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Salman Hameed from Kainaat Studios comes back on The Pakistan Experience for a wildly interesting podcast on the Origins of the Universe, Galaxies and Supermassive Black Holes.
On this episode we discuss the James Webb Telescope, the Big Bang, Cosmology, Intelligent Design, The Trial of Galileo, Abdus Salam, Suparco, The Contribution of Muslims, Aurora Borealis, Solar Eclipses, Pakistan's mission to the Moon and Chandrayaan.
Kya Zameen Sakin Hay?
What can Pakistan learn from India's Space Achivements?
Is there a crisis in Cosmology?
Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.
Salman Hameed is the founder and CEO of the non-profit Kainaat Studios, that creates topical astronomy videos in Urdu for audiences in Pakistan (and broader South Asia). He is also Charles Taylor Chair and Professor of Integrated Science & Humanities at Hampshire College, Amherst, Massachusetts. He holds a Ph.D. in astronomy and is a member of the Five College Astronomy Department (FCAD), but his research is inter-disciplinary and it focuses on analyzing how science interacts with society. Science communication is still his primary focus. Salman has a CZcams Channel (Kainaat Astronomy) for Urdu videos and a weekly astronomy segment in English for a New England Public Radio (NEPM) in Massachusetts. Through Kainaat Studios, he also produces astronomy content in Urdu specially aimed at kids in Pakistan. His writings have appeared in Dawn Magazine, Express Tribune, Science Magazine, and the Guardian.
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Chapters
0:00 Introduction
2:00 Has the James Webb Telescope disproved the Big Bang?
7:15 How to calculate the size and distance from brightness
15:40 Galaxies, Space and the Milky Way
25:10 Crisis in Cosmology and the Hubble Constant
29:00 Intelligent Design Movement
33:50 Origin of the Universe and God
43:00 Zameen Sakin Hai and Galileo
57:30 Spanish Golden Age, Renaissance and Contribution of Muslims
1:11:30 Abdus Salam
1:20:50 Suparco, China and America
1:39:00 Stars in the Sky and the Aurora Borealis
1:54:30 Pakistan's mission to the Moon
1:58:27 India's Space Achievement and what can we learn from it
2:08:00 Audience Questions - Zábava
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Why should Pakistan learn to go against Khudrat ke Nizam ?❤😂😅🎉
Nokia 1100 can click better beautiful pictures than iCube of Pakistan 😂😅🎉❤
*kisi ne sahi kaha hai ki Pakistaniyo ke Jaban ki lambai unke Salwar se bhi badi hoti hain*
*Jhoot bolne main kabhi thakte nahi*
*Whenever Pakistani Lies,Then Everywhere Islam Dies*
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*Current Chairman of "Suparco" is Major General Amer Nadeem Hi from Pakistan Army whereas chairman of "ISRO" is S. Somanath a Aeronautical Engineer from Indian Space Sector*
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@@abhaywalvekar😅😅😅
Get educated. India is first country to reach Mars in first attempt. Not China
India never landed on Mars. It has only orbited around it.
He talking mars lander, China is way ahead of india , we will catch up
@@ashvinn15 I'm talking abt first successful landing. China took 4 attempts but it hide those from. Media and said we only put into orbit and no landing for those failed attempts to it's citizens. Wake up. Don't be so dumb to get lure by unproven statements.
China successfully landed on Mars in the first attempt.
One thing I like about Paxstanis ki yeh sab Mungeri Lal hain. It is so entertaining to see them sitting and discussing big big things which are centuries away for them. Mungeri Lal ke Haseen Sapne. Dekho. Sapne dekhne k liye abhi tak Paxstan Army ne paabandi nahin lagai hai.
😂😂 very true
Khwabi pulao project mein KABHIE bhi ghee ki kami nahee honi chahiyay.
After all its about freaking DELUSIONAL imagination.🙏
You just stole my words bro 😂
Binday apnay khud bharat mai bhet kai kya ukhar liya khud ko baap ghar sai Nikal ta hai aur yaha attention seek kartay ho😂
On point...
China had a failed first mars mission.
There is no country in this world which has not failed in space missions ((china included)).
Papa China (chaina) kee chaatni hai ..aise kaise !!!
chinese did fail a Mars mission in early days 😂
Chinese failure is not a failure for Paxstanis. Paxstanis are very loyal servants. Whether it is the Chinese or Arabs.
