More Secondaries Than Napoli! - Michelangelo First Impressions

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Komentáře • 151

  • @icefrogger1313
    @icefrogger1313 Před 7 měsíci +155

    Coincidentally, I watched this video to see what the Michelangelo was after getting wrecked by one. Only to find out it was a video of the game with me getting wrecked. Now I know for next time, it has torpedos and lots of secondaries. Also fairly tanky for a cruiser.

    • @Zergling.
      @Zergling. Před 7 měsíci

      who where you ?

    • @usssimshullnumberdd-4095
      @usssimshullnumberdd-4095 Před 7 měsíci +4

      ​@@Zergling.I would assume he was the Black that got two-tapped by the main guns

    • @Colin-eo9xj
      @Colin-eo9xj Před 7 měsíci +37

      @@usssimshullnumberdd-4095 I would assume he was the kronshtadt named icefrogger lol

    • @icefrogger1313
      @icefrogger1313 Před 7 měsíci

      I was the Kronshtadt. But I did lose all hope when I saw the USS Black player yolo out.

    • @usssimshullnumberdd-4095
      @usssimshullnumberdd-4095 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@Colin-eo9xj as you may be able to tell... I have very poor critical thinking skills lmao. Thanks for pointing it out

  • @gothia1715
    @gothia1715 Před 7 měsíci +182

    Hybrids aside this is the new weirdest ship in the game.

    • @Varix-wx6fs
      @Varix-wx6fs Před 7 měsíci +13

      I rather have these hybrids than the CV/BB hybrid. Lol

    • @jonathanliu4816
      @jonathanliu4816 Před 7 měsíci

      Michelangelo is rolling in his grave right now

  • @paullempges7860
    @paullempges7860 Před 7 měsíci +10

    That move on the Halland around the island was one of the funniest moments I've seen!

  • @alphax4785
    @alphax4785 Před 7 měsíci +23

    *Looks at Mir Korabley's Michaelangelo camo... sheds a tear...*

  • @TallulahSoie
    @TallulahSoie Před 7 měsíci +6

    Adopting the 18th century tactic of crossing the T when designing ships now.
    Oleg must've left a bottle of vodka behind when Lesta split from WG.

  • @chris8878
    @chris8878 Před 7 měsíci +39

    Wow, seeing your secondaries 3 shot the destroyer was wild.. I do wonder if main battery accuracy module may be a better pick. I am definitely going all in for this one, there are plenty of game modes this ship may do well in, same with schroder.. on top of this you never know in the future if WG may give manual secondaries to cruisers or some more universal cruiser secondary buffs, many ppl would regret skipping schroder & Michelangelo.

    • @frankwong9486
      @frankwong9486 Před 7 měsíci +2

      The DD was like disappeared

    • @joedoe6444
      @joedoe6444 Před 7 měsíci +2

      after i got the Schroder i only played a few games in it and put it aside. a few months back PQ did a video with it so i took it back out and gave it more of a chance. it has been my most fun to play ship over the last few months, i just love the damage from the secondaries going wild. i already have the Napoli, but this one looks weird, but fun maybe. i hope to see others doing reviews also in the coming days to help me decide if it's worth the 6k dubs.

    • @richardwarner2801
      @richardwarner2801 Před 6 měsíci

      Schroder with flag I get 12 km secondaries...works very nicely.

    • @CH3TN1K313
      @CH3TN1K313 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I pray for the day we get manual aim for secondaries, period. Like they do in the mobile game. It would make the game that much more interesting.

    • @alexh8402
      @alexh8402 Před 6 měsíci

      I was wondering how this ship would be compared to the Schroder I love mine and so glad I got it.

  • @zontarr8812
    @zontarr8812 Před 7 měsíci +3

    That Halland found himself locked in the non habitable orbit of you secondaries

  • @stevepritchett6563
    @stevepritchett6563 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I do plan on getting this, plus the Napoli once the new coupon comes out tomorrow. Thanks for the vid 😀👍(Just subbed as well)

  • @peterchang2310
    @peterchang2310 Před 7 měsíci

    Looks like a fun and strong secondary cruiser, this dockyard is definitely worth grinding for.

