MPC AMT Revell 1971 Ford Mustang Kit History comparison
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- Here are all the recent 1971 Mustangs from AMT and Revell. How do they compare: One is brand new tooling and the other dates back to 1969. Definitely interesting on how tooling updates and modifications can change a kit.
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Hi Raoul!Its VERY fair to compare because the old(and even updated)AMT crap still asks for the same money as Revell is doing!🤣And they pushed out the 007 and MAch 1 because they wanted to get a piece of the money because the Revell Kit was everybody was talking about at that time!
Very true! With the retail price of both kits being so close together it’s just out there. That makes the Revell kit such a bargain for the quality!
It's a no brainer, here in the UK (i'm in Scotland), you'd pay at least £35 for the AMT kit, i've just bought the Revell (Europe) 71 Boss Mustang for £34 and it looks superb, i remember building the AMT 71 back in the 90's and wasn't impressed even back then, the Revell kit (apart from slight body warpage) is superb, easily as good as the 68 Charger, these days i take about six weeks to build a kit, i'm not going to spend that time on a kit i don't think is worth it, "round 2" just churning out badly worn tooling of old, basic kits, AMT need to up their game but i don't think they will.
@@Markycarandbikestuff To many modelers in the US are a little snobby about AMT!I donnt know what they see in AMT!If AMT would churn out old Kits that are not available from other manufactureres,yeah then!But the prices for their 60 year old kits that they repop every 6 years are....fascinating!I have to pay 35-45 euro for an AMT Kit in Germany!For the Revell kit i have to pay 27!At Völlkner!
Yes, it is tough. Round2 Has been a better owner than RC2 was. Even though they have some really worn tooling. They have been fixing kits a little here and there. Even this 71 Mach 1 has a new nose and wheels. It is a more accurate front compared to what was in the older Boss 351 kit they inherited. Granted it's hard to say if the money they spent to fix it paid off. But I often wondered if all these and studdle changes have paved the way for the more aggressive retooling that they have done recently!
@@TheMuscleCarModeler Lets hope that RC2 starts repopping more really old kits with modernized toolings like the Coronet or the Olds!Or really new kits like the new Charger and Bronco!But as we all know in Europe and Asia they have to fix the prices here!but the worst example is JR Salvino kits here in EU!You have to pay a whopping 65 Euro without p+p for a NASCAR kit like the Camaro or the Camry!
Excellent review. I was hoping to see this one. As always, you never disappoint with the depth of your knowledge on the cars and kits.👍👍
Much appreciated! Thanks!
Thanks for the history/review, totally justified waiting for the Revell kit. Also looking forward to the '73 tooling so I can do my first car as an 18 year old kid 40 years ago.
You and me both! I’m not a fan of the first Eleanor but since I have done a few of the later one. I do plan to build the first one.
Nice overview of these kits. Interesting that the AMT 71 and 007 kits were based on the MPC tooling. That makes sense because, of the two, MPC's kit was superior. AMT's original tooling made it's last appearance as the Warren Tope Trans Am race car in around 2014. Revell really hit a home run with their release. Like you said, the way the parts are grouped on the sprues hints at several different versions to come. In addition to the Bond version shown, there will be a version of the original 73 Eleanor from the first "Gone in 60 Seconds" movie. From what I've seen, this will likely be a 2 in 1 which will also build a stock 73 Mach I. It also appears that we'll be getting a 71 429 Cobra Jet Mach I sometime in the future.
Thank you! I’m looking forward to the variants of this kit!
Nice comparison video. The new Revell kit looks sweet.
Thanks!
Awesome video as usual Raoul … thanks for posting it, and have a great weekend.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!
Good review, lots of great info. I just received the Revell Boss 351 kit, and look forward to building it. I've done the AMT kit in the yellow box art awhile ago. I'm not expert enough on Mustangs to know the minor differences between various models, like Boss vs. Mach 1, but this video cleared some of that up. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Enjoy it!
