Norway vs China | 2v2 World Cup Grand Finals & Interview
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- Norway versus China in the 2v2 World Cup Grand Finals! Who will take claim 1st place?
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This video was created under Microsoft's "Game Content Usage Rules" using assets from Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition, © Microsoft Corporation. - Hry
Yo in training: "Lyx, we're going up against the two best defenders and boomers in the world. Let's consider not going complete yolo agression unless we have to. Just look at what happened to Spain".
Yo after seeing his gold lamed in minute four: "So that's the kind of fight it's gonna be. Fine - Lyx, give it to them."
The rest is history.
s-s-s-s-s-s-s-spoiler alert
@@KimStrandberg93 d d d d d d don't look into the comments before finishing the video.
@@ashmonkey2572 usually i would agree, but anyhthing over 15 min im gonna watch the comments.
dont be afuckdouche and spoil the video i say :D
Seems like a you problem, Kim.
@@KimStrandberg93 Your short attention span is not our problem.
Great set this one. My fav part was lyx dropping a barracks on vipers face and then inside mbls base!? What a fucking mad lad
That was out of this world, he is a rad mad lad
Me too. And when I thought it’s a prepared strat by China, mryo actually didn’t know this until he looks at the recs 11
According to Yo's cast later on, lyx actually deleted 2 farms just to sling him to siege onager in the same game...
It's a magnificent strategy by the Chinese, but i think that what they have is teamplay. They are two people, that play as one, and feels like 4.
Lyx was definitly the man of the finals - never gave him much credit, but this guy is a madlad together with Mr. Yo!
He's the Rubenstock of China. Except better. And Yo is better than Max.
They acknowledged his skill and massive impact on the game
What an amazing tourney, Lyx is so entertaining! Feels like no other team has the raw confidence to pressure Norway like that
What a great crossover to see you here, SunlightBlade! :-D
top ten aoe2 games when?
Something like Top Five Castle Drops in World Series really would be fun to watch!
Sunlightblade, sekiro is assassins creed 4.0 trash game
Holy cow sunlightblade also watches aoe?!
I never gave lyx much credit, that was very impressive teamwork
I knew it was going to be a fun series when I saw the trust that Yo and Lyx had between them and also the macro from lyx raiding, defending and helping at the same time OH MAMA I can barely keep up at dark age XD
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After this World cup, Lyx is now my favorite player.
Timeline
May contain spoilers
0:00 Arabia
Huns+Mayans vs
Franks+Ethiopians
32:42 Scandinavia
Italians+Persians vs
Celts+Mongols
1:07:00 Team Acropolis
Burmese+indians vs
Berbers+Cumans
1:41:05 Nomad
Spanish+Lithuanians vs
Koreans+Malians
2:15:03 Valley
Saracens+Malays vs
Tatar+Magyars
2:54:30 Chaos Pit
Teutons+Aztecs vs
Slavs+Incas
3:16:12 interview
Take my like good sir
Thanks!
This is the best content since hidden cup. sick series
I think the qualifiers were more awesome because its sloppy play. Lots more action
Unbelievable tourney for sure!
You should watch battle of africa 2
@@DukePegasus I've watched BOA 2 and pretty much every major tournament for the last couple of years and they were great but I don't retract my statement
@@emlynhoyt allright, just didnt want you to miss out.
Lyx is such a madlad. props to him for his amazing plays.
It's insane how perfect team work can make the sum of individual skills bigger. Viper and mbl might destroy 1v1 most of the time and have more elo combined, but this shows beautifully what amazing synergy can do. Also lyx is my new religion now
aren't viper and mbl team mates?? Like I'm sure they got enough experience in playing together, I think what might have made it difficult is the messy/whacky way to play???
@@anblueboot5364 they are not teammates unless in national tournaments. MBL is/was part of Aftermath with Hera and co. Viper is part of GL(former secret, Tyrant) with Tatoh, Daut and co.
@@anblueboot5364 Mikael is right, they actually have almost no experience together.
@@Halvtooth huh would have thought that mbl was also part of former Team Secret idk why but thx for explanation
@@anblueboot5364 Norway didn't even field a national team for a really long time because they were 4v4, and Mbl didn't become good until only a couple of years ago. In many ways, you could consider Mbl and Viper kind of friendly rivals, rather than teammates.