  • @vampirecount3880
    @vampirecount3880 Před 7 měsíci +8

    This looks like a bad ship, but a very nice one to play in 3 players division. Imagine 3 of those together sharing smokes, or 2 and a DD spotting. I would be hilarious

  • @windwardsailor6427
    @windwardsailor6427 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Don't usually grind dockyard ships, but this might be worth it. Having a blast with Napoli and this might be something cool in T9 ranked.

  • @frankwong9486
    @frankwong9486 Před 7 měsíci

    Did it got better shoot angle when facing backward / so the ship can doing kite style well ?

  • @maudrysilvain5905
    @maudrysilvain5905 Před 7 měsíci +26

    reminds me of the old joke : if you gave a BB with only secondaries to KMS mains, they'll enjoy it.
    Also if you think that's cursed, I'd definitely like to present you the early sketches for Richelieu, it's the same thing

    • @Blythe985
      @Blythe985 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I would

    • @professionalantichristhate528
      @professionalantichristhate528 Před 7 měsíci

      Yes.

    • @maudrysilvain5905
      @maudrysilvain5905 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@Blythe985 according to John Jordan (who's probably one of the best authors on French ships) ; project 5 and 6 bis were carrying two quad 380s in a P-Q configuration with the funnel aft of both turrets and quad 130 mm at A-B and X positions, it was abandoned because overweight to the WT tonnage (35000 tons)

    • @frankwong9486
      @frankwong9486 Před 7 měsíci

      Simply a tanky ship with fast reload high pen small gun( those do /4 pen on HE )

  • @Dirt1061
    @Dirt1061 Před 7 měsíci +12

    As a new Italian main, I must get for the new best commander to helm.

  • @gaborferenc2276
    @gaborferenc2276 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I had a bit of asymmetric today with Zieten, bracketing a lot of broadside BB's and cruisers thinking perhaps this ship is all about positioning to be able to use the secondaries, in the meantime roll the dice every 22-25 sec hoping to see a 6. Fast forward a bit and voila, same thing here: all about the positioning. That's your main role, the secondaries will do the shooting and aiming.

  • @jakubslavik5595
    @jakubslavik5595 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Ahh man, I guess I will have no Christmas this year, the memery is strong with this one.

  • @Valoord
    @Valoord Před 7 měsíci +3

    We have Shreder for germans, and now we have one of turtles who fight that ninga... Both are cruisers with sec builds... Hm than Splinter will be cruiser with only sec, without main guns...

  • @nozyspy4967
    @nozyspy4967 Před 7 měsíci +11

    5:17
    There is no way you should ever get away with a manoeuvre like that with an Incomparable on your broadside. Any normal player would get instantly obliterated... 😆

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Před 7 měsíci

      I think he got lucky and Incomp fired at Groningen

  • @MoistThot
    @MoistThot Před 6 měsíci

    Is there a best way to complete the dockyard? How many hours do i need to realistically spend playing to complete it? Thanks

  • @jonathanwills4726
    @jonathanwills4726 Před 7 měsíci

    Wow. what UI mods do you use? I really like the way you make it look. also subbed.

  • @coryp1811
    @coryp1811 Před 7 měsíci +1

    ran into a triple div of testers in them .. they wrecked our A cap in a pain train but i managed to triple cit one for a dev strike before i went down in my Iowa. looks like a decent ship.