This mpc was my first glue kit as a beginner modeler n it dam near ended my interest in building. I know it's not fair considering the age but I really wish round 2 would be a little more realistic as to what the builder is getting as far as age of molds. Call them classics call them advanced call them vintage call them whatever let's a parent or teenage beginner know that this kit is over 40 years old and literally been used hundreds of thousands of times. N I get the arguments from all the old school builders like better this than nothing and know what ur buying but as a beginner you don't know anything other than what is on the box. I learned alot through this build which I guess is the point but there is a fine line between testing skills and so frustrated you consider just putting it back in the box and finding another hobby before you even get into how awesome this hobby really is. Thanks for the video LOVE the history of these kits!
Thank you! Yes this is a frustrating part of the hobby. Most new to the hobby don’t have a club or mentor to go to. Just jumping in and not knowing anything. Don’t get me started on the skill levels on the box. They are based on parts count and have nothing to do with the amount of fitting and actual difficulty.
It seems like the AMT and MPC versions leave a lot to be desired. Just looking at the AMT and MPC kits, it looks like the yellow one is the better kit to build. The Revell kit seems to really go above and beyond the AMT and MPC versions, but the Revell is a modern kit using modern technology in its design. I really don’t like this generation of Mustang, but I think I want to get the Revell kit. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you. Yes lots of difference in the quality of the kits but the times and technology were different.
I’ve got the rerelease of the number 31 road race car from AMT. I plan on making the race version of it. It has all the parts to make a street version, but after seeing how much better the Revell street version looks, I plan on getting that to make a stock version. Thanks for the review! 👍
Looks like a great kit and I’m just playing with it right now and looks great!
I love the video comparison Raoul ❤
Thanks!
Very nice comparisons on these kits. I've never been a huge Mustang guy, and more so the earlier ones for what I do have but all the chatter about how nice the new Revell one is, I've been looking at these others as well.
Thank you! It is a nice kit!
despite the challenging builds, they still look great Raoul. I picked up 2 of the new Revell kits and am excited to build them as the level of detail looks great! Looking forward to what you will do with them.
Have fun! I started pre assembly one one and the replacement second one should be shipping any time now.
Great review Raoul! I had always assumed AMT and MPC had their own kits of the 71 Mustang, but they look suspiciously similar. Scalemates says both companies had new tools in 1971. Scalemates diagram for these years Mustangs is very confusing though.
Thanks! 👍You never know with AMT and MPC. Some are the same and some are not. AMT and MPC both had 71 Chevelles and they are different. Same thing with a 70 Camaro. The MPC 71 Chevelle vanished and the AMT became the 72 that has been rereleased many times but not in the last 10 years. Camaro was a different story as both tools were retooled into other versions and still live on. Although the 67 Barracuda was an AMT kit and retooled into a 68 Barracuda but was an MPC kit after that but same tooling.
Great Video!!! Nice insight to all the kits. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Great review, great comparison
Thanks!
Perfection work❤❤❤
Thanks a lot 😊
Awesome review Raoul. Ron
Thank you!
Very interesting comparison. Your knowledge of both kits and cars is incredibly deep. With the Revell kit on the market now I bet sales for the others will tail off.
Thanks! With this kit and the pricing of both manufacturers. Even getting the AMT ones at Hobby Lobby at 40% off. The Revell kit is still a better buy!
@@TheMuscleCarModelerThat's about the only way I buy new models
Great video Raoul!
It's funny how I used to HATE this body style of the Mustang, loved it all the way up to the '70, then the '71 and onwards....🤢🤮
Now, these days, I must admit that I like it and I need to get a Revell one and build a black one....old age (54) I imagine! 😉😆😂
Keep 'em builds and videos coming my friend! 🤜🏻🤛🏻🍻
I was the same as you. In High School. I loved the 65-70 Mustangs only. Didn’t appreciate the later ones till later.
As the old saying goes With age comes wisdom
At 66, I have always preferred the earlier Mustangs, though the 71-73 is alright. Just seems heavy and bloated compared to the earlier body styles. Just got this kit, so I am anxious to build it. But I'm waiting to watch Raoul's build videos. A good way to get a heads-up on any potential problems, and see his tricks and tips! 😊
Thank you for the review. I'm actually building the bond issue, but as a dirt track stock car. I'll be kitbashing the rollbars and some of the chassis. The extra axle holes are are not drilled, but the material is still there to accomplish that. I really liked your review, and if I decide to build a stock version, I'll be doing so with the Revell version.
