MacFred without an iota of doubt.
    I don't believe you said that he can be in the either wing. He is horrible in that space. He played as an AMF in the front 3 of the 3421 formation. Having said that with a change in team and quality players around, he may be able to up the ante going next season. He is a huge presser and that I agree.

    • @jt19933
      @jt19933 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Mount will not play in the double pivot. If he does, it will be further up the field. As a situational pivot, Mount is fine dropping deep to collect the ball and playing progressive passes. I think you mistake pivot play as CDM. It's not the same thing.

    • @stormburns
      @stormburns Před 10 měsíci

      What "move" to Chelsea 😅

    • @RL-
      @RL- Před 10 měsíci

      @@stormburns following him since he was five years old 🧐😂

    • @stormburns
      @stormburns Před 10 měsíci

      @@RL- 6 years old you mean xD

    • @RL-
      @RL- Před 10 měsíci

      @@stormburns I just read something that said he was born in January 2000, so I thought he was still 23 for some reason 🤣

  • @ayomitideoriade6621
    @ayomitideoriade6621 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Mason mount was brought in to solve the jersey selling problem lol

    • @UtdGGMU0421
      @UtdGGMU0421 Před 10 měsíci +5

      if that was the case united would've signed neymar, Mount is not a shirt seller, it was a player who was a priority for ten hag, but you lot will find anyway to hate united 😂

    • @ayomitideoriade6621
      @ayomitideoriade6621 Před 10 měsíci

      Man U can’t afford Neymah….

    • @UtdGGMU0421
      @UtdGGMU0421 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@ayomitideoriade6621 they can? Neymar wouldn’t be more than 100 mil, probably way less actually 70-80

  • @M4NA5
    @M4NA5 Před 10 měsíci +19

    Man Utd. watched Tifo’s video “What does Mason Mount actually do?”

    • @midknight
      @midknight Před 10 měsíci +7

      I too have suspected United does research by CZcams and just going after whoever their rivals want

    • @chidoemeka2486
      @chidoemeka2486 Před 10 měsíci +1

      😂😂😂 people find way to make their minds happy .. smh

  • @d7sportz
    @d7sportz Před 10 měsíci +1

    can you make a video on how inter miami r affording all these elite players with them bein g a brand new team

  • @toph8298
    @toph8298 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Tifo July 2024: ‘Why Mason Mount was never a good fit for United’

  • @lozcontreras
    @lozcontreras Před 10 měsíci +1

    Regarding the deep lying playmaker, what people are forgetting is some of Bruno’s best performances came in this position. Mason could be pushed further forward to allow Bruno more time and space to control the game from a deeper position! It’s not a case of Mason Mount is definitely an 8 for MUFC… his arrival gives the option of Bruno being the 8!

  • @randomize4468
    @randomize4468 Před 10 měsíci +2

    There was a video for "why weghorst is perfect for man UTD so I'm nt surprised

  • @kuyikabasieffiong664
    @kuyikabasieffiong664 Před 10 měsíci +22

    Great video as always lads.
    Can we get a Timber analysis? I am curious what he could bring to Arsenal.

    • @Sub2MeSub2U
      @Sub2MeSub2U Před 10 měsíci +2

      He will start at RB and shift to CB in a 3 when Arsenal go from 4-3-3 to 3-4-3 box

    • @lubbeandersson4306
      @lubbeandersson4306 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Sub2MeSub2U
      And just keep White on the bench after an amazing season, seems weird

    • @Chango98
      @Chango98 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@lubbeandersson4306 We're hoping to be playing up to 60 games this season, both will see plenty of action. Look at how much back line rotation Man City got through last season

    • @Sub2MeSub2U
      @Sub2MeSub2U Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@lubbeandersson4306 it’s for depth, they have few CB options and if tierney leaves then tomiasu will play LB

  • @doctorfreezy2654
    @doctorfreezy2654 Před 10 měsíci

    Genuinely asking a question here...
    In the Chelsea example, wouldn't Jorginho have been a better pass because he'd put it directly on Havertz's left at a better shooting angle?
    Don't get me wrong, it's impressive that Mount has the technique to thread a pass like that, but in the context of getting the goal, it seems to me like the triangle would have set up a clearer chance...

  • @Nightsu
    @Nightsu Před 10 měsíci

    that best 11 availability graphic is criminal. genuinely didnt know it was that bad.

  • @GilbertOscar
    @GilbertOscar Před 10 měsíci

    If ETH goes with a double pivot, it could be Case and Bruno like he tried towards the end of last season, with Mount at 10

  • @cjarmstrong5939
    @cjarmstrong5939 Před 10 měsíci +1

    No question the quality and fit are bang on... but £60m for someone who has 1yr left on his contract & is desperate to come?
    It was similar with Casemiro - Madrid were desperate to recoup some money & had too many midfielders after buying Tchouameni & Camavinga. Utd also paid double what Anthony was worth.
    Consistent theme!

    • @harukrentz435
      @harukrentz435 Před 10 měsíci

      We have clowns in charge of negotiation. We spent so much time just to pay the original asking price.