And with all that, Yo has become just as good as Viper the last year or two. Viper isn't the same powerhouse he used to be. And Mbl has never really been in the discussion, even if he has been consistently top 5-15 for several years.
That Yo and lyx won is not really that surprising result any more. Norway was favourites, sure, but not by a lot. The importance of Lyx was probably not due to his skill, but that he could pull out a different style of playing, while Mbl, Yo, and Viper are all more standard. In short, I think this was a difference between the weakest link in both teams, while Viper and Yo are equally matched.
I return to this every once in a while. The Scandinavia match is a classic.
Both Yo and Lyx started streaming after the games (I think at the same time as the interview).
Yo: Lyx had been carrying me in the whole series. I did nothing but just doing economy.
Lyx: Don't you see Yo's highest score in all games we won? (Think for a while) Except nomad.
I'm a fan of both Yo and Lyx. In Yo's streaming, comments all said that Lyx won the championship with a translator (joking).
Mr Yo is a so good translator.
哪里可以看他们的采访？火车一般在哪个平台做直播，做赛后解析？
Lyx seemed to be able to use the civs to their fullest. The last game he picked a civ that has strong vills and just killed everything with them. This was fun to watch.
hi Zheyuan, can you write us the link to mrYo and Lyx stream?
@@kcabeza77 Here is:
Mr Yo's cast:
www.douyu.com/753676
Lyx's cast
www.douyu.com/1029928
They generally start live broadcast at 9pm beijing time（GMT+8）
I hate being 2 to 3 knowing how much time is left.
Yeah man, plus accidentally reading a couple of words in comments automatically appearing under the vid which was praising lyxs play
There was plenty of time for another game as there were interviews
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@@jqerty nice tip, thanks for sharing. I would definitely try that, but usually watching via phone.
thats y u dont look at the time bar at all cost
“Shut up and show the announcement” omg mbl
What was the announcement? Is it about the HC4 trailer that came today?
I can't believe we saw the "I meant to pick magyard" strat in literally the finals lmao
Man, the production of this stream was amazing. Overlays and interstitials are fantastically designed. Hats off.
is this the best 2v2 ever??
Most entertaining one for sure
Viper's confidence drops 50% when Yo enters the game (tournament game).
That last game was sick from Lyx. He single handedly destroyed both Viper and MbL. We are talking about a top 50 player against the best 2 players of this game. And the gg was called even before Yo really had to build any sort of army, that was insane.
Lyx plays MBL and viper weekly. Lyx doesn't play 1v1s. He's probably a top 10 player in team games.
In fact lyx in 1v1 is something like in top 20 / at least top 25 range. In Mr. Yo '' top 15 '' list lyx is there too.
@@themonopoly5342 Last I checked he was 45th, thus "Top 50". Anyway my point is that he probably would lose most games 1v1 against either MbL or Viper but he his much more powerful as part of a team with Mr.Yo
Just finished Norway vs Spain! And this goes right up after, so perfect
China auto-nerfing Viper by taking P4
That interview was hilarious! +1 if you want to see Yo and MbL cast a 1v1 between Dave and T90
does Yo speak english?
@@udozocklein6023 yes, lyx doesn't but Yo's at least fluent enough to hold a casual conversation as well as analyze a game.
43:00 "Lyx is the most annoying player" - "always has been"
43???
BANG
MMMM WHATYA SAAAAAAAAAAY
44:06 to be precise
Who is here after the Podcast?
What podcast? This came up as my next to watch video from T90
I watched this entire match on youtube, heard about an announcement, was hype for the announcement...
AND THEN THE VIDEO ENDED WHY HAVE YOU DONE THIS T90 hahahahahahaha
It's so funny rewatching this from even just 2 years ago and hearing Dave saying "20 pop is insanely quick for archers". Oh those were the days!
30:55 T90 "I can't even speak now."
31:23 T90 "Talians"
I'm spanish, so I just want to say that he ate the I. T90 was very hungry.
Like celts when they eat tcs
Congrats to the winning team, I thought it was deserved and the scoreline was a fair reflection of the performance.
