I tried this for the first time a few years ago, and it works great provided you cut the foil very close to the emblems so the foil edge doesn't show through paint, and you keep you paint very thin so the words don't get filled in.
I've used a similar technique but with differing paint types. Painting over an enamel chrome/metal basecoat with an acrylic topcoat, then using a swab & 91% alcohol to rub away the acrylic paint layer. The alcohol won't affect the enamel. Works really great for engine valve covers with fine script or lines giving a brushed metal look 👍
Thanks for watching, Mike. I think it's a good technique especially when your eyes aren't as good as when you were young and the hands aren't as steady.
Cool, I've never done that but knew the process. Looks like it works pretty good. I was always afraid of removing paint around the letters rather than just the letters, guess you have to really take your time.
Nice little tutorial. I’ve been considering trying this technique since I read about it awhile ago. Sure is great to see it done and get an idea on how it works. Thanks
Come on man, you can use my name... Yes I was one of the people. This old lug head just could not see what the comment's was saying. Thanks Rob for taking the time to help this lug head and the video! 😁 Now that I think about it you did have primer on the 55 hood when you showed the hood on the live video the other day... 🤔 Your my hero! 🦸 LLAP 🖖
Yea same here! Thats sweet for your first time on the 55 lol!! Oh yea man that would have been cool but the Marlin is killer !!!! @@timemachinesscalemodels
I use the same method but i let the paint dry then take a white t-shirt Polish over the emblems the heat will burn off the paint leave a nice clean chrome polished look
Great tutorial brother! I’ve only tried a similar method once, used light sand paper to knock the paint of then cleared everything, was scary haha. Great job
Bare metal foil's good too for doing taillights to give them a more reflective look. Also good for doing the park lights and turn signals. Work the foil in place then use clear paints or markers for the color. Aluminum tape can be used too but not as thin as the BMF.
Not if you burnish it down. The primer coats usually do a good enough job to hide the edges. On this demonstration I just sprayed the color coats over it and it hid the edges. You still want to trim it close though.
I do not use thinner of any type that could mess up my paint. I start out with 1500 paper until the paint on the letters is almost gone, then I go up to 2000 grit to kinda polish them.
Great Technique👍🏻, I thought about it but I was afraid of the edges of the BMF and the primer showing. If you prime it, white for example, will it shows around the letters? I'm just finishing this Ford Fairlane AMT by the way, I used a gel silver pen to paint the scripts, it looks okay, on Wimbledon white it doesn't show much. I use a similar technique for dash-boards dials or planes instrument board when they are engraved, white primer, white lacquer, black enamel. when the enamel is dry to the touch, I use the paper stick of a Q-tip that I cut at a steep angle to get an accurate pointy tip, dip it in mineral spirits, wipe it and remove the black paint from the raised numbers and details, the mineral spirits won't affect the lacquer, it can be corrected, if messed-up, by touching-up the black and redo the area, way better than trying to paint or dry-brush the tiny white details.. I hope it can be of interest for someone. Good continuation and thank you for sharing.👋🏻
I'm sure if you used white you would have fine results. I would imagine if you are painting a body white you also would use white primer? Now you've aroused my curiosity. I'll have to try this with white paint.
It's hidden pretty well. You will still want to trim the BMF as close as you can, leaving little excess. The primer seems to cover it for the most part. By the time you spray your color coats any remaining edge is completely blended in.
Thank you so much for this video. It is fantastic and makes it seem so easy compared to what it I thought. I'm curious though, would you recommend putting the foil down before you prime or anything or would you do a primer coat first then foil then final paint job?
I ask stupid questions, sometimes a lot. You mentioned using lacquer thinner to go over the script. Did you use lacquer paint as your demonstration paint? Or will this also work for enamel paint? If I use enamel paint, can alcohol be used to get the same effect? I’m stupid and since I’m retired now I’m getting back into model car building. So pleas don’t judge too harshly.
The lacquer thinner will work on enamel as well. I've never tried using alcohol in this way, but I do know 91% isopropyl will remove paint if you soak it in it.
I've done it both ways. This paint was tacked up, but I have done it on paint that was sprayed days earlier. Takes a little more elbow grease, but still works.
I still have decent eyes but trying to cut foil this thinly is very hard and just comes out looking butchered. I saw this done on a 60s corvette on the written lettering and it looked great. You could see the paint colour in between the swoops of the lettering. I guess do this within a day of painting?
I would suggest doing it as soon as you can safely touch the body. If you remove the primer from the scripts after priming and then remove the paint after color coats I think it'll be way easier than if you tried after final color coats.
