This Lesson from the Bible will Make You Unstoppable | Franciscan University | EP 252
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- This episode was recorded on April 4, 2022.
I discussed gratitude, faith, and suffering in this conversation at the Franciscan University of Steubenville. How can we be sure that pain is a solid guiding principle as we navigate the world? What is the underlying structure of pain, and what does it point at?
We also touched on a myriad of topics around those central themes, such as sin and the symbol of the snake, giving advice, resurrection, the relationship between faith and suffering, evil, the effect we have on others, and sunsets.
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I think pick up your cross and follow me means: you need to die so believe in me because i already died your death so you can live.
Not suffer suffer suffer to enter life because we who are in christ have already been crucified its not something you need to do your whole life your sin already has been payed for.
You are in a delusion. Telling to people to bear their crosses, same time supporting the satanic Darwin theory.
Faith and religion is so different religions is like telling someone you've found something faith is something you don't need to. Word like devil read it back word and you see it different.
@@lesleyseville9458 faith and believe are baseless. To know something you need a base. People are lost because we are brainwashed from childhood with a globe.
If you refuse to accept the payment Jesus made with his blood on the cross for your sins, you will bear the cost.
Pardons are free, but they must be accepted.
I know your busy Jordan. And you'll probably never see this. But when my father died I tried to kill myself with drugs. The day after I found you on CZcams and I binged almost all of your videos and i have beared my cross every damn day since. I've come so far and I have you to thank for helping me find my way.
Thank you Jordan you couldn't possibly imagine the impact you've made on this world.
😘 Great Work! Never Quit.
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I am so glad. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for your comment. I needed it.
God bless you with the courage to keep bearing your Cross
I've been an atheist for almost 20 yrs. I don't know what the truth is about anything anymore. I just know there was something deeply beautiful about this talk. Thank you.
The catalyst and the true beginning of your life's journey maybe
Knock on the door and it will open...seek and ye shall find.
God is real call on him and see for your self, God bless you.
God Loves you. He Loves everyone. He is sending you messages through this video. It is hard to understand all of this. So pray that God will help you to understand the truth. The book of Job, is remarkable. For what he went through and still held his faith for God. ❤
Yeah it gets really strange when you seek so much information from different sources and your left like still not knowing anything ( REALLY)
I’m homeless, jobless and no vehicle at the moment… on the 18th of this month is one year that I lost my mother, but I have so much peace, I have a good heart and a great mind… I have stayed faithful… I once thought that losing my home and having no money would be my worst nightmare but now I would give it up in a heart beat to keep the peace I have now, my worst fear now would be to lose my peace and love that Christ gives me, I pray you all including myself that peace comes to us, that love comes to us, I thank the ones that read this i pray we all find our paths and our purpose in this life.
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I know JHWH and Jeshua will provide and keep us alive in Their Love and Protection
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“Peace” and “Contentment” are the goals of the human mind. You have grace, dignity and integrity when suffering does not make you bitter. You have accomplished something great!!
Even mother Teresa felt like she lost Gods love. It’s the greatest test, to lose that and still treat people good!
I am a 51 year old man. I lost my mom from breast cancer when I was just seven. Years later I lost my Dad in 2000. It's been 23 years and yet it feels like just yesterday. Through all this I have never truly lost my faith. I have strayed many times with alcohol and drugs but I overcame these addictions and temptations through the grace of God. I have been through many struggles in my life and through it all my faith only becomes stronger. One thing that I have always known as a Christian is that being Christian and believing in God doesn't mean that your life will somehow be without pain and suffering. I've noticed that some people think that is what Christians believe. Jesus suffered more then any of us could ever imagine. From the time of His birth till His crucifixion He was wanted dead. The suffering that we go through in our lives helps us to understand if even just a little bit what Jesus our Savior went through and brings us closer to our Lord!
Sorry for the long comment. I just felt the need to share this.
Great comment. No need to apologize!
A deeply insightful LIFE & the LOVE of GOD. So very beautiful.
Wow. I am so sorry for your losses. Your strength and faith through it all though is so inspiring. Thanks for sharing. You are so blessed. 🙏🏼
Perfectly said.
Thanks for sharing and I am so sorry for the loss you’ve suffered. I too lost my mum, 2 years ago. She was beaten to death by a boyfriend. I lost faith in everything the day that happened. I’ve since had my first child and looking at him and how innocent and beautiful he is I can’t help but think there is something after this life. The happiness I feel for him is equal to the pain I have from what happened so I guess I’m confused to say the least
"Life can be meaningful enough to justify its suffering."
- Jordan Peterson
im 44 why is life suffering and fear? I really don't get it.
@@SeasonednutsIs it that way for you?
@@Seasonednuts 😵
Don’t have a conversation with the serpent, as it will be a conversation about ‘your faith’ that most people are not prepared for, or are not knowledgeable enough to argue about.
@@Seasonednuts
Suffering is how we learn & grow.
If you don’t experience pain, for instance if you burn your finger, you may not understand how dangerous, damaging, painful fire is!
You fear the unknown!
You fear that which has already harmed you, or that which threatens to harm you!
"Pick up your damn suffering, and bear it. And try to be a good person, so you don’t make it worse.”
- Jordan Peterson
I love that video, top tier
Poor Jordan does not understand JESUS taught [Mat 13] the "church" consists of (a) relatively few saved "wheat/sheep"
(sown by God and) destined to eternal life and (b) many unsaved "tares/goats" (sown by Satan and) destined to the same fire [Mat 25:41]
Jordan thinks man is saved (get's favor with God) by doing good works. I would ask Jordan WHY "good works" saves Christians....
but not Jews, Moslems, Buddhists, Hindus, Ateists, Agnostics, Secular Humanists (like Jordan) etc, etc,
Jordan is neither qualified or capable of teaching the Gospel and should stop pretending otherwise.
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Poor Jordan does not understand JESUS taught [Mat 13] the "church" consists of (a) relatively few saved "wheat/sheep"
(sown by God and) destined to eternal life and (b) many unsaved "tares/goats" (sown by Satan and) destined to the same fire [Mat 25:41]
Jordan thinks man is saved (get's favor with God) by doing good works. I would ask Jordan WHY "good works" saves Christians....
but not Jews, Moslems, Buddhists, Hindus, Ateists, Agnostics, Secular Humanists (like Jordan) etc, etc,
Jordan is neither qualified or capable of teaching the Gospel and should stop pretending otherwise.
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This is my favourite quote. Thank you.❤️
Take up your cross and follow me.
Jordan Peterson is the father that many people's children couldn't have.
Absolutely, thank God.
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Amen!
I called him my internet dad when I met him in Florida it was a pleasure to hear him lecture.
Yes. Mine
Dr. Peterson’s brilliance is astounding. The depth of it is propelled by his humility. Comments like: “it looks to me” and “ I just learned this recently” shows his unity with humanity and lack of individual ego. Thank you for teaching me. The egoless, science-backed compassion landed in my consciousness. 🙂 Dr. Peterson is becoming “Christified”. ❤️❤️❤️
YES! I couldn’t have said this any better! Thank you for describing my exact feelings after watching this! ❤❤❤
I believe when the time comes Dr Peterson will become an apostle or something in 😊 that Realm No joke!!🙏❣️
Genius and humility are a beautiful combination
I feel like I'm witnessing the birth of the Second Renaissance/Enlightenment when I hear this sort of discourse. Which is, to my delight, very much appreciated by the audience both at the event and here on youtube.