I have to say that throughout the torny, I have been hugely impressed with Lyx. You always expect great performances from Yo, he's a top 3 player IMO, but Lyx has always seemed a little on the yolo side, and whilst that's fun, it's not something I've considered to make him at the very top. But really if there was a winning reason here, it wasn't Yo, it was Lyx, and really, good for him.
The yolo players are often really good when teamed up with one of the top players. It's almost surprising that Norway performed this well with a worse team synergy than many. It speaks to the sheer quality of their individual performance, but they don't have the best chemistry
Great series! Good job T90 and everyone else who worked to put this all together. One of the best interviews at the end as well. So glad they all got in the chat. We are luckily to have such good guys who are also the best players.
SPOILER:
Game 2 was the end for Norway. They had the north water to themselves, had the advantage over Lyx, but never were able to do any kind of damage vs Yo which is just gg when he has Mongols. You can never underestimate Lyx, even when he is down economically. Mongols untouched to post-imp is almost always game over. Felt like they could have had that game and this might be a different story
agree 100%
I think the game norway had to win was Arabia. Viper cleared up the feudal army 1v2, MBL was able to FC...and then everything went wrong. They couldn't deny yos gold, barely got vill kills - and Viper wasn't prepared for the next wave of archers. Imagine he had sent 1 vill to palisade the south. Imagine they had just taken out Yos tower instead of ideling woodlines.
Game two felt much more like a civ loss, combined with just horrible mapgeneration for norway.
I've only watched the first 3 games so far(accidentally saw the final score on twitch yesterday 😒) but it feels like Norway just weren't at it today. Even in the 3rd match when they won, they lacked the killer instinct and almost seemed scared of China. They had mangonels and camels at the opposition base and could have done a bit of damage. They got scared and pulled out when China had nothing. At one point Norway had about 40 military, China had around 10 and they pulled back to their own base and were trying to defend against a tiny army. At the same time they had more than double the villagers too
Commenting before watching, and it's been cool having other co-casters but I'm glad its Dave for the final. You two are the best!
This was such an amazing tourney! Props to you T90 for setting this up. It was a joy to watch from start to finish!
What a great final for a great tournament. Thanks a lot T90 and all your team for this.
When I saw Norway vs Spain I was like "whoo that's the best AoE2 I have seen in a long time." And 24h later this sick final, so great! There is no doubt Viper and MbL are the best 1v1 players here, but it was really nice seeing China teamwork. The best TEAM won, a good lesson here for the lazy boys ;) Also really cool from both teams to try such different strats, it gets really boring to see knights/arbalest vs knights/arbalest all the time and what did we get here? Malay elephants in a no water map, Korean towers in Nomad, lot's of uniques and so on !!
I think Lyx won our hearts here. The way he gave everything to give time to Mr.Yo to Boom in peace was insane. I mean look at the second game. Both Viper and MbL are top players, they know Mongols have to be stopped before post Imp and still they spent the whole game without being able to scratch Mr.Yo eco thanks to Lyx "sacrifice". Again I think China was really playing together here while Norway was more feeling like 1+1 vs 2
very good conclusion. Same strategy in the last game, where lyx tower mbl when mbl ready for the castle age. The tower rush forces mbl to buy stone.
This has always been the problem with Norway team games.
It's why Viper is better with Tatoh or Daut. A good team needs one player to do something crazy, while the other player providing pure quality. Mbl doesn't have the creativity of Tatoh, Rubenstock or Lyx and Viper is no longer so much better than everyone else he can carry alone any more.
Really my goat casting combo. Love the work guys! Thank you for these.
The last game, that was how lyx destroyed his opponents in the most annoying way.
Such amazing play from China -- Lyx coming out with some utterly incredible guerilla strats!!! Awesome series; thanks to China and Norway for the fantastic games and to Tristan and Dave for casting!!! Merry Christmas!!!
The interview after the games is savage!
Its like 90% MBL/Viper, Yo was allowed like 8 sentenced, but he did make it count!