@@vikasbhargava5653Or turks
@@vikasbhargava5653 but their official non biological abbu is US. Obviously we are the biological abbu. Step-abbus are Arabs and Chinese.
In fact - the Indian mission to mars was the first country to reach without failure. These guys have their heads so far up their...
Bro they are Pakistani intellectual how can you aspect true from their mouth
People who don't know 1.cube sat in India are made by IIT students in inter college compitition, so its not at all a tecnological marvel.
2. The photoes sent by sparco of moons surface are soo bad that even a 5000 dollar telescope can give you 100 time better pictures .
3. Pak do'nt even have any independent capability to sent sate light in space , so sending something to moon is just impossible for them
In short they are at least 50 to 70 years behind of India 😊
Not just IIT, i have seen school students had sent some satellite projects
Private to govt many universities have successfully developed or have been
Launch it to space then?
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Who says it’s a technological marvel? But it’s a commendable achievement for the student involved ! Talking about India , it has progressed in space tech but DRDO is still 70 hrs behind China and is still a 3rd world extremely poor country. So still a lot to work on !
@@adity126 aree bro for university level its a big achievement, but for a country of 24 crore and 450 billion economy and nuclear weapons its not at all a engineering marvel , and I think you misunderstood me I said its good on university level not on national level
*Current Chairman of "Suparco" is Major General Amer Nadeem Hi from Pakistan Army whereas chairman of "ISRO" is S. Somanath a Aeronautical Engineer from Indian Space Sector*
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Chand mein Bomb 💣 fenkenge 😂😂
Don't you indians have anything better to do. If you spent the amount of energy you spend on Pakistan, on progress. Humanity would be far better off.
Stop worrying about Pakistan we have enough of our own problems to worry about you.
The guest is straight from
MUNGERI LAL KE HASEEN SAPNE SHOW.
the way he speak is more like a 10th class student giving his views.
Yarr, dont insult our 10th std students. These kids are very smart.
It never fails to amaze me that despite having some sensible people, Pakistan is still regressing.
Woh bahir Boston chalay jatay
Even the sensible sounding people let out some amazing wondrous made up facts 'china is the first to send to mars without failure' when it fact it was India that was the first to get to Mars on its first attempt
If this is a sensible guy then he’s not accurate 😂😂 . Maybe that should tell you the reason .
Bcz no one listens to them
These are not sensible people
#China destroyed 1000 #mosque and removed all minars, killing million muslims there. But he says pak chin bhai behen. What ignorance & hypocrisy with slavery mindset 😂😂
China aapke yaha road banane ke liye to Aadmi apne yaha se le aata hai aur ye sapne dekh rahe hai ki inko space items banane dega.😂
Pakistani din mein khwaab zabardast dekhte hai.
FYI, China don't use foreigners for labour they use their own even if they are building in different countries.
Why do these guys keep lying about satellites that it getting smaller and smaller, which is absolutely not true. it's all depends on the mission, and according to the mission, satellite size will be its nothing about small or big
Inko kuch pata nhi hota hai bhai.
Punjabi may ek kahavat hay 'thook may pakode talna' very well fit for pakistani Mungeri lal
jab china road banane ke liye apne citizens le kr ata hai wo inko space equipments Banane dega
#AllEyesOnReasi
Make video on Reasi
India is the ONLY country in the world to reach Mars in the first attempt.
In my mother tonge DOGRI a say " galle da karah banna te mitha kat ki panna" means if you want to make halwa ( a sweetdish) of talks then you have no limit of sugar.this person is exact example to reflect that say.
Nice 👍
BTW , karah means the same as Karah parshad served in Gurudwaras ?
Jo mulk 1-1 billion dollar ke liye taras raha ho wo chand per jaane ki baat kaise kar sakta hai 😂😂😂😂😂
Jaisa railway patri pe hagne wale chand per jaane ki karte the kuch saal pehle 😅
@@scientia.veritas to kya tere muh per hag de 😀😀😀
Don't you see how similar you sound to westerners just 30 years ago. When they said the same things about india. Let's start building each other up instead of tearing down.