Me too - especially since when the Internet started, i hoped that it would be (a new era of Enlightenment )....and was subsequently disappointed to see the opposite in so many ways (e.g. strangers fighting, online bullying & the birth of the toxic woke agenda)... If this is _'...the Second Renaissance/Enlightenment...',_ then YAY!
Through such a discourse of new enlightenment we now appear to have an architecture to call out & confront the malevolent, post modern agenda
@@visionofdisorder Time to reignite the light✌️
A second enlightenment would be the refutation of the first, since why would you have a second "philisophical revolution" if the first was enough. The enlightenment did away with the idea of evil, and promoted 'the self' as the greatest good. Hopefully a second enlightenment would reintroduce it.
More like back to Stone Age and being a religious brainlet.
“The worst of all snakes is the serpent in your heart” Having struggled with addiction for many years I truly believe these words. Powerful. 22:54
God bless and give you strength, healing, good success in conquering your addiction and great joy, all this I pray in Jesus' holy and Mighty Name, Amen and Amen! My dad was a drug addict. Forgive yourself, please.
Me as well. The serpent is in the drugs. I was an addict until I literally fell on the floor and begged Jesus to take it from me. He did and I was going to 3 meetings a day and couldn’t stay sober. It’s been years now and I praise Jesus for His sacrifice and thank Him for saving me!! 🙏❤️✝️🕊
Btw, the serpent is in your heart UNTIL you accept Jesus. Then He gives you the Holy Spirit and you will change. I have no more guilt or shame from my past which is what caused me to keep using. God bless. READ YOUR BIBLES.
@@nothingbutthetruth3227 I could be wrong but I'd say that the drugs aren't the serpent. Just as a rifle, a medicine, a book, a fishing rod are neither good or bad on their own, and require someone to do something with them to be so, drugs are just chemicals. I'm an addict myself, and for me at least like lots of others, by the time we hit a point where we start using, we've already been on that road for a long time.
In my life the serpent is and was my own will, my trauma, my defects. Those are the serpent and the drugs were the conversation with it, if you will. It was going to manipulate and convince and bite me regardless, and substances were just the specific way in which is happened. As addicts if we stop using, we've only addressed a tiny portion of the problem, and we'll never get better if that's all we do. Honesty, charity, community, and surrender are what get us through.
Again this is just my perspective, and my experience. I wish you and mr Cohen up there the best, thanks for mentioning your experiences : )
you are your own greatest enemy
I escaped the tyranny of drug addiction to "the desert" and I've been trying to cross it for 3 years now.
Thank you so much for the great insight to keep going and sooner or later I will walk out of this desert.
Keep travelling, brother. What's on the other side is worth the journey. I am right there with you on this journey through the desert and we have thousands, if not millions, of people to walk that journey with us. You are always loved, regardless of your past. I'm learning these lessons too.
Brad, it remains true that the equipment needed to have a real, ordinary life does not include alcohol or drugs. The question remains, what do you value more ? I pray you will feel God’s peace as you take one day at a time.
I spent the winter of 82-83 in Beirut and sank deep into alcohol returning stateside. I came to faith in 84, spent lot of years in various churches and am currently in a Methodist church in our small town, having lost my wife of 36 years to twenty years of multiple sclerosis three years ago. I heard this pastor in a park celebration a year ago and have come out of a long desert. I believe you will walk out in your time. I've dealt with drug addiction for others ever since my own walking away from alcohol as a young Marine. There is an end to the desert. John McClain, GySgt, USMC, ret.
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Ask God for His strength and power...surrender...each day...He shows up...I've been clean over 30 yrs
Listened to this mostly driving in the car and was on the verge of tears. When I came home my husband asked what I was up to and I just paused this and cried and told him this was just so profound, I just had to sit and think and just wow. Thank you for this.
i know ❤
Amazing lesson, can't believe that this is for free lol.
I agree. It is amazing that we have people like this in the world. People that give us knowledge and wisdom for free with the only desire being that they hope it helps someone are truly a blessing.
Don’t give them any ideas, let’s enjoy what we have for free (for now..)…
Doesnt cost a thing to listen
@@zebadiahmusser8648 depends how you look at it, nothing is free… listening to this does cost you something; your time (the most valuable thing ever that we have…)
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💥BOOM💥
...... Mic drop moment 👊
Admittedly I have stopped listening to Jordan as regularly and with the same enthusiasm that I did a few years ago. This video has reminded me of why I became such a big fan. I am a highly open person who grew up in a secular non religious environment with Christianity somewhat there but mostly at a distance. I’m still amazed by how this information cuts through and holds such weight for me. I believe Jordan’s talks have been a bridge for many like me who would not have been receptive to Christianity to this degree otherwise. Having dealt with some malevolence and a lot of suffering in the last few years, I don’t know if I would still be here if it weren’t for some understanding of this. It really does seem like the only path that makes sense. Thank you.
Amen to that.
Thank you for your testimony. A Hail Mary for you I’ll pray.
Yea me too. Jordan became a religion to me and changed my life. I've fallen from grace since I lost him. But I feel found now
The fact this is free is baffling that you lost interest... I thought after you listen to JP you would start your own discoveries
Have a look into this piece of work: "e risale english" Just write it in a search and it pops up at the top of your search. This may change your life for the better. It's not like anything you may have read before...
It still stuns me how one person can impact a generation (multiple in my family, thank God). I am now 64, have lead a Christ-centered life, I don’t have too many regrets. But when Jordan Peterson came into my realm of influence, the wounds I had inside of me of being parentless, (emotionally speaking) and the trauma of abuse are somehow being addressed. His wisdom is the mother and father I never had. Even though he’s not a preacher, he has enabled me in someway I still haven’t been able to explain even to myself…. he has enabled me to live as a believer more so than I ever have. I am deeply grateful to Dr. Peterson.
i know - i think he’s a prophet
Ive been hearing this mans name for some time.
My lifes recent catastrophe has lead me in a direction i never thought possible.
At first I wanted pity, I wanted to do whatever to fix it.
Something told me to stop forcing things.
The Lord lead me this way.
This is my favorite motivational/inspirational video.
When i let jesus take the wheel, things started to get better immediately.
My child's mother was forced to bring my son back from NV to NY.
I never thought that would happen.
The fact that i ended up living in Buffalo NY after growing up in NC.
I am so blessed i am here.
I can say i love the people i work with, a very unusual feeling.
Fear.
My fears are gone.
No more stress.
I can finally breathe.
Thank you dr. Peterson.
You have forever changed my life.
I do hope some day i get to thank you in person.
I will never stop commenting on Jordan's videos that he is the reason I chose to have a family. It was the best decision of my life. My son is 18 months old and he is the crackling little fire that we crowd around and watch. He has uplifted spirits and truly is the best thing I've ever chosen to do with my life. Thank you Jordan. His father and I watch you often. We look to you as a true philosopher and great thinker of our time. We are so happy you are well. Canada needs you now.
Same here.
You are awesome 😎
They’re currently trying to put an end to his work. The board of psychologists have put him in “media retraining” for an unnamed amount of time, for which he’s paying $225/ hr for, and at the “end” (whatever that may be), they will decide if he’s learned enough to keep his license to practice.
@@d15p4tch gotta make that stop and have him train them!
he really does deserve the prais wise brutally honest men are needed
"What's the purpose of an education if it isn't a call to nobility" when he said that I nearly burst into tears
Honestly, I've never listened to anyone else that can get me all emotional with just simple words like that. The tears mean that it's important to hear.