Ok you seid and donaquer thiner but wat tipe I need to see that part a few times. first I am old enghish is my second language'and don''t hear well. God bless and thanks for the tutorial.
Trim it as close as possible to the logo or trim and then burnish it really good to get the edges flat. Then your primer should hide what's left, plus the base coat over that. Try it out on a paint dummy.
I certainly wouldn't be getting the excess lacquer thinner off the cotton bud with my bear fingers, it takes 30 seconds for any liquid chemical to go from your skin to your liver.
Hey, thanks for your comment. Let's address it. First, ordinarily you'd do this on BARE plastic before primer and your primer general covers any remaining edges that may show. If not, your color coats will. Second, you still need to trim as closely as possible. Third, this was done in haste for demonstration purposes....and I explained that. Fourth and final, better modelers that have won pretty large contests and been featured in magazines use this technique and you'd never know it unless they told you. But thanks for leaving your comment.
I tried this for the first time a few years ago, and it works great provided you cut the foil very close to the emblems so the foil edge doesn't show through paint, and you keep you paint very thin so the words don't get filled in.
Yes, you have to cut it close enough. I think it's a great technique. Beats struggling to foil those scripts over a finished paint job.
@timemachinesscalemodels is the q-tip an lacquer thinner the same way y'all fix bleed through spots of a mask line ?
This actually looks pretty good! A technique I might have to try as the old eyes can't cut each letter out! Thanks for posting!
My eyes and hands aren't as steady these days either. This works!
I've used a similar technique but with differing paint types. Painting over an enamel chrome/metal basecoat with an acrylic topcoat, then using a swab & 91% alcohol to rub away the acrylic paint layer. The alcohol won't affect the enamel. Works really great for engine valve covers with fine script or lines giving a brushed metal look 👍
Yes, I've used this as well. Great technique too!
What do you mean by chrome metal undercoat?
Great video Rob. Your right, not many people know about this technique. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching, Mike. I think it's a good technique especially when your eyes aren't as good as when you were young and the hands aren't as steady.
Great video Rob thanks for sharing 👍🏻 👍🏻
Thank you. I hope it helps those that asked and those who've wondered.
Awesome Rob! That is nice when you can actually see what you were talking about. I understood what you meant though. Nice tip.
Thanks, Larry. I hope this comes in handy sometime.
Cool, I've never done that but knew the process. Looks like it works pretty good. I was always afraid of removing paint around the letters rather than just the letters, guess you have to really take your time.
Yes, you have to take your time for sure. It works pretty well.
I have never seen this technique before. I am going to have to try this. Thanks for sharing
You are so welcome! Glad I could pass on some new techniques for you.
Nice. Thanks for sharing 😊
Thanks for watching
Nice little tutorial. I’ve been considering trying this technique since I read about it awhile ago. Sure is great to see it done and get an idea on how it works. Thanks
Thanks. Give it a shot!
@@timemachinesscalemodels I think I’m going to try it right now on some finned 1931 Cadillac V16 valve covers.
great tutorial Manny, well done
Thanks. I'm Rob, BTW. 😉
Nice tutorial. I have heard about this technique, but have never seen it until now. This is something I will definitely try soon. Thanks for sharing.
Hopefully I've been of assistance. Thanks for watching, Michael.
Great idea !
Very cool Rob. I had heard of this but never seen it done. Thanks, Ron
You're welcome, Ron. It's a pretty cool technique.
Great technique! Thanks for sharing
Thank you.
Come on man, you can use my name... Yes I was one of the people. This old lug head just could not see what the comment's was saying. Thanks Rob for taking the time to help this lug head and the video! 😁
Now that I think about it you did have primer on the 55 hood when you showed the hood on the live video the other day... 🤔
Your my hero! 🦸
LLAP 🖖
You're welcome. I enjoyed doing it. Yep, the '55 was primed.
Very cool tutorial Rob thanks for sharing.
You're welcome, Phil.
Awesome tutorial Rob ❤
Thanks, brother. I hope someone can use it. A few people asked so I wanted to give them a visual aid.
My eyesight is getting so bad i might not even know if i mess up! LMAO
I can believe it! My eyes aren't as sharp as they once were either.
@@timemachinesscalemodels my latest builds have been painted with water based paints. Have you tried this technique with those?
Pretty cool method. Thanks for sharing.
Mind blownnnn😮
1st time I've seen this technique. Thanks so much for sharing!
