The Steam Deck Ultra is Here! - HUGE Screen & Battery // AYANEO Kun First Look
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2023
- If you have been looking for a Steam Deck alternative with a ton of power, a huge screen, and a monster battery, the new AYANEO Kun might be worth a look. In this video, we do a first-impressions look at Kun to see how it stacks up to the Steam Deck.
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The big fish is here.
why do all these handheld creators have layout similar to XBOX controller?
@@AllenJohn Cuz its way better than playstation :)
seems like it began, the war between small console makers to win against steamdeck :D
@@V1LKA5LT
A reminder, I didn't say the Ps controller is better than the Xbox controller. I have heard the Xbox controller has a better quality and has better response; but the xbox controller scheme is better than the ps controller scheme? I doubt it.
Almost had me thinking valve dropped a new challenger 😂, it does look like a steam deck that got updated😅 Thanks for another 🔥🔥video bud👍🏾
@@V1LKA5LTno it's because the default controller for windows is xbox
If Ayaneo would put all their resources into one device and support it for more than a month they could maybe compete with the steamdeck. Its like once a month they're releasing a new handheld
The company actually put out an official article on that. What they said is, in sum, they are a niche hardware company and their customer base will only grow if they release new SKUs.
"I've explained this quite a few times. We're not the same as Steam. It has a traffic platform where you can launch a individual SKU and use traffic advantages to gain customers. Instead, you need to reduce the user's decision costs, and you can't launch too many SKUs. However, the Windows gaming handheld brand mainly attracts users with hardware products. If there is only a single product form and the number of users cannot be increased, it may only stay in a small circle to maintain a relatively small sales volume. Instead,if we launch various types of products within the company's capabilities, it can reduce the company's risk and acquire more users." - AYANEO's CEO
@@tuanld91 They say that, but how many units are they moving? Rog Ally is supposedly closing in on half a million sold, and they don't have a "traffic platform" either.
This is exactly why I don't buy their products and stick to other companies. Because they feel like shovelwear with how many new slight iterations they are constantly pushing out.
As well as the active obfuscation of the names. Gpd and OneNote use numbering for each iterations and just change the name depending on form factor.
So it''s hard to know what is actually the best Ayaneo product for you when it feels like they are actively trying to make it confusing and get you to buy before you realize.
@@brycedayton4092 Rog Ally is not a fair comparison since it's an established company that sells a lot of gaming peripherals. Their profit from other products are the one funding Rog Ally
The price of this thing is going to be terrifying!
$1800 to $2000 USD is my guess.
@@moonlambo5229fuk that
More terrifying is that you throw your money on a Chinese, no name company.
@@MikeJones888x no whats even WORSE is that a big chunk of that chinese money goes to the CCP..
imagine funding them indirectly
@@moonlambo5229 I already struggle to justify spending $700 on the ROG Ally when I already own a Steam Deck. For $2,000 I might as well get a new gaming PC. At least then the performance will be well above the Deck. There is no way you're going to pay 3x the price and get 3x the performance. Hopefully the price ends up being something more reasonable.
personally i like it. but the pricing will put this out of the purchasing range of many. also support is a big question mark as well
too many expensive handhelds at the minute. retroid is an absolute godsend for budget handhelds.
@@joogled1839retroid pocket 3+, a $299 handheld that can run genshin better than my phone lol
imagine buying this thing at RTX4090 money only for it to be outdated in 3 months when they announce the replacement with a 120hz VRR display... i think buying this would be a HUGE risk, at the rate they announce handhelds you would be setting yourself up for a huge disappointment. They have to have all the best features at this price in my opinion, cant lack what other handhelds have at half the price. You just know it will be superseded in short time aswell.
@@jinx20001frrrr
Yeah, looks gorgeous but price and lack of support will make this DOA. They pump out way too many devices.
It’s cool to see another company implement trackpads into their handhelds. It’s a feature I didn’t expect to love so much when I first got my Steam Deck.
It's an illusion tho - because software support just isn't there. Controller settings for these things are extremely crude compared to sophisticated power house that Steam Controller Setup is. I'd be astonished if these trackpads can mimic 100th of Deck's power. Unfortunately many users never will understand the greatness of SD controller because they're normies that either play console ports only or otherwise never experiment themselves with creating their own control schemes.
@@Micromationlittle silly fanboy
I never play games with the trackpads. That said, they're an absolute must. I don't like using them, but when I need them I'm so happy they're there.
I feel the same way.
