Snow White - Redemption Or Deflection?
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- In a recent actor-on-actor interview with Halle Bailey for Variety, Rachel Zegler spoke about her role as Snow White, how much she respected the character and the backlash she's faced. Quite the difference from her attitude a few months ago. Almost like this whole thing was desperate damage control from Disney.
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Ever met a narcissist who admitted they were wrong? No, neither have I. So deflection it is.
The fact that she has a PR Rep to clean up her mess is all the proof we need.
Whatever it takes -Disney probably
Or a "woman in power" who wasn't also a victim
I see what ya did there.
Sometimes they do admit they were wrong though, but not because they're actually sorry or understanding what they did wrong, but because they can use a fake apology or a fake admission of guilt to keep manipulating the people around them.
The fact that the internet backlash was so bad that they’re changing course at all is a testament to how bad Disney screwed up.
+1
Too bad they didn’t change course on anything we actually cared about. 😒
I love how a strong, independent and outspoken woman was told to change her whole personality and opinions by the corporate men at Disney and she immediately obliged
And how desperate they are for the movie to do well.
bahahahahahaha @@tomround8271
Bailey had the smartest possible response to the controversy she found herself in: say nothing and do your job.
Bailey enjoyed being the Little Mermaid and liked the cartoon. The only response would have been to people criticizing her race, other than that she had no reason to dump on the cartoon or her costars.
Oh no she talked alright.
She said that she liked hers better and that she supported the wokeness of her movie and blamed any reasonable and correct thing said about her movie and the fact that she’s black when knowing that Ariel isn’t black
@superduperfanman2761 🙄 she never said she supported the "wokeness" of the movie, she said she loved the plot of the film. She only ever critized people who dumped on her for being black...which was true, there were and are plenty of people who made derogatory remarks about her race.
@@deborahminter6231 she did u clearly didn’t watch the interview I’m talking about but whatever ik what I’m talking about and she took the role knowing she don’t look a damn thing like Ariel
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain
Zegler is a prime example.
Kristen Stewart is twice the Snow White then Ziegler will ever be
""It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it." - Warren Buffet
@@Rcampo42And she's a horrible actress with all the charisma of a dog turd, so that's saying something.
Not only was Zegler coached and told what to say, notice how the makeup she's wearing has softened her features a bit more, to say nothing of lightening her skin tone a lot, and her hair is much darker, longer, more feminine. Combined with the dark dress, it emphasizes her lighter skin tone even more. It's as if Disney is trying to go, "See, she looks just like Snow White. Those bigots are just crazy."
Great point didn't catch that
I wouldn't have noticed that
Her hose are jarring; they're the color snow white is supposed to be.
lol It’s crazy but not really when you think about how much money is involved. Disney is essentially doing what attorneys do everyday. Lol Aka we wanna win the case (profitable movie) so we’ll change everything about her for it. I can understand her being coached to show the original movie respect but them purposely making her look white is hilarious. Looks like she folded like a lawn chair.
I noticed her complexion was much lighter as well but that was never really the issue for me. Hell, the make up and fx people could turn her into an albino if they really wanted to, but they've missed the whole point of people's antipathy towards her. No, the problem was a matter of personality and no amount of make up can disguise arrogance.
It's a shame, she's genuinely very pretty and could probably have made for a convincing Snow White, but she's blown it really.
Gal Gadot’s greatest acting performance is keeping that million dollar smile with zero flinch while seeing Zegler completely sabotaging her movie
That was funny. But you know, Hollywood is filled with narcissistic pimps, thieves and sharks willing to push their mothers off a cliff for some fame. Every emotion holds little weight when they speak to the public and who knows what they truly feel. It seems like there are very few decent people in that cess pool, but it its fun to watch the car crash that is Hollywood.
Can actually see the WTF in that smile while rachel rambles on
Gal Gadot looks like she just smoked a joint and is looking at the giant cheeseburger that is Rachel Zegler's head.
bwaahaahaaaaa
@@metalslinger
She was definitely just in it for the money and the bullshit SJW crap. She honestly didn't care if the movie flops.
The one line of Zeigler's that always stuck out to me most was "she's not going to be looking for true love",
because man how perfectly does that contrast Disney's absolute nihilism of today versus the Disney of the past.
Akin to "you will own nothing and you'll be happy", this is "you'll believe in nothing and you'll be happy".
O Brave New World, I need some more soma...
Haha damn, well said my friend!
Nice touch with a classic sci-fi novel, excellent!
Is that the quote from the UN 2030 agenda
@@NightVisionz457 Yes,
well the exact quote was showing young people saying that in first person, "It's 2030, I own nothing and I am happy."
No one is going to believe that Rachel did a 180 in attitude, tone, body language and overall thoughts on Snow White or of her own person in a few months. People will believe it was just enough time to coach her, arrange this 'interview', and hope that the audience is either gullible or have the memory of a goldfish.
Maybe in a few years it will be believable that she's changed as a person and can have a second chance, but not now.
“Hope”. People will fall for this
At most people will believe that she started to think more about her actual role... But thinking doesn't mean much if there's no reflection behind.
What I'm seeing is just another story of hypocrisy in Hollywood alongside a bit of activist manipulation considering she used to feel represented by Snowhite as a child, and I was kinda seeing this even before the apology attempt... I hate how those movements just ruin normal people into narcissists.
The whole thing was probably scripted and staged.
I think people just are taking more of a liking to Rachel because her performance in the Hunger Games film
I hope she doesn't change. Stick to your guns, girl!
There's nothing wrong with a man saving a woman.
There's nothing wrong with a woman saving a man.
I think the wonderwoman movie did that well.
_Don’t save her. She don’t wanna be saved._
@@dr.wolfstar1765that isn’t the point
There's nothing weak about needing help. Man or woman, we are often stronger together.
She hasn't lost a single atom of narcissism. In her interview she is as genuine and believable as her pony tail.
Damn, you didn't have to destroy what was already in cinders 💀
Yea that's why she won't admit any wrong doing thinks she could slip by without anyone noticing. No accountability means no respectibillity
as real as the space between her eyebrow 🤣🤣
Hahaha!!! 😜 weird 🤪 weird!!!
Don't worry her phone isn't ringing for new roles anymore. Nobody's going to risk it next year.
Zegler was so clearly coached on exactly what to say. Notice how what she's saying doesn't sound even remotely natural now, and how she's clearly pausing to remember what she was told to say. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if her saying it's the reason she and Halle "get to sit there today" is essentially a stern reminder from her employer that essentially means "Don't ever insult our products again. We replaced the dwarves and we can replace you too."
she thought she was some kind of big shot probably.
news flash: I didn't know her before, and I don't care about knowing her now.
@@waltercomunello121Yeah. I guess it's easy to get an inflated ego when you're cast to star in the OG Disney movie, but Disney has dumped and replaced far more famous actors and actresses than her. They had no problem dropping Terrence Howard and Gina Carano, and the former starred in Hustle & Flow and the latter portrayed one of about 5 universally liked characters from Disney Star Wars; they'd have no problem dropping a lady whose best role up until now was a bit part in West Side Story.
