My Journey To The ‘Center’ of Pakistan | Dil ki Baat 013
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Hello Everyone! Tonight in part 2 of my journey, Join me as I recount tales of navigating through controversies, reflect on ideological shifts, discuss the importance of logic-driven conversations and so much more.
00:00 Part 2 Begins
00:32 Recap of Part 1
01:18 Exploring Majoritarian Views
03:35 My Journey into FAST: How it went?
05:15 Life in Karachi
06:18 A New Journey
08:20 Evolving Perspectives
11:30 The Internet Transition of 2013: Realities
12:39 Post-2013 Digital Revolution
13:15 Impact of Online Expression
14:53 Humanizing Perspectives
15:50 Unpacking Subconscious Biases
17:55 Internet's Impact on Pakistan: Diversity Access
20:27 The Importance of Understanding the “Why”
21:08 World Bank Experience: Ideological Growth
23:14 Leaving a Stable Job
25:08 Reassessing Western Ideologies
26:00 UNDP Panelist Experience: The Secularism Debate
34:41 How I got attacked by an activist?
36:28 Why I got into so many controversies?
37:42 The One Surrounding Aurat March
39:20 Advocating Holistic Thinking
41:15 The Response: I got cancelled!
44:16 Shifting Discourse Framework
45:50 Coming back to the Centre
47:03 Misconceptions about Left-Wing Ideologies
48:20 Other Instances
48:42 Creating a Space for Discourse
50:09 The Shehzad Ghias Podcast: What actually happened?
54:56 Others joined the bandwagon
56:06 Personal Reflections and Actions Taken
57:40 I don’t blame Them
58:11 Concluding Thoughts
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Hi muzammil. I am your age fellow. At the time you were in FAST i was doing my engineering from uet. I remember following your internet content from HOL on my slow internet at home. These 2 videos of yours have given words to my journey as well. I am not as articulate as you but I have travelled alot after my graduation. This has changed my thinking and provided me alot of things to think about. I wish i can meet you and talk alot about my journey. We are from the Golden Generation (1990). We really have suffered alot with vague point of views. We got caught between the Zia ul Haq inspired generation and the new ones born in the age of internet. I feel we had to wade through on our own to find the truth and many of our fellow brethren have not made that journey. Add to that the family responsibilities and deteriorating economy of beloved Pakistan. Thank you for your content.
I agree with you,.... Being age fellow, we have been consistently on a transition track, which is not bad... Its a cycle of start liking, loving... Realization... Questioning and then hating that one idea... And then next and next
یہ پوری جنریشن کی داستان ہے۔
How do you manage to explain things well structured and clear?
The sole point here is that we should be humble enough to accept our limited understanding of things and ready to evolve our thinking
We as a generation first must accept that we aren't humble enough and lack tolerance. We like to have an opinion about everything ( that's fine) and like to blame our elders/previous generations for every problem ( which isn't fine imho) but we as a generation aren't realising the problem we are creating in our society by being extremely arrogant and lacking humble Ness and sadly passing that into our younger siblings as well as kids. This is not a good sign for the future. I just hope millennials and gen z in our country together realize that problem and will correct it before it's too late
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@@goals27 I would say that sense of ego in this and past generations come from our education system where we are made to believe false narratives of superiority and top of it parents generating sense of tribal superiority and then regional superiority and social color based superiority. I also hope we start to realize that problem but in the era of social media where everybody is looking for attention for some views and that views trigger that sense of superiority in them.
It reminds some great words from Dr. Israr Ahmed. A PHD can be emotional and a completely illiterate can be an intelligent person.
@@CuriosityJuice I don't think so education system is creating that mindset, and even that we are made to believe in any certain superiority.it's more of a media and social media making us that way now, previous generation wasn't that arrogant, this generation of ours doesn't have ounce of humility even though education system has been the same.
