Supercharged ND Miata Tested! - The Slip Angle
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- čas přidán 4. 01. 2022
- Today we test Lance's supercharged ND1 Miata at our home test track at Lime Rock! This has been the fastest car we've tested to date on the new setup.
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That's my car! Thanks Quinn And Slip Angle Media crew for a nice run down, and review of her. She was not built for setting lap times. It is a daily street cruiser for me. My previous S2000's were track duty, but life take over, priorities, kids,...lol. Good to have a daily driver and your back in one piece, on a long trip, and a car that rips! I'll build a GR86 next for the track.. Maybe... Really eyeing it.
Thank you again for sharing your car with us buddy! You're at the top of the leaderboard so well done! 👏 👍
@@TheSlipAngle top only last for so long! Lol! But I'll enjoy it for now. Again nice driving, sorry it's not a full setup hoon mobile. But it balances the uses pretty good as it sits. I'm very satisfied. Next on her is up keep. Clutch, and trans I have. Some intake And TB sizing adjustments, a smaller pulley... And Dyno tuning.
Hey man thanks for letting these guys test it. Your baby put in a really nice lap! I also appreciate the setup because it’s something could reasonably do if they still wanted to use their car every day like I’m trying to. :)
Thanks for lending out to the guys at Slip Angle. Your car is awesome and so is the video
For a comfortable daily the soft suspension mods, since I only did springs and sway bars on stock Club Bilsteins, it is very comfortable. And it rips too so it's a fun mountain road / back road carver!
It's hard to deny how good that red looks on the ND.
Who would deny it 😅
I want a classic red one, though. The same color as the NA's.
Ngl, instead of buying back my NB, i might wait until ND prices fall and snatch one that way. Just imagine a ITB ND miata build with that glorious high compression motor..... god that sounds amazing
BBR, who makes ITB's for NC's say they are considering making them for an ND pending sales of them for NC.
Thats awesome that’s actually my buddy lance… he had a couple S2k before he had the Miata pretty shocked he made it to the slip angle 💯…
Lance is a good dude!
Thanks Dario!
@@TheSlipAngle thanks Quinn / Matt
Thank you to Quinna and Matt for posting this video. this ND is definitely a hoot to drive...which I have. Another Nutmeg Club car reviewed on the Slip Angle!! thank you very much!
Anytime Joe! Thank you and the Nutmeg Club for having us!
You are very good at explaining what is going on with the car while driving. Very easy to understand and visualize.
Thank you! We greatly appreciate that 🙌
That new intro is fire man! Good to see some track content. Thanks buddy. And big thanks to the owner of the car.
🙌🙌🙌
The great thing about that FCP track at Lime Rock is you can dance on the edge with very little chance of serious consequences. Another great episode!
Thank you Dave!
Nice content! Keep up the good work guys!
Thank you! Will do!
Very nice car! looks fun as well
I have a red ND, man the color just looks great. Loved the video 👌🏻
Awesome! Thank you for watching!
I love the fact that Lance pronounces Bilstein correctly.😊
Perfect setup, not spent too much. How much has the consumption increased with the supercharger in normal driving and track driving situations?
Thanks for the vids as always. I once drove that car at a Mazda auto cross event. It was a fun car but it was a handful when you get a little pass the limit. I still loved it. Cant wait for the next video. I would love to see the rx8 and the Fd put some laps down.
Thanks buddy. We have an RX-8 episode coming soon ;)
Awesome I cant wait. I am still sporting my slip angle t shitt. Are you guys selling anymore?
The exact set up I want. EB SC with headers and full exhaust running the Fab9 93 tube. I so want to know dyno numbers. Should help me solidify SC vs TC
Does the supercharger kit with tune increase the redline of the engine?
How much hp does it have?
Look quite fast and handles like a big go-kart.
Awesome video man! Very interesting build and something close to what I was looking at going suspension wise as this is my only car at and I want to do something that is able to also handle the crappy roads in Dallas lol.
Thanks for watching!
I’m in Dallas as well. I’m on BC racing br coilovers right now. It’s certainly rough in certain areas but I love the extra response in steering and less body roll.
@@aaronwilliams9032 Oh really? Nice! How do you handle with scrapes and steep inclines? Do you have enough clearance?
Extremely impressive, especially given he’s on street tires and still using the sub standard Bilstein shocks. Don’t get me wrong, I have the same tires, and they are impressive, but they’re not 200 treadwear track tires by any stretch of the imagination. “Near redline in 3rd” is something I don’t think I’ve heard you say before.