This handheld doesn’t matter since the updated version of this will be out in a month after it’s launch. Customer service and commitment to hardware is more important. That’s why I personally love that the switch is still being fully supported.
THANK YOU
Switch supported lol. They don’t care about it at all. Still missing basic functions everything before the switch had.
@@deathshade777found the hater 😂. I have three switches and more games than I care to count. It’s a great system with great support.
@@deathshade777over 120 million sold. Keep hating.
Comparing the Switch to these devices is comparing apples to oranges. These handheld PC’s are so much more.
Fantastic first look! What a behemoth of a handheld! And that internal battery…My GOODNESS.
Awesome, thank you for the info. It makes it easier to choose what to get.
I loved the screen comparison you did. For me the screen is the make it or break it part of all these handhelds. Also can't wait to see what the secret non filmed section is...
This makes me appreciate the ergonomics of steam-deck track pads so much.
The big question with the trackpads has less to do with mouse functions and more to do with if Aya's software can map functions to the Kun's trackpads similarly to how the Steam Deck's trackpads can be used as a mouse or for things like radial menus.
The position of them is terrible, Taki's hands look really uncomfortable in his demonstration.
Lol they would never reach steam in the software department
Thank you very much Taki! 🔥
WOW, what a great package presentation! Now I want it!
I've been waiting for this!! However, if the price will likely be the price of 3 - 4 Steam Deck, I may wait for a Steam Deck 2.
... and with those horrible ergonomics, it also isn't a replacement / offbrand Deck Pro, but only another gaming handheld with an 7840u, a bigger screen and terrifying pricing.
Give it like 3-4 years for a hardware upgeade, a revision steam deck might soon maybe in a year with better battery and better looking screen they say.
@@Jaxv3rrumors are it will be in 2025.
The steam deck nailed the ergonomics and control layout so perfectly for this kind of large handheld that literally anything else seems inferior
The unboxing experience is just unreal!
Whoa what an unboxing! Gorgeous packaging!
When I've seen those trackpads for the first time, I was happy and hopeful too ... until I fully realized the implications of their low placement, which makes them an ergonomic nightmare to play with and therefore not at all suited for gaming, which means, they are only a minor upgrade from the GPD Win 4's optical mouse for Windows navigation.
So this fact combined with a probably outrages price, makes the GPD Win 4 (which also supports lower refresh rates and has an actual physical keyboard in a much smaller form factor) a much more compelling purchase if you don't mind the smaller screen ... and then there still also is the Steam Deck, which remains unrivaled in terms of pricing, ergonomics, customizability, low TDP performance for 6-8 hours of battery life AND which has screen replacements available to mitigate the advantage of the Kun's better screen.
I don't see a substantial market for the Kun except from some elitist with too much money to spend ... which is aggravating, because the stupid ergonomic design, which unfortunately is THE deal breaker regarding the Kun's main selling point trying to be an offbrand Deck Pro.
So in conclusion:
The King still remains to be beaten.
"which remains unrivaled in terms of pricing, ergonomics, customizability, low TDP performance for 6-8 hours of battery life" AyaNeo Kun will crush the Steam Deck in terms of battery level since it has 75wh battery. Yes the Steam Deck performs well at sub 10w, but the Kun at 10w will easily match/surpass the Steam Deck at lower wattages, and provide much more battery life. The only advantage Steam Deck has is the Price. Ergonomics you are just speculating on since you have never held or used the Kun, and that will ultimately come down to preference and be a subjective metric. In terms of every quantifiable metric and spec, the Kun eviscerates the Steam Deck.
@@slickrounder6045The point with the bigger battery you've made is true, but the low TDP is not (there are test out there from DF and others which prove what I wrote).
Furthermore, the advantage of the bigger battery is probably negated by also the bigger and brighter screen, which again leaves the Kun at a disadvantage ... but this is something, which remains to be seen, because this actually is speculation.
Also the ergonomic point isn't speculation at all. Did you actually watch the video?! Taki pointed out and even demonstrated this exact thing in his video 🤦♂️
... so my point stands and your arguments are for the most part nonesense.
@@slickrounder6045
1. It will crush the deck in weight too, at least 900g from what is revealed. People who were complaining about the deck size and weight will just find it worse with this Kun, especially with less grip as shown out by Taki.