  • @arczer2519
    @arczer2519 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Secondary DPM on paper is higher than Napoli, but Max DPM is only in 87 degree angle (55° forward angle, 37° backward angle)
    Napoli on other hand has full 135 degree secondary firing angle (20° forward, 25° backward)

    • @frankwong9486
      @frankwong9486 Před 7 měsíci

      Some combine both side ,this one looks working fine as the secondary turret is in middle so it have to choose one side to focus while regular secondary ship can do both side at same time

  • @SJB117
    @SJB117 Před 7 měsíci

    Appreciate you PQ

  • @Ensign_Cthulhu
    @Ensign_Cthulhu Před 7 měsíci +1

    0:48 This is why I _never_ buy in at the start. I don't doubt my ability to finish almost any dockyard, but sometimes real life happens and there's no way to catch up.
    The positioning of the turrets is similar to that of the great Italian ironclad battleships of the late 19th Century, except that they had their turrets positioned out on the wings to allow head-on fire in pursuit or a ramming attack.
    No HE in the guns at all? That might be a deal-breaker for some.

    • @corbinpearce7686
      @corbinpearce7686 Před 5 měsíci

      Pretty normal for Italian ships. SAP isn't bad by any means, it just makes you better at handling DD's and Cruisers rather than lighting fires on BB's.

  • @dangardner8456
    @dangardner8456 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I have a Napoli - which I enjoy playing - I don't think I would play this ship that often with a Napoli in my port...I don't like the main gun angles at all and it isn't worth the grind to get those secondaries IMO

    • @Choukai_Chan
      @Choukai_Chan Před 7 měsíci +1

      Well, it's a Tier IX tho.
      So even if you focus on Napoli in randoms, whats about ranked or brawls ;)

  • @dphalanx7465
    @dphalanx7465 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Napoli is a CA, right? This is more of a BC with a mix of the 12.6in guns (that were used on Italy's WW-1 BBs) and the 6in secondaries (as found on more modern Italian BBs). That might change how you should play it. Those weird turret arcs remind me some WW-1 designs, so this is definitely a throwback...or someone's experimental design.

  • @tenfingerstentoes
    @tenfingerstentoes Před 7 měsíci +1

    Well now I know why the one I saw in game just liquified to a Montana salvo

  • @nikolaschart7668
    @nikolaschart7668 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hydro is really nice to have in this ship, if Napoli had hydro too it would be OP as hell.

  • @booch9109
    @booch9109 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I guess the Italian Navy never had plans on upgrading to larger than 90mm secondaries

    • @DAN24972
      @DAN24972 Před 7 měsíci +2

      They actually had a plan to mount in the same aa turret a 120mm gun, but WG simply ignores that

  • @rickwiggins283
    @rickwiggins283 Před 7 měsíci

    Fun video. Also "Full send" means full; What am I missing?

  • @rageorge1369
    @rageorge1369 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hey PQ, want to show some love here and want to proposed a comparison ship request: Mackensen vs. PEF
    What you think?

  • @BestShifty
    @BestShifty Před 7 měsíci

    Does this thing get improved secondary accuracy because it doesn´t look like it gets it.
    That would be an absolute no-no for me when the main guns are this awkward.

  • @zlpatriot11
    @zlpatriot11 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I get the feeling this ship could be pretty strong in a T9 ranked/CBs season, similar to Schroder.

    • @MarcusKuann
      @MarcusKuann Před 7 měsíci

      This thing has the worst secondary firing angles in the game.

  • @mwfrancais2998
    @mwfrancais2998 Před 7 měsíci

    Wait
    My ship selection looks different than yours
    How can I change to? Can you please tell

  • @KnodsilMemeMaker
    @KnodsilMemeMaker Před 7 měsíci +1

    Downside compared to the Napoli is that it also burns like a battleship. 60 second fires aint something Napoli has to deal with.
    On the other hand that hydro gives it such a massive advantage. Having both a running smoke and a hydro is just as braindead as a regular smoke and a radar. Especially on a secondary build where it doesnt even get spotted as it runs towards you.

  • @joedawg39s
    @joedawg39s Před 7 měsíci

    that secondary turret spins so fast

  • @waverleyjournalise5757
    @waverleyjournalise5757 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Dang, I wonder where they found space for all those engines and boilers

  • @privateer9181
    @privateer9181 Před 7 měsíci

    i see your steel and research and coal show on your main port menu...is there a setting for that?