  • @danecadette4714
    @danecadette4714 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Mason mount will give a bit of what Ten Hag wanted in Frenkie De Jong, carrying the ball and helping beat the press( not as good as De Jong ). Mount is also good at pressing like Bruno Fernandez. I have no doubt he will be a great signing

  • @JoevsFood1
    @JoevsFood1 Před 10 měsíci

    Where can I buy those football shirt prints in the background? 💸

  • @theportugueselegend
    @theportugueselegend Před 10 měsíci +5

    6 months from now: "Why Mason Mount isn't working for Manchester United"

    • @triggasoweto6734
      @triggasoweto6734 Před 10 měsíci

      Keep dreaming lmao. You all hate to see another mam do better than you gtfoh

    • @youngdaggerdick6323
      @youngdaggerdick6323 Před 10 měsíci

      Now we actually have an actual manager so think from now on things will work

  • @dianabialaskahansen2972
    @dianabialaskahansen2972 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I see him more as an 8 than a 10. Hardworking box to box midfielder.

  • @mmmihir
    @mmmihir Před 10 měsíci +52

    This signing tells me that Ten Hag is going to continue to play on the counterattack against good teams. With Bruno and Mount in the midfield along with a Onana for buildup and then a good striker up top, this team can compete.

    • @mercurialblonde
      @mercurialblonde Před 10 měsíci +28

      I think people have really misread Ten Hag's style. He's much closer to Klopp than Pep. His best Ajax team was so fun to watch because they were insane on the counter. Every thing he's done so far as a manager tells me he wants to have an aggressive pressing side that plays quickly through the thirds. Think how Liverpool used to play when Klopp first got there. Kind of funnny that it's also kind of Rangnick's vision.

    • @celtic69
      @celtic69 Před 10 měsíci +13

      Hojlund is also best in a counterattacking side, I think ETH has realised it’s going to take him a few years and a complete squad overhaul before he can implement the actual style he wants.

    • @eesafredericks2122
      @eesafredericks2122 Před 10 měsíci +5

      ​@@mercurialblonde Pep team has been very direct in comparison to previous teams
      Peak Ten Hag teams are dominant in possession but also deadly on the counter

    • @nickd987
      @nickd987 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@mercurialblonde not really tho, he used width from wingers just like pep and not attacking full backs like klopp. He sees defending as an opportunity to control the other team and not as an attacking situation in case the intense pressing works (like what klopp tries to do). He wants numbers in the middle to control possession and doesn't really use interchanging positions like klopp does (With salah-trent- henderson). I think he is just very pragmatic and used what he had at Utd this season. Don't forget Pep finished 4th in his 1st season with city, when he inherited a far more balanced and a successfull team than Ten Hag got from that Rangnick circus.

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@celtic69What do you think is missing? Technical and versatile players? I'd imagine Van De Beek and Sancho fits into the kind of football he wants to play, but neither have so far.

  • @mattlow1933
    @mattlow1933 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The media can make a player good overnight.

  • @akshaypadmashali8686
    @akshaypadmashali8686 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Mount has played deeper as a double pivot and those were his worst games in a Chelsea shirt... Honestly watching mount and havertz what I've seen is they are the best if they are played in a free role... Mount really presses well...but vacates the midfield a lot ... So u need to not play him anywhere where that will be an issue... Play him either cam or lw...

    • @samwize28
      @samwize28 Před 10 měsíci

      i think he will be on the right hand side of a 4-1-2-3, next to Bruno. Cas will anchor while Bruno and Mount run like crazy.
      In theory that will work and be an improvement on Eriksen (who could only manage 60mins of jogging every week) - but i worry about how Utd will still struggle to hold on to the ball and control games like they need to.

    • @akshaypadmashali8686
      @akshaypadmashali8686 Před 10 měsíci

      @@samwize28 I think that would leave casemiro isolated

    • @samwize28
      @samwize28 Před 10 měsíci

      @@akshaypadmashali8686 alot of prem sides operate with a single pivot CDM player. Klopp did with Fabinho for years.
      Cas if arguably the best in that role in the world - if he cant manage it nobody can.
      I suppose we will find out though. The worry will be if/when Cas is unavailable.

    • @akshaypadmashali8686
      @akshaypadmashali8686 Před 10 měsíci

      @@samwize28 of you have someone like Henderson to support.. who isn't gonna vacate like mount and Bruno..

    • @samwize28
      @samwize28 Před 10 měsíci

      @@akshaypadmashali8686 valid point. I think Bruno is more hardworking and able to operate deeper than you think though (as evidenced last season). I cant say the same about Mount but perhaps he can too.
      Overall i'm not thrilled by the signing. I would rather a controlling midfielder like FDJ, and my expectations for Utd on the pitch next season remains low.

  • @kyleowen6492
    @kyleowen6492 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Bruno Fernandes has never been unavailable

  • @connorjgodfrey
    @connorjgodfrey Před 10 měsíci

    This is a very, very good video, Mr Mackenzie.