Ergonomics is definitely worse with a thinner grip, and that trackpads positioning you can see how awkwardly Taki is spreading his fingers when trying to reach for the triggers when using the trackpad. 😂
2. We still need see how good/bad their total power draw is to see how much impact the larger battery does.
It will definitely be longer but I strongly doubt the increase in battery life is going to be proportional to the larger size compared to the deck.
Their air plus lineup has a power sucking screen and possibly other less efficient areas as well, despite having a 46wh battery in that one, at the same tdp it end up lower battery life then a steam deck and ROG ally as tested by Digital Foundry.
@@sulac4ever170 I said the Kun at 10w will beat Steam Deck at sub 10w. This has been confirmed by ThePhawx, who found that at 10/11w 7840u start pulling past the Steam Deck. Its only if both are sub 10w where the Steam Deck will edge out the win in performance (Atleast until there are functioning drivers at some point for the 780m. Maybe it will never win at say 7w versus 7w, but there is still room for improvement for it at all wattage levels in terms of Drivers. Meanwhile the Steam Deck has reached its zenith). That's a moot point though since the Kun can just be at 10/11 W and still have much longer battery life than the steam deck at 7w, while comfortably outperforming it. This won't be up for dispute, we are just waiting on tests to confirm exact numbers for the Kun, but we have seen somewhat comparable numbers from another 8'4 inch handheld with the 7840u and a 65wh battery (Drastically larger than the Steam Deck's 40wh, but still smaller than the Kun's 75wh battery) in the Aokzoe A1 Pro which beats the Steam Deck in terms of battery life and performance even if it has go to 10w to nab the performance win.
The bigger battery advantage is never negated by anything. One can lower the Kun's brightness well below 100% and it will still be brighter than the Steam Deck while being optimal for battery life (somewhere in the 50% to 70% brightness range). Yes we don't have fim numbers yet till we get more testing from Taki and ThePhawx and maybe Retro, but what we do know for a fact is that the Kun has a much brighter display, so even if its brightness is lowered by a fair amount it will still be more than bright enough.
Ergonomics is subjective in terms of what form factor people will prefer. Taki can point out obvious facts like the trackpad is lower than the Steam Deck and its a farther distance than the Steam Deck's trackpad relative to the joysticks and buttons, but that doesn't necessarily mean its inferior in terms of ergonomics, its just a different form factor that is more suited to people with larger hands. I'll admit for people with tiny/small hands they probably will prefer the Steam Deck if they expect to make decent use of the Trackpads atleast.
@@samh5886 Breaking News, larger devices with larger screens will weight more.. Who woulda thought.
No doubt you are right that the Kun won't have near double the battery life of the Deck despite having an 87.5% larger battery. I'd expect it to be closer to 50% more gaming at similar/better performance. That will depend on settings like Brightness and the like though. We will have to wait and see concrete reviews to know exactly, these are just rough estimates based on similar devices like the 8'4 Aokzoe A1 Pro with a 65wh battery and 7840u.
Another nice one from Ayaneo. However, I really believe that their pricing and their foreign support will always put them into a niche for this market. The Rog Ally is already getting a ton of 3rd party accessories and more is pouring in.
I don't agree with this being a nice one. It seems like a all around great device, but they unfortunately ruined everything with the horrible placement of the trackpads, which would have made it an actual contender for an offbrand Deck Pro, if they hadn't f'd it up. Without this (its main low-key selling point), it only is another handheld with 7840u and a big screen, which in practice can't be maxed out anyway for actual practical play ... and all of this for an presumably terrifying price.
Ayaneo should have spotted this and arranged the inputs differently and the fact that they didn't is very unfortunate, aggravating and stupid IMO.
Problem with hand held pc is they are rarely portable.
It's 1000$ for 16GB RAM and 512GB disk space
@@midnightlightgames Which would put them $300-400 out of the market let alone having non-local support. A tough one to swallow....
That unboxing was glorious
Good video looking forward to the performance video
90% there's something more under the kickstand: my guess is M2 slot 😏😏
What's a m2?
I'm guessing this is going to be in the $1,800-2,000 range when it comes out. That said, I absolutely love the design. It might be the most aesthetically pleasing and premium-looking handheld I've seen. Pretty much the only thing I'm seeing that I don't like that that funky circle d-pad.
@@ganjaguy930 Probably someone looking for a serious gaming laptop but still mostly wants a gaming handheld is my guess.
