THE MYSTICAL UNDERTONE!!
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2019
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GOLDEN Overtones with COOL Undertones:
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Is Red Warm or Cool:
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What are Warm and Cool Colors:
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I absolutely love your approach! Questioning conventional instructions, being open-minded, following facts and evidence and finally finding the essential simplicity in the chaos of misleading terminology. This is exactly what I try to do in my field and right now, I feel like hugging you :D Keep it up, greetings from Slovakia!
Unrelated but my sister is a soft gamine who had very long hair and we cut it pretty short and wow it made a huge difference and she looks amazing!
Loving that
I think some pictures are deceiving because of the lighting. Artificial light gives a bluish or ashy hue on some skins and natural light or a particular time of the day, can give a golden light because of the sun light, also some cameras captures light differently.. I guess you have to make this tests under a different light to get it right.
Dear Merriam, I just love and adore the way your undisputable logic and facts completely mow down and do away with the 'fluff' and 'mysticism' surrounding colour analysis!
Thank you for restoring its usefulness, its practicality, and distilling from it the simplicity, the trees in the forest!
Your passion is very contagious, and I hope you'll continue down your path with unwavering zeal!
Many thanks from me ^.^
Merriam, this is fantastic. You suggested I may be warm and delicate and now I do see it. My skin color is so tricky because I have that pale olive skin tone that could be mistyped as cool and I thought for a long time I was cool however what made it so hard was that I have lots of blue veins that mix with the yellow undertone (hence the strong green cast) I look less warm than aishwayra which made me think even inside a whole category of skin undertone there is an spectrum. I agree that it shouldn’t be as complicated as some claim.
Yay! And yes, completely agreed that there is an infinite number of undertones (and temperatures) within each of the four categories--it's really on a spectrum! :)
Merriam Style ❤️ thank you for this amazing info, you’re so talented!
Thank you for sharing your insights, Merriam. Your videos have revolutionized my understanding of personal color analysis, and I've now developed quite the passion for the subject. Thanks for getting me hooked!
I think it would be fun with a video about lipstick colors for the four types ❤️ Is there a nude for brighter types? Is there a brighter red for softer types?
I really appreciate your knowledge, experience and how clearly you articulate where you are coming from. No nonsense. ❤️
That's interesting you say its easy to mis-type a very pale warm skin, this has been my experience. I went to 3 colour consultants and 2 said winter, 1 said summer (the WORST, I looked like death). The colors looked terrible. Then I went to a 4TH consultant AND she said I was a spring. All the colours worked and I got compliments. The first consultants claimed I couldn't be a spring as ALL springs have to be blonde (I was golden blonde until a teenager), and tanned?? The last consultant that got it right said that springs can have any hair color and be any skin depth.
Yes! That's so awesome that you finally found someone who was able to figure it out. I've always been going on and on that it's all about the skin! Doesn't matter if it's deep or light, doesn't matter how dark your hair is, what matters is the red/yellow/blue balance of the skin (I'm not sure if that's how this color analyst did it, but there are multiple ways to come to the same correct conclusion for your colors), but to me, it's the skin undertone itself that determines *both* your best temperature *and* your best chroma, and then if you have dark hair you can just wear the darker colors of your palette. Thank you for sharing!
Delicate skin tones are harder for most to type, especially if they aren't specifically color analysts. I've gotten a host of answers myself. Most just say you're a neutral or base it off stereotypes, like the tan blonde comment.
I’ve been really confused about this as well, when I do the regular 12 seasons way of trying to find my season, they always recommend colors I know make me look terrible. I’m almost certain I’m a spring too, and the examples are always of blonde women.
If I were you, I would want my money back, lol.
I think you are right saying that the mysticism starts when the situation gets confusing. It does not only apply to colour analysis ;)
Your system is the best! I started out looking at the 12 seasons, and it almost made sense, but it was too complicated, and it mysteriously leaves out certain combinations of hue, value and intensity. I am a painter and have studied color theory, so I have been able to pretty confidently figure out my own undertone. I'm warm and radiant, but the most important factor is that I have high contrast, so the colors generally need to be either significantly darker than my skin, or significantly lighter, aka white-ish. I could call myself a "deep autumn," but it's more precise to know exactly what factors make a color work for me, instead of just following a pallet somebody else came up with, without understanding what those colors have in common or why they were chosen.