@ what are you on about?
Yes, I felt that to the core. My whole world has changed since I was told of him. What couldve been.
Actually he said “virtue” not nobility! There’s a difference
@@ThePlayfarer agreed the truth is that powerful
"Your guilt can be weaponized." **
Thank you for this message 😊
This is such a comforting discussion. As a candidate for Confirmation this Easter Vigil, this is so edifying.
“If I can’t find Christ in me, I can’t find Christ in them”. Very good quote.
Golden.
it seems he wants to rely on himself except the Christ. And that path leads to nowehere. I was kinda appalled how much they give agenda to humans instead of relying on Jesus.
I disagree with this sentiment (although I can see the point he was getting at). This would imply people who do not have a relationship with Christ are not able to see Christ in other people. Just as his anecdote with the nurse and colleague who noticed something different about the way she did her job, so do people who do not know Christ discern something different about people who have a relationship with Him, and are actively living it out. This is also evident in the Bible when people gathered around Jesus because they knew there was something "different" about Him. Just because you don't have a characteristic/trait etc., doesn't mean you can't notice it in others.
@@tacticalturtle7469 I don't think that's what he meant by "see Christ in other people." You're interpreting it as something like "see Christ-like behavior in others," but I think he means something along the lines of "see the incarnate image of God in others."
Professor Jordan has came along way since the beginning of this journey. God bless
Right... God will bless people teaching a false gospel. LOL
@@wisevirgin3405 Ever read the Bible? God can and does bless the wicked for His purposes according to His will and plan. That’s basic 101 stuff
I’ve come a long ways since his journey as well. For that I’m grateful. 🙏
Yes he's the most intelligent man Ive ever heard .. edit - because now he does believe as far as I know and being this smartest man and intelligence meaning he has gotten me through a lot of depression and so forth trying to explain because someone commented on what I said 💜🙏
He needs to stay away from lectures about God lol
Bless this man he has earned the answers for humanity❤️🙏May God protect him from harm
God bless and protect Dr. Peterson and his family 🙏💖🙏
The answers for humanity are in the Bible for everyone to find
Thanks to all who produced this, the world needs more of this. Well done.
When I was in a very difficult situation. My husband was terribly ill and had become tyrannical. Instead of feeling self pity I knelt in tears invocating the Holy Spirit for help. It was amazing how we both changed. We felt God’s love among us.
Very beautiful mother! Thank you for sharing ❤
Best thing I ever heard concerning marriage? There needs to be three in every marriage. The two people and God. If there aren't those three, it can't make it. It takes you, your husband , and God.
When I got married I was very young and neieve I had come from a background of deceit and physical harm, sexually abuse. My husband had never experienced any problems of that sort. How could he ever understand where I was coming from. It ended badly for both of us and I've never been able to trust again. What do you have to say about that
Sadly we grow the most in suffering. My daughter was diagnosed for a severe form autism. Before her diagnosis I was crying out to God, fasting and praying profusely. Once I finally and fully submitted to my Lord and his will, it was freeing and liberating. I no longer feel sorry for myself. My daughter is one of the biggest blessings in my life. I credit her diagnosis for my growth and the relationship I have with my Lord Jesus Christ.
God bless and use your testimony.
It’s gonna take me multiple hours to watch this because every few sentences something blows my mind and I gotta go back and listen to it again🇨🇦🖤🇺🇸
Same here every word is so impactful I must slow it down to chew on it.
Lol same
@@pamvancleave1349 🖤
Yes! Same….I’m a saved women who believes who God, Jesus and the Holy
Spirit, is…. I’ve loved this guy for so long… so good 😭🙌🏽
I do that too keep going back, might do so again next time I watch this.
Thank you Jordan Peterson, I had everything I ever wanted but everything means nothing without Christ, thank you for helping me read and respect the Holy Scriptures.
If you had everything you wanted you dont meaning of suffering
As someone raised by a narcissistic parent I can say that it is quite possible to take on too much responsibility to the point that it crushes you and it can totally feel like you're doing the right/ethical thing, but you're just wearing yourself out and it's not helping you or them. What I've learned is that the improvement really happens when you take on the correct responsibilities and limit contact with those who just wish to use you.
Good comment and Good insight. How will you know when you have taken on the correct responsibilities? Thank you 🙏
I'll be 70 this year. Looking back at lived life, I find that the things we really value were the times of sacrifice and suffering. Carrying responsibility, not shirking duty, these were, and are, valuable when looking in retrospect. We have divine design to be doers, to carry the load, to not be weak, but strong. I tried to take a month off at a condo on the coast. I could not make it but 3 weeks, I was dying of leisure and boredom. We aren't designed for doing nothing but leisure. Dr. Peterson has helped me so much in this area, to keep going, people are counting on me to not quit and just sit on the porch and watch the birds. I'm trying to carry as much responsibility as I can bear. I need that.
Years ago, a friend told me that I needed to "stop and smell the flowers." One morning I tried it and couldn't make it for an hour. I have no problem with smelling flowers, but I don't like the concept of "stop." So boring and purposeless! I'm 70 too, and it is wonderful to take times of "rest" as needed, or just sit in the beautiful garden I have worked to create (!) and soak in peace and nature. However, our lives need to be purposeful and meaningful, or we are just ... inert. What a curse that would be!
Amen
Although that personality is not rare, I would count it lucky. I don't see one type as good or bad. It really does take all types. If not for those who stopped to look and record the things that were happening instead of participating, we wouldn't know our past. So I always liked the way the Japanese considered all life. As a balance of all things. Congratulations on 70 years of life my friend.
Congratulations on making it to 70! Leisure and Boredom are things that practically mean you are dead in some way for sure... but everyone must employee their resources given to them at their disposal as much as they can, that is the better approach to life in my opinion no matter the age. With aging you are just a little less capable than you used to be and that doesn't mean you should ignore what other things you are still able to do with what is left with you and start acting like all is over... absolute comfort can never be the answer
So totally agree with you !!
Let’s keep praying for him and his family. ❤❤❤❤
Pray for his salvation. He is clearly not saved. He addresses the Bible philosophically.
I'm not Catholic, but this was an amazing message!
@@Zebulunies yes, but Franciscan University is Catholic 😉
This has nothing to do with being a Catholic
It's never too late. 😊
😂 protestants says things of catholics as if they are righteous. 😂 don't accuse me now, Protestants, I used to be a protestant, but religion is just a badge for me. I am a Christ follower, not a Christian anymore. To live a life worthy in my Creator's eye. That's all I seek!
He pray the holy rosary with his wife :) @@Zebulunies
Thank You.
For guiding lost souls back towards the light
For helping those in despair to find meaning again
For helping those who've lost faith in humanity - those lost in hatred - to Love again
For leading the prodigal sons and daughters of this world back to their Father
And for bridging the gap between science and religion/spirituality, just like the great Carl Jung before you, to show that they are ultimately one and the same.
You are indeed a warrior of Love and Truth,
And a true blessing to this world.
May Allah bless you, and give you courage, strength, and good health to continue with your work. ❤
I’ve seen Mr. Peterson in many discussions, and this is by far the most informative and helpful one yet. I’m glad he decided to study the Bible.
Me too! What an asset for the GOOD TEAM! Lol well ya know what I’m sayin😉🙏❤️
You should be
You mean Dr. Peterson I'm sure.