@@ganjaguy930 Oh yeah for sure that's a really scary thought. I do think though just due to the sheer size of it however that this would automatically limit your use case. By knowing it's so expensive as well personally I'd be want to be way more delicate with it. Who knows as well but they could also sell protective grip cases similar to the ones made for the Switch or Steam Deck. I already think this is safer than a laptop, but a grip case and tempered glass screen protector would make this a whole lot more durable.
That’s a weird price range
FULL REVIEW PLEASE, OVERDUE AND WE ALL CANT WAIT
Just started following your page. Can't wait to see more videos on this beast before I back it. Currently just have a Steam Deck but I'm a lover of handhelds. So I'll be waiting for more reviews before I buy this or the Ally.
I have become too used to the touch pads on the steam deck to go to a machine without them. Also the capacitive touch on the joysticks is great for mmo games without an action camera as you can set touching the joystick to right click and control the camera that way. The capacitive touch joysticks and the touch pads are two of the main hardware features that the steam deck has had over other devices, so it's cool to see another company competing with them on more fronts. Competition is great for us consumers, so I love seeing handheld PCs blow up like they have recently.
Those track pads look painful.
I wish they would place the right joy stick where the start button is and then slide the touch pads up.
Also slide the D-pad up where the select button is and slide the touch pad up
or
slide the left joystick where the select button is and place the D-pad where the left joystick is currently
Agreed
Absolutely! They try to be a offbrand Deck Pro but fail in ergonomics ... this seems so immensely stupid and aggravating to me.
@@sulac4ever170 facts
This device is owesome and looks well built. Ayaneo 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Nice will definitely go for it
By just the packaging alone I could tell that this will be very value priced.
IR face unlock on a handheld feels redundant when a fingerprint already exists.
This
Yeah, it would make much more sense if they put a fingerprint reader on a thumbstick
OMG this looks so cool
Great overview bruh. Price is def gonna be important. Keep up the great work.
It's 1000$ for 16GB RAM and 512GB disk space
I like that it has the 2 trackpads because I do actally use them on the Deck.
When I've seen that first, I was happy and hopeful too ... until I fully realized the implications of their low placement, which makes them an ergonomic nightmare to play with and therefore not at all suited for gaming, which makes them only a little bit better than the GPD Win 4's optical mouse for Windows navigation.
So this fact combined with the outrages price, makes the GPD Win 4 (which also supports lower refresh rates and has an actual physical keyboard and a much smaller form factor) a much more compelling purchase if you don't mind the smaller screen ... and then there still is the Steam Deck to beat, which remains unrivaled in terms of pricing, ergonomics, low TDP performance and customizability.
@@sulac4ever170the Ally is for me tbh, because I can't buy the steamdeck
@@sulac4ever170steamdecks are still expensive as shit, it’s out of the buying range for a lot of people. and for the performance vs something like the rog ally doesn’t even compare when you’re paying that price.
This may be new Steam Deck competitor but not for the price, this will be more expensive than 2S imo
... and not with those awful ergonomics, if you want to use the trackpads for gaming (which you can't).
steam deck isnt even competing anymore. Its been left in the dust dude. Horrible aesthetic. outdated washed out screen, terrible screen to body ratio, can hardly even play the newest aaa titles.
@@const3llations_370 amazing software support from the manufacturer, unlimited input customization options, huge community support (for input, compatibility, modding, ...) due to steam integration, software mods to customize the already incredible feature stuffed firmware, rich availability of hardware mods (including screen replacements), trackpads actually usable for RTS and FPS as mouse, still unrivaled low TDP performance (show me only one of its competitors, who can achieve 7-8+ hours of runtime for older and simple games!), developer support, who actually optimize for the Deck because of its great install base, ... and those are only the thing from the top of my head.
EDIT
... oh and actually good and very well thought out ergonomics, which are far more important than looks (which aren't bad at all IMO) for a gaming HANDHELD.
@@const3llations_370 it's handheld. it shouldn't play new aaa titles. if you want to play new aaa titles then buy ps5, not steam deck
Daaaang so that's the one I've been waiting for!
I'd love to know how the battery fairs compared to all these newer handled... Can't wait for the next video. Thanks for this awesome video
I very much like the bigger screen... respect Aya for trying something like this.
Alas, the general problem with this device seems to be exactly what attracts people to get the Deck in the first place.
It's in both the touchpads and the ergonomics of it. While it's interesting that Aya tried replicating the touchpads, it's hard to imagine a 3rd party will be able to do something like Valve's touchpads... it's not just generic touchpads, there's a whole ton of development put into those. There's a reason they are square, clicky, and the way they are - even if some don't like them.