I’d like to vote for the pale olive skin tone video that was suggested by Nala 305. I am in this category. Traditionally I’m in the “20” category of foundations eg MAC NC/NW20 in the summer and I’m paler in the winter. I have a slight greenish cast to my skin. Foundations are either too pink, too grey, too yellow or too orange on me.
Go Merriam! The ridiculous scenario at the end of minute 13 is hilarious, and a good point!
You nail it all the time!!! I love it! Thank you!
Thank you so much for training our eyes. I learn so much with each video. I hope it helps me to find my best looks ;)
More on pale olive skin please. 😊
so many things I love about your video: constructing skin colors by using the fabric swatch and translucent circles. second, you said to tilt the screen and that was so #hiTech
Haha!
The way you talk about colors is almost science. I really like it. Whent I started to learn about colors I was very confused, because it felt like ladies with too much free time chat about their horoscope. :D You make this topic more logical.
I would love to hear about the biological background of the human skin. What types of melanin makes cool and warm undertone? I'm sure that it has some genetic background.
yes please also talk about analysing pictures!
I wonder how much rosacea messes up the colour of the face. I've noticed many try to hide it by excessive green or yellow toned foundation, but won't that just make it even harder?
9:29 “ there’s nothing underneath the skin, there’s nothing underneath the fabric. It’s just a mixture...”
Me (yelling out loud): “overtone is basically what you see most and undertone is what you see next! I FINALLY UNDERSTAND!” 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
You know it’s quality content when you’re excited to learn 😂👌
This video was so funny you make a lot of sense
I'm new to your channel so maybe you already have, but if you haven't could you do a video were you recommend the best hair colour for your skin tone and undertone 🙏? It would be so helpful!!
Thank you, I love your explaining it trains my eyes I love how I learn and work without much effort.
And yes I think a video on typing through pictures to understand your process would be amazing! You're a great pedagogue!
Is the first cool red you show considered bright/ radiant/high chroma? the darker is the color the harder it is for me to identify the chroma of it.
Yeah sure, bounce light is a thing. However it's affects are limited and mostly visible in shadows. Just make sure that the light source source is not some blue disko lights and you should be fine
Could you do one on all kinds of olive skins and not just the pale ones? Every other video is about pale olive skins. For example, I have medium olive tone that tans to a few shades darker in summer.
you explain it so well! I think I might be one of those warm and delicate "cool undertones warm overtones" people cause everywhere I read says I have cool undertones(my skin is light and has olive undertones for sure, besides the warm/cool thing, and it's not really yellow? I have some redness in it in general and from hormones) but cool colors look disgusting on me lmao yeah I stand out in front of them but so do my eye bags and I look more pale and silver looks cheap on me while warm colors and gold glow with me. the only warm colors that can be tricky are green and orange/red because if their shade is close to the color of my olive skin or my ginger hair I blend in completely and look like a glowing mass which isn't the best look unless that's what you're going for haha
Maybe you're a pale olive like me!
@@nala3055 I am! took me a while to figure that out since olive undertones are rarely talked about lmao
Would you do a color analysis of Gwendoline Christie? She’s so gorgeous and I can’t for the life of me figure it out!
I figured as a deep autaumn that my best colors are cool versions of warm colors 🤷🏻♀️
The red colour you use in this video is almost the colour i like to wear mostly. So it's cool hhh
Very logical. More than just your opinion. (INTP-- I love logic ;))
Could you please do Sandra Bullock, Anne Hathway and Kate Beckinsale? I would LOVE to know what are their body types! Could you do a list of celebrities for each body type??? THANK YOU!
I notice that my eyes are different in different settings. They are even different temperatures, depending on warm or cool. I have been wondering how color analysis can be accurate for comelians. I think I spelled that right😏. I definitely agree that our colors around us are going to be different everywhere we go. We do need to have our personal palette recognize that, and work with
it.