We are not a mixed race, and we do not want to become a mixed race either. While the Western Europeans are mixing with non-Europeans, we do not want our color, traditions and culture to be mixed with of those others. We want to be how we became 1100 years ago here in the Carpathian Basin. We will be able to maintain Hungary's biological future without migrants
I get where you’re coming from a persevering perspective. But talking about securing a biological future?
No offense, but I’m personally perceiving major aryan-race type facism in that statement. (Observe “statement”, not judging you as a person, but rather the way said statement can be perceived).
Try adopting the concept of putting yourself in other’s shoes (empathy) and looking through someone else’s eyes, no matter the ethnicity and nationality.
But rather on content of character.
I’m sure it would do everyone in the world better if we all did.
Because in order to reach the ultimate goal in creating a better world we need to be able to logically discuss and empathetically understand each other.
Anyhow.
Take care my friend!
Hope this message
broaden your horizons a little, or at the very least got you thinking. Much love and respect.
Hope you have a wonderful life. :)
(Same for anyone who reads this). :)
Mr. Peterson, I’m a 23 year old woman with some emotional traumas from childhood. I have ADHD and NEVER on track. You make me wanna try.
♥️ The secret is to believe in yourself, the kingdom is within, I can relate to your situation, I hope you love yourself, like your life depends on it x
Jordan Peterson is a very intelligent man and seems very genuine.
Please remember this though...
There is ONLY ONE Way to the Father and that is Jesus Christ.
JESUS said "I am The WAY The TRUTH and The LIFE no man gets to the Father except by me." John 14:6
So Matthew 6: 33 ALWAYS
And remember you must be Born Again, the Born Again that JESUS speaks of in The book of John.
Allow the HOLY SPIRIT to lead you and help you understand the Bible.
It's about a RELATIONSHIP with God the Creator and His Son not a church, or cathedral or pastor or priest etc ...they can be good but NO ONE will get you to God the Father except Christ.
It's that simple and that hard in this CrAZy world.
May Ephesians 3:16-19 be yours.🙏
May John 14:27 cover you.
It's TOO late in the day to get side tracked.
John 3:16 wraps up EVERYTHING.
There's no pergatory or need for saints OTHERWISE is Christ lying?
Do we pray in His name or not?
He loved His mother yes!
But this Mother Mary stuff as well...is not cool.
Mary is hardly mentioned in the Bible.
Anything or one that minimizes or denies the Deity of CHRIST is Anti- CHRIST.
May you search and find absolute TRUTH.
P.S.
The snakes in the desert part and LOOKING at the SCEPTOR AND BEING HEALED Moses is SHOWING and preparing for CHRIST.
Christ had to be crucified and held up and All those that look upon HIM and believe WILL BE SAVED.
Just as those that looked upon Moses serpent on his stick were saved.
It's SO crucial to get accurate knowledge.
We can be WORLD smart but to KNOW God TRULY know HIM and serve HIM you need be humble and led by Holy Spirit. Jordan needs a study Bible from just a Christian perspective NOT a Catholic perspective.
This is not meaning to put down Jordan, he seems like a good guy in many ways but he's missing the mark and trying to apply a worldly psychological perspective to things+ depth, breadth, length+ width of God.
✝️🐑📖😉🕯️🙏
P.S.
Christ is knocking in the door to your heart Revelation 3:20🙏
ANSWER HIM, get to know HIM. RELEASE your pain by giving it ALL to HIM leave it at the cross that's what HE died for...HE SO knows YOU and your pain/ situation speak to HIM like you would a close friend of whom you respect and love...HE can heal every wound, bring peace to you and fill you with Joy that's lasts through all situations not just a state of happiness due to the "day or environment" Read the BIBLE start with 2nd testament perhaps and get to know CHRIST...the Salvation.🕊️💌
Keep trying. You can't be better than you are today without effort.
Even the smallest improvement is better than none.
You are both being, and becoming.
You choose who you become.
Never stop. Have faith.
NEVER on track? Maybe sometimes you are on track but you're just not being a good friend to yourself. Give yourself a break.
Do it! Try. 😁 It's so worth it and in case you need to hear this, YOU CAN! I believe in you. 😁
You help so many people in need of encouragement... I'm one of them.. I was so helpless and lost before discovering you... I started looking into certain topics I thought would help me and your name kept coming up so I decided to watch some videos... Ive now watched most and even some multiple times... Theres no amount of words that could ever thank you Mr. Peterson.. Ive never met you and could go into so much detail but this will likely just pass as another comment.. And thats ok.. If you do read this... Thank you and god bless you sir!
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For me the suffering was the catalyst for merging my soul with flesh. I'm in spirit and walk with God everyday. I know Jesus now. I had a beautiful unconditional love fill me and outside of me. Death from my body life is in spirit. It's hard to understand unless you give all of yourself to Jesus he comes to show you. The kingdom is in you. Follow light in the dark . Seek light and thats the path.
27:15 - "Being terrified isn't the end of the story... Recovering is the end of the story"
Bible contradictions 1
Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
(a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5)
How many fighting men were found in Judah?
(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
(b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
(b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
(b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)
The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
(a) Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
(b) Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)
*Bible contradictions 2*
When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
(a) After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
(b) Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)
How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
(a) Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
(b) Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)
When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
(a) One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
(b) Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)
How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
(a) Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
(b) Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)
In what year of King Asa’s reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?
(a) Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:8)
(b) Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)
How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?
(a) Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
(b) Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)
Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
(a) Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
(b) Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)
*bible contradictions 3*
How many were the children of Zattu?
(a) Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8)
(b) Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)
How many were the children of Azgad?
(a) One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
(b) Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)
How many were the children of Adin?
(a) Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
(b) Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)
How many were the children of Hashum?
(a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
(b) Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)
How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
(a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)
(b) One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)
Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows:
(a) 29,818 (Ezra)
(b) 31,089 (Nehemiah)
How many singers accompanied the assembly?
(a) Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)
(b) Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)
What was the name of King Abijah’s mother?
(a) Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
(b) Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)
Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?
(a) Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
(b) No (Joshua 15:63)
Hundreds more are available
@@abdolrahmanal-harmi5978 What is your point? The numbers don’t matter. These things shouldn’t be taken literally anyway.
Incredible speaker. Peterson's words call me to be a better person, what a remarkable man.
Read the Bible. You think Peterson’s good, the Bible is the the TRUTH! It’s the way to go and the way to find life the way it should be lived! God bless you Jared. I will pray you find Jesus. This must be a coincidence because I’ve never said this before but feel led to it. Holy Spirit! 🕊🙏❤️✝️
Funny everyone here is a man 😂😂
@@nothingbutthetruth3227 I'm an atheist and believe that religion is a man-made tool used by a small group of people to control a much larger group of people. Tell me why is it that, if God is good, why is there evil if he created everything? Why do we suffer disease, misfortune and such horrible health problems at birth even if God loves us all ? A common argument to our suffering I heard is because God gave us freedom, but giving us freedom and allowing us to succumb to evil is like allowing a child do what it wants and not teach it anything
Just watched this today and prayed again for Dr. Peterson. 🙏🏼 I am so grateful for his work and perseverance in spite of the evil that comes against him. ❤
Faith,hope and Love. And the greatest of these is Love. Love never fails. Always love and love unconditionally.
I could listen to Jordan Peterson all day.
Yes... because he teaches false doctrines (aka "heresies") for itching ears.
@@wisevirgin3405 what are you on about?
