Blasphemy Law in Pakistan - Arafat Mazhar, Mohammad Hasan Ilyas and Engineer Ali Mirza
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- Multiple perspectives on the Blasphemy Law in Pakistan from Sahil Adeem, Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza, Mohammad Hasan Ilyas and Arafat Mazhar.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:56 Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza
12:12 Mohammad Hasan Ilyas
24:43 Arafat Mazhar - Zábava
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Bada Napa Tula Jawab hai Kya Ya Islamophobia hai
Ex Muslim Sahil or adam seeker he will tell you truth not the sugarcoat version.
It is high time that the source of this problem- scholars like Sahil Adheem gets punished who feeds and encourages this behavior by state. I am all for free speech and difference of opinions but when it has become violent and full of hate to a point where people life, liberty, and property is at stake, it is treason and creating chaos in the society. Punishable by Islamic law
buddy reality is that Muslim cannot remove their own biases..
Reality you can see the world oppresing you but can't see when you do it..
And this isn't just your Muslim.. it's engraved in the attitude of Islam..
Problem is Muslim have internalised it so much that islamic teaching give one law for Muslim but in vice versa it is haram.
Here's the pact of umar wherein the non Muslim community had to agree to living in Muslim countries... This is the bases of dimini status..
Who inturn is the criterion or laws and the place of non Muslim in Muslim countries..
Now please tell me in a vise versa condition will a Muslim will agree to these conditions.. I will ask will any Muslim even agree one of these conditions.. they cry oppression. If anyone even come close to implement these conditions..
Infact historically Muslim have done opposite of these stance with non Muslim community when they were in minorities.. ie build mosques, used it for raising enemity for non Muslim community, used it for protection of spy against the non Muslim majority.. use of loudspeaker for azan..
Pact of Umar
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. This is a document to the servant of Allah `Umar, the Leader of the faithful, from the Christians of such and such city. When you (Muslims) came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that:
-We will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk,
-Nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration
-Nor use any of them for the purpose of enmity against Muslims.
-We will not prevent any Muslim from resting in our churches whether they come by day or night, and we will open the doors [of our houses of worship] for the wayfarer and passerby.
-Those Muslims who come as guests, will enjoy boarding and food for three days.
-We will not allow a spy against Muslims into our churches and homes or hide deceit [or betrayal] against Muslims.
-We will not teach our children the Qur'an,
Publicize practices of Shirk (polytheism),
Invite anyone to Shirk or prevent any of our fellows from embracing Islam, if they choose to do so.
-We will respect Muslims,
-Move from the places we sit in if they choose to sit in them.
-We will not imitate their clothing, caps, turbans, sandals, hairstyles, speech, nicknames and title names,
or ride on saddles,
-Hang swords on the shoulders, collect weapons of any kind or carry these weapons.
We will not encrypt our stamps in Arabic,
or sell liquor.
-We will have the front of our hair cut,
Wear our customary clothes wherever we are,
Wear belts around our waist,
-Refrain from erecting crosses on the outside of our churches and demonstrating them and our books in public in Muslim fairways and markets.
-We will not sound the bells in our churches, except discretely, or raise our voices while reciting our holy books inside our churches in the presence of Muslims,
-Nor raise our voices [with prayer] at our funerals, or light torches in funeral processions in the fairways of Muslims, or their markets.
We will not bury our dead next to Muslim dead,
or buy servants who were captured by Muslims.
-We will be guides for Muslims and refrain from breaching their privacy in their homes.'
-We will not beat any Muslim.
-These are the conditions that we set against ourselves and followers of our religion in return for safety and protection. If we break any of these promises that we set for your benefit against ourselves, then our Dhimmah (promise of protection) is broken and you are allowed to do with us what you are allowed of people of defiance and rebellion.'[4]
The Pact of Umar
Should i quote u contradictory Quran verses from mecca verses and madni verses. Dnt lie
Excellent & Logical Analysis by Arafat Mazhar Bhai. Ma-Shaa-ALLAH عزوجل ! ! ! May ALLAH عزوجل Protect Our Nation & Our Country PAKISTAN from all Internal & External Enemies. Aameen ! ! ! May ALLAH عزوجل guide all of us towards his path of TRUTH. Aameen ! ! !
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Exmuslim Sahil khan zindabd
Sahil Adeem not knowing about TLP is the biggest red flag in itself.
And he dares to ask him about blasphemy law 😂😂
For every person who follows and likes Aahil Adeem - if the guy doesn't know or accept to know about something as lame as TLP, how can you except to know him about anything about the deep discussion about Islam
I strongly believe sahil is backed by establishment to handle youth
@@Walkingaroundtheword2686 Qaum e Youth ko sambhalne ke liye, Jahil adeem ko choda hai.
