Jordan Peterson on the Christian Origins of Science [Logos & Literacy]
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- In his recent Daily Wire documentary, "Logos & Literacy," Dr. Jordan Peterson visits the Museum of the Bible and discusses the impact of the Bible on literacy, universities, and science. David Wood takes a deeper look at Peterson's comments about the Christian role in the Scientific Revolution.
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In "Logos & Literacy," Jordan Peterson claims that the Bible is the most significant and influential book in history. What if he had said this about the Quran instead? Let's find out: czcams.com/video/gDLHGL6NgTQ/video.html
the quran is a miss match of judism christianity pagan its a non entity
Jordan Peterson pulled a C.S. Lewis: Success came a knockin' and suddenly christianity is real..😂
Have you considered looking into orthodoxy? Peterson actually likes orthodoxy more between all aspects because its unchanged snd also he likes the idea of baring your cross through life
How come science comes from Europe when the oldest University is the University of ancient Takshashila is India?? Mathematics is a first step of science and it was created by Hindus. They literally created number 0, Please don't change history just prove that everything comes from your religion 😅
@@Ashutosh5897 And Arabics invented Al Jebra, the unknown quantity, X. Before that was only arithmetic.
We have seen so far by standing on the shoulders of ALL giants that came before. Imagining that Jesus was the only giant is sheer arrogance.
Being a Christian is awesome! I've only been saved a couple years. I never thought I would or could ever believe in Jesus Christ. What I thought Christianity was is so not what it really is. It's literally walking hand in hand with God as he sheds all the junk off your soul from wallowing in the mud your whole life. It's also not for the faint hearted. But God provides every single thing we need. Even the courage and strength.
Thank you for saying this so eloquently
How do you know youre saved?
Well said!!
@@Kitiwake why can't you tell that he obviously is?
Mustard seed ✝️
Goosebumps
All things were made by him; and WITHOUT HIM was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:3 KJV
Anybody could have written that?
How do you know its actually a supernatural beings word?
@@brianbridges8124-you need to study and show yourself approved! Study it for yourself and search for the contradictions in your hypothesis
@@brianbridges8124. How do you know it’s not? It’s actually not although you’re presuming it’s said to be. Jesus didn’t say that. The Apostle John did. Inspired by a supernatural being, the Holy Spirit of God Almighty, the Creator of entirely everything. I’m not obligated to prove this, as proving anything to anyone who has no absolute desire for truth and starts with subjective presumption is not possible. Hopefully someday your hardcore rebellious attitude will fall away and make way for truth.
@@dallasdien if you cant prove it then why would i believe that these events were supernatural and actually happened, they are literally just eyewitness claims that cannot be investigated.
People claiming to speak to God or to know other people who did does not mean they were correct. Theres nothing about the Christian eyewitness testimonies that are more believable than Islamic or scientology or Mormonism.
Amazing statement
I haven’t been saved for long, a matter of months. Channels like your are incredibly helpful, God bless.
Keep going brother. God bless you.
My favorite quote of all time is:
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"
Such a succinct way to put it.
Fantastic video. Thank you! 🤩
I'm guessing your name a bulbasaur reference. Love it.
There’s no surprise that so many good things started with Bacon
Maybe that's why Islam hates pigs so much. 😂 Bacon's too good for them.
😄
@@ElleISOElohim 😂
Mmm, bacon
Kevin?!?
This was so well put together, I couldn't stop watching! Thanks for taking to time to share this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@apologeticsroadshow are you Dr. Woods or his video's host? Enjoying and learning from Africa.
@@bengreen171 none?
@@bengreen171 so you would refute the origin of universities coming from the church?
Our government also our legal system was founded on the scriptures. This is not merely scientific theory.
This is probably one of the most transforming information I've ever consumed. As a believer in Christ and a mechanical design engineer who believes in the inerrancy of scripture, both my worlds now make perfect sense. Thanks DW
Actually no, they don't. There are lots of errors.
@@LaomerKedor
When you state errors…please explain what and where. Thank You!
@@CountryTenn1365 I don't have the time or motivation to serve you an extensive list that you could find yourself, but i will give some examples.
- scientific errors
example: Noahs flood story is bs, many science disciplines show this. (most important point, especially under this video)
- scripture of a god that openly welcomes the deception of 400 of his prophets (1.Kings 22) isn't trustworthy.
- contradictions
example: 1 Chronicles 21,1 vs 2. Samuel 24,1
Disclaimer: Given enough desperation, and lack of escalating precision in the texts, every contradiction can be explained away. Example: "I arrived by driving car" vs. "I arrived by walking". There is a contradiction that can easily explained away by combining the two, because no exact times are given for each activity and one arrived can mean the city, while the other arrived means the current location. With religious claims, it is even easier to explain contradictions away, since one can freely assign attributes to elements in the transcendental realm without the possibility to be proven false.
But the point is, that sometimes one has to make ridiculous brain gymnastics to explain a contradiction away.
- it has been tempered with.
example: Both oldest manuscripts don't contain Mark 16:9-20, without them being destroyed (there is an end phrase in each of them).
@@LaomerKedor yes of course human intelligence is limited and may get clouded at time so we have to keep challenging our scientific theories , we need to remain humble about science. In areas where science is congruent with revelation our confidence in the scientific explanation increases
@@MaaFreddy Our confidence in the scientific findings should be increased by following the scientific method, it should not be elevated by bronze age scriptures. By all humbleness: it would be nuts to not see scripture or it's interpretation challenged, when it is not in line with multiple bodies of science.
Reading scripture as 'revelation' is to cloud ones own intelligence.
David.... this is some of your best work! So unbelievably clear! Thank you for this.
No kidding, eh? I'm surprised at the info in this video.
I bet that atheists really love to hate David. Haha
haven’t you look at a mirror?! your satanic face is so awful and ugly😟😟😟 why don’t make your vlogs imageless?!!
Awesome information that I have never heard explained quite so coherently. Thank you, following .
Glad it was helpful!
I am currently studying physics and this video has given me a profound prospective to why I do what I do. Thanks =)
Do you know about Dr. Jason Lisle a Christian astrophysicist has a lot to say about this, and has written some interesting books.
I would ask that you listen intently and reserve judgment until you have had time to think through what the professor says and what you see. Be willing to repeat the experiment again to verified what you have seen and question the claim based on what you actually see.
Thanks for the suggestion (Jason Lisle), Barbara!
😉😉👍🏻👍🏻
@@BarbaraKeigher Does Dr. Lisle believe we're on a spinning ball?
If you’re religious and you’re studying science then isn’t that like a direct contradiction? Religion is a faith based belief yet science is evidence based how can you not question dogmatic teachings that are easily disprovable but simultaneously only applying critical thinking to anything other than your god? I feel like you have a double standard due to personal biases
How I’ve missed David wood on CZcams. GOD bless this brother
Me too!!
I'm subbed to him on Telegram. Mostly uncensored platform...unlike some we can think of.
You should check into his story. It is quite an amazing example of God's redemptive power!
What happened to him?
He deleted his CZcams channel and moved to other platforms
And i might add, this is what an excellent speaker looks and sounds like. Clear, concise, articulate, no "umm"s, and "you know"s, and "like"s...just clean, clear speaking that was very easy to follow. Exceptionally well done brother. Look forward to more of the same.
He definitely scripted the video and practiced it. But yeah, it just shows he puts a lot of work into what he's doing.
I love his sarcasm too
*** Excellent, David! Well done! As a scientist and Christ follower this is about exactly what I would say if I had your skill in making a video.
I hope many, many people, especially Christians get to hear this. ***
that's very kind of you Dauglas, we can be His witness in daily basis!
love you brother
As Father says we are not supposed to practice science.
Science was given to man by the fallen.
Well said.
Blessings upon you.
@@99sentcoins Explain why my people the Australian Aboriginal people have been doing land management science, astronomy for over 60,000 years , No god`s ever.
If christianity still had control over government's their would be no people of colour on the planet and lots of people burnt alive at the stake for superstition in the name of witchcraft.
Any one who claims they believe in god and science are a fraud. Science has no room for ignorance and superstition , Which is what religion is.
When people of religion do science they have to suspend their god belief's, Other wise science does not work.
@@99sentcoins
Many fathers were scientists and philosophers
Even when it comes to modern science, you need to read about people like:
- Georges Lemaître
- Gregor Mendel
- Nicolaus Capernicus (a canon)
- Giuseppe Mercalli
- Tadeusz Pacholczyk
- Bienvenido Nebres
- Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
You can find hundreds and hundreds of names
Dude, this really felt like a sermon. I needed to hear this.
Hello Mary
How are you doing today?
This video amazed me. I too feel science is form of worshiping God.
David, I enjoy a lot of your videos, especially the ones you've made about Islam. I share them with my Muslim friends and loved ones, but this one I have thoroughly enjoyed just for myself.
Thank you!
Great work!
17:05 "Majestic are the works of the Lord, those who delight in them study them."
I love this angel !!!
13:15 Jordan Peterson: "It's absolutely clear that the Universities themselves emerged out of the Monasteries! Oxford and Cambridge are Monasteries for all intents and purposes, and so the whole Universities idea emerged out of the church!"
I was praying last night asking G-D to teach me and correct me of how to think and view things and this popped up the next day. Glory be to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit 🕊🙏
Dear Brother, in CHRIST, here are two books that would be very beneficial: The One Year Devotions For Men, Stuart Briscoe
The Joyful Heart Daily Meditations, Watchman Nee ( Chinese " Paul " look up his bio - ministry 30 years - in Prison for 20 years, full of faith - check out his other books)
Oh - anything by Dr. Derek Prince; John Bevere; Dr. Sean McDowell; Dr. Jason Lisle; Dr. John Lennox
Testimony channels: Randy Kay, Precious Testimonies, Deliverance Down Under, 100huntley; Destiny Image; Delafe Testimonies; The 700 Club; The 700 Club Interactive
Worship: Is He Worthy - Shane and Shane ( Lyrics) The one with CHRIST'S picture.