    • @rickwiggins283
      @rickwiggins283 Před 7 měsíci

      It's a mod you can get from Aslains. Look for something called 'resources' under the 'port' section.

  • @quinnwu2054
    @quinnwu2054 Před 7 měsíci +1

    woo new secondary ship!

  • @ILoveforGames
    @ILoveforGames Před 7 měsíci +2

    Honestly I think Napoli is better overall however, Michelangelo is damn good at Tier IX. My only problems are the gun angles and the easy to citadel broadside.

  • @PsydenIII
    @PsydenIII Před 7 měsíci

    11-inch or 283mm is cut-off for not dealing full damage to DDs. Anything smaller does full damage, while anything of equal or greater size does less.

  • @maxterhex
    @maxterhex Před 7 měsíci +4

    Main problem is the main guns angles :(

  • @Blythe985
    @Blythe985 Před 7 měsíci

    But how is the grind looking? Is it bad?

  • @rexatimperator
    @rexatimperator Před 5 měsíci

    Its basically a small BB and put into cruiser category with speed buff.

  • @brisancomstock9366
    @brisancomstock9366 Před 7 měsíci

    i might actually get michealangelo as my first dockyard ship

  • @clairewilliams8225
    @clairewilliams8225 Před 6 měsíci

    So what did it cost altogether in dollars?

  • @-tr0n
    @-tr0n Před 6 měsíci

    I feel that ships of this nature might come with manual secondaries skill built in

  • @fobgrvt
    @fobgrvt Před 7 měsíci +1

    Not sure it's the SAP doing overpen dmg or a bug in the dmg/ribbons.
    I've been noticing it quite a lot lately, dmg numbers being very inconsistant.
    1 example I had yesterday, on a practically full hp BB
    first shot 1 pen 5 bounces for 1k dmg (overpen value)
    second shot 4 pens and 1 overpen doing 1k dmg as well
    Or a few games later with Venezia
    first shot 5pens for around 10k dmg
    second volley 7 pens for 8k dmg
    both with sap
    I've even had overpens with a BB do more dmg then the equivalent in full pens.
    I know there's a saturation mechanism, but I've seen it happen even on near full hp ships at the start of the match.

    • @ryanli5803
      @ryanli5803 Před 7 měsíci +1

      There's weird things where shells will do overpen + pen damage.
      No clue how it works.

    • @arczer2519
      @arczer2519 Před 7 měsíci +1

      when you hit modules you get 10% damage, its most notable on secondary battery hits

    • @berk6775
      @berk6775 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Its about saturation when a ship part saturates(like nose,supersturcture) its takes less damage(about 50%)

    • @arczer2519
      @arczer2519 Před 7 měsíci

      @@berk6775 im only saying that 10% damage can also come from module hits
      if ship has full HP them only source of 10% damage can be overpen, module hit or coded limit (283mm+ guns AP/SAP vs DD's)

    • @berk6775
      @berk6775 Před 7 měsíci

      @@arczer2519 i have a lot of things to say about this saturation thing but its not my main language and a cant explain it but i think you get the point

  • @grim3850
    @grim3850 Před 7 měsíci

    Hey bro do you play any other games?

  • @cringe_lord5762
    @cringe_lord5762 Před 7 měsíci +2

    WG literally too much playing admiral Dreadnought😂

  • @kennysjamshack2410
    @kennysjamshack2410 Před 6 měsíci

    I think is a strange ship, but it is fun to play. have to play it backwards the mains are secondary and u just let the secondary's do all the work.

  • @dany1441
    @dany1441 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The main gun placement is a dealbreaker for me. Even the front gun requires 30 degrees angle just to shoot forward.

  • @jasonmariani1258
    @jasonmariani1258 Před 5 měsíci

    I have A LOT of ships. 1 tech free ship and 40 or so premium ships. Yeah I know. I’m impulsive, that aside, the Michelangelo is by far and away my favorite ship and I never play it conservatively because that’s not how ya captain her. You must go into harms way and be mindful of your driving more than anything. I love this ship.