@@wisevirgin3405 Ok... please enlighten us as to what is heretical about his teaching?
Only fools believe in fairy tales, above all, jewish mythology.
@@wisevirgin3405 yeah…you can just go ahead and change your name to virgin..
You know, I'm not a Catholic, but hosting Dr. Peterson like this is one of the reasons I really appreciate Catholics.
I'm a catholic and love the often heated and serious (but also rational) discussions, debates and lectures in our parish... the image of Catholicism in society is often so far removed from reality that its unbelievable. We don't spend our time moaning about gays or condemning abortion at every opportunity. We think, philosophise, argue, debate. Our venerated St. Thomas Aquinas said "We must love those whose opinions we share AND those whose opinions we reject, for both have labored in the search for truth, and both have helped us in finding it.
@@buddyschreizerden3611 We have a social culture now steeped in scapegoating -- nothing new for humanity, but it's so huge now, and the values of think, philosophize, and debate are rare indeed. I love Thomas Aquinas! It's all about the search for Truth, and it should be a humble journey. I'm currently in a doctoral program with Liberty University, an evangelical Christian institution, and I have been astounded and impressed by their dedication to mutual respect and the search for truth in our studies; they emphasize over and over that the goal of our research should be the revealing of truth, whether that is comfortable or not! A huge relief from some of the politically charged academic environments I have experienced.
Catholics are inherently hypocrites. They proclaim so much on the moral level, yet embrace the murder of infants as a method of birth control and convenience. Game over. Catholics are a joke. By your own proclamations, none of you are going to Heaven.
Catholic church is the original apostolic church. Beauty and Truth. Peace be with you all. ✝️🙏🏻🤍😁⛪
@@JesusChurchBible Unfortunately it is now a very corrupt and insidious institution doing a lot of work form the devil. They sell their souls to the highest bidder.
This is truly a man of God cause not only does he teach a lesson , he feels it deep within his heart I see it professor what you have is not only human ,God is very much alive in your ❤️🔥 I respect all the teachings you talk of cause it's the prime example of what a man should be like understanding wise, with thoughts and considerate to all opposition, post . scriptum. your voice sir is filled with a lifetime of true wisdom ❤️🔥🙏🏾🙌🏾
One of THE BEST Biblical lectures from JBP. Thanks again, Doc. You're an inspiration and a motivation in the active sense of the word. You inspire people to action. A true activist for the postmodern age.
Am I the only one who tears up during portions of almost every Jordan Peterson conversation or lecture I watch or listen to? Thank you Jordan, for sharing wisdom. It's a truly priceless gift.
I do Justin.
me too
Me too
You're not alone
Because weak 😭😭😭😭
Two men coming at the problem from two directions, one from the spiritual and one from the psychological. Both with the desire to help people. It was very uplifting.
They’re both spiritual perspectives in their own way
Interesting
Dear Dr Peterson... God loves you!
Thank you for this most extraordinary and insightful talk.
Thank you Father for the blessing which was so beautiful.
May God bless you Dr Peterson, your wife and children in abundance.
Blessings also on all present to make this a most special evening.
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To think a psychologist accept an interview with a catholic university to talk about the bible and the book of exodus and Jesus of Nazareth the way Jordan Peterson did is amazing. You brought up such fantastic points the priest couldn't help but to take notes to progress the interview. An interview filled with amazing insights from the both of you. Thank you
I absolutely love how this man instead of forcing religion at people and telling them to believe he uses religion as a tool of thought and improvement. I don’t think this stuff would hit me so hard if it weren’t so analytical about the effects of having a higher power of some kind. Thank you man.
Isn't that what the Bible is supposed to used as? A collection of stories and ideas that help you lead your life?
@@nigelmorris9554 no. It’s a call to a relationship with God. You can see how God interacts and loves and calls out to man. To remove God from the equation but use His words to your end will inevitably lead to nought.
All you will have are pseudo-religious bigots who think they are “good” without the groundbreaking, heart wrenching work that God needs to do in our hearts. This cannot be done without a relationship with God.
The same bible says, Jer 17:9 “The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?”
It kind of follows from the fact that “There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins.” Ecc 7:20
You can’t trust your heart for guidance (and pick and choose what you want to believe about God or the bible) as it will deceive you into wanting things which are ultimately not good. Hence defeating the point to which you started looking into the bible in the first place.
There is a supernatural factor that went into the making of the Bible. Which is why it’s so powerful, so applicable, so compelling. Why settle for the scraps when you can get to know the one who said it all?
@@amyqb117 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16,17
@@franmorrison1080 I agree whole-heartedly! All scripture is breathe by God for all these things so that we are equipped for good work. The scripture also commands us to know and love God.
My point was that you CANNOT have the scripture without God. You cannot follow the scripture without obeying God. And to obey God without a relationship with God is utter suffering and basically tyranny.
What is the point of following the instruction of one you do not respect? What is the point of basing your entire life on the words of one you do not love or know?
Better to live as an unbeliever than a "believer" (using the word "as a tool of thought and improvement") but still not know God. I will never "force" the bible or religion down anyone's throat because we would be creating monsters -- Monsters that speak wise words of power and conviction but with a wicked heart.
Those are the same people for which many have condemned Christianity. The crusaders? Roman Catholicism? Colonizers? (not saying they are objectively evil but these always come up in discussions as to why Christianity is "bad")
It's the same "wise" mistake many have made in the past and nothing new --using the things of God without submitting to the authority of God.
I pray that as JP continues to extract richness from the bible, he truly gets to find God. We simply cannot have one without the other unless we seek to remain frauds.
That session was one of the most beautiful searches for faith (if not the most beautiful) that I've ever listened to in my 40+ years as an evangelical Christian.
You might also like Jordan and Dennis Prager from about 4 yrs ago.....
Catholicism has many deep discussions like this, just look into the any of their orders like for example the one where Jordan is at the Franciscan Order is good or maybe the Benedictean Orders, so much good fruit that makes you understand why our Western society flourished
Yep, same here…I’ve been so grievous pondering on the deprivation or rather how society has normalized immorality….I’m grieving over it, it breaks my heart, makes me cry….what’s happening to my once wonderful Nation, America, it’s horrific!,,, We’ve been infiltrated by an evil agenda, thru political agendas, and it’s causing such great suffering!!!! Covid? a pandemic? Nope, the suffering is from that evil global agenda. I fear for my 36 and 32 yr old adult children whom one of them has adhered to the lies of the new(to America) ideologies….my kids despise my husband and I. No respect. They think WE ARE the reason for their suffering, yet they ARE NOT SUFFERING AT ALL. THEYVE beloved the lies that their somehow victims. The struggle of having any semblance of normal conversation with them because they’re SO VERY ARROGANT, and pride in their knowledge and my spouse and I know NOTHING(yet we’re both intelligent educated Christians)…..😢
@@SymbolsPatternsGnosis Simon was pressed into service by the soldiers to carry it for a while when Jesus broke down physically. That's symbolic too!
Psalm 51:16, 17 (KJV) For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: Thou delightest not in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: A broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
Its great to hear and see Jordan on his journey, but he is not arrived at the destination yet.
Look to Jesus because He has all the answers already:-)
Matthew 5, (3) "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for their's is the kingdom of heaven." (4) "Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted." (5) "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth." (6) "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled."
Jesus is our righteousness. He answers the heart cry of the psalmist. As we humble ourselves and turn to Him, He is the antidote for the snake bites and He cures us of the sin (spiritual death) which are the wages for our sins.