As I said this generation need to realize that and change that culture with unity, but we aren't even realising that so it's far fetched idea right now
Amazing podcast . Such clarity of thought and open mind. I am a Pakistani female physician living in US for last 30 years . The changes I felt after moving and getting exposed to diversity. This generation is lucky to have access to info and diversity
Yeah but if exposed to those without strong connection with roots and inferiorty complex then such access to info and Diversity will become a menace
Sir simple that our society is made like this in seven decades you must debate on our society
Hats off to you for staying grounded and bearing with the backlash. It shows your character. May Allah always protect you.
Muzammil bhai! There is no match between u and that fool u talked. You are a national hero who showed whats the best in this country for last 3 years when everyone showed there is no hope.
I am currently learning MERN stack, dream to be among best coders out of this country someday , and owe much of this energy to you. You mean a lot to this country.
Love to see u doing even greater impactful things. You are our champion ❤
I don't usually comment on stuff. But I wanted to say this is high class content, with proper reasoning and proper analysis of everything.
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Agreed
Muzammil, just like many other ordinary middle-class Pakistanis, shares a common feeling of confusion. It seems that the voices of the left and right dominate the discourse because those of us in the center, (who I believe make up the majority), are also uncertain and tend to remain silent. It's crucial for the positive aspects of our society to be heard.-- Moreover, your ability to captivate an audience for an entire hour with nothing but your words demonstrates an incredible depth of substance. Unlike flashy vloggers with music, drone shots, and highlighters, your simple yet profound thoughts command attention solely through their authenticity.
20:27 The Importance of Understanding the “Why”. This part was personally my "Dil ki Baat" 🔥
The crux of this vlog is to tolerate the others opinion and present your point of view in a cultural way with respect. Thanks Muzamil for your valuable roller coaster of your life! May Allah bless you
I started listening to your thoughts after your podcast with Hafiz Naeem. Since then, I have watched several videos and I appreciate any person who talk with reasoning and rationale in addition to their pure intent of evolving after the discussion. Keep up the good work Muzammil bhai ❤
Stand with truth no matter it's against Conservative or Liberal.
For absolute truth you would have to research past/ history and history is biased coz it is written or modified by the superpower of this time….this is the only “ fundamental truth “ associated with modern history…so what to do now,we are in the paradox….now come the important part to mitigate this paradox of biased history,and this mitigation is through imaan( faith)… can we make a trade off between two???? Million dollar question which is more tilted towards liberal than the conservatives religious group,coz of the unbalanced segmentation of modern world
do you know "truth"?
@@siddique.abubakr that “know it all” attitude,which is presented as woke in this modern world is just blind following of liberalized world which is in state of irreversible decay
That's the psychology of Islam ,Stand with truth even if it goes against you
@@k.komega and if the truth goes against Islam then?
In a country like Pakistan, Opening out thoughts & philosophies of life to the public is truly a bravery act. You are one of the few individual that is shaping a new ray of thoughts for the new generation.
""When You blindly follow an ideology than all logic goes down the drain"" ( syed Muzamil Hasan ) .
Isn't that like the very definiton of religious faith?
How can be someone so humble with their critics?
Muzzamil, you are such a gentleman. Rational, logical and humble. I never find you arrogant
Couldn’t skip a single sec of both these parts and waiting for the 3rd one! Just like my last comment, Muzammil you are a gem ✨🫶 Always rooting for you and may you keep inspiring us all!
Muzamil and hamna speaks so much wisdom, im 21 years old medical student and have been listening to you to for the last 2-3 years, you both have shaped my viewpoints on alot of aspects of life so thankyou sm ❤️
I've been following you for a long time, and I openly say this to everyone that a lot of what I do, my ideas and my plans, are something I learned from your podcasts. These last two videos where you explained your whole background are really important for someone who is following you for a long time and watch a lot of your content. They help us better understand your opinions, why you hold the beliefs you do and why you say what you say.
You really made us go through this whole journey from center to far left and back to center.