Ergonomics seems to also always be kind of a problem for manufacturers... or rather, it's the strong suit of big brands that have been working with gaming for a long time. There's a lot of testing, development and prototyping that Valve put into the positioning of each component, and so even if the portable looks a bit awkward, there is a prioritization on real life usage, so you kinda know it'll be comfortable.
These might be the biggest problem with Chinese manufacturers releasing multiple device in such a short period of time... while it is impressive and attends lots of different demands, it feels a bit like they are throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks, iterative development be damned.
But I could be wrong on those.... in the end, the defining factor for people like me will be price and warranty. If it's too expensive, I just couldn't pay the price without having local support and local warranty. Which the Deck also doesn't have, which is why I'm likely going with the Asus ROG Ally... it started selling recently and officially where I live, so that's what I'm going with.
I'm just hoping a SteamOS alternative releases for it soon, fully working and compatible. I just don't want to deal with Windows anymore.
Thanks for the review Taki!
They only make hardware. If they dont release multiple models a year back to back they will be bankrupt and out of business immediately.
I love it when company like Aya exist. Somebody need to push the innovation, and Aya is not afraid to try new things.
If only Steam Deck exist we'll get Steam Deck 5 and it'll be looking exactly the same as the OG..
Aya is like Nintendo of handheld PC. Not afraid of changes.
@@Adam_IB It should look exactly like the OG - the ergonomics and versatility of SD are unmatched so far and by a country mile at that. The only lackluster things about the Deck is abysmal screen (brightness, resolution) and lack of meaningful I/O. It's a travesty that Deck didn't come with at least fully featured USB4 port (ideally should have 2 or 3 total). And Aya is very much afraid of changes because what they did and still do is provide obsolete gamepad design with abysmal software support. Aya should work with Valve to support their devices and integrate compliant control schemes, because there's nothing coming even close to Steam Controller Configurator. No other software in the entire history of PC (or console) gaming ever matched even fraction of that tool's power.
@@Adam_IB Not so smart comment. Valve were much more innovative with their Controller and SteamDeck later(that bring this innovations to handheld). Their Valve Index was also innovative. If there would be no SteamDeck, there would be n other copycats, like AyaNeo, Legion GO,Asus ROG Ally, etc.
And even Lenovo Legion Go was more innovative (with their detachable comntrollers, working as mouse). But I would prefer this AyaNeo more, because it's more suited as SteamDeck replacement, and cheaper that doing all pricey mods(32GB RAM mod, monoblock, DechHD, etc) with better results.
But competition means more choices and lower prices
When can you release your next video on this? It’ll really help my decision on backing the indiegogo since you’re one of the only reviewers with it right now.
Pre-ordered mine
That packaging is something else
I wonder what's the next model Aya will announce once the Kun hits the market.
The Aya Neo Jade, a Fancy, new, Powerful handheld.
The most powerful Aya has EVER put out, with both the name and Power of an Emperor it will command a wealthy price of 6-8 steam decks...
And then be thrown aside when the Aya Neo flip and Next 2 release.
Kun pocket air pro
@@theluminousone5883Yall in the comments are always so salty that a new device releases after you buy one. Just buy one that you like the look of and be happy. Who cares if another comes out? People dont act this way with laptops and tons of those release every year.
It will come in weeks. Before the kun even hits market.
Many have tried, none have truly succeeded. I look forward to the review to see if it truly can challenge the king of systems
I don't think anything will be dethroning the Switch for a good while.
As long as the game developers wont make preset for the deck, the switch will always win
It won't. Pricing and ergonomics are the Kun's downfall.
@@MegaOverclocked switch is mid
@@haysen123 switch is mid
Like somebody else here said I too love the trackpads on my Steam Deck as well. Interesting to see them implemented here.
Man that's a nice screen!
Wish it had an Oculink port. Then it would be perfect with the G1 coming out soon. Wonder what the upside/downside will be of 60Hz screen vs the 120hz variable refresh rate screens out there. Finally, with the higher resolution, but also higher TDP, how does that affect performance (both high and low TDP).
Damn… every time they release a new device it looks like the perfect handheld PC.
... and everytime it doesn't stay that way long, because the shortcomings reveal themselves quickly and sadly often also numerous.
They usually start to break down by the time Aya comes out with a new one.
I do love the idea of filming extra parts of a youtube video and then using the youtube editor to cut them out - leaving in a placeholder bit that you can later swap the edit once the information is live. Definitely looking forward to more info on this device! it looks shockingly gorgeous, regardless of whatever the price will be.