Thanks. Enjoy building it. They can still be built and come out nice.
I picked up a couple of Revells recently. Going to combine one with a Revell 69 Boss 302 for a tribute to the 1971 Boss 302 prototype. I haven’t compared the engines for either so I don’t know what was carried over yet. I started a 78 AMT Bronco kit. The engine is pretty close to the actual 351M/400 that would have been under the hood right down to the 2V carb.
Sounds like a fun project!
In sae magazine had a issue entirely dedicated to the mustang that had a nice mpc mustang featured in their mag in 1990
Cool. I probably read it back then, but I don't have the older issues now. I pretty much have 2000 and newer till it stopped.
@TheMuscleCarModeler sae # 65 February 1990.
All mustang issue .
It was the first sae magazine I ever saw and hooked me on model cars. I am trying to complete my sae collection but still missing many .I would say I have at least 80% of the series
The earliest I have is # 3
I really miss sae.
When it was canceled I felt like I lost a friend
Such history in those mags
I think I even saw a kit by Luka c from 1988 in the readers rides section
It's good that one of us knows what the go is. 🤔
I’m not sure what you mean?
The hood on the AMT (MPC tooling) Mustang is incorrect. There was never vents at the windshield of the 1971-73 Mustang hood with NACA scoops. That's the most glaring error of these kits. Flat hoods had them, The Revell kit looks really nice
Thanks. I never really noticed that but most of hoods are blacked out and it is not that noticeable.
I own a real 72 Mach1 and those vents in the hood and the lack of a Cleveland engine much less a Boss one is why this kit is TERRIBLY inaccurate including the wrong exhaust and front bumper. R2 knew they would get hammered of they “redid” the MPC Boss kit so they updated it back to the 72 molds with a lot of irrelevant parts from previous 69-73 kits. Buy the REVELL kits.
Interesting back story, I had no idea the kit makers passed off parts from other model years on hobbyists and still called it a stock kit for the labeled model year on box!
Could you do a quick dry fit, to show us if the wheels do/don't align to the wheel openings on the yellow AMT kit? (maybe AMT made a corresponding adjustment while relocating the 3 holes)
Hobby Lobby has the yellow kit right now, and I'm not finding the Revell kit at my local independent hobby store at the moment. (it appears Revell has a distribution issue in the US)
I wouldn't mind a practice run using the AMT kit, using a different color combo I like, but I don't even want to start one if the wheels won't line up.
Thanks. This is why test fitting is always a good idea. Some surprises turn up along the way. I don’t have any plans of starting that kit anytime soon. I’m currently playing with many kits right now.
Great review as always. Seems Round 2 is going the way the big 3 did a while back and getting collectors tired of just the same ol releases, nothing new and refreshing. They might wanna consider putting out some modern cars for the current generations of hobby builders to get their hooks into, otherwise it's gonna stagnate again.
Thanks! Round 2 has been expanding. They just shown the third version of the 2021 Charger and this time a Hellcat Widebody. Plus another version of the new Ford Bronco. Plus another kit like the 71 Demon that has not been seen since the original release. This time a 64 Chevelle SS!
Hi where did you get the rims for the red Mustang I love those slide rims what kit did you get them out of thanks I love watching your videos keep up the good work.
I really don’t remember. I just looked in my parts stash and found them. Had them so long that I couldn’t say. I’m sure they were extras from an AMT kit.
Thx! What color are you planning on for Revell kit?
The Boss 351s, I did one in Acapulco Blue with silver stripes and another in Grabber Yellow with black stripes. Check them out here: czcams.com/video/mAAmmhkgxOQ/video.html
You might find the ‘damage’ to parts such as the chassis was like that when it left Revell.
I’ve spoken to other buyers with warped bodies on their Revell Mustang.
Maybe but my other kits seems fine. I started pre assembling it.
@@TheMuscleCarModeler maybe it’s just the European market version in that case.