I loved the ending convocation from Numbers 6. What a blessing. I hope Dr. Peterson and his family do yield fully to Christ.
This man is coming closer to Catholicism daily - and he’s bringing others along - God be with him in his journey. By the way - love the facial hair!
Noble indeed. I will always remember the mother in the hospital with her new born baby who was severely disabled. She wasn’t mourning the loss of her healthy baby dream. She was adoring her child and seeing how vulnerable he was and how he needed her. She was on a mission to protect him simply because he needed her. She wasn’t depressed at all.
John 5:6
. . Jesus saith unto him, "Wilt thou be made whole?"
Heb 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
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Dear Kirby, do you think the same Lord would have her silently bear such burden, and not cry out to Him for Deliverance ?
@@yosefnegussie8790 can you explain?
@@yosefnegussie8790 Don't be stuck in prosperity gospel. Why did Jesus heal the disabled man by the pool in John 5 instead of all the people who needed healing? Think hard on that. Jesus heals, yes. I don't disagree.
@@manutdfan348 its because if you have sickness and are poor, the rest of us can conclude it's because you don't have faith, you aren't a good Christian. And now I have no moral obligation to help those who fall on hard times. They just need to pray and have faith and let God fix it. It's not my job right? Right???
O wait... That's NOT what the Bible teaches? Turns out you can be a perfectly faithful Christian and still suffer poor health and financial ruin? Ohh boy. That means I can't take credit for my successes? That means I can't blame the poor and the sick for it being their fault??
Huh... Now I see the appeal of the prosperity gospel... It's a penicious tool of Satan to allow pious Christians to impiously look down on those exact people who Christ obliged us to help...
Interesting
1. Jordan Peterson "Turns boys into men and men into heroes" 2. He will become a Saint when history looks back at all this man has done!
I often get that sense from him. He's getting at the important things that have lain hidden for a long time.
Don't saints usually literally or fundalmentaly believe in the bible?
@@thepowerofmyth you usually gain sainthood based on your influence on peoples convertion to "said" religion. Or like Joan of Arc - fighting / dieing in the name of God. Sainthood is usually put on years after the person dies by those people he/she influenced. They demand it of the church. But this is just what I get from my study of history- i honestly dont know. ; )
@@ThePlayfarer his biblical works alone might be worth but he doesnt stop preaching and it just brings people to tears every time.
@@thepowerofmyth many saints were illiterate. So, no, they don't need to believe in the Bible.
I thank You Lord for these great and wonderful men and in Your wisdom sending them to us for this wonderful and enlightening discussion to aid us in coping with our own existence ....Amen
I have a good friend that is an attorney. He was diagnosed recently with a brain tumor. The type very hard to overcome. He's a great person, he loves the Lord and he suffers his burden nobly. He truly is an inspiration.
Since age 29, as a result of severe injuries, I’ve lived with intense pain, now 31 years. At first i struggled to understand its purpose. There were many times early on i resolved to end my life. Everyday it is present and intense. Every night i lay hoping not to wake. But God has given me a gift that i cannot give back, cannot reject which has lead me only to embrace it. The doctors said i would change. They said my wife and family would leave me. I have changed but it has brought us so much closer. God is the mediator of suffering for His most stubborn children that can seemingly ONLY see His love, light and presence of the Divine through the lens of intense ire changing pain. Yes, there are snakes..they are always there..but this was the greatest most liberating gift that God could ever have given me.
Wow. Thank you so much for sharing.
Such a beautiful name you carry, Jedidja, greetings from the Netherlands
Wtf kinda doctor says that your family will exile you? Wow.
Amen!
I live with a debilitating, torturous nerve disorder. It’s been 15 years now. I can only hope to reach the same point that you have because at this point, it’s impossible for me to call it a gift.
Thank you Dr. Peterson, I’m not in a good place atm but I’m trying to bear the weight of my cross as best I can possibly manage.
Much love for you
Let go of the weight. Hand it to Jesus and let him carry your burden. Do something nice for someone else today and don't get caught doing it. There is nobility in such things.
You are not alone my friend. Whatever the reason for not being in a good place, Christ is always here. Consider it Joy when you face challenges of any kind.
When you face the dragons of your life, face them with courage, dignity, and gratitude for breath in your lungs. It is possible to face them in this manner, and that’s not easy by any means.
We are all flawed and we don’t deserve the love and grace of God, and yet he loves us anyway. He loves us enough to watch his perfect son experience suffering for us.
Keep carrying that cross, do it willingly like Christ. Encourage others to do the same and know that Christ is with you always. We can never repay the grace that has been given, but do your best to live for Christ.
Doing so is the closest thing we can get to deserve to be told “Everything will be ok”.
Peace to you.
Stay strong, pray for forgiveness and wisdom
Dr. Jordan B Peterson is one of the most if not the most profound speaker of my time.
I was born in 1999
God bless you Dr Peterson 🙏❤️ and your family, and your house, and your work. God bless you and keep you in all your ways in the name of Christ Jesus ❤️🙏 Amen 🙏❤️
Jordan Peterson is one of the few who can thread the needle between being a theist and not being a theist while making both groups listen to what he has to say.
he has embraced Christ….not a theist anymore
@@bigtxsdude Praise God! Can you link where he says so?
@@bigtxsdude same thing
Thats good…very very good, because it’s prompting the individual to actually think…think. Think
He didn't make anyone listen to him. Those who choose to listen do so of their own free will. Also, listening doesn't equate believing everything he says. He actually doesn't know much of anything about the Theology he is trying to wrap his brain around from a materialist sense but it's obvious that he is realizing this ignorance and desires answers. It is incredibly humbling to be so intelligent then realizing that you are so ignorant. How cruel the materialistic philosophy is to those it puffs up with pride only to leave them broken.
i´m glad that Jordan's mind is as sharp as in his prime, after all that he went through. I wish you the best Dr Peterson.
On his head be his inequity.
The best health Lord for Dr. P. 95 years strong. Thank you Dr. P
I have been suffering with depression for the past month . Today I was going to end my life but I woke up this morning and for the first time in a month I didn’t pray for God to kill me. I went and prayed a Holy Hour and rosary. I came across this video and it helped to make sense of my suffering. At least I will live another day. It’s a start.
I thank God for Dr. Peterson he is here in an important time. Certainly God can use any man fir his will.
"When you see people take on more responsobility and decide that they are going to aim up and confront their suffering honestly and forthrightly their lives get better and the lives of people around them get better too. And so that's very strange as well because it also means that the pathway to less suffering is through suffering".
- Jordan Peterson
I enjoy listening to this man because he doesn’t water anything down, doesn’t sugar coat it but lays it at you with wisdom. I like how his suffering has helped him be better and wants others to be better instead of the usual victim mentality route.
He is a living example of how suffering can increase wisdom.
Listening in on this conversation has been quite an enlightening experience. I'm learning and realizing so much about the power of the Bible. Wow
Inviting JP to speak is to be ready and set to stfual. His stream of consciousness, passion and dedication of memory are a phenomenon of our time. A holy one.
Dr. Peterson has been working overtime! Thank you for bearing your cross ✝️
Society needs you more than ever.
Stay strong and courageous, Doctor.
I am a Catholic who has just recently returned to the faith (thanks in part to Dr Peterson). This was inspiring to listen to.