Ye hai kon? Is he a space scientist!? Or you just picked a sasak chap from the road? 😮
Astronomer hai bo
It's not chotta sa rover , Pakistanis create kids satellite 😂😂
As a Pakistani I fully support and love respect and support India and Indian army on Kashmir issue from Pakistan 🙂
Yes, it will truly make pak free to be honest 😅
No country has landed on moon in their 1st attempt yet, not even China
Yes
Shehzad pls give your stand-up comedy video link
These days he is doing sit up comedy
Such an intellectual channel from Pakistan with about 1% Pakistani viewers and 99% Indian viewers. Indians listening avidly from excellent Pakistani intellectuals and profiting from their knowledge. And my countrymen? Inspite of Sehzad's best efforts. The same is true of" the Blackhole " also.
If you are a Pakistani. I got news for you.
The Indians are here for the entertainment, not knowledge.
Gloves Aur Screws Bhi Rehne Do Bhai ... 😑
Tumhaarey Bas Ki Nahi Hai 🤗
A cube made from a technology given by China. It was launched in a space in Chinese rocket with the Pakistani level on it now Pakistan has progress and having a space technology. What a job
Too many flaws and loop holes in the guests arguments .....
China failed the first Mars mission
Yeah Tumhara best space knowledge walla hai!! There is a reason why your country is where it is. Living in the shadow of china is all you can think of
Once you start believing the book, it rots your brain completely 😂
Please adore it as a student satellite. Don't hype it. Mungeri laal ke haseen sapne mat banao. Just look at the pictures sent by that cube satellite. Someone with a decent telescope can capture a better image from Earth itself.
Space research ke liye high level scientific education chahiye. Does Pakistan invest on primary level scientific education
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Guest has no knowledge of- just blabbering, there are more than 300 registered space-tech start-ups in India
Most recent, Agnikul Cosmos was able to successfully carry out the sub-orbital test-flight of its home-built 3D-printed semi-cryogenic rocket -- Agnibaan -- from its own launch pad at Sriharikota, making it India's second private entity to do so.
Our prophet split the moon in 2. We need more Islam not less.
China not belief Pakistan. For space far better technocrats,engineer, scientists are there in china.
Mungeri lal ke hasin sapne, Pakistanis are better in comedy characters.
Pehle deen ke according yeh to pata kar kee zameen gol hai ya chapti....i mean these people are amazing, with "jazba and talent" they can even travel faster than light may be even solve "string theory" ...oh god what am i thinking.....😅😅😅
Tu best hai bhai pakistan me baith kar truth and fact rakhta hai ❤
Hats of brother ❤
I'm Indian
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They even had to bring in chinese students for a university project😭
Pakistan's military industrial complex is just Darra Adam khel on a large scale. Rest all is paint job.
We need space agency with scientists rather than begarat.
Suparco had no contribution in the project.
Sir go again and check whether china fails or not and specially on mars
Humble requests: Focus on your core issues, basic education. If that's not possible for you folks then see how you separate and then focus on core development.
India shouldn't be matter for your discussion. Please don't stick us.
Pakistan ke Textile company gloves bnaygi astronauts ke😂😂 .
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Koi logical baat hi nhi first time see on this channel.
This is the intial Baby steps towards bigger Goals.If all the Desing & Development was done by Pakistani students & integration also then i must say it is commendable.I was part of team in college of Engineering Pune which Developed similar satellite called Swayam in 2016 & believe me it is nothing but great achievement.
If you have high range ballistic missile or ICBM then space rocket its just a version of your missiles.
But pak has high range ballistic missile but no space rocket that show that they didn't have the capabilities to manufacturer or design Ballistic missile.
BTW pak Gauri is derivative of north korea missile check wikipedia for this.
Excellent discussion
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Salman Hameed talks sense. Pakistan need not worry about other nations space programs. Its government is the problem.
People of Pakistan see their future in the progress of Islam and Jihad , unlike other nations which are interested in science and technology !!!
Love especially for consistency and boldness of shezad ghiaz ❤
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Great to see you professor saahb, Aap dono hee mujhe boht pasand ho, boht kuch shikha aap dono se 🙏
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The podcast arrangement (or the room) can use some space. It feels like the walls are collapsing in, too claustrophobic, even for the viewer.
Something lost in this discussion is the industrial and skill base that is required to even set up an eco-system of support industries for a sector like space.