Looks nice😮
I’m not a huge fan of the bigger handhelds but this looks nice 😋
Could you imagine being a child and trying to take this to school? I tried taking a Nintendo 3DS XL to school and it felt big in my pocket but it was still doable and I tried taking an Nvidia shield to school but that thing was way too big. I had to leave it in my locker.
@@bland9876 children aren't the target demo for this product, nor for the steam deck, so irrelevant.
Secret thing: sim slot for 5G connectivity or wireless charging.
This
Can't wait to back this and as soon as they ship Aya will announce the Kun 2, AyaNeo Samurai, AyaNeo Silent Breeze Ultra 1SRNB, etc with very slight improvements.
one think I'd like to give props to ayaneo is that they did quite some research on competing device and the kun is actually a culmination of so far all they competitor's product, we have the deck's touch pads, the onexplus "big" screen, top bottom USB C plus USBA ports of the GPD win4 even the switch's wonky stand plus the SD slot.
Man, this thing is beautiful. Well done to the Aya Neo camp, glad to finally see more competitors in the large screen space.
If the dpad can match Sega 's then it's quite good, but the cap come off so easily???
Trackpads looks uncomfortable for any serious usage, does it get recognize properly by steam as a trackpads?
Really hope Aya stops the screw hiding nonsense, did they hide some in the triggers again?
Risking breaking the trigger cap clips or having trouble putting them back was a terrible experience with the Air Plus
wow...they always outdo themselves. that looks amazing
The removable side grips could allow for 3rd party custom colors ones
It looks really impressive. Unfortunately the pricing will kill any chance of it being a major competitor with the steamdeck and ROG Ally
I don't think it's supposed to be a competitor. They have the Geek/2 for that already.
So cool! The trackpads and backbuttons are a must for hi-octane FPSs like Doom Eternal. Glad to see a handheld option sporting them and more powerful than the Deck. Looking forward to that next video!
Yeah quick scoping in doom eternal on switch is basically impossible lol. I don’t know if using a trackpad helps but I really want to see how usable they are
@@thecanmanification with the Deck I can play DE reasonably well. It's better on a mouse and keyboard, but it's good enough to be enjoyable.
@@Ludecan are you using the trackpads or the sticks for aiming? Or gyro 👀
@@thecanmanification trackpads only. I tried the gyro but couldn't get used to it.
Another key thing for me were the back buttons, mapping grenade/jump/dash/flamer to them makes them accessible without taking the hand out of the trackpad or left joystick so I can aim and jump/dash at the same time
@@Ludecan Try flick stick instead - using trackpad as mouse for aiming might seem like a good fit but it's a really clunky solution. Flick stick will require some getting used to (especially if you have muscle memory from regular gamepad FPS gaming) but will ultimately prove almost as good as actual mouse.
Amazing packaging quality
Me parece un equipo muy interesante, pero creo que la empresa comete un error al meter resoluciones muy elevadas para el hardware que monta, estos dispositivos no necesitan más de 1080p en 16:9 y con eso también nos ahorramos un consumo de batería innecesario.
Si, agreed!🤓
Another month, another Ayaneo device :D
At least this one is actually a new handheld :\
Sometimes I wonder if Ayaneo is siblings with Anbernic.
xD
@TakiUdon very true - does look an interesting device, but I still think a lot of these Steamdeck like machines are missing the mark. It was never about being faster, bigger - it's about value/price to performance
IMO.
From chifi IEMs to chifi handheld PCs this hobby never ends
It is a nice unboxing.
My guess is this device will start at $1,500.
Can't wait to see the 54 watt performance numbers!
Starts at 1000$
The major thing (for me) that makes Windows bad on these handhelds is the lack of refresh rate profiles. Since these devices don't have VRR, I want my games to run as smooth as possible without manually fiddling with settings every single time. If I could simply launch an application and auto-switch to, say, 40Hz, that would be AMAZING. SteamOS definitely has better features right now that even brute-forcing with beefier hardware simply cannot match.
I hope to see a top 10 handhelds for Christmas this year
Nice!
