DEWALT 20V FlexVolt Advantage 4-1/2" - 5" Paddle Switch Angle Grinder DCG416 Vs DCG418 Review
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DEWALT is adding a lot of different lines to their 20-volt tools. Some seem designed to work better with high amp-hour 20-volt tools (Power Detect) and some work better with FlexVolt batteries (Flexvolt Advantage). no matter how you look at this, parts of it are good for the consumer. In this case, the DEWALT DCG416 FlexVolt Advantage is a smaller tool with great power and would complement a FlexVolt Grinder. This is the first FlexVolt advantage tool that seems to stand out and give a reason for someone to own the FlexVolt 60v tool and the FlexVolt Advantage 20V tool.
The DEWALT 20V FlexVolt Advantage 4-1/2" - 5" Paddle Switch Angle Grinder is also the first Flexvolt Advantage tool that seemed to stand out with the FlexVolt battery compared to the 8.0Ah 20-volt battery pack. There was a significant difference between any 20-volt battery pack and the FlexVolt battery pack.
The DEWALT 20V FlexVolt Advantage 4-1/2" - 5" Paddle Switch Angle Grinder is a tool that we believe will be purchased by FlexVolt owners because of its smaller size and good power. Also, when using a FlexVolt battery, this tool will outlast the real FlexVolt in runtime almost 2 to 1. There are a lot of benefits to the smaller 20-volt angle grinder. Power is the only thing that the larger 60-volt FlexVolt tool has over the small FlexVolt Advantage.
Pricing on some of the FlexVolt advantage tools has to start to come down soon. We know the prices are higher with a FlexVolt battery because they are a new style and provide more power, but in many cases, the 20-volt FlexVolt Advantage is more expensive than the 60-volt FlexVolt tool and battery. This should all settle out in the future. If you are looking for a deal, the DCG414 we listed at the top of the description is a kit with 2 batteries and a good grinder for the same price as the FlexVolt Advantage kit with one battery. Granted the DCG414 is the older FlexVolt model, but it still has more power than the DCG416.
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Just pick up both of em. I use my DCG416 for smaller jobs, such as debur, polish, smaller 5" disc grinding, etc. and I use my DCG418 for hog work such as structural jobs, wide flanges, cutting discs, etc. I carry both of them to the job site, as well as use them in the shop. I have a 4 bay fast charger to keep the batteries cycled and always charged. I have a 12ah, two 9ah and two 6ah 60v batteries. I also have two 8ah, two 6ah, two 5ah, two 4ah and six 2ah 20v batteries. I never have to stop working. I've been with DeWALT for a few years now, and I love them. Milwaukee used to be my go-to, until I tried DeWALT. I highly recommend them.
Finally someone who does a proper comparison for the highest power demand tools in the De-Grinder lines. Summary: Straight to the FLEXVOLT, and the advantage if budget.
Thanks for helping me make up my mind.
Wrong,and wrong again
@animal79thecat Not wrong mr 2 year comment
I wish they’d do the FlexVolt design as a 20v. That classic DeWalt handle is just so ergonomic and comfortable to use
Thanks for the great video as always. I have the 418 and use it a lot. My Mac guy had the 416 on the truck with the flex volt 6ah . I checked it out and I liked that it was small and kind of a baby brother to my 418. He gave a great deal on the set and it is serving me well. I use it on smaller projects and tighter areas where the 418 is not practical. It’s a nice tool. 👍
416 and 418 are all outdated they have a 440 that will shit on both of them.
You did a review of the “power detect” 415 last year.
Which cordless is more powerful?
Thanks for video ,btw is that a plastic cap on top of the gearbox?
I'm a bit of an asshole when it comes to posting a comment on YT videos (because the majority suck badly). You are a very nice guy and I enjoy your videos! Stay safe; cheers!
Always informative good content & indepth 👊💯🤝
I have the 20v and batteries up to the 8. In my opinion they all suck in discharging to quickly. Also I have the 413 grinder. What is the difference between the 414 and others to my 413?