  • @ayushsubedi6445
    @ayushsubedi6445 Před 10 měsíci +1

    If ETH has signed then it will be usefull, unlike previous blind signings, which were mere done for commercial purposes

  • @Anu4ManU
    @Anu4ManU Před 9 měsíci

    Awesome video.👌👌

  • @aacistrlcoholic2
    @aacistrlcoholic2 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I usually hate Utd but I want Mount to do well and prove the haters wrong

  • @rafayetrahmanratul1059
    @rafayetrahmanratul1059 Před 10 měsíci

    I had to zoom to check the green blocks for Martial.

  • @MisterO98
    @MisterO98 Před 10 měsíci +6

    I believe we will add Sofyan Amrabat to our midfield crew and sell Scott Mctominay and Fred leaving us with Christian Eriksen, Bruno Fernandes, Mason Mount, Casemiro, Sofyan Amrabat and Donny Van De Beek(He'll be like a new signing this coming season and is a much better player than either Fred or Scott by far). That's a good midfield with quality options if you ask me. It will be interesting to see what EtH does with Kobbie Mainoo, Hannibal Mejbri and Charlie Savage. Great analysis by Tifo btw!!!

    • @rwalker0130
      @rwalker0130 Před 10 měsíci

      VDB is gone this year. best of luck to him but he didn't impress with the chances he got last year

  • @Thisisyourchannel97
    @Thisisyourchannel97 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks for analysis

  • @adriansteele7023
    @adriansteele7023 Před 10 měsíci

    Id like to see mount hold Bruno's spot for 60 mins and then give bruno 30 mins as a super impact sub

  • @PoliAstroN
    @PoliAstroN Před 10 měsíci +1

    “When Bruno isn’t available”
    My brother, Bruno is the single most available player in the world. He played what, 74 matches last season? He always plays

  • @EchoMachineOne
    @EchoMachineOne Před 10 měsíci

    Also Mount fixes the right wing, utd are overly reliant on the left. Mount will bring balance to the attack. I see him alongside Bruno with casemiro sat behind.

  • @aylu
    @aylu Před 10 měsíci +1

    What if they opt for a box midfield in possession? Lisandro or dalot becoming the 2nd pivot, Bruno and mount as 8s

    • @iad77
      @iad77 Před 10 měsíci

      Exactly ETH likes to play with 1 inverted FB or tucking in and Martines stepping up....

  • @JoeyKneecap
    @JoeyKneecap Před 10 měsíci +6

    At 250-300k a week, he better contribute.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Před 10 měsíci

      Can say the same for almost any player in United's squad.

  • @Xavyer13
    @Xavyer13 Před 10 měsíci

    Seems like a very dynamic player to KEEP THE TEN HAGGIAN NARRATIVE GOING STRONG :3

  • @sarakeem.213
    @sarakeem.213 Před 10 měsíci

    Great analysis mate👍🏼

  • @bogstandardash3751
    @bogstandardash3751 Před 10 měsíci

    I hope to be wrong, but if United wanted a mobile no 8, why not buy a recognised mobile no 8.
    DVB is very able to play that role but is very much surplus to requirements.

  • @ILKILO1
    @ILKILO1 Před 10 měsíci

    Honestly I think it's Bruno who gets shifted deeper into midfield and Mount occupying the attacking midfield role or even the right wing role in the tighter games.

  • @shirogane16
    @shirogane16 Před 10 měsíci

    Im just glad we signed player that want to join united

  • @kevinrod14
    @kevinrod14 Před 10 měsíci

    Keep them coming! 🫡

  • @glaiver4ever
    @glaiver4ever Před 10 měsíci +1

    Bruh, you guys said the same when we signed Weghorst! I'll just wait to see what happens on the pitch 😂

  • @user-hf1nw4ok8y
    @user-hf1nw4ok8y Před 10 měsíci

    As a chelsea fan and someone who loves mount, I can tell you 2 things.
    1) you paid 20 mill more his actual worth
    2) is absolutely trash playing deeper role (CM), his best position is CAM or the left attack

  • @martinkerrmusic
    @martinkerrmusic Před 10 měsíci

    Cutting edge sports journalism is taking nearly 20 minutes to say: this guy is good because he can play in a few different positions...

  • @archipiratta
    @archipiratta Před 10 měsíci

    As a Utd fan it's bittersweet to some extent coz Donnie was supposed to be that Mobile 8 that we got Mount for. Hopefully we can also resurrect that career

    • @iad77
      @iad77 Před 10 měsíci

      Sadly seems the premier League just isn't suited to him.....

    • @iad77
      @iad77 Před 10 měsíci

      I was just as sad when Kagawa didn't work out, he was such a great player but couldn't do it in the premier League.... And look at Sancho....😕

  • @aneeshmenon3379
    @aneeshmenon3379 Před 10 měsíci +1

    For me, he is a Sancho replacement. Effectively a better no 10, a better presser, better defensively, worse on the edge of the box. But overall it's a positive. Sancho needs to go

    • @King1000x
      @King1000x Před 10 měsíci

      Not signing him to play on the wing

  • @psysoul972
    @psysoul972 Před 10 měsíci

    Wow mate. What an analysis.

  • @ZexaXIII
    @ZexaXIII Před 10 měsíci

    Was waiting just for this.