Great review however id rather compare this to the rog ally as both are windows based machines. I sold my sd after getting the ally so im very interested. The price will never compete as its a smaller manufacturer and its not readily available. Then theres the talk abojt support and longevity as ayaneo puts out a new oroduct every month. People already complained about the rog ally being 699 let alone almost 2k and weaker gpu. This device will struggle at 1600p. It shouldve been 1080 which is the sweet spot for handheld displays and performance. I do like the build of the kun very much but i jjst cant justify this pricing and hinestly would probably be dropping res to 1080p/720 and scaling might not look as sharp being on a bigger display than both the steam deck and rog ally. I do like how there are color options as well.
I think it would be pretty sad to see the steam deck get pushed out, or it not be at the top of this market. Although this thing certainly isn’t going to do it either. The steam deck is a product for the people, this monster is going to be 3-5 times the price…
"The steam deck is a product for the people" this pretty much sums it up, valve wants the SD to be on as many hands as possible while relying on steam sales to make up for the initial price.
AYA on the other hand relies on the hardware sale profits alone hence why they keep churning out SKU after SKU.
@@TP015657 I wish everyone could see it. It just sucks to see video after video tilted “the steam deck replacement”. Or I just wish people were more pricy to business practices in general, or better yet, that shit was ran like valve across the board. Also those new knockoffs that run the cost of multiple steam decks, they only seem to look good on paper. The systems don’t get the same support and the games don’t seem to run as good, at least new big titles. I think all these new handless pretty much just deserve side eye.
While being spec overkill it's still almost same size as Deck. Well done
Another comparison of 400$ vs 1000+$ device. Solid
That wasn't a 64GB Deck.
@TakiUdon ok so 600$ vs 1500$
They're getting pretty close! Drop the camera and get a freesync panel in there and they'll have a homerun.
A homerun for 0.1% of the handheld community. The price will probably be close to if not 2k. Who, except rich people, is going to buy this?
I think this device is way too big for a handheld. It might actually be easier to carry around a thinner laptop than this bulky device. The sweet spot in Ayaneo's range is the 2S with similar specs as the Kun, a 7-inch screen, cheaper price and more portability.
Ngl it looks soooooooooo good
OMG YOU HAVE IT!!! I need to know the battery life
Taki's right when he says people are looking for reasons to not buy something rather than reasons to buy something.
I love the Deck, but I'd also like to support the handheld scene in general, perhaps one with some more power, but they all seem to compromise heavily in different areas.
The Deck is uniquely balanced in a way these others just aren't.
The Ally is pretty great and runs things significantly better. Can't give up that vrr screen
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 I love my ally. I don't even care about the bad battery life considering the performance this thing has, plus I'm always around outlets anyway
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 And it can only play games with official controller support because at the end of the day, it's obsolete 20yr old gamepad integrated with the screen... horsepower is hardly important (especially since Ally struggles against SD at low TDP - which is the only TDP you will be utilizing away from the wall socket)
"People are looking for reasons to not buy rather than reasons to buy something"
Yeah. That's called "not being a mindless consumer".
I think it might have jumped the shark. Cheers Taki.
The specs on this and increased battery look like the best glimpse we can get at a steam deck 2.0 right now.
The biggest unknown is what kind of price/performance balancing act Valve will have to do so that the next deck isn't double the price of the current one.
Wait until we're not on the brink of ww3 on top of total global economic collapse, loll
Deck is just sold almost at cost price, as consoles... so it should be at similar price, maybe a bit more, in 2024 or 2025 i guess
A comparison with the Rog Ally and Onexplayer would be better. Because the device has nothing in common with the Steam Deck.
U right
Value please hurry up and make steam OS universal. I would really love devices like these with the steam deck os
Why would Valve want to hurt Steam Deck sales?
@@j.p.9522Because steam games sales is a much much bigger portion of their revenue than steam deck sales. The steam deck is just a way for valve to capitalize on the previously unfilled x64 handheld space. They'll be happy if you're using steam, whether or not its on a steam deck.
@@j.p.9522it would drive up steam game sales tho
@@j.p.9522making steamos universal would not hurt steam deck sales. Deck is the cheapest handheld PC for the money
@@64bitmodels66 It would just invite a bigger competitor to become a loss leader to crush Steam Deck sales.
Finally a true competitor. Seriously Touchpads are a freaking must.
Price will determine if I buy this, GPD Win Max or the Win Mini. Seems nice with the track pads and all but its pretty big and must be heavy. Love the 2K display though. Thanks for the great video, only the best from Taki.