I'm watching this and in an ADD moment, started waiting for the dry dead grass and the sparks get together for some "California Action".
Considering that it rained last night and again an hour after shooting the video, I think we are safe.
@@WorkshopAddict My ADD thanks you.
Thankyou. I 'like to know what is the running time of the various batteries respectively please
The real star of this video is that shank of rusty metal you demo’d on.
Thank you for the video. I'm debating the 20v random polisher, and batteries. Would you say the Flexvolt 6ah are the same as a 20v 6ah ? They're only a few dollars more, just not sure if it'll be of a benefit. Thanks
As far as runtime, they are the same, but the FV 6.0 has 15 cells and the 20-volt 6Ah has 10 cells. FV will weigh more and do better under high amp draws by keeping the voltage higher, but in this case would make a larger battery pack to work around.
@@WorkshopAddict Thank you. I was thinking they might last longer with the higher draw. From what I'm seeing, the polisher does use quite a bit of power too. Also some of the newest batteries using the 21700 hold up well.
I have one great tool but why can’t dewalt make a holder in the handle for the alien wrench
any of these cordless grinders have adjustable speed?
Thank you for this video. Extremely helpful before purchasing one of these tools. Thank you!
Why I.t did not accept all hook and loop sanding pad. Both are 5/8-11size but I tried all types in shop the screw is not. Matching
I have the flathead dewalt i can never wait to find a use for it
I have the 414 and would like to upgrade to the 418 but the 414 hasn't failed me yet. I'm really anxious to see you compare the drills. 996 vs 998 vs 999.
Next week
Thanks for the review very informative
Do u get a power increase on the power detect when u switch from 8ah to flexvolt the way u get with the flex advantage?
From my experience, even with the new FlexVolt batteries, you do not get an increase like the FA tools do. Look at the video we just did and compared the Power detect drill to the FlexVolt Advantage drill. There was no increase in the PD using FlexVolt batteries, but the PD kept up with the FA to a point. The FA performs better with smaller batteries.
How about compare it to the original XR ?
How does this compare to the kobalt grinder
How does this new flex volt grinder compare to the metabo hpt G3612da. Your the only one I have seen test both. Can you please respond so I know which 1 to buy.
Drill metabo grinder Dewalts
The 8ah and 5ah baterry those are not just the capacity to run longer ? AH is amps hours right? That affects the performance of the tool? Like my drills I have 2ah batteries and 5ah but that just for run time or I'm wrong ?
In some cases you get more power, especially on tools that draw a lot of power like grinders and circ saws, recips, etc. Ive even seen where a grinder ruined a brand new 2ah battery, I guess because it over discharged.
Could you please do a video using the flex volt on how fast you can strip the paint off of the john deere hood.
How about a case IH hood. Only brand I have that has a metal hood. LOL
I have one quick question that's kind of confusing. On the flexvolt advantage system do you have to use the flexvolt advantage system battery to utilize the extra power or can you use any flexvolt battery to utilize the same power as the flex
volt advantage battery
On the FlexVolt advantage, you need to use a 6Ah battery or higher to get full power. It can be an XR or Flexvolt battery to get the power.
Maybe if you put a diamond blade might be good for tile work
Maybe you should have tried the 6 a h rather than 9 a h flexivolt 60 volt , which is probably why DeWalt provided 6 amp hour and the kits set . Hey man thanks for the video much appreciated
I have 2 flexvolt 9 ah batteries and I use it for the cordless construction light. What would you recommend for something like that since power does not matter but runtime is more important?
Are we talking grinders or lights?