Tbh, the only way I would see this movie would be if Disney replaced her.
@@josefkainrad Same, actually. As soon as she attacked the original it was very clear she has no actual respect for the story or its fans.
She refers to the story as being 80 years old, which refers to the original Disney movie, which is based on the story published by the Brothers Grimm in Germany in 1857, which itself is based on a publication in 1812 and the first known origins of the fairytale are in 18th century German states. But it might be much older.
The interpretation of the source material is difficult and full of different layers, while she viewed it solely through the eyes of a shallow Hollywood starlet in 2023. People did not get upset about her casting at all, but her bashing of foreign cultural heritage makes her look clueless and entitled.
Disney turned cultural appropriation into an art form.
Henry Cavill is an example of someone who, even when he's in something that disrespects the source material, earns the love and loyalty of the fans through his own love and respect for the material and its fans.
Should call actors like that a box-office antidote
I find interesting that there’s quite a bit of disdain for people in show business who show some ballsiness and honesty with their opinions instead of people who just ride the line and don’t upset the apple cart and say “yeah this and that is great and has no flaws at all”. I haven’t seen the full interview about what she said about Snow White but was what she said that controversial?
@@jgooner894Yelling that the original fairy tale and one of the most significant cartoons of the history of animation are "wrong and don't belong in this day and age" is wrong, regardless of context.
It is like spilling soup on a precious painting - even what you are trying to achieve is right, you are still wrong and deserve no sympathy.
@@jgooner894 while her outspoken attitude could be praised at times, the problem is that she really doesn't know the time and place for it.
Like, yeah you can criticize Snow White, or dislike Disney Princesses, in fact, many celebrities have said those and they never get many criticism. What ridiculous is the fact that she complain those things when she's supposed to be playing one of them in big screen.
It's like as if a marketing agent from Apple directly said to a customer they currently help how they always hated Apple's product, and that they've been using Samsung their whole life. It's just doesn't make sense, AND disrespect those that actually love the product
Henry, the GREATEST MAN OF ALL TIME.
Put simply, the best acting Rachel has done in her career is on this current “apology” tour. An adult pretender at their finest.
I've heard she was kind of good in the Hunger Games prequel.
She’s even wearing white tights in the interview😂
@@Hcamsdwhat does she mean by that…?
@@Winter-Alpha-Omega I didn't see it, but most of the people with good things to say about her in that movie were talking about her singing. Maybe she should have gone with music instead of acting as a career?
@@baxter1252 Yeah, most probably.
What an awesome actor! Not only she's acting in movies, but also in interviews as well! Such great performance!
Not really, i can see through her acting. We all saw her true colors
Zegler on a world wide apology tour, about as believable as Mark Zuckeberg in Congress saying Facebook never censored anyone ever at any time.
You can tell by her uncomfortable demeanour and change in voice tone, that she absolutely hates having to do this, and comes across completely disingenuous. Just pull the plug Disney, she’s done.
But but sHes a WoMan oF CoLor!!!
You can tell by her Adam's apple it's a man baby! Lol.
It's the Walk of Shame. She might just disappear after this round of "damage control".
Exactly.
She definitely doesn't have a bright future ahead of her in pedowood land. They'll blacklist her after this.
Her clothes, her hair, her body language, her voice's tone and timbre, her words and thoughts, and the response of the other diverse adult pretender are all crafted by design to try and enchant the public to save the movie.
Screw Disney and Screw this movie!
even the lighting and the soft focus is meant to sooth and comfort. its gross
@@uzis.machine-guns liars, basically.
The clothing and styling choices are interesting. It looks like every effort has been made to make Rachel Zegler's skin tone look lighter, including making Halle Bailey's look darker. Zegler's face has been framed with jet black hair (formerly brown), and her clothing is deep black, except for white stockings (which make her legs white). All this makes her skin tone look very light. Further, it may just be the lighting, but even her makeup looks lighter. Conversely, Halle Bailey has her hair well away from her face, a white top, and black boots, which all combine to give the impression of a darker skin tone. Similarly, Zegler is 'dressed up', and Bailey looking casual makes Zegler look even more 'dressy'.
I just finished the video and it's interesting that at 4:20, Halle Bailey, during promotions of her own film, got the same treatment. Black hair around the face, black clothing/top.
Not going see this movie either.
I can’t even fully express how much I want this endeavor to be shelved
Yeah, I would LOVE to see the behind the scenes on this interview 😂
Funny how she went from loud and obnoxious short hair with button up shirts... to quiet and respectable long hair with long dress.
Funny how feminism died when her income was threatened.
Nah mate how tf does her wearing a dress and having long hair make her any less of feminist Jesus
They only care about feminism for profit. They use feminism as a tool to get privileges, they don't care about a cause. Only about individual gains. So at the end feminism is this blackmail tactic used by women to get stuff, not a real movement
It dies whenever life gets real
Actual intelligent comment.
She's totally disingenuous. I don't believe a word of it. She can put her woke BS up her worn out roast beef yeast pit. I won't give Disney a single dollar for any reason, ever.
The 'interview' with the Mermaid actress was such a joke. It was literally a struggle session where they smugly agreed that they were 'better' than those evil racist haters and rejoice in how 'graceful' they were being by not calling out the evil racist haters.
Yeah, HB really is no better than RZ, just less abrasive about her contempt for the story or the fans.
But to the average person who doesn't know the story and is looking at it from afar, they'll see two actresses being 'strong' by calling out online hate speech which automatically absolves them of 95% of any criticism. That's how the game has been played over the last few years, paint yourself as a vulnerable person (obviously helps if you're female, a minority or both), wait for some vague form of hate speech to come your way (I imagine there is likely some vile stuff that has been said about these films which absolutely should be highlighted as wrong), and then run with the idea that all criticism is therefore coming from a place of hate and run off various '-ist'/'-ism' words to garner sympathy for yourself from those who just want to watch a Disney movie with their kids
Two actors of race swapped Disney princesses sitting down to huff copium together
There were moments when Fake Ariel couldn't keep a straight face. There were a few moments when Ziegler was talking that she just about rolled her eyeswhile smirking. It was pretty bad acting from both of 'em.
The 'interview' was the equivalent of watching two men sucking each other off, but somehow being more cringey and off-putting.
Did you notice that in the interview they took care to make her look more like the role? Her hair had been brown and shoulder-length, now it's longer and completely black. Her eyebrows were less thick, her foundation makeup was whiter and she even wore white tights!
But she still couldn't avoid opening that huge mouth. (No, I'm not speaking metaphorically. I mean her actual mouth). Because in the past two decades, Disney heroines (I'm talking of cartoon ones) all have huge mouths, for some reason. Julia Roberts style. Angular features, prominent jaws and big mouths historically wasn't considered pretty at all, women had to have big eyes, oval faces and a dainty mouth. That's why all those princesses are so jarring. And their real-life counterparts seem to follow the same aesthetics. By the way the other Snow White too is not completely suitable in my opinion. (For one thing, she's too old, secondly has an angular, modern face, and a stubborn look, not the dreamy smooth face of a fairytale princess)
Totally agreed with this. Halle is naturally charming and likeable. People had a problem with her casting but not her as a person.