New track layout has that back straight away that let's us get into the car's power band which was very welcomed over the old layout. No only if they didn't narrow the track in other sections though 😅
Love your commentary and seeing your car control Quinn 👌 Would be awesome if there was a generous owner who would hand you the keys to their 2022 GR86 - very curious to hear your impressions with the new car, with its 2.4 engine!
We might have a GR86 project car coming really soon. Ahem Matchewwww....
@@TheSlipAngle we need to talk! That's next jam. I want to see what he has planned. Not getting rid of my Miata, that's a lifer car now. But add on the new GR86 I'm considering... By 2023.
I love the rvm cross g meter!
Thank you for watching!
God, I HAAAAAAVE to SC my ND1! That just looks so much faster. Also, my grey color doesn't look anywhere near as good as that red does, lol.
Do you have traction control off or on?
If you only upgrade the rear sway bar to a thicker bar, will it want to step out the rear more when pushing to the limit?
a rear bar only will increase rear roll stiffness and usually make it rotate easier at the cost of limiting rear travel and possibly lifting the rear inside wheel
Awesome vid.. I've been thinking about upgrading to ND2 from ND1, but the blower has been so tempting..
they have a supercharger for the nd2 now
@@intershield They do, but the ND1 is more receptive of forced induction. I actually just bought an ND2 soft top yesterday and I still have my ND1 RF, which I'm going to sell soon.
Ha Ha ! A rare mistake from the Quinn, followed by the inevitable Racing driver excuses Lol
Excellent video as always.
It's always the car's, tire's or track's conditions fault. Never forget that ;)
Oh of course lol.
I'd like to see a ND project car in your stable at some time.
@@TheSlipAngle lol! But all in part true. And I appreciate the "sorry buddy" and the that was my fault.. you could have cut that out. But you left it in! Integrity!
A nice tight chassis always helps............ :) more camber.....? never asked her that before....... :)
another great Mazda guy...
another great review...
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Thank you Neil!
how do i sign up to race at this track?
Look up Modified Machines on Facebook and Lime Rock Park's website for their standard track days.
The handling balance actually looks a bit like a MR car... Good/great from 1-9, but at the very edge, frustrating, snappy, understeer making good corrections difficult
Does it come with LSD? Or any aftermarket ones installed?
This car had the factory LSD option
Does your S2000 put down a better lap time?
Going to have to wait and see!
Does this car have a higher redline than stock?
Yes, 7500rpm rev limit.
Hey I just thought of something that could be cool if you know well enough ahead of time if someone's going to let you shoot their car, see if they can grab some kind of alignment spec information. It would be very interesting to see their alignment before you do the track impression because so often (even with the recent Corvette video & many more) I was thinking to myself, man.. I bet they just have a factory alignment and not enough negative front camber. Like if we knew ahead of time that the nd was on stock alignment specs, then we'd be able to imagine more of what it could be like compared to how it is or something like that.
Not saying the Corvette would be a huge difference with more negative front camber but it would probably aid the audience in understanding to see alignment specs for each track impression. I know it wouldnt be possible for every car but it would be cool.
Cuz for example say u drive another turbo NA and it has just -2 front camber but you're blown away by the front bite then I'd know it may not be totally necessary to run more than that if we don't track the car as much as we daily.
Duno either way awesome 👍 content as always lol the recent white Corvette video was hilarious 😂 "just duce the gas and it whaaarrrmp" 'murica
But more importantly it would be better to know if the ND did already have added front negative camber and it still pushes out like that.
Sweet car tho
He mentioned after he had it aligned, but with less front camber than rear which supports the handling characteristics I experienced.
@@TheSlipAngle yeah Mazdas OEM alignment is less negative front camber than rear so that the everyday newbie RWD driver doesn't have to deal with accidental oversteer. In their own words they said something along the lines of "the average driver can better handle an understeer event than oversteer. Plus it's a short wheel base car so I don't blame them. But that's why it's so important to get a more track oriented alignment!
Why not a whipple supercharger? Just curious.
It's not our car
That power to weight would definitely be a hoot. Actually looks quick coming down the straighter sections.
Fastest top speed hit on the track so far. Thank you for watching!