Love to hear it man! Make sure to bring your friends! (Also check out Bishop Barron if you need to get them on board)
There historically are many unnecessary hoops, hurdles, add-on's and counterfeits that Catholicism has that Christian faiths don't (ie, baptism, Pentecostalism). I understand why people leave catholicism, but I don't understand how they can leave Christ.
The driving force to heaven shouldn't be through church or religion, but Christ himself who frees us from destructive sin. Many people have turned away from Christ because of the horrible things done through the catholic church, including those in my own family. But taking them out of that system allows them to focus on Christ alone.
Hope you're doing better mate, looking for truth, freedom and liberty in Christ :-)
@@Trenasist I'm not sure how anyone can use baptism as an example of an "add on." It's one of the few things clearly there from the beginning. Also, people leave all Christian faiths due to hypocrisy of its members.
@@Trenasist By "Focusing on Christ alone," I assume you mean just reading scripture and "interpreting" it yourself.
That's the Protestant heresy of "Sola scriptura", which assumes that a regular layman can come to know the "Truth", just by reading his Bible. (Anything can be an idol, depending on how you use it, including the Bible.)
The Real truth is that there is no way to "interpret" scripture, except through the proper philosophical mindset and discipline, as well as a deep knowledge of All of scripture; not just parts of it. That's why educated church authorities are necessary. ANY interpretation entails an over-arching ethical framework or bias. There is no getting away from that, no matter your denomination. The Catholic Church derives its interpretations from the thoughts and knowledge and traditions of the actual Church Fathers, who date back to the early first millennium.
Who is more trustworthy? An educated Christian who lived no more than a handful of generations away from the time of Christ? Or Martin Luther, who was known to have a problem with scrupulosity, and promoted the practice of Picking and Choosing what parts of scripture to adhere to, and how to interpret them. No room for any authority or standard deriving directly from early Church tradition.
That's dangerous, if you care at all about your eternal salvation. Just look at how many Protestant denominations have sprouted up in the last 500 years. They've taken the teachings of Christ and scattered them to the wind.
And as for the "horrible things" the Catholic Church has done; no true Catholic is under any delusions that the Church is perfect. It's an institution run by fallen mortal men, like any other. But nonetheless, it was appointed by Christ himself, through Saint Peter. Like it or not, the Church is Christ's representative on this fallen Earth. We must respect the office, even if we don't always respect those who hold it. You may not like the current US President, for instance, but you still need to respect the office. Same deal with the Church. The important thing is to understand Catholic teaching according to what the Church fathers and the saints taught, and to not merely go by what some current or recent bad actors might have done, including those who may be in your own family.
Also, those so-called "unnecessary hoops, hurdles, add-on's and counterfeits" are in fact useful tools and disciplines, which are grounded in early Church tradition if not necessarily in scripture, that help us to grow in holiness, and to live according to the Grace of Christ. That needs to be born out in our moral actions in life. Protestants "protest" this, saying "works don't matter", and "Christ alone" brings salvation.
But the truth there is that ANYone can "say" they believe and accept Christ. Anyone can merely think that. But if our words and our thoughts say one thing, and our actions say another, which are we to believe? Which is Christ to believe?
Words are cheap. And actions speak louder than words, as the adage goes. "You will know them by their fruits" (i.e. works).
Dr. Peterson would put it, belief is something you act out; not merely say. And most of us are so fallen that we can't hope to be "perfect" in our actions. Christ's perfection is like an eternally receding horizon. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try, and show our commitment by our sincere actions and holy disciplines.
Matthew, Chapter 7:
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
I sincerely hope that will not include you. I hope you will learn to stop listening to Satan's deceptions, and one day return to the Truth Faith. I will pray for you. ;-)
Nowhere did I say baptism was an add-on.
It is at the least, a declaration of faith. You don't need to be baptised to be saved.
And of course members fall out of church. One of the main things that Jesus warned us about was hypocrisy, which is extremely important to address these days
❤❤❤This is a great talk. God bless Dr Peterson and the university.q✝️✝️✝️
Jordan Peterson's wisdom and insight is unparalleled
"If you get people to voluntarily confront what makes them afraid and what makes them want to avoid, then they get better. It's curative. That's the message there: If something is terrifying you, pay more attention to it." That has certainly helped in my life! Thank you so much, sir.
Sometimes it’s not possible to confront what makes you afraid.. bcoz you know if you confront it... it’s just going to be worse.. confrontation might work with a fear of many many things.. like a boss or water or whatever... but sometimes the person that is making you afraid... does not care nor wld they listen.. so you just leave it!
I think Jordan s an extraordinary human and I love him very much.. but unfortunately he cannot solve everything.. but he sure does try!!
@@stormygayle9388 well then you confront not to get your own way, you don't always confront what makes you afraid you also confront the potential in things! That's one of things he's always said you confront existence to confront the possibilities within it! So you confront the person , and btw confront doesn't always have to be am aggressive move confronting a toxic person could be having the honest conversation you're too afraid too. And in that what you do is let the person know of what you feel and what you intent to do, so then the person has to decide to accept their shortcomings and change or continue on that path and in some sense we're morally obligated to do that because why wouldn't you give someone a second chance ? What's the case for it ? If a bitter person make your life hell its not that they are walking towards paradise they are deeper in hell than you are. And so you confront them because your feelings matters sure, but also if by some wild chance that's what makes them stop and change and it is possible however unlikely it seems than that's the grace you bestow upon them.
So absolutely joyful to see a “normal” audience , good people. Jordan deserves such ovations and respect he does God inspired work for the universe. His teachings formed a dimension not filled before in modern times and is certainly the atheists greatest enemy. What a blessed soul. The work he does to naturalise or normalise the word of God just fills the gap and a clear indication to me that we are living in the end times.
I know that Dr Peterson in recent times has gotten closer to his Christian faith but I truly believe that he has a balance of religious and secular that he can never shake. for those of us who don't subscribe to the religious, he makes the religious so much more palatable and respectable. perhaps he is your god's sneaky tool to spread this gospel :-)
@@ledaswan5990 Sorry to comment. Do you believe in Father Sky like the Navajo's? That's the native culture I'm most familiar with growing up my traditional native friends. I ain't a Christian but it seems you can track the beliefs of Christians all the way back to the Sky Father in the Indo European cultures and many older cultures beyond that to sun cults and the like. All these cultures seem to have some sort of Father Sky.
Does someone not heckle hysterically when he talks about slavery being ok?
Well, have a look into this piece of work, it may not be like anything you have read before. It's called: "e risale english". Just write this in a search and it pops up at the top of your search. The book itself is called The Words. It's interesting and a bit mysterious...
@@ledaswan5990 “as a native american I find it insulting”
It seems like it. Of course their have been nad injustices done to indigenous people but You have pissed your brains with alcohol instead of standing up and get on with life. The fact that you as a group are basically fading from the earth is the very fact that you believe in other demonic spirits that just like in africa and elsewhere caused the lack of drive to stop looking for excuses and take responsibilities for your actions. The development of this earth would not have been possible without the truth of the bible. Of course there has been atrocities done with the bible under the arm but if the mug has a crack and the water runs out dont blame the water. You can feel insulted as you wish its not going to help you and your group.
We're lucky we live in an age where we don't have to be physically there to enjoy speeches like this. Keep the faith
"It's easy to find God in a sunset." - Franciscan
The blessing Father Dave gave Jordan at the end was so powerful. After a great discussion of minds he sends him off with a powerful speech that the whole room including Peterson felt in their hearts. That was a beautiful discussion.