Compared to this self entitled nobody who thinks she's a star now just because she landed the role of an iconic and beloved character.
This sudden change of tune on her is literally fake. You can tell that just a damage control.
The thing is, Snow White is an evergreen story. It's not dated because- surprise!- women still fall in love (we always have) and we often still take on domestic roles (we always have and never stopped). Snow White is treated with the utmost reverence by the seven dwarves and she basically takes over and transforms an unsettled household into a home. If Disney wanted to "modernize" Snow White, they could simply develop Snow and the prince more thoroughly and actually add the process of them falling in love. Maybe the prince saves her due to competence (because, another surprise, women actually love when men are competent) and maybe Snow possess a little more savvy than what is portrayed in the original. We can amplify stories through adaptation... not tear them down. Hollywood is missing opportunities left and right, then trashing the audience because we want actual depth. Instead we get *literal* skin-deep drivel.
And Zegler is full of it. She's trying to change course as a PR stunt. Hopefully people stop throwing money at these horrible movies (the only part where audiences can actually be blamed- we need to stop funding this stuff).
Snow White is about finding true love, for both men and women. Snow White is not about empowerment. If you want a story about empowerment, write another story.
thats why, imo, the cinderella remake is still the best remake for disney (not like the bar is very high). In the OG Disney cinderella movie, it had a lot of cutaways with the mice as a type of comedy break, while in the remake they stepped away from the animals and mice and gave more of a story to the prince and Cinderella which worked out. Just like you said, they could step away from the animal parts in this remake and add in extra scenes for the prince and snow white, but that would be asking too much from disney.
In my opinion, the core concept of Snow White is that TRUE beauty comes from within. The Queen wants Snow's looks, but is a villain because she is completely unaware that people would love Snow even if she was hideous, and they would hate her own tyranny no matter what she looked like. And the Queen's obsession slowly consumes her. Snow, on the other hand, works hard to return the kindness given her by the dwarves, and is so innocent and giving that even an assassin can't bring himself to end her. If she had only been left alone, she would never have thought of the Queen again. Her beauty is a spring that wells up inside her endlessly.
I find it highly ironic that the person they hired to pretend to be Snow White is actually behaving exactly like the Queen. Zegler is arrogant, dismissive, and even cruel to her co-stars. When anyone challenges her, she tries to destroy them violently. Everything has to be about her and how awesome everyone is supposed to think she is. I find it hilarious that Disney doesn't even seem to REALIZE that they've made something exactly the opposite of what they claim.
The thing with Snow White taking on that domestic role is, I never really thought of it as her doing women's work. The way I saw it, she turned the skills she learned as a victim of abuse into a means of survival.
Which is pretty empowering in its own way.
That part of developing the prince more into a proper character is what made The Little Mermaid revolutionary in 1989. Yes, it was Disney going back to its roots with an adaptation of a fairy tale, but the fairy tale was updated in a smart and considerate way. It doesn't bother me that the little mermaid doesn't die at the end, just like it doesn't bother me that nobody dies in Hunchback of Notre Dame. Stories and the retelling of stories evolves as culture evolves, and hypothetically, there's nothing wrong with that. It's all dependent on execution though, and recently Disney has been blowing it. The Disney remakes are universally shit because they prioritize what they perceive as political correctness over quality storytelling. And now the chickens are _finally_ coming home to roost. Yes it bothers me that Lion King and Beauty and the Beast remakes made billions, how could you tell.
Rachel Zegler is a perfect example of the Hollywood bubble. For the past several years, she has been in Hollywood getting praised for saying all the things she said in interviews. Then was genuinely confused when she was getting flack for the things she had been saying for months at that point.
Yes, I've spoken with Hollywood people, and the bubble is VERY REAL. They are totally separated from human society.
0n behalf of all New Jerseyans, I apologize for Rachel Zegler.
Touch grass @@jaredbaratta8589
Yes, I've spoken with Hollywood people, and the bubble is VERY REAL. They are totally separated from human society.
a flack is a publicity agent. flak is criticism.
she was most certainly met by both.
"You might not have noticed it... but your brain did."
Only Harry S. Plinkett could have immortalized those words.
Something that might help save the Snow White film is Ballard of Songbirds & Snakes... It's being received well and that gives Zegler gets a positive image boost by extension.
Given enough time she'll be remembered as the girl from Younger Games and not her bad press.
Halle literally bullied a small business and doxed a woman because she had a "bad experience". Halle then did not apologize at all to the turmoil her fans afflicted on a small business. She used her fame for bad. she is not good
What? Tell me more
@@fightographyae1 Happened a couple of weeks ago. A salon that she'd been going to wouldn't serve her or her sister one day because they turned up to the appointment 15 minutes late. A big thing was made, including playing the race card.
The salon owner is heavily pregnant, and has been getting a lot of hate from Halle's fans because Halle's boyfriend put out a call to action against her.
@@fightographyae1 As far as I understand (based on what people have commented on other videos of this interview) Halle and her sister had separate appointments at a nail salon which they were both obnoxiously late for. The salon admonished them and said their behaviour was unacceptable (which it was) and, as a reponse, Halle effectively called on her fans to dox the salon by encouraging them to bombard the business with complaints and negative online reviews.
@@martindixon54 If true, she is an horrible person and not much different than the other celebrities who uses their popularity to get their way no matter the consequences on the other party.
Lmao wow, so not only is she a bad actress but also a bad person too.
The irony.
She's like an embodiment of every negative stereotype of millennials/Gen Z (narcissistic, arrogant, poorly informed yet overly opinionated, and disrespectful of those who came before them and laid groundwork for their success), but in her case they're all true. You can tell that the nice, charming Rachel in the interview is just a character portrayal from a moderately talented actor, and that the real Rachel was the heel that we saw in earlier interviews.
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Exactly!
Shes not even talented, her only ticket to fame was being born pretty, which lays all the credit to her parents, so congrats to the parents! You banged 1 night, and you created a monster capable of getting high off the smell of her own farts.
Shoulda cast her as the evil queen of Snow White, that would have tricked people into believing she was a GOOD actor!
Nothing about her attitude remotely resembles millennials. She embodies gen-alpha. Pure self-centred idiocracy.
Youngest millenials are like 28.. I get your point. But she the definitetion of Gen Z
Love lock stock thanks for the short clip at the start lol
I think Rachel's problem is probably since she was like 12 people have been telling her she's destined to be this huge star.. So the diva attitude she developed in spades..
I've been a photographer for 49 years, and if there's anything it's taught me, it's a fine eye for contrast.
It seems that no one in the comments has noticed the subliminal message encoded in the clothing of the two characters in the "interview".
They put a white dress on the brown chick who is still brown.
They put a black dress on the brown chick who's wearing more white paint than a goddam FedEx truck, and white stockings.
Now reflect upon which of the two Disney is trying, along with an entire multi-hundred-million-dollar production, to salvage, with a desperation that all but drips off the screen, and why they're doing this.