By far the most aesthetically pleasing device of all the bunch. Looks premium. But I am soo glad the Deck exists, bc there's no way I can afford this 😅
I'm a bit concerned that all these new handheld PCs coming out are not providing SteamOS out of the box, at least as an option. I expected that Valve would try to partner with other vendors to make that happen (including providing engineers to help with the integration work). I wonder what is stopping this from happening. Windows 11 is simply abysmal on a handheld.
A stripped Windows mod like ghost spectre superlite and the right frontend and support software can bridge the gap or even surpass it. I've been running Linux for 20 years but use custom Win11 setup for set-top gaming miniPCs.
@@michaelpalmer2143 I can't imagine Microsoft would let anyone ship something like that officially... There are rumors of a handheld façade for Windows being in development, that might work eventually.
Oooon NICE! Another contender in the hybrid PC market! My future gaming plans are secure as long as this keeps up. My money is still waiting on Nintendo to deliver what I feel would be the most balance, streamlined experience; but if they fail to deliver on backwards compatibility, PS4/Pro level of performance and the hybrid form factor we come to love; (if anyone of these are missing); then we got these devices to make up for it. Yeah, It would cost more to get one of these device, but for what we get in return and the ensured access to a awesome, cheap and robust Steam library that never expires; you bet it worth it!
Native landscape screen. That's a win. Allows many many older games to just work.
I have very high expectations for the Steam Deck 2 after seeing what aya and asus have managed to do.
sure, releasing it after 3-4 years, the upgrade would definitely be substantial. Having said that, you've gotta a couple more years before rumors start to float around of the Deck 2
@@gamefun2525 I'm thinking of getting the Deck, but also wondering if I should just wait a few more years for the Deck 2. I hear the screen on Deck 1 is pretty underwhelming
@@gamefun2525but what’s taking Valve so long with the Deck 2? Every PC company nowadays are dropping handhelds like nothing. And these handheld have better performance and specs than the deck. What’s Valve doing? Are they being patient or tryna surprise us with something even crazier soon?
How many devices is Ayaneo going to make? The Steam Deck is nearly perfect and it's kind of seeming like it will be as close as we get for a while. The price/value ratio cannot be beaten easily
That display is really beautiful, wish they produced a standalone version, like a small second display or a drawing tablet
5:29, there are 2 little gaps on the left and right side bottom of the back case. Can we swap out the back case/plate for another one?
Aya is going the wrong direction with pricing. Even though you didn't say for sure what the price is, I'm sure you're right. I doubt if I'll upgrade until the steam deck pro/2 comes out, as these Chinese companies will never be able to compete in the software/customer service sector of this industry.
He was not right. It's 1000$ for 16GB RAM and 512GB disk space
...what many aren't getting is that the Deck is a tremendous value for performance. You can emulate GC / PS2, and many PS3 titles, etc., as well as your Steam library of games, etc. There's nothing on the market that can touch it (yet) in that space. There's many children that hate on Valve and their product, for no other reason than immature arguments. There are more powerful handhelds out there, but they come with a steep price tag and have no where near the support that the Deck has. End of the day, the Deck wins, hands down...doesn't matter what other companies create that's similar/more powerful.
One stupid idea I would love for these devices to have is a detachable battery, so you can have a very lightweight device powered by a cable for when you are laying down on a bed.
When you want to get up you reattach the battery and disconnect the cable :)
Family somebody reviewing the ayaneo Kun I can't wait to buy this over the ally soon
Way too many cons to even be a consideration for me personally. I’ll wait for a Steam Deck 2.
No matter how much processing power they put into these overpriced handheld PC's, none of them can beat the price to performance and console-like ease of use that the steam deck offers.
Yea a great point. I Iike seeing new handhelds get released but I would never buy them over the deck. I'm not just a valve fan boy, it's steam os and the community support that add so much value to the device. I love awesome specs but I also like the complete package
The steam deck’s screen is just so damn awful. It’s not important to many, but no thanks. It’s not 2017 anymore, I expect more from my handheld’s screen.
@@emlyndewar the Deck screen is great to my eyes and there's a 1200p hdr deck screen you can buy rn, I would wait for reviews to come out first
Edit: it's on waitlist only right now
Taki, what's your thoughts on the new AYN Odin 2?
Sorry question! Are you rocking a Dbrand skin on the steam deck? Is it the Matte black one? It looks amazing in this video! Especially when it’s up and angled. Looking to buy one. With this I’m pretty convinced.
Great design but its just 60hz its dead to me 120hz now its the gold standard bye
Agree! Especially with newer and more powerful APUs on the horizon and not just from AMD