  • @Cedric8486_1
    @Cedric8486_1 Před 7 měsíci

    a ship so weird. I will get her. she looks fun

  • @jonathanbaron-crangle5093
    @jonathanbaron-crangle5093 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It looks weird AF & has MORE hp than Moskva at Tier 9? (by 1k)
    1st match very well played for a BB main

  • @manuelaigner5126
    @manuelaigner5126 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I would like it if the turrents were same as napoli but this weird setup is a no from me 😂

  • @ReDiR20
    @ReDiR20 Před 7 měsíci

    Looks better than Napoli tier for tier, doubloons ready!

  • @gamingrootz4411
    @gamingrootz4411 Před 7 měsíci

    What are those?!

  • @bigdoguk9845
    @bigdoguk9845 Před 7 měsíci

    Madness I tells yeh

  • @quintiax
    @quintiax Před 7 měsíci

    Hey I designed this ship in Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts!

  • @panzerkampfwagen8439
    @panzerkampfwagen8439 Před 4 měsíci

    The 3.6k base xp probably came from the *2.5 million* potential damage bro

  • @Francis915Emoji
    @Francis915Emoji Před 7 měsíci

    must have!

  • @jasonroberts9794
    @jasonroberts9794 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the vid PQ, will give this one a pass

  • @gblowe62
    @gblowe62 Před 7 měsíci

    1st dockyard i am going to skip, and with 623 ships in port I think that's saying a lot from a collector. Not my play style.

  • @flounder2760
    @flounder2760 Před 7 měsíci

    That first game looked like it had 2.4 mil potential dmg too might have been a reason for the high Bae xp after they fuckered the numbers

    • @Frigidblood
      @Frigidblood Před 7 měsíci

      Spotting gives the same amount of xp as actual damage now. He had 134k spotting damage while bottom-tier against superships. No doubt the potential damage also contributed, but the spotting likely was more impactful.

  • @Asianese
    @Asianese Před 7 měsíci

    I think the hydro is a pretty big advantage over Napoli tbh

  • @Lukos0036
    @Lukos0036 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I always ignore the dockyard stuff, it's far too scammy to entertain the notion of putting time into.

  • @Royce9019
    @Royce9019 Před 7 měsíci

    The Weido ship of Wows

  • @user-od8tm6rx5i
    @user-od8tm6rx5i Před 7 měsíci +1

    Really said: who needs main guns?

  • @rememberstayangry2366
    @rememberstayangry2366 Před 7 měsíci

    I wonder how many people actually complete the dockyard.

    • @TheKobiDror
      @TheKobiDror Před 7 měsíci +1

      It always depends on the prize.... not going to finish this one

  • @ashleighelizabeth5916
    @ashleighelizabeth5916 Před 7 měsíci

    This one is just too weird for me, I have enough trouble figuring out the "normal" ships.

  • @hatoffnickel
    @hatoffnickel Před 7 měsíci

    "how full send do you go?" lolol if you have to ask then it's not enough!

  • @slimtim1969
    @slimtim1969 Před 7 měsíci +1

    They nerfed the sap against submarines because of what happened to that poor destroyer

  • @williammorris584
    @williammorris584 Před 7 měsíci

    The way to go when you depend on automated mechanics for damage 😄

  • @Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll
    @Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll Před 7 měsíci +2

    Puke-worthy camo. Sadness. 😢

  • @miles3380
    @miles3380 Před 7 měsíci

    What in the spaghetti name is this ..them main turrets are at the midship💀..first time i ever seen a ship with main turrets not at the fore but in the amidship of the vessel..so weird combo

  • @boydy7351
    @boydy7351 Před 7 měsíci

    Michel AngeYOLO

  • @Go_Spleef_Yourself
    @Go_Spleef_Yourself Před 7 měsíci +1

    Can they stop giving brawling ships no icebreakers, especially ship lines known for armored cheeks/icebreakers. (Looking at you too german large cruisers)

  • @lightningwingdragon973
    @lightningwingdragon973 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Ugggg i have a feeling i know wyat im buying for shipsmas. Urrrgggg.
    Edit: hmm, maybe not

  • @Martinistatzengeil
    @Martinistatzengeil Před 7 měsíci

    i have no idea how the first game was 3600 base lol, i have games with 300k dmg and 3 dd kills that merely get over 3000, strang af

  • @mr.eggplant866
    @mr.eggplant866 Před 7 měsíci

    Was that Black a shill ?