[Cue Final Jeopardy Theme]
I noticed Zegler's white hose. Just made it all the more obvious that she's far too dark for now white.
Reminds me of Jim Carrey's movie "The number 23" 😂
OH TRUST ME.... I think most people noticed all that! What a total load of BS that was... It is not going to help! The Poo is already stuck to the wall!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣well spotted!
I saw that. And then wondered... what the everloving fk is Halle Baillie wearing? It looks like a ruched shower curtain.
Let’s all give thanks to the Variety red carpet interviewer that always gives us these gems. Unknowingly showing us that Hollywood is vapid and useless.
Undoubtedly some of the most honest journalism we’ve seen in a long while.
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Its like watching Icarus of career
I blame the internet and technology for a lot of the stuff we were never meant to know, but even back in the day, words were more measured on those appearances which still exist today - such as the Red Carpet.
Errr, we've known that about Hollywood for a while now...
Like a wise man once said, "Knowing is half the battle"
You going to put your money where your mouth is and stop giving Hollywood your money?
Her hypocrisy is pretty damn transparent.
I still imagine how much sweet irony it would’ve been if when they race swapped the little mermaid with a black girl, that at the same time they tried to race swap say black panther with a white guy, oh boy the amount of backlash that would’ve gotten, the sweet sweet irony
This is probably the best acting we will get from RZ. Gotta love how Disney have tried to make her look sweet, innocent and pure.
She's way more witch than Snow White.
someone didn't watch TBOSBAS 😂😬
and lightened her makup and put white stockings on
That shows Disney is desperate to gas lighting people !
Savage 😂
My biggest issue with Rachel Zegler's casting wasn't that she wasn't pale enough, it's that the plot makes no sense if it requires Gal Gadot to be jealous of her looks.
The original Evil Queen was beautiful. The entire point of the movie is that Snow White's beauty comes from her good heart, and Queen's rotten character made her look worse. I think Gal Gadot can pull it off. The true issue issue is Zagler
agreed, and in this interview it seems to me they were making her look much more like Gal, her dress, her hair, her skin, all of it mirroring Gadot. Its not working though.
Am I the only one that doesn't think that either of them are particularly good looking?
Gal Gadot makeup-less in a potato sack would still be hotter than Zegler could ever imagine herself as.
Snow White & the huntsman had Kristen Stewart as Snow White with Charlize Theron as the wicked step mother who is near impossible to better in looks
I assume Zeigler was previously praised for her smiley-quirky-chuckling-irreverent-exuberance. This would have encouraged more as the young are easily susceptible to flattery and praise.
Due to her inexperience, she was unable to "read the room" and see how she was percieved by others. Arrogant, self-centered and more like a wicked step-sister than a Princess.
I doubt it will happen in 2024, but I do hope Zeigler grows up and gets a real second chance someday.
While we have all been young and stupid, most of us had the good fortune of not having our stupidity recorded and blasted on the internet.
That's possible, but there's another possibility: Rumor has it that Rachel grew up in a very upper middle class environment and even attended private school. Assuming this is true, it would go a long way toward explaining why she comes off as selfish, spoiled, entitlement minded and elitist. She already had a reputation of being outspoken and opinionated long before she said anything about Snow White. Remember Gina Carano, the actor Disney fired from The Mandalorian for alleged insensitive social and political comments? Care to guess who was leading the charge to get her fired? If you guessed a young Latina who has a leading role in an upcoming Disney feature film, you are correct. And that's just one example of Rachel opening her mouth and causing trouble. Now, I'm not saying she doesn't deserve a chance to correct her course. What I am saying is she truly deserves all the backlash she has received. Actions have consequences, and Rachel needs to learn just how far reaching those consequences can be when you continue to open your mouth and insert your foot. She's so toxic right now it doesn't matter what she says -- someone is going to criticize her for it. Best thing for her to do right now is go total radio silence for at least six months, then come back with a more humble attitude. She might just be able to bounce back. But if she doesn't change course soon, she'll never find work in the entertainment industry again.
@@user-zn5qm2yq9h Thanks for the background. You are right in that Zegler will need to wait awhile before she can possibly redeem herself. In any event, while I do not wish negative outcomes for other people, I am not shedding any tears for the downfall of this brash young actress who played a part in causing Gina Carano to get fired for her personal life choices.
Karma is a real thing.
@@hpaulbryant729 If you want to see more, check out Rachel's comments on Trump supporters, Jeremy Renner, the SAG/AFTRA strike, and how she handled not getting an invitation to the Oscars after she won a Golden Globe for West Side Story. You may also want to check out her social media posts after the whole Snow White fiasco went down. Again, she's not beyond hope, but she has shown a pattern of behavior that she really needs to break if she wants her career in entertainment to continue.
Excellent observation
Halle isn’t without controversy though. When she went on a Mexican talk show to talk about being Ariel she talked about how good it was for Ariel to be black and the host said in Spanish “I didn’t even notice the color of your skin because of how beautiful your eyes are.” And she accused him of racism. 🤦♀️
Well it's kind of a weird comment.
Yes indeed; she's certainly had her share of foot in mouth moments; i.e. before that incident she'd told the media she was a victim of rassisms for backlash over her casting (which was the reason the Mexican host was trying to reassure her). It's just that her missteps aren't covered as much, so not everyone's heard about them.
Guess she's one of those indoctrinated to believe the "not caring about skin colour = racism" nonsense
@@monkey6207. Maybe weird but hardly racist.
@@monkey6207just shows how different the perspective from a non-American can be
Her skin color either didn’t catch the hosts attention at all or didn’t seem relevant to him
Initially People weren't as mad with her casting as they were with the casting of the dwarfs. But the benevolent Rachel decided to take it all on her. She saved the dwarfs from public backlash. What a noble soul.
No replacing whites isn’t OK. Soon it will be too late to even say anything at all.
It’s funny because that picture circulating wasn’t accurate and was like a fan made thing (the one with different races and all normal heighted ppl) but weirdos took it and ran w it.
Now that's a strong female character
No people were absolutely mad about a latina being swapped in to replace a white woman, with the description literally being "skin as white as snow"
People were still pretty mad because while Rachel isn't bad looking, she's Latina and snow white was literally described as having "white as snow" skin.
A "monumental moment". Thank you for this gift, Mr Drinks
I really like how sharp TCD is able to analyzes the problems our modern movie and film industry. Big like !
The contrast between Zegler's before and after backlash interviews is hilarious. Like two different individuals.
PR training
She has longer hair, looks more attractive, softer voice, tone, everything.
The only correct response to her recent interview is "Weird! Weird."
It irked me that Rachel sings the Hunter Games song. Her version is beautiful but can’t stand her in interviews. Rachel was the wrong person based on her disrespect of the story. Halle never disrespected the story of the work behind it.
@@lauralarrabee7870 i think she needed to articulate what she’s excited about with the live action. I think she is just excited to tell a new version of a classic story, but she just articulated awfully in an attempt to sound relatable. She was a youtuber before this all, she’s more familiar with being that kind of celebrity that tries to connect with an audience rather than persuade them or something.