A company which makes bicycles cannot suddenly gain the precision tooling expertise, skilled manpower and professionalism to start making high end engineered goods.
Also, China is not the US. If it wants to make high precision parts for a massive engineering program, no country in the world comes close to getting it done with speed, efficiency, and low cost as China itself. Why would China look at a third country, with sketchy infrastructure, security and technical manpower issues, when it can do a much better job at scale and on the cheap, itself? Europe and the US have a need to outsource. China doesn't. Wrong horse to bet on.
Pakistan ne china ko help kiya chand pe jane ke liye.. Congratulations 👍🏼.. Ab Pakistan chand me pohonch gaya hai.. Ab IMF, China, USA, Saudi, UAE sabko loan dega...aur photo bhejega Earth ke to problems hoge ke earth flat nahi hoga to according to kuran... 🤷🏼♂️.. Kon sachcha aur kaun jhoota hoga?
Ye kya khyali polaw bna rha hai😅😅😅
Agnikul skyroot ka naam suna hai
They are making reusable rocket and they will launch this year
Hameed has good ideas but it is Pakistan where your greatest engineer was talking about harnessing jinn for electricity.
Pakistanis/ Bangladeshis say ‘Quran’ is all about science. Hence all madarsa graduates are scientists!!!😒😔
Actually CHINA never failed a single lunar mission from Chang'e 1 to 6 and is the only country in the whole world (NOT EVEN USA ) that landed a mission on the far side of the Moon. China also ACTUALLY never failed a Mars mission because it was Russia's rocket that had on it China 2011 Mars mission that failed because thrusters of the spacecraft could not fire on right time so technically China didn't fail because the Rocket of Russia failed and this motivated China to develop and pursue independent Mars missions . To prove my point , when China used their own Long March-5 Heavy rocket then they successfully launched and landed Mars mission and Chang'e 5 and ongoing Chang'e 6 missions .India is also going very good in space and the day is not far when SpaceX will join ISRO and make ISRO a truly invincible organization in Space but for sample return missions India needs heavy rocket which it does not have right now.
Collaboration is between two wise people..
Sooper Interesting. Watched this video in multiple attempts. But i completed it.
Thanks 4 posting such informative content.
#Astronomy
#Pakistan
#ghias
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Br0 its commendable act by Pakistan ,, india also send aryabhatta satelite with the herlp of Russia's in 1975, but after than we bulit slowly our own indigenous technology - cryogenic engine , ,( only 6 country has). Own rocket ( 12 country have own rocket) , own space port , own navigation ( only 5 country has own navigation indigenous technology) , own series of space port , different types of rocket engine, reusable rocket, privatization of space industry, and then will send 2008 ...rocket to moon - chandrayan 1, mars oribit mission - 2013, 104 satellite in single rocket-2016, chandrayan - 2( orbitor successful) , chandrayan -3 ( lander and rover in south pole) , adityaa L-1( sun mission) ,, and our ambition is way big - this year we will lunch - gaganyan( crew mission to space) , chandrayan -4, Jaxa + isro - moon mission , mars rover mission, venus mission, own space station, ( for 3 person to stay for 15 days), chandrayaan -5 ( sending man to moon) ,, so if Pakistan starts the way india starts in 1975 the will be a good space power in 2050...if they won't ... already 50 years behind ..then 100 saal piche ho jaoge
India sent aryabhatta satellite in 1975 with the help of USSE
That's exactly what Pakistan is today
That's it folks
Asea aadmi stalite ki a.b.c.d bhi nahi zantea hi aap nea bulalea yea karha hi Pakistan espas estumant banayaga Pakistan caddi banean to bananhi pata 😅😅😅😅
😂😂😂, its india, not china that reached mars without failure ...funny guest.
We should learn how china treats the people of the book/special community😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Isse jyada toh India ka common citizen knowledgable hai
Pakistan needs to realise China has many allies in south east Asia . Pakistan is a cheap way to keep india engaged even that is getting outdated they will need more to needle india
Countries usually develop civilian launch capabikities and then get 8nto military Ballistic missiles. Somebody please explain..how a country can claim to develop IRBM ..Gauri Gazni etc etc but can't launch a university students, tiny toy nano satellite into a Low Earth Orbit ? 😂
First step Pakistan.. respect.. aap ne accha kam kiya please karte rahiye.. best wishes from India..