Hi,
Thank you so much for your helpful videos! I've learnt a lot!
I do have a quick question which I hope you could help me with.
I generally have an olive skin tone, and under your colour system I think I would be warm and delicate. However, I suffer from rosacea so my face is a lot different compared to the rest of my body (it looks more of a dull pinky/orange instead of a light warm olive). What colours would you suggest I wear? I feel that some colours look great against my natural skin tone but look terrible against my face (I don't generally wear foundation).
I have dark hair and dark features but a light medium skin tone so have traditionally been told to wear deep winter colours which look okay but I don't think it's quite right.
I know I look nice in Burgundy, teal and army green but I also know that a light antique gold looks really nice against my body but not my face. What would you suggest I do?
Thank you so much for your help! Keep up the wonderful videos!
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I am not a color expert but I trained my eye pretty well by now. For radiant overtones, I can tell just by looking at the person. When I doubt, I watch them with muted clothing and that's how I can tell, lol.
I would like some help choosing a good hair colour. In artistic license I am a winter. I have dark brown hair naturally but the sun turns my ends a terrible gold colour that makes me look sick so I have to dye it to cover it.
Yesssss pale olive!
i might try this technique. i know it is hard but anyways can you guys tell what i might be judging from my profile picture?
How about when you get a tan? Does your tone change?
can you show some examples of warm vs cool greens/ grays/ beige, browns/ reds?
yeah and pink too
I honestly dont know if im radiant warm or delicate warm
I've the same problem! 😭 Warm clear jewel tones look best on me and I can push to muted olives and terracotta. I look completely washed out in peach. But I look best in muted makeup. 🙆 Clear warm lipsticks overpower my face! What is happening! 😭😭
@@miaramani maybe the peach is just too light for you because of your contrast (meaning you probably have hair and eyebrows that are much darker than your skin)? I have the same thing, so going darker to a dark terracotta and dark warm brown looks way better
Have you written a book yet? If not you should.
Are you familiar with ‘simultaneous contrast’? I was researching the other day and it basically says that the human eye doesn’t objectively consider colors as they are but adjust everything according to all the colors around and surrounding the thing we look at. Maybe that’s why it’s weird to have a tomato red top next to your face in the mirror as someone is being draped? If someone is very dusty and there’s a tomato red color next to the face the face would automatically look grey as if they were draped that color cuz whether it’s being reflected on the face or not the color is next to the face on the mirror which triggers simultaneous contrast, what do you think?
I am re posting this comment hoping to get your reaction. As a natural red gold blond with yellow to neutral undertone skin I always wondered why I looked so good in muted mauve and burgundy lip colors. Then I saw this- @ video titled "This is not BLUE (a lesson in color theory)" about science of color. So... Green and magenta are the most neutral colors. Rocked my world.
I would say you are warm and delicate! How do you look in magenta? It’s a very difficult color to wear....it’s for cool and radiant. Color analysis isn’t to be confused with color theory.
How would I know if I have olive skin?
What is Nazanin's body type?
Can you talk about foundation for warm and delicate people?
You should check princess peachy's video about olive skin. It helps a lot. She uses asian brands because they have more options of different yellow based foundations.
I need warm and delicate foundation for black people. Lol. I should have been more specific.
Which video talks about the cool undertones with golden overtones?
Amber Cotrone It’s in her description
Maybe you guys can help me out - in my picture I think I look cool and delicate (might be wrong though). But as soon as I start getting a tan I look better in warm and delicate colors since I have more pigment.
I wonder if some people use different colors palettes based on the season. Or if you’re better off sticking with one undertone, which one do you choose?
She did a video like this on red haired people and their pale skin and it applies to other people with pale skin too! According to what you described you are a warm and delicate undertone because the pigment you gain on tanning is of a warm type and when you are not tanned you lack pigment hence you seem cool :D
Once upon a Dango Thanks! I watched that video but I wasn’t sure if that made me warm and delicate even when I’m paler. My blue veins are more visible so I appear cooler.