That whole Variety interview just reeked of damage-control.
And the worst part is how stupid Disney must think we are to buy into it.
But you see dear viewer. Disney fans ARE that stupid to believe what was said in that interview
You're not buying it, but your brain did 😂
@@emhome924- Nope.
Exactly this!
Like, it feels like they're assuming we're going to suddenly forget everything she's said before this interview as if it never happened. We all know what she really thinks of Snow White, how ignorant she is of the source material and hard work put into the OG film, and she will never be the one who deserves the role. As a mixed person, this also goes for the fact that it still feels wrong to race swap a German princess for literally no reason other than to try to score brownie points. Just make us new princesses who're different races and stick to the source material when it comes to classic fairytales. Idk why it's so hard for Disney to make new content now
It was only that day at D23 where Rachel Zegler was being interviewed and responding with some really silly answers to the questions about Snow White. She was probably just having a bad day. I’m sure she is a nice person.
It's a PR spin, she hasn't really changed. Snow White will still bomb.
Remember that scene in the Addams Family, when the summer camp councilors locked Wednesday in a little shack and forced her to watch wholesome cartoons for 24 hours straight, and she came out all weird and managed a creepy psychopathic smile? I think Disney did that to Zegler. She disappered for a few weeks and isn't acting or talking the same at all. They hypnotized her and reprogrammed her brain.
It would have to be something more like Clockwork Orange brainwashing to try to fix her! 😂
And just like with Wednesday in the Addams' Family, she was faking it to the nines.
You’re overanalyzing this, it’s just her following advice from PR teams/talent manager because her rep took a nose dive. Nothing more.
The Disney lawyers pulled her aside and told her that she better shut her fv cking mouth.
Prolly holdin a hostage.
Body language speaks louder than words. Both actresses were clearly coached on what to say, how to say it, what NOT to say, and specifically dressed and filmed in a way that both flatters them and puts them into a dignified light. The manipulation here is thick and hefty....and their body language says more than their words.
Yes, and I'd also guess that it was heavily edited- possibly even reshooting some bits? We've seen this happen in other cases.
Haley came from right under Beyonce. She is going to know how to act and behave like a lady. Ever seen Beyonce act distasteful in any interview? Nope.
Rachel on the other hand just didn’t get the same training.
Speaking of hefty, that trash bag the mermaid actress was wearing was most certainly _not_ flattering.
But so was every other interview during that time? Of course there's gonna be a flattering light it's Hollywood. Of course they are PR trained. IT'S HOLLYWOOD.
You're looking for things to pick at.
@@ithamarlowe6158 I dunno I'm pretty sure Halle Berry has been around longer then Beyonce.
@salazam Well maybe but she still looks pretty good for a 52 year old lady.
Love the clips you use for your videos especially that last clip 😂
That blobby in saw had me spitting my coffee out!! Haha
I hate people like them that act like successful women/leading actresses are somehow a new thing , we've had leading women for DECADES and it was never an issue, we've had women win tons of awards and sales records from music and other industries but as soon as the criticism comes in they scream sexism and racism
And the stunning and brave independent woman immediately changed her views the second a man in a suit told her to
I was going to use this as a point towards showing this is not any sort of real contrition or even a reflection of her true attitude in this interview. The fact that they focused on the fact that, OMG, they're WOMEN facing the backlash shows they are still trying to play a victim card here.
Pam Grier needs some respect on her name!!!!!
🎯
and if you study history correctly, you'll see women always wielded a fairly equal amount of power over society, sometimes more sometimes less than men, so its just plain dumb that the latest generation of spoilt princesses think they never got any power in history and need to commit revenge as if 2 wrongs makes anything right.
That "women in power" line really gets me because in the original story, Snow White basically won the Darwin award when she let the queen trick her multiple times. The queen just kept making assassination attempts, and the dwarves told Snow to stop letting strangers in the house, but it just kept happening.
😂😂😂 It's so funny, cuz it's true! 😂😂😂
It's probably why I never really liked the film, and why the queen was really the most interesting character.
Good villains usually steal the show. Alan Rickman did it twice, in Robinhood: Prince Of Thieves, and again in Die Hard.
@@dinosaurwoman In the film that happens after the first attempt.
makes sense since women in power do really like to screw everything up and blame to everything else but them
Ah yes, snow white.
Played by olive tan.
She was coached and told what to say and how to behave, it's an act.
Absolute Deflection. She showed us who she was when she thought there were no stakes. As the saying goes: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
@@davidbrown5955 i mean if i was Disney right now i won't even hire her again for future projects. Essentially, make her an example to upcoming movie stars, on what happens if you piss-off not only the fans but the company your working with.
I mean there are certain and i quote unintended "publicity stunt" that you can and can't due on live camera least of all crapping on the companies legacy, and crapping on the fans of said legacy, that been around longer then she was ever born. But again this is modern day Disney were talking about, they just don't want anymore bad publicity for there brand to stay nice and shiny for everyone, and milk the success of there predecessors for cash.
Deflection to the umpteenth degree!!!
It's pretty gross how Disney is using Bailey as a shield for Zegler when this whole Snow White backlash is not her problem at all. You never see the directors or producers stepping in and trying to smooth things over themselves.
with this "new manufactured look" she also recently became an ambassador for Dior...convenient. I bet Disney paid for that in an effort to shift the narrative. She has new hair, new clothes, new makeup, new everything. Convenient
Indeed, all the higher ups are the real villains in this story but they are not the face so the internet just ignores them .-.
@@neltins5308 First rule of leadership: *everything* is your fault.
- Hopper, A Bug's Life
@@fenzirulfrBoycott Dior. Boycott everything Rachel Zegler is in until she goes away. We vote with our dollars. Demand better.
Agreed! Bailey had uglier treatment, and not even over anything she said. Hailey Bailey enjoyed being The Little Mermaid.
Oh man! I can't wait to learn that Alice In Wonderland
was about a girl named Alice who discovers she is lesbian and falls in love with the Queen, and in the end they rule together as loving queens. ☠️
I CAN'T WAIT! What a WONDERFUL story that would be! True to imagination and valuable lessons!
Honestly that could be great with a good script
So it’s true. Disney has no respect for the audience. Do they really think we won’t notice that they used clothing and lighting to make Hallie look darker and Rachel lighter toned? Even if for many people it’ll only be recognised on a subconscious level.
Do they really think that most people are going to be fooled by the dramatic shift in personality, opinion, vocal tone of Rachel in just a few short months? Now, I don’t have much faith in the intelligence of the general public but I have to believe most people will grasp that Rachel has been heavily coached by a PR team for this interview.
I always admired Gene Wilder who never did interviews, because he didn't want anyone to know him - just the characters he played.
He was astoundingly good. Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles, and Willy Wonka being three of my favourites of all time.
This is a hugely significant point. The really clever stars know their fans are better off just seeing their performances and celebrating that. Once they start "revealing their darkest fears" or making their stance on political or social issues known it just gets annoying.
I don't understand why agents/managers don't require public speaking courses for these young stars. They need to learn how to brand themselves.