Great comparison! I guess it is unfair to compare the Revell to the older AMT/MPS kits. But the inaccuracies of the older kits make me not even want to build them. Maybe I'll attempt to do them later. Anyways Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! Sometimes it best not to know and just enjoy building it.
Man do they look fire. I love that orange one. Where did You source the rims for it?
Thank you! They were in my parts box, and I don't remember what kit they were in.
Does anyone have a link to that extra front end pieces?? I have the AMT with the yellow Mach 1 on the cover but piece #71 is missing from it. If anyone can provide the to the missing link front end kit upgrade PLEASE.
The resin parts I shown are from Missing Link resin and he does not offer them anymore.
So...where does (or does it?) the AMT 1973 Warren Tope Road Racing Mustang fit into this mix? I have a R2 2014 release in the pile (built an original back in the mid-70's) and it seems to share similarities, but is distinctly different than the ones you're showing here. Example, it only has the small block engine, but the chrome tree has the Boss 429 valve covers, the ribbed injection manifold and all eight injection trumpets. The roll cage is COMPLETELY different trom the Nascar-looking cage (even partial) you show in your kits. The chassis in my repop is clearly different, it doesn't have the three axle holes. Thanks...great video!
That tool is different from the MPC kit I featured here. I have never had one but the AMT 73 kit started out as a 71 issue and has always been a race car. It could not be built stock. Both AMT and MPC were separate company’s until ERTL bought them in the 80’s combining them into one company. Both kits get confused now as some of the 73 kits were issued with box art that made it look like a stock version but it is not. Not to mention that the MPC kit was also a 73 version at one time then backdated some to a 71. That is why it has some 73 style parts in it but they are MPC, not AMT.
@@TheMuscleCarModeler I'm not sure how much cross-work there was in the early 70's, but MPC and AMT shared a VERY close working relationship from the start up of MPC in the early 60's.. That chrome tree with the Boss valve covers and injection manifold and tubes is kind of a big pointer. The chassis is CLEARLY different, perhaps a result of coming "back" at it from the '73 model.
Nice 😅
Thanks 😅
I think the reason that Ford didn’t offer them was that the rear window was 14* off horizontal
Possibly.
Going back to one of the first comments, the hoods are all wrong on all the kits except the Boss 351. There are no cowl vents on the hoods of '71-'73 Mustangs.
That is correct.
As a Ford die hard Autobody guy .. the AMT/MPC kits are a huge disappointment . The underhood is so disgraceful I’d just glue the hood shut !
The two engines offered are a small block resembling a 289 and then the boss 429 ... neither kits were available in the 1971-73 model years ... therefore the kits can NEVER be built STOCK !
This new Revell kit will make those kits obsolete
AMT/MPC and the current Round2 offerings need to start telling the truth in advertising or be held accountable
And the hood is incorrect ... the hood has the vents at the windshield/cowl area is NOT on the real car
It's funny but they have to know. The You Tube videos they put out every month, they drive up to the office in a Grabber Blue 71 Mach1!
I was hoping that not only does Revell have a new tooling with detail for the '71-'73 Mustang but a '73 coming out to make the original "Gone In 60 Seconds" Eleanor complete with standard hood. I just hope it has accurate Eleanor wheels. Those reissued ones that are supposed to have them, don't. They're not even worth using because they're so ugly.
Time will tell on Revell. They did show a flat hood and 73 grill on Facebook!
@@TheMuscleCarModeler I'm just so thrilled someone finally made one with such detail. I hope to start back up building models again before I'm too old to do it anymore. I grew up during that era and loved so many cars, that mustang is a big one. I used to find great research material back in the 80's and now it's impossible. Miss all them days.
Research material is getting more difficult. Web site's I used to visit are gone. Some registries online are private, other sites and magazine content are subscription based. Back to checking out books at the public library and my huge magazine stash. Forums are still decent but not always great info.
@@TheMuscleCarModeler As well as commenters that are my age and are knowledgeable in the era's cars. I still can remember most of what I'd found. Learned a little more lately. Not young anymore at 63. I sure missed out in the fun of building what I'd seen when I was a teen in the '70's. Love to try to salvage what's left and with such awesomely detailed ones now it'll be even more so.