@@WorkshopAddict I mean the power of a flexvolt battery is important on a grinder for the power. So I also use the flexvolt for that. But would you recomend the flexvolt for a light? Because on a light run time is more important than power. Thanks and like your reviews
Yes
Another great video. I'm just not getting the FlexVolt Advantage Tools , because if I have to buy a FV battery to get the most power out of this tool , I'm just going to go with the 60v FlexVolt stuff and get All the Power. I already have a few Power Detect Tools and a few 8.0ah batteries , so that's the way I'm going , but I'd still Love to See the FVA vs. PD , how do you think those two compare to each other ? 👍🛠🖖
Pd a fa are so close with the right batteries. Right now fa takes it because of the 12ah fb batt.
the thing i’ve found about the grinder in particular is that it just eats batteries so damn fast… i’m thinking of getting the fva to have in addition to the big boy so i can like grind plates without having to use 3 9.0s
Well the flexvolt is basically a 60 volt tool that runs off 20 volt batteries
For most people, the XR will be the best since you get sufficient performance with the best runtime... But for professionals or people that has knows what they want in a tool, dewalt is giving them a lot of options... either go with flexvolt for max performance, power detect/flexvolt advantage for added performance with great runtime.
Just a curious Dewalt grinder newbie . Your videos on tools seem to be very educational so I have a question. I see a lot of grinder review videos with the user using a Type 1 disk in
the video without a Type 1 guard. Shouldn't a user be using a Type 1 guard with a Type 1 disk
(like the Dewalt manual says) or is it common practice among experienced users to ignore the manuals and the safety advice in them?
You don’t need a guard. Just use your safety squints.
Prudence the safety bloat. Who can ever get any work done?
Think the cut out is a safety feature on the grinder. Could be wrong
Very useful video, thank you.
Good review! What do you think about watt-power, inch pounds etc in power tools? How much do you believe those specs?
They all give you an idea of power in a reputable brand. I was stating the 1550 watt comparison so people could compare it to the Dewalt Power Detect, not saying to go across the brand and compare.
I started to think that this new flexvolt advantage is a waste. Instead buy the batteries to corresponding tools.20v Batteries to 20v tools and flexvolt batteries to flexvolt tools SIMPLE. You want more power and feel like flexvolt is for you get it but if not then stay with XR
I noticed you used a flexvolt on the 20v max Grinder only at the end of your video. I saw a video where they recommended NOT to use the felxvolt batteries on any 20 volt max tools. Your thoughts? Can I use flex flexvolts on my regular dewalt Cordless tools which are all Brushless?
Or will there future shortages on the tools due to extra juice always in ?
There are 2 failsafes to prevent overvoltage, a mechanical and an electrical switch. The 20V tools cannot access 60V because they don't have the tangs to trigger the mechanical switch and they don't have the 6 pins (as mentioned in the video, they only have 4) to access the electrical switch.
So no, it's pretty impossible to ruin your 20V tools.
@@urano4810 beat me to it.
XR is equal to Power Detect is equal to FlexVolt Advantage, they all use 20V. There may be some motor and esc improvements but those are not 50%! It's simple, the bigger battery you have the more power you will get.
You can tell by the amount of sparks which battery is stronger
O yea for ppl looking at these tools how does the flexvolt advantage compare with a 6ah which is wat you get in the kit compared to the 9ah used in this video. I imagine theres a power difference there too since the 9 is 21700 cells vs the 6 which is 18650 cells
I've seen a black and decker reply on Amazon flexvolt 6ah battery question that the 6ah flexvolt battery is made with 20700 cells now.
@@brad0805 I can confirm this - the new 'XR' 6AH packs have the new larger cells in them
@@CLRH2O the new NON flexvolt batteries do, yes.
I already have the flexvolt dcg418 and its beast but i also have the 20v flathead model. I wish dewalt would make the flathead model again in flexvolt advantage or power detect. I already use an 8 or flexvolt on it already and its a good grinder but i def wouldnt mind more power but because i already have the flexvolt model theres no way im giving up the flathead design for tight spots for more power. Both grinders have a place due to 20v grinder jus being much smaller then the flexvolt. I dont see the point with circ saws or recip saws when there still the same size
Same here love the flathead but can’t beat the power of the big boy
What model is the tractor that is always behind you?