I want Pakistan to be prosperous and good neighbor friend. Hatemongers are here but we have to neglect them. Love from India.
One thing what i learned from India as a Pakistani, if you tried and failed twice you can win by showing world a sh ity animated video only. 😂😂
Can you please get Shabbar Zaidi on this podcast. Please watch his excellent podcast on RAFTAR with Faisal !!!
A journey of 1000 miles start with a first step. Be proud of the small satellite built and launched through Chinese mission. But the big part is, there should be a space mission and vision. First and foremost, have a technocrat as SUPARCO chief. Whichever institution you take, it is headed by an ex defense guy. Does that present chief even know the motive of SUPARCO? Relying on Chinese is foolish. They will never help. They will always see a return of investment. If they were true friends, by this time all your debts should have been cleared. I wish you all the best.
When Pakistan can make atom bomb then Pakistan can also do well in space programme. If Pakistan doesnot do then it's meaning is that Pakistan doesnot want to do space programme. Pakistan thinks it westage of money.
He is not updated About Chinese mission failure
how are they so capable to criticize their govt so openly that too in Pak
Wrong statement.
China also failed so many time in mars mission and moon mission also.
But failure is not bad china also achieve all of this like india
I feel for you guys. Trying to think positive about a hopeless Nation. At @12:34 was the best.. Hoping for Chinese to Trust pakistan for manufacturing their space accessories 😂 Bhai.. They literally won't even trust you on screws. I am not trying to troll or be unnecessarily critical.. just stating facts.. PIA ke screws banwalo pehle..
I would like to congratulate Pakistan for the satellite. Especially when students were involved. This is commendable. ❤ from India.
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@@ThePakistanExperience Educated Pakistani people are like this. Now I am worried about the uneducated Pakistanis.
He gave replies based on assumption and Unverified News Feed. love from India
Where do you get these so called experts who do not even know the basics that they spew ?
Dude it was not China it was us who reached Mars on the first attempt and China failed several times and so is us. Bhai kaha se late ho jinke pass aadhi adhuri jankari hai. No wonder pakistani education is in such misery.
No need for Pakistanees to think about space station , Rockets , travel to space. Only just focus on allah , quran , hadiths, and the after life hooris
India ka marse mission 2015 me hi sussec full ho gya tha❤
Where is the proof that the satellite is sending the data and Pakistan is receiving the data? Han…behen bhai se hi kaam chalao…its good to c that Pakistani public is so relaxed thinking whatever capability China has and it is bound to provide all that capability….whereas China is denying CPEC2…anyway…what can we say…Pakistan can not even make a major size computer otherwise it would have been a very large electronics and software industry…so where is the capability of making miniaturise electronic circuit? What nonsense…
State of pakistan should really focus on science and technology rather than just doing it for sake of show case
China's Mars mission was started with failure...
Kisko bulate ho bhai, keh diya karo todha padh kar aaya kare.😬😬
Shehzad you a true Krishna bakht vibe..visit vrindavan sometime..Hare Krishna..
Bhai needle toh banti nhi Pakistan se aur china ko bana ke degha ( kya banake degha bhai woh bhi china ko) haad hai yaar
Check any Pakistani podcast they will always talk on topic with India and do comparison unnecessarily just to take #indian views and Indian people waste their time and pk never accept their short coming in podcast
Space Economy se pehle 5 saal ki stable Government banane ki zaroorat hai Pakistan ko🙏
First change the background from GREEN 💚 to some other colours.. You guys will grow. Hope you guys understand 😂😂😂
Nice ambition..
Par jab Tak
•Pakistan me army hai..
•Jab Tak Islamic mindset hai..
•Jab Tak madarsa hai..
§ Tab Tak pakistan ka kuch nahi ho payega...this is big truth..
Pakistan ne jo bheja hai o sab India me IIT ke students bana dete hai😅
9kg ka bheje ho aur Halla pure duniyaa me
Wrong information.. china did failed on its initial mars mission.
All big talks but no gas😊
Aaaallllaaah Laillalla lalala la ney Chanda ka tukda krya aur insan ko waha janaa haram farma..
Sirf kufr sochya...hum nahi jaaya.
Darti gol nahi flat haaaaa qqqurn mey farmaa
Can't even make namaaz ki topi, how are we going to make space nuts and bolts.