Biggest munafiqs in Pakistan
1) Sahil Adeem
2) Qaiser Ahmed Raja
3) Youth club, these guys still believe that Earth is flat
Arfaat Manzar's love for the Prophet (S.A.W) is so evident in his voice when he began speaking about the comments. Brought tears to my eyes.
Sahil Adeem knows about portals where aliens fight with each other but doesn't know about TLP. Mast banda hai 😂😂
Dam bro that was hard 🤣
maza agaya 😂
Bhai yeh bnda apne aap maim clear nahi hai
@@harmeet412💯 Agreed
Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza destroying these Extremists Single Handedly with the help of True Teachings of Islam 😍😍😍💪 which is extremely Great Job.
Joker hai ye😂
Before Engineer Ali Mirza, I also had distorted views about this concep. That man is doing solo Jihaad. ✌️
Arey Ye Naye Naye Kabootar Hain. Udna Sikh Rhe Hain.👍 Jawani Ka Josh Hai Sirf.👍
Ye Debate Kr Lega Blasphemy Pr?🤦♂️ Khud Pr0phet Muh@mm@d Ke Aise Bhi Wakiye Hain. Jaha Unhone Bl@sphemy Ko All0w Kiya. Not All, But Some Incidents.👍
Lekin Agar Uspr Debate Hogyi To Pakistan Me Reh Nhi Payega Ye.👍
Problem Ye Hai Ki Ek Superiority Complex Naam Ki Chiz Hoti Hai.
Pakistan Ke M0mino Ko Lgta Hai Ki Vo M0min Hain Isliye Unko Ixlam Ka Jyada Pata Hai. Ye Indians Ko Kuch Nhi Pata.
Ye Log 2-4 Excuses Wale Sentences Use Krte Hain Kisi Incident K Liye :-
1) Anything That Goes Against Kur@n Is N0t Acceptable.
2) Hadith Depreciated Hai, Ya Sahih Nhi Hai.
3) "Context" Ko Samjhna Jaruri Hai.
4) Ye Sirf Us Wakt K Liye Tha.
Aise Aise 5-10 Line Hain Inke Pas. Aur Koi Daleel Nhi Hai.
Ye Sun Sun Kr Pakk Gye Hain. Real Authentic Hadith Pr Bhi Ye Log Agree Nhi Krte.
Same bhai..
@@AryaArshbro give reference don't talk some random....
@@AryaArshLindon mob violence sabit nahi hota gustaqi saza liken vo islami hoqamat degi
Engineer Ali Mirza is real man with real talk and brother youbr doing great job Mashallah ❤
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@@ThePakistanExperience He's a reformist. He is used by apostates as a cover to not appear un-Islamic and save their lives.
I am 100 percent confident that you Shahzad, Muzammil and Taimur Rahman are closet apostates and are trying their best to make Pakistan more breathable. Hopefully one day one of you gets out of this shithole Pakistan and fully criticize Islam without any fear or with a touch of reformism
They'll just wash their hands off it by announcing "This has nothing to do with izlam "
Bhai, wo pakistan mein rehte hain, unka maqsad hai mob lynching khatam karna, wo jiss bhi tareeqe se ho, Islam ko achha batakar hota hai toh wo sahi, tumhare jaisa Islam ko bura sabit karne ka maqsad nahi hai, wo tumhara maqsad hai kyuki tumko yahan musalmanon ki mob lynching justify karni hai
@@FarabiOSinabhai Quran itna correct book hote hue bhi Pura world q samajh nhi pa rha hai?
Isn't it problematic?
@@FarabiOSinaye to aapne jada hi sach bol diya
@@dmaniaxd5447because very few people have read it with translation and tafseer, that's why, and the Pakistani society was filled with extremism by Zia Ul Haq (like Modi is doing the same in India) Quran definitely is the Book of Guidance
@@shariqsalman92 why not try hindu upanishad or advait vedanta i feel it more beneficiary than koran
What a superb work by Arafat mazhar , just marvelous ,hats off , God bless you.
Engineer sahb and ghamdi sahb are scholars who has solutions for modern problems. There philosophical lectures are best.
They keep finding faults in the computer, when the software itself is corrupt.