@@cozybrandi I see I don't know how accurate the vein test is to be honest I think people can have uneven pigmentation but I guess experimentation with soft colour palettes will help you :D
I think you are always warm and delicate, but, as you’re close to ‘neutral’, cool colours don’t look bad either. I’m the same.
Keapix You’re probably right because I think I look okay in both. I tried Merriam’s jewelry test and while silver is fine, I look better in rose gold.
You are very intelligent!
I know there is a lot of ask for olive tones. But I would personally be very interested in a video about pink and peach skintones. I am a very pale peach myself.
So undertone= the temperature
Overtone= the basic (neutral) colour.
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By the way, I did the 'make color with ovals of blue, red and yellow' thing in photoshop myself. I pipetted parts of my skin ( a redder part, a paler part and a yellower part)
Each time, I had majority red (which would make me the opposite of olive skintones), and blue and yellow was nearly equal - just a tad more yellow than blue, only with the pale part, there I put the blue (and black, too) on zero transparency and it were just two very slight circles of yellow and red. There the yellow was on 5% and the red on 3%...That's how pale I am. The inside of my underarm, nearly literally white according to photoshop.
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What about warm pinks and cool pinks?
Maham Zahid I *think* that’s been covered in an older video. If I’m remembering correctly, they’re all cool, but some are cooler than others.
Keapix If you watch the video about warm overtones in the description (the one with Emilia Clarke) Merriam talks about warm pinks and cool pinks. Pinks definitely aren’t all cool.
Long post incoming:
While I do agree that some systems take the "grey/white room/robe/EVERYTHING" a bit too far, the neutral surroundings aren't there merely to not cast certain colours onto the client (like a very bright wall could), but also to make the client the focus (both psychologically and literally), and make it easier for her/him to focus on the colours in question. If everything is rather neutral (not everything has to be white or grey, but preferably not a large amount of bright colours close to the client), it's easier (especially for the client) to see the effects on the skin when compared to the coloured drape. If the consultant is wearing a royal blue shirt and the drape in question clashes with that, this might pull the focus away from the drape and the skin (especially as the consultant often stands behind the client). Also, if the client colours their hair (say, she's a light summer that colours her hair pitch black), that too may interfere with the analysis. Not that the consultant necessarily might be swayed by the dyed hair (even if the dark hair might be distracting and always have a bad effect on the skin), but the client might (she might love her pitch black hair and think that because the light summer colours clash with it those aren't really her best colours). And one of the points of having a RL consultation is for the client to actually see the effects the different colours have on her/him. Often, a client strongly prefers certain colours and might need some extra convincing if those are not her/his best colours. If your royal blue blouse is in a colour your black haired light summer *really* likes, the tiffany blue drape that looks stunning on her might look boring to her compared to your blouse. While you will run into that issue when pulling out the winter drapes, they're not there all the time to remind her of the colours she prefer over her best colours. TL;DR: The neutral surroundings are there not only to get rid of extraneous variables, but also to be beneficial to the client.
In regards to overtones and undertones, I think you're misrepresenting how most systems refer to them. The terms are different not because there is a mystical veil underneath the skin, but because that's how you talk about colour in art. Talking about a "veil" is sometimes done to illustrate it to people who are not as familiar with colour. It's simply represented as sheer blocks of colour that overlap (as you do in your video) to show how a colour changes. As colour analysis draw a lot from colour and art theory, a lot of the terms have carried over. It has nothing do to with "mysticism" or trying to make colour analysis into something it's not. As you know, the overtone is simply the colour we are able to see, like a red or a brown. The undertone is the colour of which it pulls, say a yellow that pulls cool (green->blue) or warm (orange). While you often can see when a skin is warmer or cooler, we might be fooled a bit by some who have a lot of ruddiness or sallowness to their skin, regardless of undertone. Draping is thus useful as the right colours often make these conditions less obvious. Overtones can also be tricky as they can be seen as temporary changes to the skin, caused by for example certain medications, illnesses, a sunburn, or self tanning.