"Temperamental" when pushing it -- Looks like you were overpowering the chassis. The car is neutral at the limit on less power. With 240+ hp at the crank, I'd go with a more aggressive alignment, another 1/2 drop in the ride height, and better dampers. I think it would still be very streetable, while for track days, switching to stickier tires would also help.
He honestly needs a proper coilover setup like a set of Xidas, Fox, or Sakebomb Ohlins with that power. That car benefits from these even stock. Also, the ND1 Bilsteins are a bit much for the Progress Springs which are a better pair for something like the ND2 Bilsteins which have a different damping profile. Typically , you'd want the higher rate Flyin Miata springs for the ND1 Bilsteins assuming you don't just bite the bullet for a proper matched coilover setup.
The car just needs more front camber. The owner admitted that the current alignment has less front camber than rear and that creates that understeer and edginess with big slip angles. It's fine for normal driving but not so fine if you want to play with the car and drift.
This or an RX8? Thats a really cool car.
Both are very different cars. For track driving and enjoyment, Miata
Not to be that guy but if the owner loses 50lbs it would really make a difference in this car! Great mods on a ND1
Im no expert. That suspension needs more parts and or tuning. And the tires need to either adjusted air pressure wise and or swapped for something that will handle that track better????????
It could go even faster with a better suspension kit, ditch the Bilsteins!
suspension is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too soft on this car, quality coilovers would be a huge improvement in car control and limit handling!
Alignment would improve the handling. The car had less front camber than the rear. For playfulness and ease of at the limit handling, you always want more front negative camber than the rear.
This one has not grippy tires, you need at least semislick
I keep considering selling my turbo ap2 whenever I see these ND's.
Keep the S2000 ;)
Keep S2000, still buy an ND!
I would never have some guy drive my car like that. Fuck that do it in your car
You clearly haven’t tracked a car 😂. He didn’t hurt the car at all. Relax
@@donovansimison9336 yea I've tracked my S6 S4 and had to replace all four tires. So yea I know what to do
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Thanks for watching!
i cant be the only one who feels physical pain looking at that dumb screen sticking out of the dash
Little soft people.....All I can say.....
Not very smooth driving. Negligent.
I looked at your channel to see how I should be driving but sadly you have zero content created or uploaded...pity. Thank you for watching!
@@TheSlipAngle As if content creation is relevant at all to driving skill or knowledge lmao
He is a bad driver. Car is going allover during the cornerings and missing all the apexes. Sorry! He sucks!!!
Yup he is terrible and we should fire him. We checked your channel to see if you could be a possible replacement but sadly you have zero videos uploaded. What a pity.
Running a basemap? Embarassing, and lucky it runs as well as it does. there is MUCH less leeway when tuning a DI car. Please don't run basemaps. Please. I like that engine.
Also it's just leaving horsepower and torque, not to mention driveability and mileage, on the table. Dyno tuning is worth it on any non-stock engine configuration.
Not tryin to be neg, great vid and great car. Keep it up guys.
p.s. Where is your AFR gauge?!
This is not our car. I don't have AFR gauges in any of my cars either. Once I am done tuning and temperature corrections are set, I pull the wide band. If you are hammering on a car you are not watching AFRs. Dyno tuning is for final numbers, if you want reliability you need to tune the car on the street under all various load conditions as it's always different then the load a dyno can simulate.
@@TheSlipAngle it's not a baseMap. It is Datalogged and E-tune specifically for my setup. However, not in the Dyno so I can't find you numbers. I'll get some numbers come spring.
He's running the Fab9 tune, which is the best one you can get.The Edelbrock CARB tune runs like utter shit, but you need it to pass emissions in CA.
Hot lapping in a convertible, no helmet but does have gloves....
Lime Rock doesn't require helmets on that track, so if that bothers you perhaps you should take it up with them. Thanks for watching.
@@TheSlipAngle this may be a record for the safety police response time lol
our Club has been doing this event since forever...and nobody bitches about lack of helmets. if helmets and rollbars were required the Nutmeg Club would lose over 1/2 of the folks that participate. the attraction for most of our members is that they can just get in their car and go...no special prep, no extra gear. We sell out EVERY year. The casual enthusiast loves this event.
@@TheSlipAngle Florida doesn't require a helmet to ride a motorcycle. Whether or not it's "required" has what to do with protecting your brain? A helmet is cheaper than a new head. It's always interesting hearing people argue against basic safety devices, especially when they're willing to dump thousands into performance parts.