Man I really appreciate everything you are doing. Unlike a lot of clickbait influencers, you are not doing this for the views or money only. Because a lot of the videos you have done recently cannot get a lot of views. They are not fun topics or something that people in Pakistan feel very interested in. But they are filled with absolute gem of a content. You are building a legacy.
I don't think I've ever commented on any of your videos, though I've watched a lot of them and always "Liked" them. But I really wanted to appreciate you and thank you for all of your efforts. You are a huge inspiration. You might not remember me but we met in Dubai on Gitex and I was blown away by your absolute humbleness. Feel honored to have met you. Keep going.
I think your journey is the journey of every middle class in Pakistan.
It seems to me like you have opened up a pandora's box so be ready for the back lash 😞 but do know that there are many ppl like us who r proud of you n praying for you. Ppl like you give us hope that we still have young man who think positively .
I always wanted to tell you n this is my first time commenting in ur channel...You did a great favor to a lot of us ... u gave us hope by showing that we have Ma she Allah such great talented ppl still living in Pakistan. May Allah SWT protect you from all evil.
There were at least 10 times that I genuinely wanted to like the video and realized I have already liked it. Gold content.
I really wish to have so much exposure like you have and then be able to comprehend it too like you did.
I'm 17 years removed from you in age (that makes me 17, of course : ). But I can relate to exactly what you're saying. My generation hasn't done much better in setting a good, centrist, middle of road example for discourse. For that matter, we in the US have the same issue (within our own context). Keep up the good work. Much, much needed.
The quality of your podcasts is unmatchable.
@@stocks7140 excuse me? Kahan ki frustration hai bhai? Read my comment again.
@@stocks7140 weed?
@@stocks7140 bhai wo podcast ki tareef kar rahi.
Chill karein
@@stocks7140 charas p?
@@fansari1000 kia ap mj sy dosti kro ge
Great to hear from you Muzammil. I remember your Lolz studio page on Facebook. Me and my buddies used to follow your page in 2010-11. Your content was different back then too. You had posted a picture of your travel inside US where you were the only passenger on a flight and we used to judge kia burger londa ha yr.
Its so good to hear your full story, more power to you and May Almighty Allah bless you.
Really love you Muzzmil bhai ❤️
Life learning video for all middle class Pakistanis ...! I'm a woman from a village of Gilgit Baltistan, love your logics ..you never look arrogant.!
I feel like most of the liberal start like you. We try to logically debate with the right. But Talking from my experience we get fed up and also become (leftist) extremists and start outraging.
Kudos to you for still trying to have logical debates. It also motivates me to revisit my (maybe) logical self that I was an year ago.
Muzamil, thank you a lot for sharing your story! Watching you since HoL and always find your work inspirational and positive.
I am also from a middle-class family, my father was a rickshaw driver back then, and he saved every penny to send me for higher education, now I have a career and a good social life I was not from an upper class and still not. I know so many people from middle-class families who manage their finances so well to maintain their lives. When I saw your middle-class viral clip I could easily relate to it.
Yar muzammil bhai...shuru se hi dekh rhy hain apko....ap bilkul sahi kertay rahay ho...or ker rahay ho. Shehzaad wali podcast k baad so feesad pata tha k kya takleef hai usko... Tension na lain...buhat himmat hai jo aise logo ko berdasht kertay ho...or us se b bari himmat hai sab k samnay ye batain kerna ❤ more power to you
It's good that you have got the capacity to reflect on your experiences, understand your biases and update your opinion rather than be an egoistic person.
May Allah keeps taking some good work from you in life.
An amazing podcast. I'm usually quiet viewer, but I had to say it. Also, a request, if you don't mind: have you considered adding English subtitles? I have friends who don't speak urdu who I'd love to show your podcasts to
Salam
One of the best, rational and genuine issues highlighting Podcasts ever.
I have rarely commented on any video on youtube but I would give you a round of applause for this.