Try it out. See how you like it.
Dude, that is an awesome tip! I will definitely have to try that. Just not with mine. Got one of the no stick bad batches😬
Yeah there was a lot of that going around.
Thanks for the video. I will try it.
Awesome! I think you'll like the results.
Great video. Thanks!
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Excellent technique, thank you for sharing.
Thank you for watching.
Great tip Rob will be trying this in my next build 👍👍
It's a cleaner way to do it. That's for sure. Thanks, Seamus.
Outstanding job thanks for sharing!!!
Thank you and thanks for watching.
It's a very cool tutorial.
Thanks.
Awesome Rob! Ive seen that done, ive never tried it and now im going to (test body first lol) looks awesome! Looks awesome on your 55 Ford you did!
I've heard of it being done and seen the end results before. I just never tried it until the F-100. I wish I would have done it on the Marlin build.
Yea same here! Thats sweet for your first time on the 55 lol!! Oh yea man that would have been cool but the Marlin is killer !!!! @@timemachinesscalemodels
Cool tip Rob.
Thanks, Justin.
S great technique to keep in my tool box! Thanks Rob 😎👍
Thanks, Mike.
Cool trick brother 👍🏻
Thanks. It works pretty well.
Great tip sir. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, Mike.
Great video.
Thank you, Nathan.
Great tutorial, brother 😁✌️
Thanks, brother.
I use the same method but i let the paint dry then take a white t-shirt Polish over the emblems the heat will burn off the paint leave a nice clean chrome polished look
Oh wow! That's a cool tip. I'll have to try that. Thank you.
Dude!! That is a great tutorial..
Im goanna try it next time.
It's pretty cool. Let us know how it works out.
Great idea
Great tutorial brother! I’ve only tried a similar method once, used light sand paper to knock the paint of then cleared everything, was scary haha. Great job
Thanks, Paul. I'd be nervous with sandpaper too!
@@timemachinesscalemodels both ways make me nervous brother but it looks good if it comes out
Thanx for the tip.
You bet, Maurel. Thanks for watching!
Nice trick, I'll definitely try that one day 😎👍
Yeah it works pretty good. Especially when our eyes aren't as keen and our hands aren't as steady as they once were.
Great tip 😊🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks, Rick.
Interesting technique. Might have to give it a try. Eyesight is failing me ever faster.
You can do it! It's definitely easier than trying to do it after painting. Look better than trying to dry brush silver paint on them too.
Bare metal foil's good too for doing taillights to give them a more reflective look. Also good for doing the park lights and turn signals. Work the foil in place then use clear paints or markers for the color. Aluminum tape can be used too but not as thin as the BMF.
I've used this technique. GREAT TIP!!
thx 4 the tutorial... vinny
Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much.
You are welcome.
Very cool.
Thanks, Mike.
Thank you!
You're welcome.
Great tip! Now does the edge of the BMF where you cut the line show in the paint? Thanks for sharing.
Not if you burnish it down. The primer coats usually do a good enough job to hide the edges. On this demonstration I just sprayed the color coats over it and it hid the edges. You still want to trim it close though.
I do not use thinner of any type that could mess up my paint. I start out with 1500 paper until the paint on the letters is almost gone, then I go up to 2000 grit to kinda polish them.
Nice plan.
I was always curious on how this was done🤔 Now I know! Thanks for educating an old fart😅 You rock brother
Glad it helped you, Dan. Thanks for watching.
Great Technique👍🏻, I thought about it but I was afraid of the edges of the BMF and the primer showing. If you prime it, white for example, will it shows around the letters?
I'm just finishing this Ford Fairlane AMT by the way, I used a gel silver pen to paint the scripts, it looks okay, on Wimbledon white it doesn't show much.
I use a similar technique for dash-boards dials or planes instrument board when they are engraved, white primer, white lacquer, black enamel. when the enamel is dry to the touch, I use the paper stick of a Q-tip that I cut at a steep angle to get an accurate pointy tip, dip it in mineral spirits, wipe it and remove the black paint from the raised numbers and details, the mineral spirits won't affect the lacquer, it can be corrected, if messed-up, by touching-up the black and redo the area, way better than trying to paint or dry-brush the tiny white details.. I hope it can be of interest for someone. Good continuation and thank you for sharing.👋🏻
I'm sure if you used white you would have fine results. I would imagine if you are painting a body white you also would use white primer? Now you've aroused my curiosity. I'll have to try this with white paint.
This technique works on chrome trim around the windows and bodyside molding too.