I think he said the sheriff's near?
If I like an actor/actress's character, there's nowhere for the actor/actress behind the character to go in interviews but down.
Not a bad strategy. Lol, a bit like when Johnny Depp appeared in the Pirates of the Caribbean ride in Disney.
Rachel went from : _"We might change the whole thing she's a strong independent capable woman, It's HalleWood BaBeH!!"_
to : *This film is a masterpiece and has to be treated with respect since its very important fir the story of animation and fantasy*
Such an abrupt tone shift that I almost feel bad for the many people who were suckered by it. That's the thing about PR though isn't it, as long as it fools enough people it doesn't matter if it's true or not, just that it works, and enables that kind of disreputable behaviour to continue.
Hollywood Hates Honesty?
She respects it much like Logan Paul respects Japan
I know alot of strong independent women! Rachel is not one, thats why she has to scream it and is so obsessed with portraying her character as one.
“She is the bestest ever.”
I thought she said the movie scared her when she was a child
0:50 - that shot reminds me f the meme with Elsa Jean and a bunch of black guys
Whenever I think of Snow White these occur in my mind: 1) Professor Sela Matthers of Grimm Fairy Tales Presents from Zenescope Comics 2) And The Huntsman 3) The Rebel Freedom Fighter Turned Queen Turned American Grandmother on Once Upon a Time. 4) The other Snow White where Dwarves hid their size that came out the same time SW and The Huntsman came out. Sometimes the order changes with the exception of Professor Sela Matthers being always #1.
Autocorrect must be observed diligently.
I’m actually so thankful that she revealed her true self. If she had just lied, it would still be the facade tricking everyone. The more the curtain is revealed on who these people really are, the better in the long run for films and this woke shit will fade away
It will fade away for now. It will probably rear its ugly head again in about 15-20 years, as it seems to do.
I don't mind if she lied all the time without and never revealed her hand cause after all she is an entertainer both on and off camera but too bad she got caught
With each outrage their coaches will only get better at masking their message. Nothing has actually changed. "Management is never wrong".
I get what she said before but isn't this a good thing? Why we punishing it? Also, you would never accept correctly identifying Trump as a mega malignant narcissist but we label her a narcissist cause of a comment about a dress lol! Don't misunderstand me, she was awful.
its like bruno movie interviewing the pretentious fashion designers ....
My fashion is cold, icy, temperamental, distant and isolated
a few moments later....
My Fashion is warm, cozy, focused, together and warm
Not enough people are talking about her stance against a woman who has a story about falling in love. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that as a goal, and not every woman, or man, wants to be a great courageous leader. It's extremely condescending of her to speak on such a concept in the way that Ziegler does. She literally says that being a strong female leader is better than wanting to fall in love. I think that's disrespectful, naive, and sad. If you're going to normalize female characters who become strong leaders, you can't banish female characters who want to fall in love. That's not empowerment - That's bullying.
The weird part is that she is in a relationship since 2021 and she has publicly stated that her relationship is important to her so she is being a hypocrite here. And besides that, Snow White is a princess so she will automatically become queen no matter if she is good at it or not, so the whole `the leader she can be` is kind of ridiculous given even more so that none of the stories mentions anything about how they rule their kingdom.
Great comment! I agree. I used to get backlash for deciding to marry and have children instead of going to university. I regret nothing.
Most people spend their life searching for love and never finding it.
That "woman" (she doesn't really deserve to be called one) is a POS.
This is all feminist manipulation. The demographic that Snow White appeals to are love struck young girls who want a boyfriend and have fun and not be tied to heavy responsibilities.
These middle-aged cat horders with gender studies degrees and eggs as shriveled as they are use these movies as propaganda to pass the unwarranted chip on their shoulders on to the next generation of naive victims.
I disagree with that entirely it's not disrespectful or naive is just an opinion you're really going to take what she says seriously. I know what bullying is and this definitely is not it. I agree with you there's nothing wrong with somebody falling in love but not everybody wants to do that which is also fine. This is a prime example of you can't have an opinion without somebody on social media getting upset
Considering she said she watched it once and never again, and that it was weird and dated to now THIS… I don’t Believe a word of it and I’m still not going to watch the remake of my favourite Disney animated film.
Love that "Lovck, Stock" clip❤
Didn't watch the interview. Didn't even know it was a thing. This is literally my entire exposure to it. And from frame 1 of seeing them, I immediately was able to see the manipulation tactics, and the narratives.
We're both victims.
We're both so incredible.
Feel sorry for us.
Give Mickey your money, forget the fact that he hates you and only wants your money so he can burn it in front of you, knowing that he's taking food from your mouth and especially your children's mouths. Feel sorry for him.
Subscribe to D+.
Watch all the movies. Twice.
You'll do this, if not, you're an istaphobic bigoted monster.
This!!!!!
"We're both victims" -Says the two millionaires.
LMAO
If they start this shit-preaching to me, I'll simply show 'em my adorable erected middle finger.
I’m just hoping we see an end to the mouse in our lifetime. Disney is hemorrhaging money like it’s going out of style rewriting classics to infuriate life long fans and cater to the like 5% that actually care what race/gender the protagonist is. Slight subject change but I hope rockstar games doesn’t go down the same path with gta6. Don’t cave to the woke twitter brain dead sociopaths, just put out a good game 😞
Snow White is a work of art that doesn't need to be re-made , just release the original in movie theatres for a 1 month period as I guarantee many families would go out to see it.
Digitally remaster it, improve the audio track ( dont change it, just clean it up) and "modern audiences" would flock to see it. It's a timeless classic .
Definitely would like to see a couple movies re-released in the theaters; first time I saw Jaws was in theaters for the 40th re-release with my dad for his 40th. Excellent experience!
I’m pretty sure what people look for in voice quality has changed. Recently watched the original with my daughter, and neither of us could stomach her singing. Not exactly a nails-on-chalkboard reaction, but somewhere in that area.
To clarify, bad reaction was mostly mine. She mostly laughed at how bad she thought the singing was.
assuming we have families willing to go modern theaters anymore or that there are even families to begin with.........
They literally told her to act more like a quiet white girl.
I am not sure why she says the movie focused on Snow White's love story. The prince sees her singing and falls in love with her, then he spends his time, off scene, searching for the girl that fled from the queen while Snow White meets new friends and becomes their, much needed, mother figure. The love story is almost non-existent.
The problem with Disney's plan is that it didn't make Zegler look more relate-able
It made Balley look more phony and less relate-able.
Most of us know that Hollywood is one big circle jerk or self and peer admiration...this interview and frankly the entire Variety series is nothing more than something that just exposes that to the world.
@@gryphon1911 White people mustn't pretend like Halle Bailey committed a heinous act. She did nothing wrong but play a white character that not many straight men cared about
Very Evidently So.
The sacrificial lamb
The strangest spelling of 'relatable' I've ever seen 😂
Halle Bailey deserves an Oscar for saying Rachel handled the criticism “gracefully”
Bailey can be redeemed and I can't say the same for Zegler.