We are, and it's incredibly inspiring. James Lindsay did an interesting podcast on New Discourses in which he described how we are in fact in a second Enlightenment as knowledge and authority are being decentralized. JP leaving his professorship and speaking directly to the public is the future of education in the West.
see here again the Christians create confusion ... I thought all blessing came from God ... so man can do that to ... OK then I guess they don't care about suffering then it's still here
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I would Love to have a discussion with you Dr. Peterson ONE day one clinician to another. Peace ☮️
God Bless You and your Family Amen 🙏🏽
Thank you Brother Jordan! You have brought Hope back to so many!!
Beautiful men, thank you
Jordan is the perfect mental floss.
Jordans explanation of the meaning behind the "Passion" is so profound . I watched the film by Mel Gibson again over Easter and it so moving but the meaning of it has multiplied in me a thousandfold. It also makes me realise i cannot live up to its promise which fills me with despair.
Yes sir, masterful as always Dr Jordan.
The last 2 discussions you have posted have made a tremendous impression upon me. Thank you so much!
Bible contradictions 1
Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
(a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5)
How many fighting men were found in Judah?
(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
(b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
(b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
(b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)
The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
(a) Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
(b) Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)
@@abdolrahmanal-harmi5978 what’s your point?
@@johnbrion4565 Probably just a troll.
Keep going!🙏☺️
@@abdolrahmanal-harmi5978 The bible is full of contradictions...just like your life is full of contradictions Abdolrahman. Any fool can find contradictions in the bible, but it takes a truly wise man to find the ones inside your own heart. Stop worrying about the bible, and start working on yourself buddy.
Cheers
_“Who knows what the upper limit of that is? If you bore your cross and took on all the responsibility you could manage? Who knows who you'd be.”_
Well I imagine you'd be something like Jordan Peterson.
Something like Christ.
Listen bud I think there is a line to draw here. I don't feel like fighting Jordan Peterson extremists in 50 years.
@@PaulFrank49 extremists? What are you on about?
Go clean your room.
@@westonforced-last-name-dis3560 You're trying too hard to sound smart bro. You failed to understand my comment, yet you still felt the need to respond, a little embarrassing.
@@PaulFrank49 I think you are saying don't try to think of JBP as Christ. I think you may be right that some people will now
or in the future will put JBP as an equal of Christ and that would be terribly bad. Hopefully people will know that
he is just a man. A good man but just a man.
This is why he's famous. He offers great value to the world, for everyone, not a mere ideaology but a practical philosophy.
I wish this had gone longer, such a powerful and riveting dialogue.
You're living proof of the value one individual can bring to the world. Thank you.
That’s what being a world changer means.
🤯
If not ME, who? If not NOW, who? HERE am I Lord, lead me...
Dear Jordan Peterson, i can see in your eyes and in your face that you have been through a lot of pain, that you know hell very well but you survived... I don't know on what cost but you survived and this is kind of inspirational to know that is possible to survive hell. God bless you and your family!
He’s been through a lot. U can tell in the way he relates. It doesn’t take only high degrees to explain deep existential issues like he does. It takes experiencing them. Jordan experienced very DEEP issues !
Its a good thing that you think you can survive hell since if you follow his false gospel thats exactly where you will end up.
@@pickywolf2728 Welp, he's also a clinical psychologist. He has helped many people, talked them out to get on the right track again, he has seen lots and lots of metal problems going from the highest severity to the lowest. This experience (alongside his teacher experience) makes him amazing to hear and gets him a superb control of language.
What an inspirational reflection by both of you! FUOS is my dream univ! Took a course a few yrs ago & left a piece of my heart there!!
Excellent! A good way to wrap up, with the priestly blessing!! Bless you!
We hope you continue to be heard by all , just even cause people to think and question this order and chaos we live in currently. Thank you JP.
What are you talking about? 😂😂 go read a book man
@@ejenkins4711 I sent that by mistake it seems, what do you mean though?😂. Pardon my ignorance.
@@ejenkins4711 what? 🤣
BRILLIANT!!! Being an ex catholic and now a born again christian this was a discussion for everyone! Brilliant and Well Done!!
I'm an atheist and I still enjoy these "from the bible" arguments.
I may not believe in God, but I know the values being preached in the bible are still correct and the basis for Western Civilization.
Regardless of your religious beliefs (or lack thereof) it remains a very interesting collection of books to study.
Sadly it is a rather tedious read with all the repetition (especially in the Old Testament) such as "God said "x" to Moses. Moses goes to someone else and repeats "X" in its entirety, verbatim. Then he goes to the Israelites and relates "x" in its entirety, verbatim... So you've read three pages and only had a single idea conveyed...that's just painful.
@@Darkdaej It's meant to be read aloud (universal literacy is a really recent thing!) In that context, the repetition is helpful to an audience to follow the storyline.
@@dbalgp1047 I know, but it's still a massive pain
@@Darkdaej :)
@@dbalgp1047 It actually isn't, not as a whole anyway. Parts perhaps, but certainly not the whole. The Qu'ran however was meant to be recited and transmitted orally.
Thank you for this thought provoking show.
Super talk on religious beliefs
The reality and the unexplained
Faith ✨✨✨
Evil exist but the problem is
a lot of ppl don't understand
how it can upend your life
if you become a target for
an evil person
They can do a lot of damage
Very thought provoking and
very interesting
👍👍
I received the Holy Spirit after spending two years living by your advice, Mr Peterson.
I was baptised as a child, but didn't really believe, and soon became atheistic, which lasted near enough 20 years. The Holy Spirit entered me one day in bed, shortly after I'd used your advice to finally escape from a bad situation.
I thank God for you, Jordan Peterson
Sounds like a tall story.
Röky_M how so? Sounds similar to mine.
Were you baptized Catholic? If so, look to the Church for answers. I hope you didn't leave the Church entirely if indeed you were baptized in the Catholic Church.
So now you believe the bible literally and fundalmentaly? For example, do you believe the Noah's ark / great flood event described on genesis? Or perhaps the miracles in the new testament? Bc Jordan Peterson doesn't.. I'm just wondering if he's the one that got you to Believe in the bible literally. Bc that would be pretty ironic 😂
What did it feel like when the holy spirit "entered" you in bed????
Blessed talk. Thank you father and Dr. Peterson. Coming from Lebanon I know the meaning of suffering and Christ has been the center of my life and has helped me through with His love and His presence in my life through the Holy Spirit. Because what I went through in life I can love and care for my brothers and sisters. God bless you all.
Hi fellow believer from the Philippines 🇵🇭!
May our Lord continue to be with you and grant you His grace, wisdom, mercy, joy and peace ❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🇵🇭
That was just unbelievable!
Beautiful conversation.
What an ending! So well deserved!
I can’t remember when I have enjoyed a discussion or lecture more than this. The content was magnificently thought provoking- thank you so much Dr Peterson for this lifelong gift I received today - and thank you My Father in Heaven for giving the Doctor the gift to teach and speak so even a baby could understand
It's great to see humble & intelligent men having peaceful discourse.
Yes. The humility is so rare to see.
In Jesus name Jordan for much is called much is required may god give you strength and comfort
Jordan is a Muslim bro.
@Karl Geg Tastiera oh? What makes you say that?
Just a word of thanks for Jordan Peterson. Lord, I have his messages come into my life at exactly the right time.
There are definitely no coincidences!