On CHRIST Alone - Greatest Christian Song, Strongtower
Awesome GOD ( Worship Forever 2021 ) Michael W. Smith
Read John; Galatians and Ephesians
YOU ARE LOVED ❤
When I saw his early videos it was clear he wasn't a Christian, yet conservative and an evolutionist. So, this is cool to hear his journey of faith. What a great story about a man willing to change and stand for truth.
His atheist daughter is now a Christian as well. Looks like the whole family found Christ. Praise God!
@@mommyandxan When the father of a household becomes religious, 40% of the time, the rest of the family will follow.
@D-Bunker They've proven evolution? How? There is evidence proving macroevolution is 100%? Forgive me if I doubt your claim.
@D-Bunker Evolution maybe in the sense of animals, but not humans.
@D-Bunker I’m not sure what you’re getting at. I thought we were talking about David’s beliefs. I don’t think david believes in human evolution because that would go against the Genesis where man was created in God’s image.
I definitely need to watch the documentary. However, I just wanted to say thank you. I'm in grad school, and I'm honestly not the brightest (mostly my fault, not organize), and I get too distracted because, I lose passion for studying easily especially on classes that are not needed for my career path. The fact that learning science is Godly worship and is intrinsically good is honestly revolutionary to my ears. Again, thank you and God bless you Dr. Wood.
Thanks Ethan!
Asking why scientists believed in god .
Is like asking why the people who invented cars didn't rode cars them self. Yes many pioneer of the scientific revolution was believers. Because in that time science was still in it's infancy. Newton or bacon didn't knew anything about evolution did they. Also this is no excuse for all the scientific errors in the bible.
1. the universe was not made in 7 days ( genesis 1:1-31and exodus:20:8-12)
2. Stars can never fall down on earth ( Daniel:8:10, Matthew:24:29, Revelation:6:13)
3. Earth was not made before the universe ( genesis:1:14-19)
4. Earth does not have boundaries or ends ( job:38:13, Psalm :74;17, isiah:5:26)
5. The earth is not flat like clay under a seal (job:11:9,38:5,14)
6. The sun doesn't revolves around the earth ( Psalm:19:4-6)
7. The earth has no corner stones , pillars, foundations or supports ( 1 Sam:2;8, 2 Sam 22:16 , job:9:6, 38:4-6, Psalm:75:3, 82:5, Isaiah:24:18, 48;13, Jeremiah:31:37, Micah:6:2, Zechariah12:1)
8.the sky is not solid ( job:37;18).
9. Rainbows didn't begin in 2369 BCE ( genesis:9:13-17)
10. The first man wasn't made about 6000 years ago from dust ( genesis:1-27,2:7,3:19)
11. The first woman wasn't made from man's ribs ( genesis: 2:18;22)
12. The origin of Humans doesn't predate the vegetation and rain ( genesis:2:5-7)
13. Life evolved through evolution through natural selection god didn't do it ( genesis 1:20-25)
14. Human language didn't originate in the tower of Babel ( genesis:11:5-9 )
15 . And how can I forgot. The universe is not 6000 years old ( genesis:1:27,2:7,3:19) and ( Luke:3: the genelogy to Adam to Chris) which clearly depicts a universe which is only few thousands of years old .
16. Snow and hail isn't stored ( job:38:22-23)
17. The sea has no permanently fixed boundaries ( job:38:8-11) ( Jeremiah: 5:22)
18. The moon does not have light (Genesis 1-14:19) ( Isaiah:13:10, 30:26: 60:19)
19. Earth and it's geology features are in motion but the bible doesn't seem to know that. ( 1 Chronicles 16:30) ( psalm:65:6 )
20 . Animals aren't in subjection to humans ( genesis:1:26-27)
21. the flood of Noah never happened and can't happen ( Genesis: 6:9-8:19) . There's so much wrong with this fable that it is a miracle that people believe in it .
22 . There never were any angle human hybrid giants ( Genesis:6:4) . Now I am gonna ask a question that you people love to ask. Where are the fossils
23. There never was any firmament or canopy above the earth ( Genesis: 1:6-8, 8:2 )
24. Carnivores didn't originated as herbivores ( Genesis: 1:30)
We all know I haven't even scratch the surface. There are hundreds more which are major and unaccompanied errors. And there are thousands more which are minar errors but errors never the less. There is no chance that book that is rotten with enormous errors is the inspired word of God.
@@celestialsatheist1535 David accounts for this at the end of this video. If there is a conflict between Nature and the Bible, then our interpretation on one or both must change. For example, many of the passages you quoted are from poetic books (specifically Job, and even the first part of Genesis seems to be a different form of literature, not poetry per say, but likely a poetic introduction to the book). Poetic passages have much more room for interpretation, so Job 38:22-23 (snow and hail) could instead be referring to how God is in control of nature, rather than referring to actual store rooms. Every one of your issues have been addressed with this principle, in either changing the interpretation of Theology or Science.
@@celestialsatheist1535 You are missing the point I think.
It was because of their theology they attempted science, not in spite of it or because they had no alternatives.
The only vestige of that really left now is the faith that we can do the science and understand it.
@@jhoughjr1 in that time science was still in it's infancy. We didn't even know the age of the earth. You are not looking at the fool picture
After losing my parents I found myself in the scriptures more than ever. What had triggered my passion to do so? In my 50 years, growing up in a Cathorlic School, through the wavering, and back to the cornerstone of my life, I found Christ is everything. I see our creators "Thumb print" in everything, the more I read about things, nature, and technology, the more I see God's thumbprint in everything. From nerons, energy, our portioned functioning minds....the designs are so obvious. I have taken a closer look as well to the cultures and deversity in other countries, the beliefs, and perhaps how they may view the world from their perspectives. Indeed it was God's plan for us to be "fruitful" and "multipy". But the balance is something we should never get away from, we need bring the harmonious balance back into the world.
It's not the number of people thats the problem, it's their beliefs and behaviours.
@@owenduck yea it would appear he slid in the alarmist/environmentalist overpopulation lie in there
Seems like a coping mechanism you had trama so you adopt an ideology that promises you an imaginary friend eternal life and a sense of community
@@jimsteen911 it’s not a lie scientifically speaking our population should not be this big given the size of our planet
@@liamparkos7830 abiogenesis is the "imaginary friend".
Materialistic scientists do Not Know the origin and source of Life. Also, the source of consciousness.
I love the fact that David is tuned into what Jordan Peterson is doing.Peterson is one of the great minds of our time.
Right - well he IS learning after many decades of deadends and trust in the 'mind of man'...!
It's his real thinking his way back on the true track thru the chaos finally later in his life = revealing an honesty in pursuing and confronting real truth and this fearless approach is bringing him full circle out of "the wilderness" of tangled chaos that's in the world...!
He is playing a role of saying what you want to hear in most cases and inserting subversive thought according to plan. I.e. running cover for jewish influence, pushing the idea of "rugged individuality" to prevent people from organizing, etc.
JP has still too much pride and ego in him, which is holding him back from actual wisdom from gibberish
Peterson is a sophist who has jumped onto the Christian bandwagon, not out of faith, but out of personal relevance. He's not a Christian, he's exploiting Christianity. He will do no end of damage to Christianity, but what would you expect from the father of woke ideology, who sells self help books while on drugs, hates women, and has proclaimed the end of the world week after week.
No, he isn't a great mind. He is stealing from the great minds in history which can very easily read about. We already know historical Christian religious invented scientific method. JP didn't?? That is very educated! I'm sick of JP's ignorance in this area and trying to comment on it. It is ridiculous.. Let an educated Christian man of the cloth speak on this subject.
This video has been incredibly enlightening and educational with understanding both the religious and secular sides of the science debate. Love learning something new and wish I could have had this years ago to show both my uncle and brother.
This was a master class on the subject matter. I've studied this for decades, but you gave me several "aha" moments. Thank you so much for taking your time.
What is it you have *"studied for decades"* ?
What, your insights after studying this for decades were even worse?
Baptize as a baby, went a long to the Church as a young child, grew up with not much and lacking a father added a hole to my heart. In my teens I turned away from the Church, got myself into trouble, lusted after girls, leaving God to his own and finally ending up in jail for a stealing. It seem to me that my life was dark but I could not see any light but I felt a pull.. a pull that when I was teen asked why God didn't love me. 20 years later from my teens days, I meant a woman with a heart of gold and not like any other woman I have even met. I was working but I was angry and always felt alone but she didn't care. I could not understand what she liked about me, I was not in my best head. Yet, she stayed with me and we hung out, went to dinner and just hung out. I again felt this tug on me and my mind and soul told me to walk it the Church of my youth. I was scared but when I heard the scriptures, my heart ached with pain, my mind ran with thought and I felt like the Lord was speaking right to me. My heart beat fast and when I left, I thanked the Lord our God for not leaving me and allowing me to hear his voice. Today, that woman is my wife, we are Catholic and we both went on a Pilgrimage to the Holy Land... When I was there, the Lord kept on speaking to me and today as I write this I hear his voice and I get all the answers. I'm on a journey where I also now read the Latin Vulgate and now found your channel. Thank God for you, your knowledge and your sharing of his wisdom.