This is why I watch your podcast because you bring so diverse opinions from Soo many different fractions of the society. definitely not an echo chamber of the liberal left/modern Muslims in Pakistan
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मैं आपके सभी वीडियोस देखता हूँ आप जिस तरह से पाकिस्तान की समस्याओं के बारे में अपनी जनता को अवगत करवा रहे हैं वो बहुत अधिक प्रशंसनीय है । स्वात घटना पर आपका वीडियो बहुत ही अच्छा था जिस प्रकार आपने धार्मिक कट्टरता की आलोचना की वो बहुत कुछ सिखाती है ।
Beautifully written man. Refreshing Hindi. And I agree with you comment. This guy is a genius and humble.
He is liar. All mecca verses and madni verses r contradictory.
الیاس بھائی اللہ أپ کو ہمت اور توفیق دے ۔ أپ ہمیشہ سچی اور کھری بات کرتے ہیں۔
Shehzad Bhai, you are a brave anchor.
These zaahils are behind you. Please aap dhyaan rakhein apna....!!!
Love from Delhi.
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Brave😂😂
There are many incidents in which prophet allowed to k!ll blasphemers.....he didn't mention a single one.
@@ThePakistanExperience : you are all Kasab
@@ThePakistanExperienceHe is lying. All mecca verses and madni verses r contradictory. Verses before power r contradictory with verses after power.
This poor guy keeps defending his deen despite knowing what is written all over in their books. Take the root cause headon otherwise keep crying like a fool.
Well researched and much needed video. Making such a video on this issue while living in Pakistan requires a lot of courage. You are a brave man indeed.
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Debate between Ali Mirza vs Adam Seeker
Extreme mental gymnastics to avoid the elephant in the room.
Islam is a prominent example of institutionalised elite capture.
But we will never scrutinise that. By design
Musalmano ki tareekh rhi he ki jb kafir nhi milta he to aik dusre ko hi Qatl krte he, kyu ki man me jo nafrat bhri he vo kahi to bahar niklegi
Yes.... In saudi arabia they were fighting and killing first qurash then jews then ottomans and now shia 🤣
Je ye srf musalmano ki tareekh nahi...duniya ki hr woam ki tareekh rahi hay...
Qoam:nation
Atleast none of the muslims blew the whole city of hiroshima...!!!
Because they were not able to develop...if they had they already did ...the looters and destroyer of cities , without violance islam dies
@@skippper2345 Correct yourself..Without violence....weak people die and strong people survive...Muslims survived through all trials...and In Sha Allah...Muslims will continue to survive...Muslims will grow out of this mess..I assure you..I would suggest you to worry about your own end!!!
Very very nice work Shahzad, thankyou so much for making this video possible. Great work ! May you be rewarded for this in good
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Thank you Shahzad Bhai for raising your voice ❤
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Good conpilation video Shahzad. May Allah protect you from the extremists.
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1400 saal ho gaye...per kisi ko asmani kitab samaj nahi aa rahi thi.😅😅
The Holy Prophet sa said:
يُوْشِكُ أَنْ يَأْتِيَ عَلَى النَّاسِ زَمَانٌ لَا يَبْقَى مِنَ الْإِسْلَامِ إِلَّا اسْمُهُ وَلَا يَبْقَى مِنَ الْقُرْآنِ إِلَّا رَسْمُهُ مَسَاجِدُهُمْ عَامِرَةٌ وَهِيَ خَرَابٌ مِنَ الْهُدَى عُلَمَاؤُهُمْ شَرُّ مَنْ تَحْتَ أَدِيْمِ السَّمَاءِ مِنْ عِنْدِهِمْ تَخْرُجُ الْفِتْنَةُ وَفِيْهِمْ تَعُوْدُ
“A time will come when nothing would be left of Islam except its name, and nothing would be left of the Quran except its words. Their mosques would be full of worshippers but would be devoid of righteousness. Their ulema [the religious scholars] would be the worst of creatures under the canopy of the heavens. Evil plots will hatch from them and to them will they return” (Mishkat al-Masabih, Vol. 1, p. 91, Hadith 676)
Thank you Shehzad, for having the courage to speak about this. Not only just speaking about it but you've managed to challenge so much based on academic sources and evidence. Be safe and know that we appreciate your work.
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😂 Darpook Sahil Adeem TLP k hilaaf ek lafaz nhi bol saka , kaaanp raha tha Ulta kehta ha k "Brelvi dunya k sab sa baray peace lovers Hain" 😂😂😂
Islam die Without lie
Allah pak apko apna hifzo amaan main rakha
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Wow! thats guy just gave his Everything to research on this. Kudos man. Its is 5 a.m I came back from night shift job and could not stop muself watching the entire video. More power to you shahzad.
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Kitna v kosish kar lo .. world has seen the real islam n whats written in book..
Thats why they are ...
In europe....its clearly written what happened in swat...all religion accepted the wrongs in their book n reform...is their any possibility of reform in islam.