Keep doing these types of videos ❤
I really want to appreciate you for opening up and sharing your journey so rationally, being so raw. It's really learning process for many of us.
Hooked with this series !
It's really not easy to get so open about something you experienced knowing ppl might have conflicting feedback, but again its a learning journey..and we are learning too. Thank you for making it a shared process. JazakAllah ❤️
When someone criticises another person, it mostly comes from a place of inadequacy. There is a huge possibility that when u speak from a place authenticity, embodying what you believe, then it may trigger ppl who struggle to do the same, or aspire to be as brave. You should take such feedback with a pinch of salt, these ppl may be in awe 😄
These are the exact well-balanced perspectives and critical thinking converstaions we need in Pakistan today. Thank you so much Muzammil for bringing us your life story. Your level of rationality and empathy for both sides is commendable MashaAllah. Stay blessed brother!
Thank you for this series and sharing your journey. Especially, shedding light on extremism of thoughts regardless of the school of thought it belongs to.
You might not be the biggest or most successful CZcamsr. But, certainly one of the best if not the best content producer for the youth in Pakistan. Keep going 👏
The day i started watching your content i knew i have struck gold. I can't be grateful enough for how much you've shaped my perspective about different fringes in Pakistan. I've learnt to humanize people's perspective because of you. Your intellect and approach is way beyond the likes of shahzad and Syed Muzammil. I can understand what trauma you must have gone through after what Shahzad did just for his puny viewership. Trust me bhai they envy your intellect and wisdom so they find means to pull you down to level with you. These pseudo intellectuals can only do sasti comedy to gain traction. So worry not, true believers in rationale can tell the diff between clowns and Heros...And you're our HERO Muzammil Bhai♥️
Love your Thoughts💗
53:30 you're right, shehzad ghias has got beef with many people. he literally enforces his believes on everyone who comes to his podcast. But you're doing a great job. keep it up
love you bro, looking forward to the next episode.
Thanks for sharing " Dil ki baat" 👍
Keep shinning muzamil 🙌.
Great episode as always
You are an inspiration!! More power to you. 🙌🏼
Wisdom sharing at it’s peak ❤
Thank you for sharing your experiences
Much appreciated ❤
Have been following you since 2018 and you never fail to amaze. What an awesome piece of raw thought process. You are amazing
Muzamil you are a gem! A lot of people can relate to this including myself and it is absolutely critical that we carve out a space where the fringes (both left and right) can debate with intellectual honesty and mutual respect. Let the best ideas win!
Hi Muzzamil, I found your video very informative, and I learned a lot from the challenges you've faced and overcome. It's incredible to see your resilience. I also appreciate the importance you place on addressing humanity. However, I want to share a personal struggle: I often find it difficult to communicate comfortably with people of higher status,upper-class. I feel a sense of pressure that i am trying to impress them in order to gain favor, whether it's my unit head, teacher, or anyone else in authority.
As a result, I find it difficult to befriend individuals of upper class or higher status, even if they express interest in forming a bond with me. Despite my efforts, overcoming this issue remains a challenge.
Thank you so much for this❤ I have always admired you and I am happy that I got to know you ✨
loved to hear you telling your story!
Probably my first ever youtube comment Muzammil...hats off to you, I always loved philosophy and logical thinking and recently started looking at the why of the other person also with empathy. You opened my mind more and cleared my concept about the right and the left wings.
Really interesting insight into your thought process Muzammil Bhai, Thanks alot for doing what you've done for our people till now!
Really appreciate it and looking forward to more such videos!
Muzammil Bhai You are the Only Source of Inspiration for Me. Stay Happy and stay Blessed .
Thanks for giving my thoughts and ideas the words. Your content has always been matchless❤
Tommorow is my paper, but watched this nonstop😅. you're gem man❤
Pass hojana bas 😂.