Wow! That's amazing 😊🙏💯
Glory be to Jesus and Mary 🙌
Wonderful story with a great outcome! God Bless You
Baptism has nothing to do with water or being dumped into a pool, its baptism of the spirit through the Holy Spirit. Also whatever water is mentioned in baptism besides John's baptism its talking about the everlasting water in Jesus not the water of the world.
@@user-fg6mq3dg3d nope
@@TalesfromSavanna I didnt ask for your opinion, I corrected him with the correct meaning of scripture.
As an engineer, I use maths all the time. It is a tool used in design and construction, used to understand how you expect things to work and will work out over time etc. It is a beautiful thing and absolutely a language can be used to describe how nature works.
By the way, I do like you conclusion.
Rick L. as a layman (high school education only) & a Christian, I have pondered the idea of language. Language is at times taken for granted. We speak it (in may different variations), we write it, we think it (even in our dreams). It is coded in our very DNA. Spoken/written comes from man's heart, which can be filled with lies. Mathematical language cannot lie (it's either right or it's incorrect)... from this thought I ponder this question. Is there a deeper philosophical meaning to mathematics, other than just "crunching numbers".
You will enjoy: The Mandel-Brot Set Shows GOD'S Mind, Dr. Jason Lisle
@zbucium I live in Australia (Sothern Hemisphere). We see the stars rotate clockwise around the Sothern axis of rotation which from Sydney, Australia is due South and 33.8° above the horizon, whereas people in the Northern Hemisphere see the stars rotate anticlockwise around the Northern axis of rotation.
Here we have summer from December to February due to the tilt of a spherical earth. And yes, Christmas is hot here.
*The earth is round. Get over it.*
Now as for seeing the lights from the island of Corsica, tell me what you know about refraction of light and temperature inversions caused by the sea being warmer than the air above it.
@@timsmith2357 *Mathematical language cannot lie* - but it can be misinterpreted, fudged, the wrong numbers inserted into the equation, etc. There is also the fact that we don’t understand all things and although we most of the equation, we don’t have all of it. It is a process. And we don’t have all the answers.
*Is there a deeper philosophical meaning to mathematics, other than just "crunching numbers"?* - There is a beauty about mathematics that goes beyond "crunching numbers". Have a look at a video called *“Atheists CANNOT Explain This Secret Code Seen in Creation”*
@zbucium You are really showing your ignorance.
Gyroscope on an aeroplane don't flip suddenly when traveling between the hemispheres, they slowly turn because the earth is spherical and not like a disk. And just by the way, a plane would have to go from the north pole to the south pole for the gyroscope to flip 180°.
All engineering projects that cover any real distance *DO* have to account for the curvature of the earth. Some of my projects did and that is a fact.
Eurotunnel between France and Great Britain *DID have to account for the curvature of the earth.*
Do some proper research if you are going to make broad based claims like these.
Hallelujah, ...you're back, Dr. Wood.
Missed your research and reasoning, and love that you've brought Dr. Peterson into the conversation. He, like you, deserve wide exposure!!
david wood is a liar
Lol. Peterson gets this thought from the atheist Nietzsche's part 1 of his "Will to Power."
I've never heard anything truly original out of Peterson
@@James-ll3jb Who are YOU to criticize ANYONE like Jordan Peterson?! Mankind has lived a long time, so, as His word tells us this in Ecclesiastes 1: 9 "That which has been is what will be, That which is done is what will be done, And there is nothing new under the sun." THAT is why Dr. Peterson hasn't had anything 'original' come out of him, silly man! But he puts it all together very succinctly!
@@GwenArlene8181 . He and I both have doctorates, have had papers and books published, and have tauggt at college level, albeit in different fields.
@@GwenArlene8181 ...
I think that his most recent difficulties have more to do with alleged unprofessional behavior than it does criticism of the government per se, doesn't it? I mean, "Poor people eat too much food" or "climate doesn't exist" aren't direct critiques of any government, are they?
I lost interest in what he is saying when I checked out his assertion that "lack of serotonin is the cause of depression"; it turns out there is no scientific basis for that whatsoever.
Then I looked into him further only to discover his claims, "I am an evolutionary biologist," and "I am a neuroscientist" to both be false: he's always only had a doctorate in cognitive psychology.
I've always intensely disliked and mistrusted paucity of intellectual integrity...
(..."There is a false saying: 'How can someone who cannot save himself save others?' Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?"
~ Friedrich Nietzsche)
Don't know why I clicked on a random video that CZcams suggested for me, but I can tell you that this made my morning. One of the best podcast that I have ever listened to.
Thanks alot Satama :P
Welcome aboard!
Look for David's testimony video "Why am I a Christian" or something like that. You're about to discover that you have found someone WAY more interesting then you thought.
40 minute video by David? I’M READY
Too bad it is filled with mistakes and misrepresentations...
@@MrGustavier can you explain?
@@bbhdd6181 I have a comment under this video in which I go into detail.
But the short version is : the reason why the scientific revolution is depicted as being against the church is because it was, Descartes, Pascal, Bacon, Boyle, all were listed on the "index librorum prohibitorum", which means they wrote books that were forbidden by the church.
If you read Bacon, you will see that he is very critical of Aristotle, who was the core of scholastics of the time, and embraced the outlook of Democritus, who was a pre-socratic materialist.
Bacon explains that no school of thought before him had come closer to explain nature than the ancient materialists... Which is one of the reason why the church was against him...
@@MrGustavier You dont know much of the catholic church. Every right thing, every saint , had oponents in church clergy, even big troubles. It is the way it has always been.
@@Tomi12123 Sure... I guess you would get even bigger problems if you decided to embrace the outlook of materialists...
"There are only two kinds of scientists: christians and heretical Christians."
Best quote of the day!
And wrong. Abbas ibn Firnas. Al-Farghani (Alfraganus). Ibn al-Haytham (Alhazen). Ibn al-Shatir. al-Zahrawi (Albucasis), just to name a few just on the Muslim side. Sir Chandrasekhara Venkata Raman (Nobel laureate). Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar (Nobel laureate, raised Hindu, declared atheist). Satyendra Nath Bose (famous for his collaborations with Einstein). Har Gobind Khorana (Nobel laureate). To name a miniscule amount. So Jordan Peterson can bugger his ignorant ass off and stop pretending he knows crap.
Surely this is nonsensical considering scientists all over the world. Are Buddhist, Muslim and Hindu scientists heretical Christians?
There were scientists in other cultures like in India or Asia that were neither Christians nor heretical Christians. They were Buddhists or Hindus.
Absolutely!
All those Greek and Islamic scientists must have been Christians then 🤔😂😂😂
So glad to see you back, it's been such a long time! Thank God for your clear explanation! You are an excellent teacher and defender of God's truth revealed in the Bible. Love what you are doing brother!!!
“But at the bottom of the cup, God is waiting”
This might be the best David Wood video I’ve seen in my life till date and there have been MANY MANY good ones! God bless you brother!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Agree . Thank you for this amazing piece .
Too bad it's fill with mistakes and misrepresentations...
@@MrGustavier an abdool muhammadan comment spotted
@@MrGustavier too bad you are just trolling. A real and honest comment would not just drop accusations like this without *any* supporting evidence. Hope you do find the truth one day.
After two near death experiences I discovered something that was always there but fear was hiding it from me. When facing death (perceived non-existence) and coming out the other side, fear of death goes away. Prior to this experience I was a seeker. After this experience my focus (natural desires) shifted to solutions, creativity, inventiveness, light heartedness and tremendous empathy towards humanity. Since I was no longer dealing with what I now call “core fear”, I could see in others how they are stuck where I once was.
Delusion maybe
Fear is delusion
@@YahwehJesus777 Fear is the mind killer...
So many people are afraid today
Not sure what you're describing. What was this 'coming out the other side' like? Or was that also 'perceived non-existence'?
I grew up with Jordan. He and I would go round and round in Biblical discussions. One time, we were on the same debate team. Prior to starting, he warned me not to use any Bible verses as my proofs for our team’s defense! It’s encouraging to see him struggling with the Creator!
This video needs to be shown in history classes around the world from elementary to collegiate education.
Which is EXACTLY why it won't be seen in the state-run schools. Truth has been replaced with satanic lies and those in charge of public education do not want God in the classroom. Thus the attacks by these witches disguised as teachers and schoolboard members attempting to silence parents via FBI harassment.
One thing that bothers me as a Christian is how come, God, did not add to the Bible anything related to modern scientific discoveries. Imagine if we would have a simple verse somewhere in Ecclesiastes or Job that would go like this: "do you know that man too was an animal ancient of times ago" or another verse that would say "from a life on the palm of your hand so small you cannot see, to distant stars so far away you cannot see, all grew from one and the same seed ancient of times ago"
These two simple verses would immediately, without any doubt, indicate Big Bang Cosmology and Evolution. Yet we have nothing like that found in the Bible and because of that when scientists began to discover, through science, the reality that the world is billions of years old or that life evolved, the Bible began to be less and less relevant in scientific circles.
@@nikokapanen82 The Bible doesn't speak on evolution simply because it doesn't teach it, it teaches we are a unique just like the others, we didn't just come about from monkeys. God made us a unique species after his own image.
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Scientifically, Evolution is a very well-understood process. Going against it is going against the foundations of science.
@@nikokapanen82 What kind of evolution, because there is no documented evidence of one species becoming another. There is such thing as adaptation which Charles Darwing very well documented but he was never able to prove his theory.
Good video, very effective speaker. One of the best I've ever heard, tone, inflection, pronunciation, proper and precise use of emphasis, just excellent. I'm a new subscriber now and I want to thank you for creating and sharing this very interesting work.