Then make law to prevent multiple marriage..
Its simple na...even u can't make this one... because reform n rational logocal sustainable development is against teaching of islam...its not Islamophobia...its revolution against protection from islam
The real problem is asmani kitab nothing else
You should not be afraid of someone who has a library and reads many books; you should fear someone who has only one book; and he considers it sacred, but he has never read it
wow, never thought like that.
Arafat Mazhar awesome explanation opened my eyes & mind
Shehzad bhai, this is an interesting video with a lot of details and citations into the blasphemy topic. Just a suggestion, is it possible to get a video explaining all these things in English as the wider audience is able to understand who can use it to just understand different viewpoints and this information-rich video? Regardless, gratitude for your thankless service! ✨
Hypocrisy is a norm for Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
Intellectual arguments against blasphemy is one thing but what is important is what is the ground reality. People of Pakistan condone blasphemy law and are eager to implement it themselves. THAT is the real problem. No amount of intellectual discussion on blasphemy will change the ground reality because it is naive to think that people more knowledgeable than the host of this show do not know what Islam has to say about blasphemy.
Thank you, Shehzad, for educating us❤
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Yar Ghais you are a good man..... We really like you...... Hope in Pakistan we will have more like minded people as you......
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Shehzad; Arafat Mazhar's work haunts me for days everytime after blasphemy lynching incident. If we really want to change the things It should be prescribed for all Madrassa teachers by state of Pakistan.
thanks for putting these clips together shehzad
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Loved the analysis by Aarafat Mazhar, will surely read his publication, Thanks Anwar bhai 😂
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Shehzad Bhai, your courageous journalism is truly inspiring. Your willingness to tackle controversial and dangerous topics with integrity and bravery is commendable. Thank you for being a voice for truth and justice in our society. Your work makes a significant difference, and I deeply appreciate your dedication❤❤❤
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I absolutely love love love this episode. It is such an important conversation to have in this day and age and I commend you for your effort and your bravery. Keep it up
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Respect for you guys, really brave for you two to do this discussion. Refreshing to see substantial discourse coming out of Pakistan. Stay safe and keep up the good work 🙏❤️
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Looking at your hair I thought you've been running away from fanatics. Got scared for a bit. :) Keep doing the good work brother.
Your episode with Arafat Mazhar is one of my favorites
Thanks to Allah and Muhammad for again claiming another human life in the name of Blasphemy. I know Islam is the religion of rest in peace not peace.
Shezad you are quite a courageous person Salute from India!! 🇮🇳
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You are doing amazing work. I would love to see Sahil Adeen again.
The last person exposed them thoroughly
Doing the lord's work
blaspphemy laws exist in mostly all islamic nations.
Not like they do in Pakistan. This is extremism on state level
people are beating up over practicing their religion somewhere in India . But it does not mean that all of indians are shit . history shown us ( french, germans , native americians) but its does not mean that we tell them every one should blame.
@@wajahatsheikh929compare the numbers about violence done my Muslims on others to other religions on Muslims. You will see Muslims outnumber the other religions when it comes to religious violence.
Awesome
Arafat Mazhar, Ali Bhai, Hassan Ilyas and off course Shahzad bhai you are all doing great work.
May Allah be pleas with you...
Ameeen summa Ameeen
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Everyone know their opinion about tthis law. Bring those who are favouring this law.
Great bold discussion…. Greatly facilitated discussion
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Very Brilliant and fantastic Efforts..Daring job.Allah protect you All way.If some more people start courage Pakistan will be best country to live
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Peaceful religion 💫
Without lies
Fantastic content and great journalistic integrity.
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What about Prophet Mohammad, who broke 360 Idols of deities by his own hand ?
How is that relevant to the situation with blasphemy law in Pakistan?! Kaise jaahil tareen aadmi ho tum, tauba
Did prophet kill anyone ????
just so beautiful man. it should play on all channels
I think only the ENGINEER has balls of steel in this matter and and other Islamic jurisprudence matters. You can disagree with him but you can not ignore him because he has much better rationale among all his contemporaries. He is playing a vital role in reformation and too an extent transformation of Pakistani and urdu speaking Muslims. You will see the real impact and benefits of this in next 10 to 15 years. After 40 years in a progressive, humanist and Islamic secular Pakistan students will write thesis on Engineer and his contributions.
Sab ' Dialectical Historicism' ka chakar hai sahibo. ' Yeh to ho ga' ..