4044
I'm using 406 and have just bought 418, it's strongest cordless grinder that I have seen. Maybe I will buy 416, it's look smaller than my 406.
Would you take a full angle grinder over the smaller cutoff tool grinder dewalt offers? They seems to do a similar job.
For me, yes. But the work I do allows me to use a full size angle grinder and the other wheels. I guess it would depend on your needs.
@@WorkshopAddict thanks for the reply
Great video
12amp hour on the 20v grinder should run all day
IF the tool is only using the same 20v.....an increases in AH, whether it being flexvolt or not you are just adding runtime, no?
Yes, you add runtime, but also the ability to discharge and hold higher amps from the battery under load.
Los esmeriles estan perfectos sólo que la entrada de aire está mal ubicada, es un mal diseño en donde pone uno la mano y eso evita que entre aire al motor a excepción del esmeril flexvolt
Amp Hours is not a measure of power, it is a indication of how long it will run.
Great vid brother. I think we will see different amounts of gain on different tools because of different motor sizes obviously the circular saw being a great example. It's the lighter weight that has me concerned...have they installed cheaper made internals on the Flexvolt advantage....time will tell.
I have multiple Milwaukee M18 grinders.... I have as many grinders as I do impact wrenches if that says anything..... And I think Dewalt makes a better grinder than Milwaukee. I have 4 or 5 corded Dewalts, 5 cordless and they all get used over my Milwaukees. Because Dewalt stepped up in the last few years and worked to correct older issues and make good compact grinders for jobsites, I think they have the game figured out. Milwaukee on the other hand seems to only care about how much power they can make with a cordless tool and can limit the quality they make to that power. My AC Brushless corded Dewalts would rock and Milwaukee.
@@WorkshopAddict I completely agree with you. I'm very disappointed with a lot of the new fuel tools.
Amp hour is only capacity so when a battery is 5AH or 9AH that makes no difference in the actual current that it can deliver. Current is measured in amps not amp hours these are two completely different things.
This is why the 5AH and 8AH feel exactly the same because the amperage or current is the same. The flexvolt battery on the other hand (doesn't matter that it's 9AH) provides more current
and can sustain higher loads. That's the reason it feels different. Either way though great comparison thank you for the video.
nobody mentions/knows that 😃 watched other reviews, also comparing batteries with different ah and claiming, tools with higher ah batteries perform better 😃 placebo effect 😃😃
Unfortunately you are wrong, 9AH battery has more cells and thus gives small advantage in current it can provide. In multiple comparison, especially with reciprocating saw, they indeed provides different level of amperage. Why do you think more cells doesn't provide more current that it can deliver?
@@Laohei0103 more cells does not mean it can provide more current this is simple math.
It just means that it can sustain those levels of current for longer periods of time but the current is the same whether it's 5ah or 9ah or 55ah battery. So no I'm not wrong here but you're entitled to your opinion.
@@Tonyplat98 Do your own test and research please. More cell does mean it is "capable" or discharge higher current without damaging the cell and it could be related how batteries are managed. You can have your conclusions, even if it is contrary to many videos available.
@@Laohei0103 bro... please go back to school or learn something prior to arguing a pointless opinion which is just an opinion of yours btw. more ah does not mean more current period....
Hi,
I know the paddle style is a safety issue for the osha or industrial shop . For the average home owner, small garage shop, carpenters or smaller metal shop DeWalt should have their two 20v grinder models like the UK. The paddles and side switch style.
Again, i get the paddle so call safety. It just a pain to keep holding the paddle down. Look Makita has a dam switch on the top. I decided to buy the makita for that feature plus the handle design is much comfortably then any other 18v company. Don't get me wrong the flexvolt does have a very comfortable handle grip.
The only two things makita needs to improve on their grinder is add a disk break and a better release system on the disk guard.
Just wanted to share my thoughts
We all like different tools. I have to hold the angle grinder and I never feel like the paddle switch is hard to operate. BUT, with that said, I do not use a battery grinder for large jobs. Even I do not have the batteries needed for that.