Good luck for tomorrow
@@goals27 Paper acha hogya, thanks bro😅
@@sarfrazz3055 that's Great 😃
muzammil you articulated your thoughts very nicely in the video. loved your interpretations of rising polarization and your viewpoint on how we can stay in the center by using our intellect.
thank you so much for this video!!
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Muzammil bhai mujhe ap se masla yeh hai ke when you thought I made fun of you on Kazi’s podcast I messaged you the same day and apologized but you didn’t even bother to reply but you posted in your closed fb group that Irfan is arrogant.
A few months later, still no reply on that apology, a team member of yours reached out to me for an appearance on your podcast.
Toh mere bhai itne professionalism se pehle thori basic courtesy pe bhi focus karien. Baki Arkg
womp womp
Irfan bhai,
Thank you for your message but I believe aap ki memory thori kamzor hai. Aapne publicly mera mazak uraya jiss per maine closed group pay logon ko kaha ke main aapko invite kar chuka houn multiple times laikin aap ka attitude uss clip main wazeh hai.
Aapko kissi ne woh clip bheja tu aap ne mujhe aik voice note bheja jiss main aapne apologize karne ke bajaye koi random explanation bhej di jiss per i was annoyed and I didn’t respond. A month after that we met, interacted, joked and spoke to each other for 4+ HOURS at the Social Media Awards in Karachi.
MANY months later my team reached out to you because I thought after our interaction which was very civil and friendly, we had let bygones be bygones.
Even if you did have any confusions or misunderstandings, you could’ve reached out to me but, you, being true to your brand, again went out and publicly lashed at me on stories.
Professionalism aur courtesy ke baaray main aap bhi thori self reflection kar lain. Hum tu bohat kar chuke.
Abey yar na karo, you two are legends itni si baat hai, aik bar aur mil lo :D
When your fav top 2 content creators are setting camps and you are confused as fuck, which fringe do you belong to. 🥹
Very Thoughtful ✨
Love the detailed deconstruction of different perspectives in our society with a professional and logical manner. So many points to question one's own thoughts.
Keep it up bro, very refreshing
Wowww Maza aagaya Muzzammil bhai Keep doing "Dil ki baat" We love it❤️❤️❤️
I opened video only to watch a min to boost your views , ended up watching whole video 👏🏻🙌 I have no words just hats off to you
more power to you!
Amazing articulation. One of the best I have heard.
A true dill ki baat.
Muzzamil I can relate to you a lot. Having gone through private schools and elite university in Pak and then finding that I knew nothing about my religion which started a new phase in my life of going back to the basics and rediscovering myself.
I hope the light that I see in you will benefit our country for many years to come.
This video changed my thoughts in many aspects.....Thank you for this video habibi
Each episode of dil ki baat matures me. Literally.
Amazing job Muzamil - keep it up ❤️
I came from a village and am studying at the University of Agriculture, Faisalabad. I've been listening to your first podcast, and I've learned a lot from you. Because of you, I have evolved significantly. My mind has opened up, and I've explored the Weston World podcasts. I am a much better person now, having evolved a lot. My worldview now is to watch and listen to everything with rationality. Thank you so much for what you're doing. Lots of love from my side ❤😊
This whole thing really change my persoective of thinking.A very eloborative and general motivational toward rational thinking.
Keep it coming you doing a great job ❤
Truly enjoyed both episodes . I am a huge fan of yours - pls keep doing what you do.
Love your style and ability to express yourself so eloquently.
You nailed it ! even single second is worth watching ❣
Excellent talk.. waiting for the next episode
Lovely discussion!
Muzammil bhai kamaal. Matlab... chass kara di he. May Allah (SWT) help you in your journey in making a positive change in the way our society thinks. We must understand each other instead of just proving ourselves right. Once again... Great work and I hope that none of this content is taken out of context.
Love you Muzammil! Boht pyari baat, maza agya. Keep standing your ground
Hello muzamil,
I have been listening to your podcasts on and off for a while now. I am also from bahawalpur (did my schooling from SPS bahawalpur) and I'll graduate this year from a very prestigious institute in ISB.