I would always drape. It's not only for you as the consultant, but also for the client to see which colours are the best. Analysing someone without drapes makes it easy to go in the stereotyping trap, e.g. automatically putting all blondes with a rosy tinge to their skin in the summer category. Maybe that person you thought looked like a summer ended up looking so much better in typical winter colours. The more seasons/colour groups you have, the more important draping becomes. I think you always should drape (RL drapes, not photoshopped "drapes") if you can - why opt out of it? Getting a colour analysis isn't cheap, so no corners should be cut.
Thanks for your well thought out comment! I agree that there are other benefits to having a neutral background and room, especially to the client. So even with that benefit alone, it might be worth it to have primarily neutral colors that aren't too bright in a color analyst's studio.
About misrepresenting how most of the field sees the undertone, I certainly didn't mean to say that *all* color analysts see the undertone as this 'mystical veil' underneath the skin, and some, or even maybe most, do realize that it's just the color. But unfortunately, this is a myth that's circling around the field, especially clear when we're talking about 'golden overtones with cool undertones'. Seeing the undertone as if it's literally underneath the skin (which I've absolutely seen even pretty good color analysts say) is a spectrum of seeing it literally, to seeing it sort of literally like even what you may be doing through your comment. Let me explain what I mean.
For example, if someone's pigment changes for whatever reason, and they're now warmer because of medication (not if they have spots of warmth or discoloration, with their cool undertone showing through, but if their entire skin is now uniformly warmer), or because of a spray tan, this person is now warm. This is especially true if someone wears self tanner. If they do a good job, and also apply the warm tanner to their face, we won't see that they have a cool undertone naturally--it becomes irrelevant and wouldn't make sense for them to wear cool colors in this case, if they plan on always wearing self tanner religiously, and don't plan on being their natural cool undertone for very long at any given time. This is the idea of the 'mystical undertone' coming into play in a less literal way (the thinking process of 'we have to find the undertone of this person if they *weren't* using tanner or if they *weren't* on medication, and this is what we're after, even though it's irrelevant now since they're warm, only *because* their 'natural' or 'healthy' undertone used to be cool, they must stilllll wear cool colors' (and by the way, it's a lost cause to try to figure that out if the person is warm now)). I'm not sure how you personally feel about this, but I've seen that idea floating around way more than I want.
And yes, I'd always drape in person (even if I don't have to), because why not do our due diligence, and also for the experience of the client. I say even in the video that it's a great tool, there's no reason to stop using it, both to confirm the typing for ourselves as color analysts, and to create an experience for the client where they can also see where you're coming from.
About color analysis being expensive, and this is why we need to do all these drapings, I disagree with what could be insinuated here. Color analysis is expensive because it's valuable, not because it's difficult. However, as I hint in the video, some businesses like to make it seem artificially obscure and difficult, by creating a ton of subseasons, and also by creating a cumbersome draping process to make it seem like it's this huge thing and that's why they can charge more for it.
Oh and the last thing is about the close relation of color analysis with color theory, which is a whole separate video. But I do find that in color analysis, we often misuse color theory so badly!
Anyway, again, thank you for leaving this comment, constructive criticism is one of my favorite types of comments, and I do agree that a neutral background would still be valuable to both consultant and client to varying degrees, for reasons different from what I stated in the video! So I'm happy you brought that to my attention!
Draping is when you drape the cloth around you to see how it makes you look - good or bad. Draping helps you see how the color affects your face/skin. Draping is not comparing two colors to each other.
Um yes I know, sorry that wasn't clear. But you can drape any color against another color to see if it's warm or cool. When we drape against the skin, we compare it with the cool or warm color to see if it's harmonious. You can technically drape anything though.
You were clear, some people just aren't paying attention.
Honey - I love your clips. Why you sound most of the time so frustrated? 😅 Are we viewers idiots?
Evelina Mustonen i don’t think she’s frustrated with viewers, i think she’s frustrated with the state of color analysis and all the misinformation that it teaches