Bailey seems like a genuinely decent person. If that's just an act then she deserves more roles and more awards. The other one... good luck to her and hope she has a good life but she appears to be a symptom of all the worst things in hollywood.
Can't stand people blowing smoke up each other's asses. The internet is an echo chamber of it. Someone posts a selfie and every friend comments with "you're so beautiful" or "such an amazing person". Instagram is the root of this evil
@@newtpondskipper Rachel is part of a larger problem within Hollywood and that is thew woke plague that some dipsh*ts at BlackRock thought would make them money.
As for Bailey she is not free from criticism neither. But her level of ego was smaller by comparison and Bailey has a chance to be redeemed in the future and Zegler has none for she has yet to earn a second chance.
@@newtpondskipperSorry to say but it's an act. Have you read about the salon incident? Hallie and her friend were extremely late to an appointment and couldn't be served. They each lost the plot and were asked to leave. Hallie then asked fans to doxx and review bomb the business. The heavily pregnant owner lost her baby due to the stress
Mr Blobby 😂😂 💛💖
Haven’t thought of him in 30 odd years LMFAO
Some one checked her and checked her good..
Thing is, apart from being extraordinarily self-congratulatory and transparent in its motives, this interview has more power to do harm to Bailey's image by association with Zegler than it has to rehabilitate Zegler by association with Bailey.
I see two obnoxious brats pretending to like each other like opposing magnets forced together.
@@ephraimwinslowyep, about as phoney as that yak Halle’s wearing on her head 😂
True. I don't remember Bailey being as antagonistic as Zegler.
Which was actually smart, just let the shill media do all that, and remain above it all.
I was actually thinking just that as I heard about. Drag her down with Zegler. An unfortunate fate that might happen.
100%. If this did anything, it dragged Bailey down by association to Zegler's level. I understand why she did it, she probably doesn't have much work lined up but I still question whether overall this was a good move for Bailey...my guess is no
I like to picture Disney executives grabbing Zegler by the shoulders and going "Listen here you little shit..."
South Park Mickey Mouse.. Picture that..
That's what should have happened, but I bet the woke executives were just as surprised as Zegler by the public backlash. They're embarrassed by the white characters in the classic European fairy tales that built their company and really believe race-swapping the roles is a big win. It baffles them that the public doesn't praise them for it.
Honestly I was upset that they changed the look of Ariel too but Hallie Bailey CARRIED that remake. She was literally the only good thing in it! The CGI was awful and don’t get me started on Awkwafina as Scuttle!!!🙄😡
Guess Dinklage is really happy that possible live 'dwarf' actors were replaced by animated ones. So much progress made.
Two words: Damage Control
Woulda gone with 'piss off' myself, but I respect your decision. 😊
Do a video of bourne (franchise) movies!
Well, they postponed the film for a year and a half for the same reason. A film that is finished and was scheduled to go on to the big screens right now
@@infinitydreamzz Like she's not going to say more stupid sh!t for the next 18-20 months. 🙂👋
@@mentalphilanthropist35 the problem (for her and Disney - not for us) is that every time she is saying something stupid it is costing Disney dozens of millions. So even though she wants to run her little mouth, someone obviously put her on a leash
Rachel is one of these people that would have no problem throwing one under the bus. What stood out for me was in particular her disrespect and non caring of her male co-actor “That’s show business” remark. This is another fellow actor trying to make his way, to make fun of him and showing such disregard speaks volumes of how vile a person Rachel is.
If he said that about her he'd get crucified. Possibly literally.
Womp womp
@@kalashnikovdevil Remember, it's completely okay to be sexist towards men (and racist towards white people) in today's age. It's honestly sad.
The same sentiment of "Hollywood can be weird and they could always make a last minute change that completely switches up the movie" could be gotten across even with the idea of his scenes getting cut but phrased in a way where it doesn't seems callous to her costar.
If she said, "who knows, in Hollywood someone could just come along and cut all his scenes", it would've been a lot better. I think it makes the decision seem more like an arbitrary whim of some exec (which emphasizes her point) and less like something that could just happen as a natural course (because changes that big are weird unless there is a problem with an actor)
Exactly! Hailey Bailey never cared to mock or criticize her costars.
I’m looking forward to watching the classic animated Snow White this Christmas,it’s an absolute work of art.
In short she was coached, prepped and brushed by Disney's PR to appear more palatable for future interviews. She probably received a list of no-no words she isn't allowed to use in her promotional scripts.
It still bothers me that Rachel called the original Snow White “dated” 😤 Like seriously, how is one wanting to find true love or a woman showing femininity a dated concept? Those are things that still exist today, like I’ve seen and worked with couples around my age (I’m in my late 20s) where the girlfriend/wife expresses how much they love their boyfriend/husband, and I think that’s really sweet of them to show that! If Snow White was “dated” then that means every woman these days would be loveless, soulless, emotionless, empowering robots….and we also wouldn’t be alive if it weren’t for women as well (same with men too 😅). The point is, love is always wanted and needed! ❤️
I think love IS true empowerment! For men and women!
@@melb6746 agreed! 🙌🏻
Calling a story like Snow White, which has been around in folklore in various forms for hundreds of years, "dated" shows a complete lack of understanding of the source material. There is a reason these stories have endured for centuries, the social tropes they embody didn't just disappear in the last generation.
Biology and human instinct do not figure in their dictionary. Don't bother arguing with these mad horde.
Phrases like "dated" and "didn't age well" are the new smears directed at anything more than ten-years-old that happens to run afoul of the standards set by our would-be censors. Opposite-sex courtship resulting in love between a man and a women without social commentary on the patriarchy or unequal power relationships is automatically suspect.
Rachel: "Was it enough? Did I convince them?"
Drinker: *slowly shakes head*
There is a moment in South Korea just like this, when a leader was caught with a hot mic after apologizing for a totally avoidable tragic death scene after a famous mall collapsed.
Drinker: "Oh Miss Rachel, I thought we'd agreed never to lie to each other..."
Rachel: I didn't come across as fake, did I?
Drinker: Nah, it'll be fine.
Go away now.
ayyyyyyyyyyyy he got the referenceeeee@@davidpo5517
Gal Gadot was present or nearby in several of these interviews with with Zegler, and she neither pulled the younger actor back from the brink nor did she contradict her, which makes me think the majority of the misread of the audience is on Disney. The people running the company already display a contempt for the “outdated” principles of Walt Disney and seem unable to read audience frustration with what the ”new, improved” Disney corporation is force-feeding children. I don’t doubt that Zegler’s original take was just as crafted as her revised one, with Disney attempting to pitch this film as yet another “empowering” revision that steps away from outdated and old fashioned tropes from the backward days of yore.
At first, when I stumble upon the new Hunger Game Movie, I didn't really think that Rachel Zeglar was the same as that Girl from the Snow White. The contrast to her action during Snow White and than her actions during the Hunger Game is so different that it caught me off guard. I am genuinely baffled because to me the whole Snow White Disaster felt like, it was just yesterday, so when I ended up seeing her in a interview as a character in Hunger Games, I got very intrigue and confused. The tone of her voice and her mannerism is chill to the point that, you would assume that she in some sort of drug during the whole Snow White disaster.