Fun fact:
The fans who rooted for theMax/Rubenstock also cheered for Lyx/Yo this time
True, LyX was soooo awesome
@@RSFaber-nk6lh
Lyx = Rubenstock
Yo = Max
One loves messy game, the other is deadly when boomed
Liereyy + Hoang would be awesome
Great AOE Content all around! Props to everybody in the AOE community, all of whom are responsible for the resurgence of this legendary game. Kudos to the players for love and dedication and to their top-class finger work; to the casters, who are basically producers, for their everlasting work in organizing and creating new and interesting events that keep the community saturated with the best AOE content ever to arise out of a game that is many years older than CZcams itself; to the people at Ensemble Studios at Microsoft for listening to their fans, their continuing support, revival, and renewal of a game over a decade past its shelf life, modernizing it and making it a great game to play today, and even creating a very long and highly anticipated sequel at a point where most developers would have essentially declared the series dead (half-life 3 or lfd3 anybody?); and the loudest shout out - from the top of a castle! - to the FANS of the series, the casual players, the hardcore, the old fans and the new, the developers, content creators, and core AOE constituency that has sustained it and built it up to what it is today. The most beautiful thing about this game, to me, is that everybody has a different, but similar, experience in their getting to know this game. People in the AOE community continue to drag AOEII from the tendrils of the video game death, where almost all video games go to die, and each of us contributes directly to making the AOE community one of the best video game communities in the world.
Thank you for reading my long-winded tribute. 14
p.s. Sometimes I prefer to listen rather than watch, sort-of like sports on the radio, and when the colors confuse the casters it confuses me! Idk if its worth doing, or if anyone else listens to it from time to time, but maybe defining colors at the start and sticking with it rather than allowing the players to change their colors in a tournament setting would help! Just a thought xP
loved these games! :D thanks for organising everything! :D
Rewatched this now the third time! Love it. Anyone knows when there will be the next 2v2 Worldcup?
Memb Just Said in a recent Interview that Hes probably gonna Host a big tg Tournament soon. But probably 3v3 and as a nations cup
this was such a good tourney. that nomad match was hilarious. thank you tristan and dave
What a series. I'm a big low elo legends fan and to see these gods go at it has been such a joy
Viper and Yo were outstanding as always. The firm #1 and #2 in the world, swapping places on their day. Lyx however brought more pressure than MBL could handle. What a great performance by him in this series! 👏👏👏
Lol lyx got brought more pressure than viper could handle. Lyx/Yo are a lethal combo.
Best casters, best teams... Love the community
Why am I so hyped for a game i never played
That's amazing. How can you resist not playing it? ;)
@@ashmonkey2572 I would suck at it and i dont like sucking at gaming. Im good at other games that i play for 10 years or more but i would have to learn this one from scratch. I just dont enjoy that :(
the 2v2 Tourney trailer was fricking epic my guy, love your work xx
Epic series, I've enjoyed it so much watching live.
i used to love sending waves and waves of dudes with explosive barrels at the enemy....much like the zerg tactic
Thank you so much for organising these events!!! They have been great and will continue to be great!! Awesome job with your channel!!
Mr. Yo and Lyx are great match, absolutely work as a seamless team together. Big applaud!
T90 your amazing. Watching aoe2de this way is better that watching sport.
What an outstanding game this is. I'll played it like 15 years ago, just campain and offline...just like nowadays. But your and your friends make this game so great. And your job of getting your fans through it is just perfect. Go ahead. Greetings from Germany
It would be cool to see each nation playing cultures from their history in real life. This is one of the few games you could do that with
Interesting fact: lyx is like 35 years old ish.
Actually he was the same age as DauT. Born in 1986.
@@zheyuancai7993 I never knew that, that's very interesting. Daut was born in 1985 actually and he's the oldest player in the top20 (taking King of the Desert 3 - Seeding as the top20). Lyx is an amazing player, he had an incredible performance in the World Cup.
@@theodentherenewed4785 Oh maybe I got it wrong. Lyx said he was a few months younger than DauT. I thought his peak was also at around 2010-2012 when he could use the same civ beat viper lol. And that's why I got so impressed when he could still perform well in this tournament.
Him being 35ish old. Is that vague estimate really a fact? :P
@@ashmonkey2572 someone just gave a more precise age. lyx is a few months younger than DauT and was born in 1986.