@@WorkshopAddict
I get your point on larger jobs. I still have my corded grinder but even that one has a side switch. That's why i decided to get the makita cordless switch style. That's actually the only tool i have that's makita. I use milwaukee and dewalt tools but i couldn't deal with the paddle style cordless grinder by both companies. It just might be me, but I do like the switch style better. I was just hoping we can choose either style if they were available in the US.
Thanks for the video comparison
Most angle grinders are offered with a paddle and side switch. Bosch normally makes a few different models of the same grinder. Milwaukee and Dewalt do the same. I have mostly corded side switches and cordless paddles.
Dewalt has a thumb switch model it's available
@@BigHayes7771
Yes, DeWalt has a cordless side switch model but it's only sold in the UK and Australia. Not in the USA.
Best Video
Cant help but notice the lack of x-lock guess that thing was a dud. Maybe it would have catched on as it did with multi tools if it came out earlier.
odin it's owned by bosh other tool companies aren't going to pay for the licensing
@@BigHayes7771 bosch also invented sds plus and sds max, can you think of any rotary hammer drill that doesn't have that. x lock will be the standard in the future, x lock saw blades are another thing thats coming..
@@BigHayes7771 wrong. Makita uses it.
At 7:55 I think the motor is getting hot. Not really a battery issue.
Yeah that is what most likely happened.
Nice
Is 60v flex volt tools are able to using 20v battery??. Can u switch it??.
NO, only 20 volt batteries can use the 60 volt flexvolt batteries.
@@WorkshopAddict well then. Thanks. You saveing me. Ive almost dealing a dcg 418 baretool. I've got no flex volt.... 😅
Sorry for asking, but how long a 9ah flexvolt may Last on 418 in a single charge??.
@@benthedemolitionman.2646 Ir would depend d on the work being done. It could go as fast as 3 minutes. Take your current battery and time out your runtime. Divide by the amp hours of the battery you are using then multiply by 9 to get your number.
@@WorkshopAddict ohw well. What can i do in 3 minutes 😅. Thank you for your reply. You are really humble to share.... You helps me again and again....🙏
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how does this compare to the power detect?
Basically the same, but the PD works better with the 6 and 8 Ah 20 volts where this FA models likes the Flexvolts. We discuss this in the video.
@@WorkshopAddict would cool also to see the side by of PD and FA.
also you did mention that you were pushing harder usingbthe flexvlot. just curios if you could figure out a way to create a even push so that us viewers can really see a more accurate result less human error.
The whole lineup of flexvolt advantage is a scam. Just buy the regular flexvolt..
Good video though.
Yes exactly at the same price you might as well get it but during holidays they are competitively pricing it close or cheaper than XR
It's a good transition line for those who don't want to throw out all of their hard earned 20 volt batteries.
It’s not a scam, it’s HD’s variant of Lowe’s power detect, and basically both are just the same internally as the DCG413 maybe with some small power gain
How does this *new* DCG416 compare to the *new* DCG415 from a few months ago? czcams.com/video/z7xoW24-_mc/video.html
Flexvolt team
You are not comparing these evenly whatsoever buddy!
Dewalt, dewalt xr, dewalt flexvolt, dewalt power detect, dewalt flexvolt advantage, WTF. Milwaukee for the win
There are a lot, but Dewalt does take Milwaukee in some areas. ie Drills and saws.
@@WorkshopAddict and grinders. Because the m18 grinders are trash runtime compare to dewalts.
"Let's get it out and do some grindin'". Hah. czcams.com/video/J_8R0OWXANs/video.html
Flex volt line... r u crazy?
BIGGER BATTERIES DO NOT GIVE YOU MORE POWER!!! HIGHER VOLTAGE DOES!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The DCG416 has been tested to work for only 4-5 mins continuously then it takes a "break" and it's not because it's too hot either. The Bosch on the other hand can work 16 mins straight full load😂
This DeWalt tool is the only grinder that does that compared to it's competitors.