I have watched your previous video and this too and loved how you shared your thoughts and journey.
The part where you told I became a westernized and west oriented boy (khooni liberal), so do I feel as of this moment because of my schooling and because of the institute I am educating right now and after hearing your thoughts. It really changed my spectrum of seeing and observing things. It broadened my vision. The good thing is I have developed a sense of humanization and adaptability as my horizon has changed from moving from a small, underprivileged city to the capital. And by yourself as a depiction of ideal or sort of; I am pleased to know that I am on right path to get to know people and adapt myself accordingly and humanizing at the same time.
I thank you for making this video and I know that my regards won't be enough for you or your channel but seriously, alike me, boys who came with same background as me and educating in the best institute in ISB; ALL admire you and follow you and I think your talk and your efforts are paying off if for the betterment of the upcoming generation it may be ❤.
I see you as a mentor ❤. Lots of love and please keep up with the channel. It is inspiring not only middle class, but also upper, lower middle and also elite class as well as you provide a wide spectrum of vision to look upon the things as they are in a very descriptive and comprehensive way.
Again, thanks muzamil.
PS, bahawalpur ka chakar lage to lazmi batana
One more thing, this is my first comment on any channel on youtube and your video make me do it
love you for this muzamil bhai
Very Thoughtful .
Brother i cant express my emotions to you. Seriously, i loved your act of putting your jouney here, i have learned soo much. Would love to know what things are not good on right side.
What a mind changing series Muzzamil... Appreciated much appreciated
WELL SAID! 🙌🏼
What a beautiful video so far !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1:01:34 brother we are listening to more power to you and to be honest I have evolved so much by consuming your content so for that Thank you ❤
Have watched the whole video without skipping, and It is great to hear your experiences.
Amazing podcast loved watching it.Really liked the way you explain each and every point with logic.More power to you muzamil bhai
Very nice. A very fresh and amazing outlook towards things. Perception plays a huge role and how one sees something and even people. And I like your approach to tackle things logically. And this is the learned way to disagree within one’s own space and not crossing the line. And have watched so many of your podcasts and love the content being shared it’s refreshing and full of hope. Thanku for being you as a wonderful person.
Very educational MashALLAH amazing.
I generally never comment on anyones content but honestly this was something which allows me as a teenager to go through a life journey of someone who changed the way how he thought and this is really the need of the society at this moment. Remarkable skills Muzammil Bhai. You are indeed an asset to my youtube wall
Thank u for sharing You with us. This is precious
Loved your thought process. When I started using Instagram in 2016 I didn't find your content relatable enough. I was like they are just some rich influencers from Islamabad. But from the past one year I have watched your podcasts . I really loved your podcast with IIU professor who talked about euro centric thought system . From that point I realized that you were open to learning from the conservatives. Keep inspiring ❤️
Loved hearing this. Following you since lolz studio days. Stuck with you because of your good intentions and honesty. Regards,
Appreciate and agree with all your thoughts.
This is the real honest stuff. Can understand what he is saying since I was born in 1990 myself. Glad to hear Muzamil’s philosophy around how average rational person is going to arrive close to centre eventually, it’s spot on.
I’m glad u did this podcast
I can so relate with the part 1.
I almost never add a comment to any video other than a good technical video. Lekin bruh, this was a great watch. The most difficult thing is k aap itni extreme sides par bethe huwe logo par content daal rahe ho. Respect++
Amazing bhai, very informative listened till last second
Dil ki baat sessions are amazing. Always good to listen to you.
After watching both videos...I would like you to have a podcast with Faisal waraich.I am totally getting your point.The whole Transformation is relatable to me.like wise people usually don't understand me too most people try to score beyond logic.Study,Study and analyze in paradigm of society and problem statement that's what logic says.
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this is amazing.
Very well Explained Abt Ideologies!