Been reading The Art of War by Sun Tzu recently - Team China apply SO MANY of the things said in that book during that first game. you could almost do an essay explaining the comparisons. What a phenomenal way to play the game.
Umm like what? I'm asking because that is not the case at all
@@hispanica316do you even know what孙子兵法is？
@@hispanica316 故迂其途，而诱之以利，后人发，先人至，此知迂直之计者也。
Thus, to take a long and circuitous route, after enticing the enemy out of the way, and though starting after him, to contrive to reach the goal before him, shows knowledge of the artifice of deviation. "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu
When the players are so wholesome , do i really care who wins? I just enjoy the surprises haha
Man please i need to sleep
Thank you T90 and pro players, it makes me very very happy game I grew up on has so much active players and growing pro community. Best of luck in the future and I hope we will see many more of these in the future.
Holy shit, I wasn't expecting this to be so untertaining! Thanks for the good casting.
T90: "I have never seen Inca vil push successful on Chaos Pit"
Lyx: "Hold my maté..."
I mean, Spain vs Canada last week?
@@jaivl1106 I don't remember that game, or maybe I haven't watched it yet so I guess you are right. But during the team pick T90 was mentioning he is not fan of the Inca rush as he doesn't find it very succesful. I think it is safe to say he was proven wrong.
@@romainberard9052 t90 said the success rate is very low, but most people on the chat said this is Lyx.
Had this thumbnail spoil it while I was getting through the quarterfinals.
Saved me having to watch the rest so I can appreciate that. Great finals.
I barely play Age Of Empires but for some reason I keep watching these videos because it's just so relaxing to watch.
The production oh this video is amazing, very good, professional way also in the commentary
WOW second game is even better! Amazing final!!!
I think China's best weapon is their teamwork. It really shows in game 5 regardless of the outcome imo.
@deadlyfeet can't forget famine
All the games on this set are very fun to watch. Many things happen compare to other sets in this tournament
Just that video that was made for the tournament is so high quality and perfect. I mean it literally compares to the Worlds League of Legends production quality or huge gaming tournament(dota2 invitational). Casting was amazing. PLAYERS of course amazing which all makes for awesome games to watch. You guys should be hugely proud of yourselves for putting on such a great tournament, seriously guys bravo.
Been watching @T90official most of the year, Lyx has been so much fun to watch.
Yo and lyx is the best duo in the world change my mind
#stevencrowder
Knights and mangos*
leerey and leerey
Mbl and boars. Larry and xbows.
@@ashmonkey2572 mbl and shittalking is a more appropriate duo imo 11
2:37:34 nice Viper, tho those crossbows in 1 tile is bs xD
3:33:00 lol
3:41:30 poor Dave >
thank YOU for making this happen
that first game was mental
great performance from both teams
this first game was just amazing!!!
Man, so nice to see RTS and especially AoE II! Keep doing such great content guys! :)
Respect to you for entertaining us for 4 hours straight
lyx just trolling the shit out of game 2 holy fuck what a chad
That Saracens-Malay combo in Valley is so wild!!
Congrats to both teams for playing at their strongest. Such an amazing series!
im so hyped for this. let's goooo
As a pro AOE watcher with 800 elo I have a lot of weight in this comment, but I really think that meta players like Viper, Hera, dogao etc can learn to play like Lyx more. I think it will improve them as players a Lyx. Meta wins 9/10 games but that 1 game where they can learn to be messy, 1st is hard to learn for your opponent and also makes it easier to play against Lyx, Rubenstock, Hoang. Just my opinion. LOVED the tournament. So much fun to see these teams fight.
Yea throughout this tournament the .easy players really shower their worth
Who would have ever guessed this matchup.
When I started this video I did not expect it to be this funny. Especially the interview at the end, as I Chinese I know Yo and Lyx meant every word respectfully but just came out absolutely wrong and savage in English lmao. The language barrier lmao!!!!!
I watch Yo and Lyx live almost every week. Lyx likes to comment on other players with a mocking tone, but he is actually a very polite gentleman. Yo, on the other hand, knows how to create "show effect" (or punchline) during interviews and live broadcasts. The personal friendship between Yo, Lyx and Viper is better than many people imagined. After all, Viper was sick when he came to China a few years ago, and Yo and Paladin took care of him for a week.