Glad it was helpful!
This is probably one of the most densely packed videos I've seen. There's so much information in this I'll have to watch it a few more times. :D
Thanks for the longer content, I'm able to listen to content while working and enjoy using that extra attention for God and apologetics so I always love to see these longer videos!
Asking why scientists believed in god .
Is like asking why the people who invented cars didn't rode cars them self. Yes many pioneer of the scientific revolution was believers. Because in that time science was still in it's infancy. Newton or bacon didn't knew anything about evolution did they. Also this is no excuse for all the scientific errors in the bible.
1. the universe was not made in 7 days ( genesis 1:1-31and exodus:20:8-12)
2. Stars can never fall down on earth ( Daniel:8:10, Matthew:24:29, Revelation:6:13)
3. Earth was not made before the universe ( genesis:1:14-19)
4. Earth does not have boundaries or ends ( job:38:13, Psalm :74;17, isiah:5:26)
5. The earth is not flat like clay under a seal (job:11:9,38:5,14)
6. The sun doesn't revolves around the earth ( Psalm:19:4-6)
7. The earth has no corner stones , pillars, foundations or supports ( 1 Sam:2;8, 2 Sam 22:16 , job:9:6, 38:4-6, Psalm:75:3, 82:5, Isaiah:24:18, 48;13, Jeremiah:31:37, Micah:6:2, Zechariah12:1)
8.the sky is not solid ( job:37;18).
9. Rainbows didn't begin in 2369 BCE ( genesis:9:13-17)
10. The first man wasn't made about 6000 years ago from dust ( genesis:1-27,2:7,3:19)
11. The first woman wasn't made from man's ribs ( genesis: 2:18;22)
12. The origin of Humans doesn't predate the vegetation and rain ( genesis:2:5-7)
13. Life evolved through evolution through natural selection god didn't do it ( genesis 1:20-25)
14. Human language didn't originate in the tower of Babel ( genesis:11:5-9 )
15 . And how can I forgot. The universe is not 6000 years old ( genesis:1:27,2:7,3:19) and ( Luke:3: the genelogy to Adam to Chris) which clearly depicts a universe which is only few thousands of years old .
16. Snow and hail isn't stored ( job:38:22-23)
17. The sea has no permanently fixed boundaries ( job:38:8-11) ( Jeremiah: 5:22)
18. The moon does not have light (Genesis 1-14:19) ( Isaiah:13:10, 30:26: 60:19)
19. Earth and it's geology features are in motion but the bible doesn't seem to know that. ( 1 Chronicles 16:30) ( psalm:65:6 )
20 . Animals aren't in subjection to humans ( genesis:1:26-27)
21. the flood of Noah never happened and can't happen ( Genesis: 6:9-8:19) . There's so much wrong with this fable that it is a miracle that people believe in it .
22 . There never were any angle human hybrid giants ( Genesis:6:4) . Now I am gonna ask a question that you people love to ask. Where are the fossils
23. There never was any firmament or canopy above the earth ( Genesis: 1:6-8, 8:2 )
24. Carnivores didn't originated as herbivores ( Genesis: 1:30)
We all know I haven't even scratch the surface. There are hundreds more which are major and unaccompanied errors. And there are thousands more which are minar errors but errors never the less. There is no chance that book that is rotten with enormous errors is the inspired word of God.
Thank you David so much for this video. My dad is an atheist and he loves science and math. He has spent much of his life studying both. I have tried to witness to him but he resists. This video will help me be able to speak him in his language
Does your dad push his beliefs onto you? Genuinely asking
I encourage you to tell your dad to read Francis Bacon, he will discover that Bacon's main inspiration is Democritus. An ancient greek Atomist... A materialist.
@@MrGustavier thank you, I will get him a book, any suggestions
@@malinaenright919 In _"On Principles and origins according to the fables of Cupid and Coelum"_ Bacon explains that _"almost all the ancients, Empedocles, Anaxagoras, Anaximenes, Heraclitus and Democritus, though differing in other respects about primary matter, were as one in maintaining that matter was active, had some form and imparted its form, and had the principle of motion within itself"_
Which means that Bacon doesn't need any "prime mover" or any god.
Bacon's book _"De dignitate et augmentis scientiarum libri IX"_ Is at the "Index Librorum Prohibitorum", which is a list of books that are forbidden by the church.
Bacon attacked Aristotle, who was at the basis of the church's theology at that time. Which is why is was considered heretical.
If you let your father read Bacon, he will understand that Bacon deeply embraces materialist thinkers of ancient Greece (Democritus). Which will probably strengthen his disbelief.
@@MrGustavier How is this relevant?
Very insightful, demands high listening and scholarly understanding, gratitude to Jordan for enlightening the world, it's not easy to set out against all odds👏💯
Jordan enlightening the world? LOL he's just grasping at straws, a high iq and a counselling career doesn't mean that he found out life's religious truths.
Do you think he will ever get around to enlightening himself?
@@br.m I see good intent and some bad. The good intent is that he tries to help others through his insights, the bad is that there's some hypocrisy in favouring Judaism and criticizing Islam, which may have to do with keeping up his status and preventing powerful ppl from opposing him, and bc there'll be Jewish ppl in his circle of intellectual friends. With the inertia he has in his looking for Western psychology to find solutions, I'm not holding my breath for him to set a next (spiritual) step. Maybe when he's much older.
The intent I mentioned is important because it's needed to increase knowledge.
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Well...there are no objective truths under atheism, so there's that.
@@Mark-pb4dn He insinuated once, talking about Jung, that he himself was not interested in messing around with the spiritual side. That you do that at your own peril. So, I don't think he'll ever do it.
Thank you, David, for bringing this amazing video to us.
Excellent commentary! Everyone should revisit these ideas if they have forgotten them. This is wisdom.
Too bad it's fill with mistakes and misrepresentations...
@@MrGustavier only a muslim abdool would answer this comment
This is a good one, well done
Isn't wonderful that God hided this to the brights, and revealed this to the poors.😆😆😅
Appreciate your work.
Well, what do we have here? I see your a man of fine taste, Dr.! Good to see you!
Outstanding video - clear, cogent and convincing. First time I have watched this channel and I look forward to watching this again and exploring other videos by the same presenter. Thank you David!
Welcome aboard!
@@bengreen171 I have seen nothing of the sort. Elaborate?
@@bengreen171 Please brother, read the title of this video.
Fathers of *modern science.* Empiricism, scientific method, repetitive experimentation, strive to know more whatever the cost.
Those in Ancient Greece thought they could "deduce" the world. They got many truths, but also many falsehoods.
The Arabs got stuck with the ancient Greco-Roman approach to philosophy (not worth calling science, I think). The Chinese were stuck to the abstract, and neglected the experimentation. The few Chinese that experimented, did it for a practical benefit (e.g. transmute gold) instead of for the sake of learning, which is an essential mentality for modern science.
The ones in the modern age are off-topic. But even then, up until the late 19th century, it was rare for someone that wasn't religious to get into science. It happened, but was rare. Among Catholics, the mentality of science to be a form of worship still persists in some form, with people like Georges Lemaître (physicist, professor and first proponent of the Big Bang Theory) being Catholic priests full stop, that ventured into science with the purpose to glorify God. But not like these are relevant, this video is about the ORIGINS of MODERN science.
The Fathers of modern science were all Christian. You're free to name one that wasn't, go ahead.
J Warner Wallace covered this in his book: "Person of Interest" which is something David Wood recommended.
David helped j Warner Wallace with some parts of that book. If I remember right, Wallace thanks David in the beginning of the book.
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David Wood, this is an awesome video. Extremely well presented. Obviously well researched and extremely informative. Thank you!
Too bad it is full of mistakes and misrepresentations...
@@MrGustavier How so?
@@stevealbert9054 I have a comment under this video in which I go into detail.
But the short version is : the reason why the scientific revolution is depicted as being against the church is because it was, Descartes, Gassendi, Pascal, Bacon, Boyle, all were listed on the "index librorum prohibitorum", which means they wrote books that were forbidden by the church.
If you read Bacon, you will see that he is very critical of Aristotle, who was the core of scholastics of the time, and embraced the outlook of Democritus, who was a pre-socratic materialist.
Bacon explains that no school of thought before him had come closer to explain nature than the ancient materialists... Which is one of the reason why the church was against him...
The mechanistic model and the corpuscular theory, which were at the basis of the scientific revolution (see Galileo), are both taken directly from the ancient school of Leucippus, which is materialism... That's why it is "against the church".
@@okokok7446 Proof of what ? Misrepresentations in the video ? I did above.
@@MrGustavier however, there are major Gaps in the scientific community.
Materialistic scientists do Not Know the origin and source of Life (living organisms). Also, the origin of consciousness.
One of my favorite videos of all time from David, thank you 🥳
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amen! We stand on the shoulders of giants before us, who studied God's Word & His works. Thank you Mark Wood.
Great effort. God bless David Wood and his family.
Yes… the effort makes it!
Excellent video, much needed to be known by the masses!
Glad it was helpful!
It is so good to have you back and doing what the Lord has so clearly called you to do.
Wow, this is epic! Very cogently argued. Excellent video! Thank you, David!
Too bad it's fill with mistakes and misrepresentations...
One of the men in Jordan Peterson's Logos and Literacy doumentary (Vishal Mangalwadi) has very good books on how the Bible changed everything.
Anyone interested in this topic should read them : The book that made your world and This book changed everything.
Really in depth, good job man. Ill be subscribing to watch more, God bless and take care.
Too bad it's filled with mistakes and misrepresentations...
One of your best videos ever David. Thank you.