Today , Disney is focused more in diversity, equality and inclusion than making entertainment and good movies / series , Snow White becoming the Snow Woke isn't a surprise
It was inevitable
_" Dîe-wôrse-îty. "_
Live by the woke you die by the woke and that's the bottom line because stone cold said so what!!!!!!!!
Now entertainment is secondary for me. Why, a western company, cultural product, hates the very core of West? Why are they insertong lgbt agenda into everything. Why those talentless diversity hires earn millions while someone more suited is probably living in dept,? Why someone hating me should get millions by ripping off people like me?
How do we get Disney back? How do we get Western Culture back to it's normal track?
There is nothing wrong with "diversity, equality and inclusion". The problem is that Disney thought it was a replacement for "making entertainment and good movies / series". Nowadays women have to be "strong" and "in positions of power", when storytelling 101 tells you that this is a problem. Everyone likes a smart, creative and resourceful woman that uses her strengths to compensate for her weaknesses as a protagonist (same as for male protagonists). But that's not allowed. Because she has to be "strong".
*IF* the new concept was for real:
What do people hate, about the pre-changed version?
*- The actress.* And they kept her.
*- The fact that a famous midget didn't want other "small people" to act as the **_7 Dwarfs._* And they replaced them anyway with (terrible) CGI.
So... what lesson did *Disney* learned, again?
That their profits are no where to be seen. That’s what they took from this.
We have seen in the last year alone that most "blockbusters” have been failing financially in the box office. (Meaning that they haven’t made 2.5 times the cost of the production).
The last few years alone shows that they THOUGHT there movies would be hits no matter what. So any backlash from the social media wouldn’t have swayed them in the slightest to change anything.
Now we see the results of them having to back pedal after heavy losses of money. And we see the old habits still in play, them not wanting to change anything. Of course we do need to recognize that they already spent the money of this trash fire. They don’t want to spend any more then absolutely necessary. So no new main actors or anything like that.
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
@@moonlighthunter5421 what is it good for?
@@shilyarrmee their* Also, Disney is a MULTI-BILLION dollar corporation. They don't need their movies or shows to be hits. They still have their exorbitantly expensive amusement parks that still rake in billions of dollars every year. Their bank account is doing just fine.
@@coffeebreakhero3743 Huh! Good god.
Didn´t expect to hearing The Critical Drinker being that fair with Brie Larson! Good to see people not having biases all the time and sticking with them - when actors/actresses actually change for the better (even if it´s only in small steps here and there), it´s a nice thing to acknowledge that
I'm guessing a more sophisticated version of Pavlovian Conditioning was applied on RZ to get her to tone down her abrasiveness (after all, she's not Malcolm MacDowall with eyes propped open while Beethoven's Ninth is playing in the background).
she’s coasting on that race and gender card. Hollywood is never goin to cancel someone like her unless we the audience vote with our dollars.
We the audience have clearly voted with our dollars for years and they are just now listening. We need to do more than just be passive and let this go feed the sickos who support such misandry. We need to actively oppose the messaging and treatment and show Disney WE are paying their bills. We are not bodies and pods like in the Matrix or Wall-E. We are the Romans and Disney is a gladiator among competition. They need to remember that.
I doubt they ever will even if we do. At best she'll just stop appearing in productions all of a sudden, and we'll likely only realize once she puts out a press release bashing hollywood and "fans" about being on a blacklist or something like that
@@royalnovember66 I mean yeah that would be the W when the actors that act this way aren’t worth anything capitalism will sort it out. It’s unfortunate that we’ve had to witness the destruction of so many beloved franchises before Hollywood and Disney especially are finally realizing that they don’t have a blank check to just print money forever no matter what they do, but the writing is very much on the wall now and they’ll either go back to trying to make movies for more than just Twitter or they’ll implode (I’m really fine with either).
Imagine, if you will, the secret love child of an Indian Ghost Shirt and a Get Out Of Jail Free Card in Monopoly. That's not just the Race Card, it's what being any "protected class" is. Why do you think these absolute narcissists invented "non-binary" and "self-ID"? Before that, you had to actually BE a minority, or g@y, or trans. Now you can just say you're [whatever Victim Du Jour], and presto, you're as safe from criticism or accountability as Jimi Hendrix is from playing Winterland again. Even better, if one type of victimhood starts losing currency, you can just say you're the new best victim type.
I forgot this movie even existed, but thanks to Drinker for reminding me and covering in detail what the actors had to say.
There's literally no way she can walk this back. There is no amount of damage control Disney can try to do to fix this. Her sound bites and clips are now a staple of pop culture and there is no way to scrub that impression off the internet.
You had one chance Zegler, you done messed it up
She's still young. Let her learn and grow up then.
"Fifteen Minutes" of fame for female actress is more like fifteen seconds. She won't recover...
You must be new here.@@irurouni
@@irurouni” She’s still young”?! She’s a grown adult woman, not a 6 year old.
@@FallenAngel9979 She's 22, no? How old could actors be in comparison? It's not teenager-young. Certainly young adult. Not a lot of sense in her... but look who is surrounding her. Anyway, this is a serious public error she has incurred. But since she wants this identity as actress and public figure, let her learn how to live up to it responsibly. Better now, recover, and build your career stronger with many years after.
the juxtaposed interviews are chef's kiss
This is the best bit of acting I’ve seen from either of these women.
It bothers me that Rachel never apologised to women, who grew up watching these movies. I wanted true love as a teen for example, which did not prevent me from going to University and working in IT, being very successful in my career, while still appreciating genuine human connections and feelings.
So many women who are now doctors, lawyers, politicians, astronauts etc (basically LEADERS in many cases as Rachel pointed out) were watching Disney movies as kids and are having loving marriages. She completely disrespected that in her interviews and I really wish she would address that.
Half of all marriages end in divorce so idk about all those happy loving marriages
Sour grapes?
Marriages never 50 50
You said "loving marriages" so Im curious which number your on then?
"very successful in my career" indeed.
I imagine that after saying what she said in those initial interviews, all she's going to be allowed to do from now on is what she's told. Perhaps she does want to apologise, but the people telling her what to do will likely never let her because that would be an admission that she did something wrong in the first place.
It's amusingly ironic that in being outspoken about how 'outdated' the original was she's not only put herself on a short leash, but has likely also caused Disney to panic and reshoot the movie to be more in keeping with the original.
Rachel’s performance in this interview reminds people of that Bud Light’s damage control commercial of “horses, flags, small towns, working class people” released shortly after their iconic famous shitshow.
Yeah, totally worked.
With each outrage their coaches will only get better at masking their message. Nothing has actually changed. "Management is never wrong".
They believe their audiences never learn anything about them, but always only follow the most recent message.
Nothing screams "honesty" like curated and pre-planned gal-talk. I hope reshoots of this move will be so astronomical and earnings so low Disney will sell Star Wars so we can have nice things again.
Never trust an actor, especialy when you suspect they are acting...