The foreign players who have the closest relationship with Yo and Lyx are TheMax and Villese of the Finnish team. Yo and Lyx called TheMax and Villese "屌丝" (pubic hair), which means very close and like-minded friends in Chinese slang, saying that they like to get together to do things that others despise, such as playing nomad map together all day long... …
Anyway, the way Yo and Lyx talk might be a bit special, but it's not savage, don't take it too seriously.
Best and closest sets in the tournament!
Hi T90. Again thanks to you and all the people involved for organizing this event. Just a quick remark for next time. I am probably not the only one here thinking Green and Yellow are not the best colors to pick, they are hard to spot on the minimap and can be easily mixed during the fights for the viewers. I am not colorblind but sometimes it is hard to follow, partciularly on a phone screen. Is there any chance those colors are changed one day? I think Red and Blue are fine and maybe Black and White/Grey could be easier to spot. Maybe. Anyway thanks again for everything.
no
Yes
I don't think T90 chooses the colours.
He complained about the changing colours for each player between games.
Mr yo cleaned out mbl archer first game was impressive
For the first time in my life a watched a tournament from first game to last and this was amazing ♥️ T-90 you are amazing . And all the players did their best and i loved it. My fav player is taaatoh though. And i have only played Aoe in 2008 against computer 😂 thats why i loved the depth that i thought was not possible but i saw here so thanks all of the caster and the players
next world cup when???
High level 2v2 is entertaining.
The set was great, Yo and Lyx played masterfully. I really disliked how you chose to do the interview at the end. Sure it's good to have the losers on as well, but you gave MBL/Viper way more speaking time and attention than you gave Yo. Despite him having fine English. Instead you chose to chat with your friends, which is fine in other situations but poor form after a major tournament final. Memb had an interview with Yo and asked him good questions about tactics, strategies, decisions etc. Good tournament, but it felt disrespectful how you handled the post-game interview.
very well spoken. exactly what i thought!
Agreed. Instead of some in depth questioning and giving well deserved respect to the winners, we got a story about MbL annoying Viper with his hair dryer. Also kind of feels bad to focus more on what Norway screwed up on than what China did to capitalize on it, even if MbL tried focusing on praise when he realized that. Kind of undermines Yo's and Lyx's moment after a decisive and dominant bo7.
I'd prefer if Norway just got a chance to congratulate the winners if they wanted to, with a finals retrospect or short form post-finals interviews with a couple of the teams like a week later.
(I know that they mentioned that Yo seemed really tired, but hope that they'll find a better option next time even if time zones are a constraint again.)
just more of the EURO centric racism that pervaded this grand finals, like having it start at 4am China time after a pointless 'top 3' match the Chinese had to start waiting for , at midnight.
I think all the silverboy memes about Viper, when DE first came out somehow cursed him lol
"His ostriches have been taken." - Dave
Every time T90 yells some neighbour is awaken by force
I love how they're using the Daut's face Castle mod even though it's such a serious high level game
13:30-13:40. Viper is as quick as a bot to react to that. Noone can beat him in that shape. 13:50, I take that back.
:D
58:23 - I never thought a ram could be so hype.
this was epic. surprised they didn't ask in the interviews afterwards. was almost as clutch as that one galley just more upfront
Totally agree with T90, the prep and coordination was just better for Yo/Lyx. They were not just two good players, they were a team.
And Lyx, the mad dog of China, so entertaining! You just get the feeling he was doing exactly what he wanted to in those games.
I was really hoping to see a standard team island game by China A in this tournament.
But the only team island game they played was a home map for Brazil and they somehow still manage to win with Celt and Teuton.
I really think that it was part of their draft strategy: they would only pick team island at their very last game and by that time, most good Civs would be used. Lyx would cause chaos in the early game regardless of what civ he uses, I believe he at least had some ideas on how to pest around with every civ in the game. The weaker civs would often not have a flexible game plan to deal with Lyx, thus buying Yo enough time to end the game.
Re-watched in 2020, there is still a lot of fun! Lyx MVP ！动老师牛逼！
Im so proud that a 20 year old game still draws 20k viewers :')