Too bad it is full of mistakes and misrepresentations...
Thanks! To absorb this thoroughly I will have to watch multiple times!
Glad it's helpful!
David, thank you for making this excellent video! Im incredibly encouraged! Not only am I reading Francis Schaeffer’s Escape from Reality right now, but I’m also researching Francis Bacon for a research project my son and I are working on together. And praying about what God wants me to do with it all…lol. And then there’s this video uploaded today… Again amazing. Thank you again!
I believe that F. Schaefer was a Calvinist, and Calvinism is heresy. Please look into it.
The Augustinian Foundation for Calvinism, Dr. Ken Wilson ( Oxford Scholar on the subject)
Asking why scientists believed in god .
Is like asking why the people who invented cars didn't rode cars them self. Yes many pioneer of the scientific revolution was believers. Because in that time science was still in it's infancy. Newton or bacon didn't knew anything about evolution did they. Also this is no excuse for all the scientific errors in the bible.
1. the universe was not made in 7 days ( genesis 1:1-31and exodus:20:8-12)
2. Stars can never fall down on earth ( Daniel:8:10, Matthew:24:29, Revelation:6:13)
3. Earth was not made before the universe ( genesis:1:14-19)
4. Earth does not have boundaries or ends ( job:38:13, Psalm :74;17, isiah:5:26)
5. The earth is not flat like clay under a seal (job:11:9,38:5,14)
6. The sun doesn't revolves around the earth ( Psalm:19:4-6)
7. The earth has no corner stones , pillars, foundations or supports ( 1 Sam:2;8, 2 Sam 22:16 , job:9:6, 38:4-6, Psalm:75:3, 82:5, Isaiah:24:18, 48;13, Jeremiah:31:37, Micah:6:2, Zechariah12:1)
8.the sky is not solid ( job:37;18).
9. Rainbows didn't begin in 2369 BCE ( genesis:9:13-17)
10. The first man wasn't made about 6000 years ago from dust ( genesis:1-27,2:7,3:19)
11. The first woman wasn't made from man's ribs ( genesis: 2:18;22)
12. The origin of Humans doesn't predate the vegetation and rain ( genesis:2:5-7)
13. Life evolved through evolution through natural selection god didn't do it ( genesis 1:20-25)
14. Human language didn't originate in the tower of Babel ( genesis:11:5-9 )
15 . And how can I forgot. The universe is not 6000 years old ( genesis:1:27,2:7,3:19) and ( Luke:3: the genelogy to Adam to Chris) which clearly depicts a universe which is only few thousands of years old .
16. Snow and hail isn't stored ( job:38:22-23)
17. The sea has no permanently fixed boundaries ( job:38:8-11) ( Jeremiah: 5:22)
18. The moon does not have light (Genesis 1-14:19) ( Isaiah:13:10, 30:26: 60:19)
19. Earth and it's geology features are in motion but the bible doesn't seem to know that. ( 1 Chronicles 16:30) ( psalm:65:6 )
20 . Animals aren't in subjection to humans ( genesis:1:26-27)
21. the flood of Noah never happened and can't happen ( Genesis: 6:9-8:19) . There's so much wrong with this fable that it is a miracle that people believe in it .
22 . There never were any angle human hybrid giants ( Genesis:6:4) . Now I am gonna ask a question that you people love to ask. Where are the fossils
23. There never was any firmament or canopy above the earth ( Genesis: 1:6-8, 8:2 )
24. Carnivores didn't originated as herbivores ( Genesis: 1:30)
We all know I haven't even scratch the surface. There are hundreds more which are major and unaccompanied errors. And there are thousands more which are minar errors but errors never the less. There is no chance that book that is rotten with enormous errors is the inspired word of God.
Spamming the same reply onto every single comment doesn't make you smart; if anything, it implies the opposite.
@@cindyweatherly4501 Martin Luther was Augustinian too. Look up the video titled "The Forerunners of the Reformation"by Dr. Scott Hahn. Very insightful.
Don't become Catholic while researching those guys. Faith and Reason (as opposed to Fideism) will make you want to cross the Tiber. 😋😋
Thank you so much for this video, it was so interesting and educational. And I am 70 years old and still trying to learn God.
Too bad it's filled with mistakes and misrepresentations...
@@MrGustavier You should be humble enough to watch the video again and again. May God bless you with His wisdom and humility!
@@yhalee345 I did watch it *"again and again"* ... Weirdly enough the same mistakes and misrepresentations keep appearing again and again...
@@MrGustavier cause you’re hearing it and understanding it wrong
@@wesleyjakesta4095 *-"cause you’re hearing it and understanding it wrong"*
That is always a possibility yes. However I wish someone would explain where I make my mistake then.
I appreciate this guy so much, idk how you do such long, articulate speeches to a camera with no editing or stumbling
Stephen Meyer, as a professor of the Philosophy of Science, has written extensively on this topic in several of his most recent publications.
I was just thinking how it would be good to dive a little deeper into knowing the Christian suppositions of the scientific revolution. Thank you for making this video - it's just what I was looking for.
He's not telling you the whole truth so don't believe him Back in the days the church looked at science but look at science as devil worshipping and killed a lot of people for doing
@@davidspearim5552 Sure, if you could please point to any historical documentation to support that the church looked at science as devil worship I'd be interested to know - sincerely. Only actual historical documents, please, as I find contemporary representations of history tend to be far off track and not supported by historical evidence. Many thanks.
Islam is the religion who makes us to Believe in Jesus,
We Muslims 100% Believes in Jesus,
We Muslims Believes that Jesus is the Christ,
We Muslims Believes that Jesus will Come Again to this World,
Jesus did Miracles by the Permission of Allah,
Jesus himself Never said “Im God” also Never he said anyone to “Worship Me”
Jesus was Just a Prophet and Messenger Of Allah Only to Guide The People of Israel,
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*Jesus Denies Being God* | Read ⬇️
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"My Father is greater than me." [John 14:28]
“I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to My God and your God.” [John 20:17]
“Jesus said: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” [Mark 12:29]
“Jesus, Fell with his face to the ground and Prayed.” [Matthew 26:39]
“Jesus said, “My teaching is not my own,
It comes from the one who has sent me.”
[John 7:16]
“I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father who has sent me." [John 5:30]
“The crowd answered, This is Jesus, the Prophet.” [Matthew 21:10-11]
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*The Coming Of Prophet Muhammad In Bible*
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“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When he the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come, He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you.” [John 16:12-14]
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*Allah Clears About Jesus*
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[Quran:- 5:72]:-
“Jesus has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord."
[Quran:- 19:30]:-
“Jesus has said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet.”
[Quran:- 4:171]:-
“Christ Jesus the son of Mary was no more than a messenger of Allah, So believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah:
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@@StephenJahn Bacon himself. Read Francis Bacon. Francis Bacon is on the "index librorum prohibitorum", which means he wrote a book which was forbidden by the church. Bacon critiqued Aristotle, discarded his "formal" and his "final" cause, to embrace the outlook of the school of Leucippus, and its student Democritus, which was a school of materialists...
Why do you think historians depict the scientific revolution as being against the church ?
Descartes, Pascal, Bacon, Boyle, they were all on the "index librorum prohibitorum", they were all targets of the church...
@Stephen Jahn If you look up which scientists were killed by the church or punished it will say why cause why does they believe that's they believed that science was heresy They still do believe that science is against God And you don't need it only need faith
So I asked one of them why would a All-powerful sky daddy All-powerful sky daddy create us so we can suck his metaphorical dick But he created us with free will you know how contradicting that is And we get punished for an acting that free will
Most atheistic scientists don't believe in a creator because they simply don't want to....It's too much of a hit to their ego .
Ego and pride.
“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”
-Werner Heisenberg
LOL....absolutely is the case normally for honest people willing to gain and use their "EARS TO HEAR"...!
At 15 I stopped at the threshold of my Faith and the seeming delusion of speculated suppositions "said to be science" but did not line up with Gods Word...!
It was in realizing then that where the rubber met the road would be in "origins" = Life was either accidental or Created...!
It was then in my Environmental Major study's where my pot belly'd 4 credit hr course Phd Cornell professor got down to it explaining to us his taught and passed on belief in "the origins of life"...!
It took him all of 2 minutes to explain that ~
"science figures that chemicals washed together in an ancient sea where the first living cell emerged - then evolution took over"
I'd then easily figured for myself later that day by Probability and Statistical Analysis that this was UTTERLY IMPOSSIBLE to any thinking mind and in true fashion equated to what I was taught in medieval times as 'spontaneous generation'...!
That being opposed to "Immaculate Conception" could not be both nor a combination and in realizing the utter stupidity in this of so the called "learned men of science meant everything after the impossibilty of 'accidental life' hd to be majorly flawed...!
But these were "advanced societal leaders in science" how could it be...!
Then it took my personal quest for real answers over time that brought to Light both the Godly truths of real science and the intentional disimformation imbedded into higher learning; esp as with historical & political truths by massive ommissions...!
It was "who controlled the kingdoms of this world" and esp the monetary control with its "filthy lucre" being the "Love of money is the root of all Evil" easily buying allegiances where needed to own mankind...!
ie = the owned Globalist Bankster cabal or "Unseen Hand" orchestrating it all out of sight and mind of everyday people in everyday life...!
"They're now monetarily worth by fiat Quadrillions of dollars" esp in ill gotten worldwide assets and control of Kings & Kingdoms and nations of the world all run by their systems as they require them to be IF the selected and installedvpuppets wish the continued monetary blessing of good, great or huge salary's, perks and grants with unlimited benefits to do only as directed from suceeding rings up to the inner circle which then is controller by he who offered all the kingdoms of the world to a 30yr old Jesus who was starving after 40 days of fasting likely at the weakest point upnto that point in His life...!