  • @billhanna2148
    @billhanna2148 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you. You HAVE TO play a NONE-Secondary build just because. 🙏🙏

  • @mandalorion
    @mandalorion Před 7 měsíci

    Has anyone ever told you that you sound like Dr Hibbert when you laugh?

  • @frankwong9486
    @frankwong9486 Před 7 měsíci

    Holy crab gonna pay a lot for these again

  • @HeliSniper479
    @HeliSniper479 Před 6 měsíci

    To the be armchair admiral, you should have smoked up around 17:30 you might have survived

  • @old_guard2431
    @old_guard2431 Před 7 měsíci

    If I can’t get the Sistine Chapel camo, I’m out. On a serious note, I wish they wouldn’t bring more of these monstrosities to Tier IX. At some point Tier VII becomes unplayable.

  • @michaelray3865
    @michaelray3865 Před 7 měsíci

    If I still cared enough to give the company any more money: yes, I’d whale this thing and Napoli too if I hadn’t already bought a Napoli.

  • @Ethax99
    @Ethax99 Před 6 měsíci

    lil bro in the black 🤣🤣🤣

  • @gandariel1
    @gandariel1 Před 7 měsíci

    So ye each salvo you need angle and position ..anything in-game will smash you with a rate of fire ..so no than you :D

  • @Creamypie626
    @Creamypie626 Před 7 měsíci

    so with this ship, you are playing as if your front guns are always knocked out. You can't even rush bow in.

  • @canadian_gamerzslol6174
    @canadian_gamerzslol6174 Před 7 měsíci +1

    i think it a ship u gonna be deleted in alot given u have show that much side just to shoop useless sap shell

  • @SteelxWolf
    @SteelxWolf Před 7 měsíci

    Any ship made around the idea of showing full broadside to make it somewhat useable is really bad in this game. Napoli will still be better imo.

  • @SnafuBob
    @SnafuBob Před 7 měsíci

    First DY event I'm seriously considering for some time...

  • @mikkodoria4778
    @mikkodoria4778 Před 7 měsíci

    easy pass for me, this dockyard ships are weak anyways except for some

  • @davis6048
    @davis6048 Před 7 měsíci

    The dockyard is the ultimate screw over........As WG makes these missions harder to complete may not complete this stupid ship and getting steel again you may not able to complete it again and pay in advance for the steel would be a total loss. The missions involving commander xp you better have a lot of boosters on hand..........

  • @AdamWieczorek-Vetinari
    @AdamWieczorek-Vetinari Před 7 měsíci

    Its a funny ship but I think its extremely bad, if it was scaled down it would be dogshit even on T6

  • @Kidtoucher-wg9gg
    @Kidtoucher-wg9gg Před 7 měsíci

    AI gaming yeah yeah yeah

  • @kevink6265
    @kevink6265 Před 7 měsíci

    Weird to put such a meme ship in the dockyard. What is it, an all or nothing close range brawler, but trash armor and 1 set of torps per side? Weegee logic at work.

  • @2DollarBOB
    @2DollarBOB Před 7 měsíci

    When you went too aggressive on the second play. I feel like. That's what most players will do in this ship. Me included. Hard pass for me.

  • @JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens
    @JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens Před 7 měsíci +2

    I am so sick of secondaries. Having some 45%er in a ship with god tier armor just walk at me and kill me for free with AI gunners got old real fast after Schlieffen came out. And now they can't stop themselves from adding more and more secondaries.