Shezad you are doing an amazing job. Taking this topic Headon takes alot of mental strength
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Great video
Much needed
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اللّٰہ کی سنت یہ ہے کہ سر تن پہ لگا اور آ پ لوگوں کی سنت یہ ہے کہ ایک شخصیت کی خاطر سر تن سے جدا اور قومی ترانہ بھی یہی گانا ہے کہ آ پ رحمۃ للعالمین ہیں اس سے بہتر یہی تھا کہ رحمۃ للعالمین نہ ہی آ تے۔
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ !
جزاك الله خيرا !
Engineer ali mirza, really gives true and straightforward answers with references great person!
On this contentious subject, Ilyas, Arafat and Mirza spoke with clarity. Sahil came across like a coward and a charlatan.
ggreat job yar , anawar mehmood sb you r doing great work for the future of Pakistan
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Sahils response was beyond ridiculous, he knows about everything other than TLP... What a clown
May Allah guide us All and gather Muslim Ummah Ameen!
Behtareeen ❤ , The Ball in Military Court 😂 .
Whatever u say how much ever u defend ur religion is not peacefull .. just u guys escape by saying es Jamaane ka us zamaneekaaa .. what kind of book came from god which is not applicable in all the time …
Mere Bhai koi Religion peacful nahi; Ialam may be one of more violent ones.
Didn't expect that Arafat Mazhar part will be the most important one.... Can't thank this guy more. I am not sure what crazy people will do to our deen and country... but I am witness that Arafat Mazhar did his job.
Excellent work you compile all important person in one vedio
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He's right
important for the society as a whole
Love to see Arafat Mazhar speaking such blatantly with the facts, hope for more sane voices like him in the country in every field..
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Great Man engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza ❤
Another Gift .... thank you sir ❤
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Engineer sahb is the best. He's gives solution in the best way possible. 👌
Watch Ex Muslim Sahil, Sameer, Adam seeker....save Islam
One aspect that doesn't get highlighted is that at least in Pakistan, it is an asymmetrical debate. Regardless of whether the arguments come from hate or are educated or just difference of opinion, one side has violence on its side and the other doesn't. So everyone tiptoes around "sensitive" aspects just in the interest of an interesting concept called "not dying".
True
@@ThePakistanExperience this idea that anyone who denies a prophet in his lifetime is wajib-ul-qatl is itself quite horrifying to me. Like what about basic decent humanity? Not everyone will be convinced, what about freedom or religion?
It will take another 20 years or so until we will start seeing the results of the efforts people like Shehzad bhai are making to educate our awaam. Same like we are suffering the consequences of 40 odd years of Zia's policies.
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U.P. and Pakistan are two sides of the same coin.
Majority of people that came to pakistan during partition were from U.P
They were actually from Punjab @@Guns-Roses.29
@@daniyalsakhawat979 I am talking about Urdu speaking Mujajirs
@@daniyalsakhawat979 Punjab Pakistan me hi hai
@@manjeet4813 I meant indian side of Punjab
Wow what a power full pod cast
Bro is a true jihady fighting for islam and peace may Allah bless you
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Aik time tha jb shehzad sahil adeem ko tount karta tha or aj unky thumbnail laga kar views ly rha 😂
Btw sahil ne law ka kaha ye nhi kaha ky mob khud law apny haat main ly out of context baat sahil pe daal rhy
What if I shout on top of building something similar to azan for Sanatan or Christianity in saudi qatar then what will happen?
You are doing such fight ❤❤❤
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This Arafat Mazhar is such an impressive young man.
@Harris sultan se aap debate karo iss topic par. Vo bhi to facts pe baat karta hai. I have seen that liberals of pakistan 🇵🇰 never criticise islam, they allways defend it. As if there is no problem in islam, everything is all good. India 🇮🇳 me to yaha k liberals openly humare bhagwan tak ko gali dete hai, iss had tak pahoch gaye hai vo log. Religion me jo bhi negative point hai usko jaroor criticise karna chaahiye, chahe vo koi bhi religion ho but in a sophisticated manners. Pakistani liberals out of fear won't criticise islam and indian liberals has gone too far
abusing something or someone isn't criticism it just shows lack of knowledge if you cant defend your claims with facts you choose violence simple as that
What you think about islamic migration in European countries
Please release English captions, I can speak and understand Urdu, but just barely above a basic level. I have to rewatch certain parts over and over to try and understand.
Ilyas sb, very logical.
زبردست
Now question for ilyad SB what if someone declared you kafir based on your beliefs that you don't believe on return of Jesus or mehdi, they way your saying kufr of ahmadies. If Ahmadi belief is kufr then hazrat ibne Arabi and hazrat qasim nanatvi( founder of deoband) were on same beliefs.