The rest is the unfolding of His ministry, His New Covenant and the New Testament then written by His Apostles in the battle for the hearts, minds and soul of mankind still in progress as His command to preach the Gospel went and now is worldwide tho ths Darkside has never stopped esp seen in the advent of RCC - Islam + then Atheist MarXist Communism cloaked in Govmint Socialism as well as blatant materialism all leading to disrespect for Life once it was bury'd in Humanistic Hedonism's warped immoral unfolding as openly seen today...!
The only way "FORWARD" is in a Christ centered ~
" 3rd Great Awakening "
Both "Logos & Literacy" and this particular David Wood's video are mind blowing.
This guy is quickly becoming my favorite CZcamsr, awesome job with the responses!
Dave’s videos aren’t usually this long but this one is a long video for a reason!👏😇
30s in and I'm already laughing :-) always good to see you David. you're a ray of sunshine in those dark times ;-)
"Ray of sunshine" pretty much sums up my life!
@@apologeticsroadshow 💀The fact that I know your tone makes it even funnier.
I think it would be interesting if you David and Dr Peterson sat down and had a lengthy video chat in person.
He who thinks half heartedly will not believe in God, but he who really thinks, has to believe in God...
Issac Newton
You have a reliable reference for this quote?
If Newton was alive today he’d almost certainly be an atheist.
@@SuperEdge67 indeed. The percentage of theist scientists has declined dramatically since the 18th century for a variety of reasons, one of the main ones being Darwin’s purely natural explanation for the astounding biodiversity we have on earth.
@@shankz8854 It wasn’t until the 1920s that scientists even realised there were other galaxies outside the Milky Way. Previously astronomers had identified the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds and Andromeda but didn’t understand what they were. Not only is Earth insignificant, the entire Milky Way is insignificant , and just one of hundreds of billions of galaxies.
@@SuperEdge67 lol is that what you atheists tell yourselves to make yourselves feel better? Too bad you have no actual evidence of that. It's just your butthurt atheist fee fees spewing nonsense as you all always do. Newton was a logical person. There is absolutely nothing logical about atheism. It's just stupid. So yeah, I call BS on your butthurt claim, atheist. You don't get to just make stuff up like that and pass it off as a fact without any actual evidence to back it up.. It's merely your opinion, nothing more. Your very butthurt opinion lol.
As a child I knew very little(as I look backward in life) yet my parents and others gave me the knowledge they possessed in their world.
I see now their knowledge was limited to their life experiences as I have learned with my life.
Now being 80 years old, I cannot even imagine the things God will give to the minds of my children and their children. Yet it is my concern they will not know all I have learned and experienced.
That as I know a Great personal God that has showed me His presents.
I can only rely on Him.
This is the best one. I’ve never heard of it explained this way. Thanks &God bless.
Another good book on the subject of how Christianity led to the scientific revolution and the whole rise of western civilization is Rodney Stark's "How the West Won".
I would also recommend "Victory of Reason" from the same author.
David it's great to see you again. Always love your work.
"He is before all things, and in him all things hold together." (Colossians 1:17)
I love your channel my friend, what blessing it is!
Glad you enjoy it!
The first two minutes into this video, I subscribed!
Looking forward to more interesting communication.
This was by far the best video if watch of you (I found you while trying to make sense of Islam, moahmed, etc.)
I'm a Christian. You summarised the link between Christianity and science in a way the most sceptics can understand.
Mr. Peterson could what this clip.
I'll point it out to him. 😊
When I speak to someone who is a naturalist or evolutionist and ask them why we evolved the way we did, they will tell me "Because it was for the good of the species." So I then say, "So then you would agree that abortion and homosexuality is wrong, because they don't help the species advance." Yeah, people don't seem to like me too much when I make logical comments.
LOL I'm gonna use that. God bless you😊
*-"Why did we evolved the way we did ?"*
Thanks to the selective pressures in our environment.
Good to see you again on CZcams. God gave you a gift that's really shining in videos. Hope you continue providing videos. God bless you!
It could be argued that the main if not the only motivation for the invention of written language was the want to formalize religious texts lest they become corrupted over time and to help keep people singing from a similar hymn sheet, so to speak. Also that these religious texts soon became the main motivation for others to learn how to read them. Otherwise, education itself would have either been greatly held back or still not really gotten off the ground.
IMO, Sir Francis Bacon was not only the greatest thinker of his age but of All Ages. However, his writings contain a dire warning. He discussed the very real possibility of corrupted science. When science is used against the interests of man, not in his interests.
IMO, science has been progressively corrupted by Atheists who don't seek to emulate God but to completely replace him with their exclusive one-will vision for humanity. This abomination has gone under a variety of names however the most commonly used are, Socialism, Fascism, and Communism. This has now matured to the point where all governments are now operating under one of these systems of control to a great or greater extent. The word of God does not even dominate in what is called theocratic states these days.
To prevent this from happening Sir Francis put forward the concept of what later became the Royal Society. However, it has now come to pass that even this has also become utterly corrupted by atheistic, or materialist dogma, some know as scientism. Bacon strongly advised us to avoid all 'isms, this being the very hallmark of corrupted science.
EXCELLENT WORD on the unfolding before us...!
Thank you brother David . Keep contending earnestly for the faith.🙏🏾
This is exactly what I wanted to know but I didn’t think I was smart enough to figure out. I’m also lazy, but this will help me tremendously. Thank you. Some of the great minds in history were atheist, and some were not. Being able to read someone diary or biography really helps get to know someone other than only knowing the things they did.
Asking why scientists believed in god .
Is like asking why the people who invented cars didn't rode cars them self. Yes many pioneer of the scientific revolution was believers. Because in that time science was still in it's infancy. Newton or bacon didn't knew anything about evolution did they. Also this is no excuse for all the scientific errors in the bible.
1. the universe was not made in 7 days ( genesis 1:1-31and exodus:20:8-12)
2. Stars can never fall down on earth ( Daniel:8:10, Matthew:24:29, Revelation:6:13)
3. Earth was not made before the universe ( genesis:1:14-19)
4. Earth does not have boundaries or ends ( job:38:13, Psalm :74;17, isiah:5:26)
5. The earth is not flat like clay under a seal (job:11:9,38:5,14)
6. The sun doesn't revolves around the earth ( Psalm:19:4-6)
7. The earth has no corner stones , pillars, foundations or supports ( 1 Sam:2;8, 2 Sam 22:16 , job:9:6, 38:4-6, Psalm:75:3, 82:5, Isaiah:24:18, 48;13, Jeremiah:31:37, Micah:6:2, Zechariah12:1)
8.the sky is not solid ( job:37;18).
9. Rainbows didn't begin in 2369 BCE ( genesis:9:13-17)
10. The first man wasn't made about 6000 years ago from dust ( genesis:1-27,2:7,3:19)
11. The first woman wasn't made from man's ribs ( genesis: 2:18;22)
12. The origin of Humans doesn't predate the vegetation and rain ( genesis:2:5-7)
13. Life evolved through evolution through natural selection god didn't do it ( genesis 1:20-25)
14. Human language didn't originate in the tower of Babel ( genesis:11:5-9 )
15 . And how can I forgot. The universe is not 6000 years old ( genesis:1:27,2:7,3:19) and ( Luke:3: the genelogy to Adam to Chris) which clearly depicts a universe which is only few thousands of years old .
16. Snow and hail isn't stored ( job:38:22-23)
17. The sea has no permanently fixed boundaries ( job:38:8-11) ( Jeremiah: 5:22)
18. The moon does not have light (Genesis 1-14:19) ( Isaiah:13:10, 30:26: 60:19)
19. Earth and it's geology features are in motion but the bible doesn't seem to know that. ( 1 Chronicles 16:30) ( psalm:65:6 )
20 . Animals aren't in subjection to humans ( genesis:1:26-27)
21. the flood of Noah never happened and can't happen ( Genesis: 6:9-8:19) . There's so much wrong with this fable that it is a miracle that people believe in it .
22 . There never were any angle human hybrid giants ( Genesis:6:4) . Now I am gonna ask a question that you people love to ask. Where are the fossils
23. There never was any firmament or canopy above the earth ( Genesis: 1:6-8, 8:2 )
24. Carnivores didn't originated as herbivores ( Genesis: 1:30)
We all know I haven't even scratch the surface. There are hundreds more which are major and unaccompanied errors. And there are thousands more which are minar errors but errors never the less. There is no chance that book that is rotten with enormous errors is the inspired word of God.
@@celestialsatheist1535 You didn't watch the video, it seems...
@@andres.e. With that sort of statement, it seems you're having a basic expectation of an Atheist to actually be intellectually honest and not use a confirmation bias on everything in regards to Atheism, science, religion etc. Only a fool has those sort of expectations for a modern day Atheist. Most of them don't even understand the basic foundations of their own belief.
@@celestialsatheist1535 You are only "proving wrong" your own understanding of the Biblical text.
@@kamixakadio2441atheism doesn’t necessarily entail a positive truth claim like theism does. So I would say it’s more of an issue for theists to not understand the basis of their belief, which they often do.
So glad you're back, really made my day
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One of your best, David.
Blessings and love to you and your family.
Too bad it's fill with mistakes and misrepresentations...
I'm so happy as a pastor to see this confirmed to the world. Thank you
Too bad the video is filled with mistakes and misrepresentations...
@@MrGustavier well don't leave us all wondering...Please point them out
@@sandman1133 I have a comment under this video in which I go into detail regarding the philosophical claims.