I know, but to be honest that's probably more than I'd like to work with under paint.
Nice
Thanks Rob! How well is the BMF hidden under the paint? Does the paint really cover the edges of the BMF strip underneath? Thanks 👍
It's hidden pretty well. You will still want to trim the BMF as close as you can, leaving little excess. The primer seems to cover it for the most part. By the time you spray your color coats any remaining edge is completely blended in.
That's a great technique👍 what about clear coating over afterwards with a clear like Mr Color gloss?
T.Y
There's no problem clear coating over it. BMF takes a clear coat pretty well.
I meant to say model kits
Thank you so much for this video. It is fantastic and makes it seem so easy compared to what it I thought. I'm curious though, would you recommend putting the foil down before you prime or anything or would you do a primer coat first then foil then final paint job?
Yes, I recommend putting the foil down on bare styrene before priming. Your coats of primer should hide any remaining edge from the foil.
And thank you for the kind words. I appreciate that very much.
I ask stupid questions, sometimes a lot. You mentioned using lacquer thinner to go over the script. Did you use lacquer paint as your demonstration paint? Or will this also work for enamel paint? If I use enamel paint, can alcohol be used to get the same effect? I’m stupid and since I’m retired now I’m getting back into model car building. So pleas don’t judge too harshly.
The lacquer thinner will work on enamel as well. I've never tried using alcohol in this way, but I do know 91% isopropyl will remove paint if you soak it in it.
seen somebody dothe trick merely describing the technique thanks for showing us 😁🤩scooter d😎ps what was the dry time on the paint 🤔
This was done pretty quick so maybe 30 minutes dry time. I did 2 coats about 5 minutes apart and then let them set 30 mins before continuing to film.
thanks 😅@@timemachinesscalemodels
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Is the paint fully cured before you use the dampened ( in thinner) Q tip is used?
Thank you for sharing!
I've done it both ways. This paint was tacked up, but I have done it on paint that was sprayed days earlier. Takes a little more elbow grease, but still works.
What do you use to remove the adhesive residue from the BMF?
I've never really had that issue where the BMF leaves residue, but I'd imagine some isopropyl alcohol on a Q-tip would take it off.
How long do you wait after you paint it? Hours? Minutes? Days? Does the paint have to be fresh?
I've done it minutes after and I've done it after paint has dried for a few days.
I still have decent eyes but trying to cut foil this thinly is very hard and just comes out looking butchered. I saw this done on a 60s corvette on the written lettering and it looked great. You could see the paint colour in between the swoops of the lettering. I guess do this within a day of painting?
I would suggest doing it as soon as you can safely touch the body. If you remove the primer from the scripts after priming and then remove the paint after color coats I think it'll be way easier than if you tried after final color coats.
@@timemachinesscalemodels That makes sense, don't let it build up and dry.
Ok you seid and donaquer thiner but wat tipe I need to see that part a few times. first I am old enghish is my second language'and don''t hear well. God bless and thanks for the tutorial.
I'm just using a regular, cheap lacquer thinner. The one I use is Kleen Strip.
fad tin can that work for die cast as well !?shared liked loved
I would imagine it would.
Nice 😅
Thank you. It's a pretty neat lil trick I think..
Doesn't the untrimmed edge of the bmf show as a faint outline under the paint?
Trim it as close as possible to the logo or trim and then burnish it really good to get the edges flat. Then your primer should hide what's left, plus the base coat over that. Try it out on a paint dummy.
Exactly this. Thank you. That was going to be my reply.
I certainly wouldn't be getting the excess lacquer thinner off the cotton bud with my bear fingers, it takes 30 seconds for any liquid chemical to go from your skin to your liver.
Sorry but I cut hear do you seid thiner for removing the paint from the emblems I apreciate you anwer God bless.
Yes, sir just regular lacquer thinner.
Thanks for anwer God bless.@@timemachinesscalemodels
Would u apply it under primer?
T.Y
Yes
Can I commission you to build some plastic bottle kits for me
We can discuss it.
Looks like scrip with a box around it! FAIL.
Hey, thanks for your comment. Let's address it. First, ordinarily you'd do this on BARE plastic before primer and your primer general covers any remaining edges that may show. If not, your color coats will. Second, you still need to trim as closely as possible. Third, this was done in haste for demonstration purposes....and I explained that. Fourth and final, better modelers that have won pretty large contests and been featured in magazines use this technique and you'd never know it unless they told you. But thanks for leaving your comment.
Great tutorial on this Rob
Thanks, Jeff.