Regarding the historical claims : the reason why the scientific revolution is depicted as being against the church is because it was. Galileo, Copernicus, Descartes, Pascal, Bacon, Boyle, all were listed on the "index librorum prohibitorum", which means they wrote books that were forbidden by the church.
If you read Bacon, you will see that he is very critical of Aristotle, who was the core of scholastics of the time, and embraced the outlook of Democritus, who was a pre-socratic materialist.
Bacon explains that no school of thought had come closer to accurately describe nature than the ancient materialists... Which is one of the reason why the church was against him...
The mechanistic model (Descartes, Gassendi, Newton) and the corpuscular theory (Galileo, Bacon, Boyle), are both inspired by the ancient school of Leucippus, which is materialism... That's why it is "against the church".
@@MrGustavier although very interesting your comment isn't much of a criticism of what was stated in the clip. Could you instead quote what you find to be the inaccurate statements and rebut them one by one? Also I searched for your comment pretty far down in the comment section and didn't run upon it...but I'll try again
@@MrGustavier I mean many great minds who claimed to be materialists or the like we're quoted as saying there is something more that isn't or can't be explained by science. Einstein was believed to be an atheist because he is quoted as saying Christianity is childish but also claimed to believe Spinoza's god. That in itself would be rejected by the church.
having been a fan of F. Schaeffer (Escape from Reason being a fundamental book of astounding importance after my atheism), and having degrees in theology and philosophy...it seems all to seldom that I encounter a new concept..or novel one which has refreshing power. Your presentation of the relation between 'works' (as in Romans)...and scientific progress, just set me to stunned realization...thank you.
Thank you Brother. As always quite valuable. The first message the Holy Spirit ever sent me was that there is no coincidence, karma, happenstance, or luck in our Lord's universe.
Asking why scientists believed in god .
Is like asking why the people who invented cars didn't rode cars them self. Yes many pioneer of the scientific revolution was believers. Because in that time science was still in it's infancy. Newton or bacon didn't knew anything about evolution did they. Also this is no excuse for all the scientific errors in the bible.
1. the universe was not made in 7 days ( genesis 1:1-31and exodus:20:8-12)
2. Stars can never fall down on earth ( Daniel:8:10, Matthew:24:29, Revelation:6:13)
3. Earth was not made before the universe ( genesis:1:14-19)
4. Earth does not have boundaries or ends ( job:38:13, Psalm :74;17, isiah:5:26)
5. The earth is not flat like clay under a seal (job:11:9,38:5,14)
6. The sun doesn't revolves around the earth ( Psalm:19:4-6)
7. The earth has no corner stones , pillars, foundations or supports ( 1 Sam:2;8, 2 Sam 22:16 , job:9:6, 38:4-6, Psalm:75:3, 82:5, Isaiah:24:18, 48;13, Jeremiah:31:37, Micah:6:2, Zechariah12:1)
8.the sky is not solid ( job:37;18).
9. Rainbows didn't begin in 2369 BCE ( genesis:9:13-17)
10. The first man wasn't made about 6000 years ago from dust ( genesis:1-27,2:7,3:19)
11. The first woman wasn't made from man's ribs ( genesis: 2:18;22)
12. The origin of Humans doesn't predate the vegetation and rain ( genesis:2:5-7)
13. Life evolved through evolution through natural selection god didn't do it ( genesis 1:20-25)
14. Human language didn't originate in the tower of Babel ( genesis:11:5-9 )
15 . And how can I forgot. The universe is not 6000 years old ( genesis:1:27,2:7,3:19) and ( Luke:3: the genelogy to Adam to Chris) which clearly depicts a universe which is only few thousands of years old .
16. Snow and hail isn't stored ( job:38:22-23)
17. The sea has no permanently fixed boundaries ( job:38:8-11) ( Jeremiah: 5:22)
18. The moon does not have light (Genesis 1-14:19) ( Isaiah:13:10, 30:26: 60:19)
19. Earth and it's geology features are in motion but the bible doesn't seem to know that. ( 1 Chronicles 16:30) ( psalm:65:6 )
20 . Animals aren't in subjection to humans ( genesis:1:26-27)
21. the flood of Noah never happened and can't happen ( Genesis: 6:9-8:19) . There's so much wrong with this fable that it is a miracle that people believe in it .
22 . There never were any angle human hybrid giants ( Genesis:6:4) . Now I am gonna ask a question that you people love to ask. Where are the fossils
23. There never was any firmament or canopy above the earth ( Genesis: 1:6-8, 8:2 )
24. Carnivores didn't originated as herbivores ( Genesis: 1:30)
We all know I haven't even scratch the surface. There are hundreds more which are major and unaccompanied errors. And there are thousands more which are minar errors but errors never the less. There is no chance that book that is rotten with enormous errors is the inspired word of God.
@@celestialsatheist1535 thanks for the type up, all your points are scientific mythology. Our Lord is also the Lord of history and science; evolution and big bang are false, order cannot arise from chaos. Evolution and BB fail the scientific method because it cannot be tested, when darwin was alive he was unaware of DNA science, which disproves the myth of evolution
@@stuntman083 You are utterly clueless.
Evolution is the center point for all of biology. And yeah Darwin didn't knew anything about DNA as the same newton didn't knew anything about quantum physics
If Darwin knew about DNA than he be happy. Because DNA undoubtedly proves evolution. We share 98 percentage of our DNA with chimps. And by useing protein sequence technology we can pin point the time when we shared a evolutionary form . DNA evidence is the absolute proof of evolution.
And you don't know anything about the scientific method. It's about to ba able to observe the evidence not the event it self. The Cosmic microwave background is the absolute proof of big bang.
I listed the flat earth in my list.
Is the spherical earth also a myth.
You people are clueless
Calling evolution myth over Adam and eve is the most hilarious thing ever
@@celestialsatheist1535 there are plenty of biologists that say evolution is mathematically impossible. Staring at dna sequence doesn't prove anything other than complex life can't randomly become complex and functional. All the myths you are referring to are ancient gnostics heresies that have been renamed and repackage. Evolution is a religion that requires belief and no proof
@@stuntman083 evolution is the center of biology. You are resisting the reality
The BIBLE is the foundation of wisdom.
@@dibosh7405 aw😂😍
She's really beautiful 😍
Yes it is, and these guys need to be more respectful.
Bruh this is one of the best videos i’ve ever seen
I noted Dave’s ministry many years ago and am so joyful of another answered prayer .
David, can you make a video called 'What if Muhammad made it into the Book of Kings?' Because I read the book of Kings, and I noticed that Muhammad is guilty of all the sins of the disobedient kings that were seen as evil. He delivered demonic prophecies to prove he was a false prophet, he engaged in polytheism, thus setting up 2 golden calves in his land (sins of Jeroboam), he did things to Aisha that would be labeled as "an ABOMINATION to God", and much, much more. So, I would like to see a video by you on the topic: 'What if Muhammad made it into the Book of Kings?' Because if he did, I think it is a fair bet that he would have been written as one of the worst kings in the book, who was disloyal to God's commandments for Israel, and caused the Israel to sin.
That's actually pretty interesting
@@alyzahs Thanks. 😀
Funny for even written by another writer theologian that Muhammad was an Anti-christ. But looking at what 666 truly means it makes sense. 🙏🕊
Aisha was essentially 'betrothed' to Muhammad, a practice that was extremely common across Christian Europe until just a couple centuries ago. e.g. Queen Catherine (of Argon) was betrothed to Prince Arthur at THREE years of age. Hundreds more examples. That does not mean he was having sex with her before the customary age of marriage/consent.
@@deeder001 That's crap. In Medieval Europe, the man and woman would both have to say "I do" for the marriage to be consummated, unlike in Islam where the woman has no say in the matter, and is literally viewed as her father and husband's property. In Medieval Europe, the man and woman had to be over the age of 13 and have gone through puberty in order to be married, where under Islamic law, the man can be in his 40's while the "wife" is 9 years old as was in the case of Muhammad and Aisha. In Islam, the woman must submit to the sexual desires of her husband while she is still prepubescent, even if her sexual organs are ruptured by the act. Furthermore, the example you use is of a noblewoman (Catherine of Argon), and the elite had seperate rules for marriage than commoners, so examples of marriage in the elite of Medieval Europe doesn't really represent marriage in the common class. Commoners and members of the Elite were not allowed to intermarry, so that rules out the possibility of child marriage in average Medieval Christian households.
The world wasn't perfect back then, and I'm not trying to defend the barbaric practices of Medieval Europeans, but then again, the Muslims are still engaging in so called "medieval barbaric practices" (If you can even call it a Medieval practice) such as child marriage, slavery, terrorism, among other barbarism like dropping homosexuals off of rooftops and forcing women to pray in seperate sections of mosques than men. Muhammad does not advocate his followers to forgive and love one other like Jesus does, and that is the central difference between the two religions. This is why Christendom succeeded in history while Islam fell behind.
This is such a good work David!! Is there an essay you published to accompany this video? I’d love to print share your well articulated and referenced arguments beyond CZcams if possible
No.
One of the coolest things about learning quantum mechanics as a Christian, is that the feel of how small particles are positioned and moved is much the same feeling that one gets trying to understand the Trinity.
As St Paul said, ‘Test everything, keep what is true’. I think I’ll frame that for my lab
I love your analytical mind, David... More please 😊
Asking why scientists believed in god .
Is like asking why the people who invented cars didn't rode cars them self. Yes many pioneer of the scientific revolution was believers. Because in that time science was still in it's infancy. Newton or bacon didn't knew anything about evolution did they. Also this is no excuse for all the scientific errors in the bible.
1. the universe was not made in 7 days ( genesis 1:1-31and exodus:20:8-12)
2. Stars can never fall down on earth ( Daniel:8:10, Matthew:24:29, Revelation:6:13)
3. Earth was not made before the universe ( genesis:1:14-19)
4. Earth does not have boundaries or ends ( job:38:13, Psalm :74;17, isiah:5:26)
5. The earth is not flat like clay under a seal (job:11:9,38:5,14)
6. The sun doesn't revolves around the earth ( Psalm:19:4-6)
7. The earth has no corner stones , pillars, foundations or supports ( 1 Sam:2;8, 2 Sam 22:16 , job:9:6, 38:4-6, Psalm:75:3, 82:5, Isaiah:24:18, 48;13, Jeremiah:31:37, Micah:6:2, Zechariah12:1)
8.the sky is not solid ( job:37;18).
9. Rainbows didn't begin in 2369 BCE ( genesis:9:13-17)
10. The first man wasn't made about 6000 years ago from dust ( genesis:1-27,2:7,3:19)
11. The first woman wasn't made from man's ribs ( genesis: 2:18;22)
12. The origin of Humans doesn't predate the vegetation and rain ( genesis:2:5-7)
13. Life evolved through evolution through natural selection god didn't do it ( genesis 1:20-25)
14. Human language didn't originate in the tower of Babel ( genesis:11:5-9 )
15 . And how can I forgot. The universe is not 6000 years old ( genesis:1:27,2:7,3:19) and ( Luke:3: the genelogy to Adam to Chris) which clearly depicts a universe which is only few thousands of years old .
16. Snow and hail isn't stored ( job:38:22-23)
17. The sea has no permanently fixed boundaries ( job:38:8-11) ( Jeremiah: 5:22)
18. The moon does not have light (Genesis 1-14:19) ( Isaiah:13:10, 30:26: 60:19)
19. Earth and it's geology features are in motion but the bible doesn't seem to know that. ( 1 Chronicles 16:30) ( psalm:65:6 )
20 . Animals aren't in subjection to humans ( genesis:1:26-27)
21. the flood of Noah never happened and can't happen ( Genesis: 6:9-8:19) . There's so much wrong with this fable that it is a miracle that people believe in it .
22 . There never were any angle human hybrid giants ( Genesis:6:4) . Now I am gonna ask a question that you people love to ask. Where are the fossils
23. There never was any firmament or canopy above the earth ( Genesis: 1:6-8, 8:2 )
24. Carnivores didn't originated as herbivores ( Genesis: 1:30)
We all know I haven't even scratch the surface. There are hundreds more which are major and unaccompanied errors. And there are thousands more which are minar errors but errors never the less. There is no chance that book that is rotten with enormous errors is the inspired word of God.
@@celestialsatheist1535 could you give evidence that all of these scriptures are in error? You pointed out the flaws but didn't give evidence for your case. Can you give something for me to look at?Thank you.
@@BC-zv5sk The fact that he used non literal passages (I.E. verses that are figures of speech) 😂
@@BC-zv5sk do you believe that the earth is flat?
Too bad the video is filled with mistakes and misrepresentations...
One of the reasons I like D. Wood is that he doesn't feel the need to show off by using "big" words. Carl Sagan was like that. Saying things in such a way that the layman can comprehend.
Science and history brought me back to God
👏👏👏 incredible video! Very well done! May God continue to bless your ministry abundantly brother! LOVE BOLDLY! ❤️✝️
Thank you so much!
Asking why scientists believed in god .
Is like asking why the people who invented cars didn't rode cars them self. Yes many pioneer of the scientific revolution was believers. Because in that time science was still in it's infancy. Newton or bacon didn't knew anything about evolution did they. Also this is no excuse for all the scientific errors in the bible.
1. the universe was not made in 7 days ( genesis 1:1-31and exodus:20:8-12)
2. Stars can never fall down on earth ( Daniel:8:10, Matthew:24:29, Revelation:6:13)
3. Earth was not made before the universe ( genesis:1:14-19)
4. Earth does not have boundaries or ends ( job:38:13, Psalm :74;17, isiah:5:26)
5. The earth is not flat like clay under a seal (job:11:9,38:5,14)
6. The sun doesn't revolves around the earth ( Psalm:19:4-6)
7. The earth has no corner stones , pillars, foundations or supports ( 1 Sam:2;8, 2 Sam 22:16 , job:9:6, 38:4-6, Psalm:75:3, 82:5, Isaiah:24:18, 48;13, Jeremiah:31:37, Micah:6:2, Zechariah12:1)
8.the sky is not solid ( job:37;18).
9. Rainbows didn't begin in 2369 BCE ( genesis:9:13-17)
10. The first man wasn't made about 6000 years ago from dust ( genesis:1-27,2:7,3:19)
11. The first woman wasn't made from man's ribs ( genesis: 2:18;22)
12. The origin of Humans doesn't predate the vegetation and rain ( genesis:2:5-7)
13. Life evolved through evolution through natural selection god didn't do it ( genesis 1:20-25)
14. Human language didn't originate in the tower of Babel ( genesis:11:5-9 )
15 . And how can I forgot. The universe is not 6000 years old ( genesis:1:27,2:7,3:19) and ( Luke:3: the genelogy to Adam to Chris) which clearly depicts a universe which is only few thousands of years old .
16. Snow and hail isn't stored ( job:38:22-23)
17. The sea has no permanently fixed boundaries ( job:38:8-11) ( Jeremiah: 5:22)
18. The moon does not have light (Genesis 1-14:19) ( Isaiah:13:10, 30:26: 60:19)
19. Earth and it's geology features are in motion but the bible doesn't seem to know that. ( 1 Chronicles 16:30) ( psalm:65:6 )
20 . Animals aren't in subjection to humans ( genesis:1:26-27)
21. the flood of Noah never happened and can't happen ( Genesis: 6:9-8:19) . There's so much wrong with this fable that it is a miracle that people believe in it .
22 . There never were any angle human hybrid giants ( Genesis:6:4) . Now I am gonna ask a question that you people love to ask. Where are the fossils
23. There never was any firmament or canopy above the earth ( Genesis: 1:6-8, 8:2 )
24. Carnivores didn't originated as herbivores ( Genesis: 1:30)
We all know I haven't even scratch the surface. There are hundreds more which are major and unaccompanied errors. And there are thousands more which are minar errors but errors never the less. There is no chance that book that is rotten with enormous errors is the inspired word of God.
@@celestialsatheist1535 oh my dear brother or sister, how wrong you are! Scientific theories are NOT truth. They are just what they're called... theories. You cannot count ANY measurements of ANY particles/elements for longer than the age of the machine taking the measurements. The basic meaning of evolution is false. Every single living being would be gone that came before us. We would never have all of these different "organisms" or " clumps of cells" at the same time. When that fell through, they came up with "micro" evolution. It's like they just can't help themselves from making up false science just to disprove a higher power. Science has completely stopped trying to find the truth. They are now trying to disprove God instead.
The bible is the living, breathing Word of God, sharper than any two edged sword. It is our life guide to everything that can possibly come our way.
I'm not going one by one with your list, but you must know how to read the bible. From your comment, you don't. The prophetic books (Daniel, Revelation, Isaiah, etc), are not to be taken literally. There's a code to go by when reading... Woman=church, 1day=1yr, waters=multitudes of people, and so on. Read the bible in the mindframe of the time it was written, as a historical book. From cover to cover, it shows the ultimate love of God, how much He tries to show us the way, keeps forgiving, keeps giving, THEN gives the ultimate gift to show us His truth... HIMSELF, on the cross.
Clear your mind of ALL preconceived notions or beliefs (or disbeliefs 😊). Read it to understand it, not disprove it. The bible will show you the greatest love of all... Our Creator for His created. You may disagree with things in the bible, but you can't disprove it. To me, the bible is the greatest love story ever told! I'm sorry you don't see it that way. It's right there if you open your mind and heart to it. I love you brother! I hope you take the time to learn instead of just try and disprove. If you let it, the bible WILL show you absolutely everything you need to know about God, life, death, eternity, the earth, ALL of it. God bless you brother, LOVE BOLDLY! ❤️✝️
@@Jesusfreak322 It appears that I have hit a solid wall . The word theory has different implications in scientific terms. The word theory simply means explaination. Theory is the mean by which facts are derived from.
Things fall toward the ground that's a fact.
Gravity is that explaination.
People get sick. That's a fact
Germ Theory is that explaination.
Evolution is a fact.
Natural selection is the explanation.
Science is not the truth it's finding the Truth. You are dead wrong on the first words.
@@celestialsatheist1535 I'm sorry but evolution has never been a fact. Evolution is an incredibly weak excuse to disprove intelligent design. The very author questioned its validity. With evolution, the old species dies off. We don't have that at all. We have nearly countless amounts of species alive at the exact same time, from ocean amoeba to human beings. It's common sense. You also can't count on ANY aging of any element or matter that's older than the year the machine or test itself was created. That's also common sense.
And I'm sorry, I keep forgetting meanings of words are changing by the day. Theory in science did mean something different 45+ years ago. The Hypotheses of natural selection and evolution can never be proven. Just like I can never physically prove to you that God exists.
We can hopefully agree to disagree. I do hope you take my advice about reading the bible, I promise Christ will change you forever! Thanks for the talk and being gracious with me 😊 I wish you well, take care!
This one got you the sub! PRAISE GOD! God used you to help me have a deeper understanding of fundamental truths, I'm extremely grateful you released this video, and I thank God you did!